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  • May 15, 2008, 06:10 PM
    Mark G
    Read about my EX GF, I want your Experience
    My GF of 1.5 years just broke up with me. She told me she doesn't see me in the Romantic way anymore. This hurt, though I know I have become more passive in our relationship and she has become more demanding, etc. We previously broke up for 1 month because at that time I became clingy. I have NOT been that way since then, I have corrected that quality. She told me she is not IN LOVE with me anymore and that we gave it a chance after we broke up the first time. I used to be carefree and every time I feel her pulling back recently I come on strong. I realize many will tell me to move on, though this is my first relationship and I would like your advice on re-attracting her, if any possibility, even small. We were also best friends and shared evertything together and to just have her leave like that hurts. Any way to get her thinking and possibly re-attracting to her. All experience appreciated. Thanks.
  • May 15, 2008, 09:37 PM
    bigbird213
    I know you said you want advice on how to re-attract her and you don't want to be told to move on. So for that reason, I won't tell you to move on. But at the same time, I won't tell you how to re-attract her. Trying to get someone back almost always ends in failure, and when it does work out, it never works out the way the person intends.

    I tend to think that the solution to your problem is the answer you don't want to hear. On of the best ways to "re-attract" someone is to move on and let them know that you don't need them (especially with your history of clingyness), however many times the person who has moved on doesn't want to get back together anymore...

    Food for thought.
  • May 15, 2008, 11:26 PM
    WhatN3XT
    Your quest to change her mind about how she feels about you can only start with your actions from this day forward. And once you are over her, and made yourself that "guy she fell for" is available again. I think you may be saying to yourself " these old ppl don't know what I'm going through" we have been down your path... in my case multipal times.

    First, check all the support that is available on here. I am not the only one that tried to get their girl back. I know it is hard to read all the post starting with " fix yourself" " make yourself happy" etc. It is true, once you become that person that your ex fell for... well someone else will fall for you. And you will forget about the one that made you that way. And that day, you should celebrate.

    I would bet my next pay check, that you would rather be with the new relationship than go back to never knowing if your ex would work out.
  • May 16, 2008, 04:59 AM
    Mark G
    From your experiences, has she lost all feelings for me? Can you do that after a year and a half. I appreciate the HONESTY, I miss her Dearly and like I said she really is my Best Friend though I told her yesterday on the phone it's a waste to throw away our friendship and she told me she is not ready. How is she not ready? Is this possible? I mean she broke up w/ me..
  • May 16, 2008, 05:27 AM
    bigbird213
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mark G
    From your experiences, has she lost all feelings for me? Can you do that after a year and a half.

    Not only a year and a half, 2 years, 4 years, 5 years... It happens and it is most certainly possible. Generally, however, you feel the sting much worse then they do because they have been growing distant slowly. We are just too blind and caught up in emotion to notice. Chances are she has been pulling away from the relationship over time. Whether they do this consciously or not, I don't know, but it definitely happens. That's why many times they seem to handle it much better (they being the dumper).
  • May 16, 2008, 06:33 AM
    Mark G
    Thank you for your Help. Should I have No Contact? She was my best friend as well and I would like to continue that. Also If she is to see me as the man she fell for (strong, independent, etc.), how can she do so if I don't have contact?
  • May 16, 2008, 06:54 AM
    bigbird213
    Mark,

    I think your starting to fall into a common trap among people who try to use NC. You want to use it but you keep the idea of making her jealous/miss you/etc in the back of your mind. The problem with that is you won't ever be able to commit fully to NC. Its like being an alcoholic trying to quit but looking to the end of the week so you can have a beer. Its just not going to work out...

    To address your other question, being strong, independent, etc is what NC is all about. Its about showing that your independent and strong and that you can survive on your own. The reality of NC is that once you accomplish this, chances are you won't want her back. You'll realize everything wasn't as good as you think it was through your rose colored glasses. You'll get excited about meeting someone new and moving forward and growing into a more complete person.

    Ask yourself this: When did you notice her the most in recent history? Probably when she disappeared... see how that works?
  • May 16, 2008, 08:22 AM
    talaniman
    This is my first relationship and I would like your advice on re-attracting her
    Sorry no one knows how to change someones mind like that, but since this is your first relationship, you must learn how to cope with your first break up.
    From your experiences, has she lost all feelings for me?
    Not lost, my friend, but changed as we humans are prone to do.
    Can you do that after a year and a half.
    Any human can have a change of heart any time
    Should I have No Contact?
    Yes you should, to let the emotional dust settle, and give you a chance to cope with your hurt feelings, and loss in a positive way.
    She was my best friend as well and I would like to continue that.
    The friendship cannot be healthy until the friends are healthy, and right now, you both can stand to heal.
    Also If she is to see me as the man she fell for (strong, independent, etc.), how can she do so if I don't have contact?
    Part of being an adult is accepting what life throws at us and realize its to late to impress someone, and when to regroup and move ahead with our lives. Sorry for your loss, but it will get better.

    Click on the links in my signature, to see that you are not alone, and we all have been there.
  • May 17, 2008, 06:42 AM
    Mark G
    Once again, thank you for your Input. I met my EX GF for lunch yesterday and told her I agreed with the breakup, and then dropped it and continued on normally to which she responded, hust to get her talking. Should I still leave her alone or can I follow up with another meeting. Thanks for your help guys I appreciate it
  • May 17, 2008, 08:15 AM
    bigbird213
    Drop it and let her make the next move. Get on being busy and healthy by yourself.
  • May 17, 2008, 09:26 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Should I still leave her alone or can I follow up with another meeting
    What would be your point? You think you can talk her into changing her mind, and taking you back?
  • May 17, 2008, 09:52 AM
    Alty
    Okay, a female perspective here.

    One guy in particular comes to mind. I broