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  • Aug 25, 2008, 07:32 PM
    LovelyGirlAmI
    Is it me? I don't understand what he is doing.
    First of all, I am new to this site and would like to say Hello to Everyone!
    My problem:


    I have been seeing a man for almost 2 years. He is 10 years younger than me. Hes 34. Our relationship has been the most beautiful thing to happen to me. He is poetic, sensitive, a great cook and caring. On the flip side he seems tight with money and has trouble communicating with me, even more as of late.

    Anyway, I stay at his place 2 - 4 times a week. The problems started in March when I found him on a personal site. He said he was networking his photography biz and trying to meet people to introduce them to a poetry book he was getting ready to post on Amazon. It flipped me out to see that he was talking to women and sending poetry to them but I tried to be understand though I did freak out a lot when I first found it. Then about a month later, I found a site that he was on that was a modeling site. This modeling site has lots of naked women on it that is more porn than actual nude modeling. Not all but a lot of the portfolios are like that. Well, that freaked me out. Its like a big networking myspace sort of thing and he was leaving poetry on lots of girls pictures. I was so upset seeing poems to naked teenagers though some were just women in clothing. The site upsets me because its bad enough he is looking at naked girls, he writes to them. Well this has caused lots of tension. He bought biz cards and put a pic of a girl looking seductive on it that said he would take pics for free to build theirs and his portfolio. I thought he was trying to shove it in my face and without thinking I just ripped the card in half.

    He has told me that if I don't like him wanting to take pics of women that I should just leave, but I really love this man. I keep packing my bags then I come back. He says he does not believe me anymore. Anyway, he said that I call him too much and he turned off his cell phone.

    This past Saturday, I went to his house and he was packing for a biz trip for his real job. He has not wanted to make love to me because he says he is too angry with me. I just ask him to please show respect for my feelings and that I can't stand him telling these women how beautiful they are. He should be saying these things to me.

    Anyhow, he practically ignored me and he just got into his car unexpectedly to leave for Washington dc, I asked when he will be coming back. He said whenever I come back. He was meeting about 7 guys from work who are all single to convoy for this 7 hour trip.

    He never told me where he was staying or when he was coming back. He has not emailed or called me.

    I don't know if we are broken up or not. He said. ' I am putting my foot down, I don't like what you do." i said, " I just want you to show attention to me and consider my feelings for you talking to people on personal sites and naked model sites."

    This is the first time we have not spoken everyday since we met. I feel like I am going crazy, I keep thinking he is cheating on me since he has refused to be intimate with me in 2 weeks. He also seemed to pay special attention to his looks by going to get his teeth whitened and buying new clothes, haircut etc... but I don't want to read into anything.

    Please somebody give me some thoughts on all this. Does it seem like he left me for good? I have a hunch he probably won't come back until after this holiday is over which is a week from now.
  • Aug 25, 2008, 07:45 PM
    Ash123
    I am not sure if you realize it or not, but you have written an honest and personal goodbye letter to him -- through this site.

    There is NO reason to fight for this relationship.

    Why? Read your own words.

    No one could recommend you fight for a relationship in which you are demeaned, ignored, insulted and disrespected. Don't let his delusions become your reality.

    Every day I tell people that this takes GUTS. Some have it. Some do not. The ones who cannot face moving on immediately will get there eventually or suffer on and on. But, the ones who do grit their teeth, find rewards a lot quicker...

    Bye. Bye buddy. I am rooting for you LovelyGirl
  • Aug 25, 2008, 07:53 PM
    ylaira
    When in-love line goes " He's a druggie- boxer but he gives me flowers every morning, kiss me so sweet and bring breakfast in bed"

    When falling out of love, line goes " He really loves me but his hair is receding, he snores bad and his feet are smelly.

    In a nutshell:
    When in love all you see is good thing, everything else is trivial, when falling out of love, everything is bad, nothing is good.


    So dear, its not you. The fact that he doesnt consider you feelings and blames things on you only shows that things are "not as sweet as it was before"
  • Aug 25, 2008, 08:50 PM
    jjwoodhull
    From what you have said, he's been incredibly disrespectful. If he has secret internet life, what other secrets does he have? Also, although he may not be cheating on you physically, he is cheating emotionally with these other girls.
  • Aug 25, 2008, 09:31 PM
    Ash123
    "LovelyGirlAmI agrees: I think somewhat.....but am really don't want to leave. i just want us to communicate."

    I know you don't. But he is not much of a communicator and I am not sure he respects you enough... I think you may have to take some time to find yourself - and this poet can find the door. Until then, feel free to talk here.
  • Aug 25, 2008, 10:33 PM
    hjpan
    Typical horny old men =/

    Find a guy whose going to respect you.
  • Aug 26, 2008, 04:44 AM
    LovelyGirlAmI
    Thank you to those who are taking the time and have compassion for me. You don't know me but I appreciate it. I feel like I have no one to really talk to. My parents are both deceased and my brother just died and my sister is difficult to talk to. My friends don't seem interested in my love life since they do not even have a relationship. So I found this place and I just need a peace of mind.

    You all have said that he shows a lack of respect. I just want my story to be clear. I have not been an angel. I really got very upset with him when I found the personal sites etc... I know that he has not cheated on me because I have really kept an eye on him to the point where I feel like I am almost a stalker. I just need affirmation all the time since what I saw him do took away my trust. But he says that he did not actually do anything, I know he sincerely wants to sell his poetry book and get a photo biz started. I am just jealous over how he is doing it.

    I am a singer in a band and about 2 months ago he made a surprise visit to my show and I saw him sitting with a lady. I walk over to him and he said that she was a friend. Talking further I realized that he met here through personals and he had his paperwork out to show her photography. I said "is this a photo appointment?" And she said, "i thought we were on a date.". I said, "I am his girlfriend." she left and I freaked out on him. He said she had a picture of a dog and he wanted to get photos in his portfolio with her and the dog. He said, 'if I was hiding anything from you, then why would I bring her to your show, I would go behind your back." This feels like a weird head game to me but he says he just wants to build his biz.

    Are guys just crazy?
  • Aug 26, 2008, 06:16 AM
    happy_jester
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LovelyGirlAmI
    But he says he just wants to build his biz.

    This guy is a RAT after all he has done to you!

    Let him build his business,while you continue life without him.

    Remember the NO CONTACT rule.
  • Aug 26, 2008, 06:31 AM
    liz28
    I think you can't handle the line of work he's in and that's the problem. He photographs girls some nude, beautiful, with bathing suits, etc. You need to accept otherwise move on. On his business he' going have a girl looking seductive that's what sells. He's going network on these sites looking for new clients to help build his career. That's where you start and sometime when you starting a new career you will offer something in return. Free picturs for them sounds good and any starving person that wants to be a model would go for this deal because pictures are expensive and at the same time he's getting experience.

    Also, if he's sending them poetry he might be trying to promote his book of poetry he's about to sell on Amazon. You have to advertise some how.

    I think your just insecure and turn this situation upside down. If I was in his shoes I'd be very piss at you too. I don't think you could happen his career and that want is bothering you the most. I am unsure if he'll come back to you or not but right now the space is good.
  • Aug 26, 2008, 07:47 AM
    Ash123
    I do not think he is a good match for you and deep down you know it I'd bet. You are not crazy. This is just not for you. Don't let him make you think he is the only fish in the sea. He is not. Sorry but I am not a fan of this nude photo poet dude. You can do better.
  • Aug 26, 2008, 08:06 AM
    LovelyGirlAmI
    He doesn't want to do nude photos or so he says. He just networks with girls that are willing to pose nude.

    Yes, I have grown very insecure. I thought he was into wedding photography when I met him.

    I am also insecure because he doesn't give me any indicators that we will be together for real. He says he would rather live together than get married but that is not set in stone.

    I think if I had more of a commitment then I would feel secure. I told him I felt used after all this time if we don't get together and then he stopped wanting to be intimate.

    He said well if you feel that way then I won't be with you in that way and I am still furious with you.

    This is the first time we have not at least said hello each day. It hurts me deeply that he won't even let me know he is OK or when he is coming back.

    He just said , you break up with me at least every 3 to 5 weeks. If you don't like what I do leave,

    I just want him to be the person I first met. He made me feel secure and special and now I feel like I share him with these other women.
  • Aug 26, 2008, 08:17 AM
    jjwoodhull
    Regardless of who is right or wrong, it sounds like your relationship is chaotic. It does not sound like it is good or healthy for either of you. Do yourself and him a favor and move on.
  • Aug 26, 2008, 08:27 AM
    LovelyGirlAmI
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jjwoodhull
    Regardless of who is right or wrong, it sounds like your relationship is chaotic. It does not sound like it is good or healthy for either of you. Do yourself and him a favor and move on.


    Its chaotic because he won't give me the security I need. If he did, I would feel I could trust him. I sato him what do you want from me? He says no stress and drama is what I want. I say if you make me feel secure, if I know we will be together for real then I won't feel stress. I can't feel like I am up in the air. I need to know what we are doing. I told him I wanted to marry him. I never said that to a man before.

    I feel like I would live in a box just to be with this guy, I just want respect for my feelings, I do not know how to make him understand.
  • Aug 26, 2008, 08:34 AM
    happy_jester
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LovelyGirlAmI
    He just networks with girls that are willing to pose nude.

    Believe me,this is just as bad,as the temptation (yes,the opportunity,too! ) to photo
    These girs in the nude is ALWAYS there. :(

    ... He only has to ask.

    Quote:

    I think if I had more of a commitment then I would feel secure. I told him I felt used after all this time if we don't get together and then he stopped wanting to be intimate.
    Why do you want this guy,and more commitment? You've said that you feel used,and,
    That's exactly what he is doing to you. :(
  • Aug 26, 2008, 08:36 AM
    jjwoodhull
    You said that you told him you want to marry him... WHY? Getting married will not solve the problems in your relationship.
  • Aug 26, 2008, 08:41 AM
    LovelyGirlAmI
    I feel I need to know for sure what we are doing. 2 years everyday has been spent. I can't go on in limbo. I am 44. He says that he can't imagine life without me then, why is he doing this to me? Why won't he just say he wants to be together for real? I don't understand.

    I am upset about how he networks but I don't want to throw it all away. When its good it's the best I ever felt with any man. This is making me sick.
  • Aug 26, 2008, 08:42 AM
    liz28
    You seem like you want more than he's offering. Why would you think he would want to get marry when your breaking it off 4-5 times within weeks apart. Do you really think if you get marry you would security? Your two don't need to be together. You really need to move and work on in any issues you have within yourself and don't ever settle. You can't make someone do or be something their not or don't want.
  • Aug 26, 2008, 08:49 AM
    happy_jester
    Quote:

    You really need to move and work on in any issues you have within yourself.
    There are far too many issues in this relationship for it to work. These issues MUST be resolved!
  • Aug 26, 2008, 09:03 AM
    hjpan
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LovelyGirlAmI
    Thank you to those who are taking the time and have compassion for me. you don;t know me but i appreciate it. I feel like I have no one to really talk to. My parents are both deceased and my brother just died and my sister is difficult to talk to. My friends don't seem interested in my love life since they do not even have a relationship. So I found this place and i just need a peace of mind.

    You all have said that he shows a lack of respect. I just want my story to be clear. I have not been an angel. I really got very upset with him when i found the personal sites etc...I know that he has not cheated on me because I have really kept an eye on him to the point where i feel like I am almost a stalker. I just need affirmation all the time since what I saw him do took away my trust. But he says that he did not actually do anything, I know he sincerely wants to sell his poetry book and get a photo biz started. I am just jealous over how he is doing it.

    I am a singer in a band and about 2 months ago he made a surprise visit to my show and i saw him sitting with a lady. I walk over to him and he said that she was a friend. talking further I realized that he met here through personals and he had his paperwork out to show her photography. I said "is this a photo appointment?" And she said, "i thought we were on a date.". I said, "I am his girlfriend." she left and I freaked out on him. He said she had a picture of a dog and he wanted to get photos in his portfolio with her and the dog. He said, 'if i was hiding anything from you, then why would i bring her to your show, I would go behind your back." This feels like a weird head game to me but he says he just wants to build his biz.

    Are guys just crazy?

    See that part? Why would she freak out if you told her you was his girlfriend?

    That is a red flag right there regardless of his post-comments about they were friends.

    DUMP HIM.
  • Aug 26, 2008, 09:09 AM
    delight
    Yes, say him good bye and in a way, you have communicated your feelings and you just need to say it to him personally or make it reach him, and if you do not want, do not.

    The chapter is CLOSED for good, literally, and virtually!!
  • Aug 26, 2008, 09:34 AM
    Ash123
    OK, maybe I am missing something here.

    Why does she need to apologize if a girl thinks she's on a date with HER boyfriend.

    And these porn-like photos? Are they for a real book? This sounds weak.

    Lovely Girl may be no angel, but he's not either. Should they not find better suited partners?
  • Aug 26, 2008, 09:36 AM
    delight
    Yeah, I agree.
  • Aug 26, 2008, 10:11 AM
    liz28
    If you like being treated wrong stay, if not leave. Games and lies are what this guy is about.
  • Aug 26, 2008, 10:35 AM
    delight
    I again agree...
  • Aug 26, 2008, 03:25 PM
    LovelyGirlAmI
    So you all think I should just walk way now before he gets back?

    We were talking on the phone and he said his phone had one bar and he forgot the phone charger.

    He is a computer geek and is usually on his computer everyday, I just realized he left it here under the bed.

    So there is not phone, there is no computer to contact with.

    As Far breaking up is concerned, yes, I do that to try to get him to understand that I need an answer. He just says he does not believe me anymore. Which I do see why.

    I just want an answer out of him. I told him if he would only let me know that this relationship is real and for the long term as I feel then I would never leave him and he could count on me for the rest of his life.\

    I just want RESPECT... for my feelings. He tells me he is tenderhearted and he took offense to me saying that I was feeling used.

    So now we haven't made love in 2 weeks. I don't know if he will cheat on me in Washington dc or not. The thought makes me want to vomit, but I haven't had anything but a snickers bar in 3 days. I have not slept. I just come to his place after work nand hang out because I feel a weird comfort. I know I sound ridiculous, but I am being honest as I can

    I have never experienced anything like this before. And though I am 44, I realize that I never knew what love was before. This is the first time in my life that I would give up everything to be with this man. I wouldn't care if he was penniless. I would be there for him.

    Do you all think that he is doing this just to upset me because I have upset him or has he left me and just acting the part without flat out saying it?
  • Aug 26, 2008, 04:30 PM
    Ash123
    As far as I can tell you are in love with drama and the fight to win him. If you were in love with a soulmate you would not live your life in confusion and guilt and sadness. He is a bit of a sad geek and he has you thinking he's a great catch. I am glad you have learned valuable life lessons here about the compromise of relationships BUT I am not buying he's the one-unless there is something great u haven't shared. I'd say lose the zero and find a hero.
  • Aug 26, 2008, 04:42 PM
    LovelyGirlAmI
    Ash123- thanks for checking on this...

    I do not want drama. It makes me sad and upset. I just want to be with him. I heard that you can go through very rough times with a soul mate. There have been synchronicities with this guy from the beginning. I never knew what synchronicity even was before.

    I think there may be a problem because of our age difference too. I am 10 years older.
  • Aug 26, 2008, 05:31 PM
    Ash123
    OK, good luck.

    That is just my opinion. Just a guess, but the problems may not go away.

    But no one that comes on here the first time wanting to walk away.

    If there was something I could repair I would try, but I just can't look at your issue and see solution right now. You are desperate and scared and we've all been there. See how it goes. I hope it gets better. If not, we're here.
  • Aug 26, 2008, 08:08 PM
    pinkcelly123
    Truthfully he is a perv plan and simple.. to your questions yes he is cheating just forget about him you don't need him and I'm very certain you can do better then him. I know deep down you feel like you actually did something but really you didn't you have every right in a relationship to express to the other what's bothering you.. you did and he gave you his answer.. if he rather take pics of nude teenage girls then let him you wouldn't want to be the girlfriend of the guy who does that?. but I know how it feels to talk to someone everyday and when one day messes up the routine you feel like your whole day is ruined.. I'd say keep yourself busy and try your best to forget the jerk
  • Aug 26, 2008, 08:28 PM
    Ash123
    One note: please read your own words below:

    "He says he does not love me anymore."

    Please ask yourself what is special about your relationship.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    Feel free to list them here if you want... or, put up a pro/con list.

    Good luck and hang in there... I'm just glad we are not sitting here trying to get back an Ivy League, nice guy, who loves you, and you communicate well with, and makes you feel like a real woman, and best friend, and loves your family, and his, and wants to show you off to the world... then, I'd feel more pressure...
  • Aug 27, 2008, 08:41 AM
    talaniman
    I hate to see people run head first into a brick wall, and wonder why there head hurts.

    You have effectively made this guy into some type of love thing, and want more, but he doesn't give it to you. If your head was harder you could knock down that brick wall and not have a headache.

    You have had enough of a preview of life with this fellow, and your not happy. Disappear from his life, and stop running head first into that brick wall, as he will never change, and has proved that he doesn't want to give you what you want, or need.

    So what's the point of staying in this situation?? Oh, that's right your in love, and he is the best thing that has happened to you. To bad he doesn't feel the same, as his actions, speak louder than his words.
  • Aug 30, 2008, 10:18 AM
    LovelyGirlAmI
    talaniman

    I guess I have been in denial. This feels like death to me. I feel like a part of me is truly dying. I f this is truly over I will not get over it. I will go on but I can feel a permanent change and I have not been wanting to face it.

    I have been in sheer ecstasy since the moment we met. I never thought I could feel feeling like I had. I am in my 40's and that is sad that it took this long to experience love.

    I believed with all my heart and soul that this man was my soul mate. I never believed in those things before. I never loved anybody before.

    If this is the end, it is enormously painful. I have never felt this kind of pain expect for watching 3 of my family members die young and the sudden death of a man I dated when I was 21.

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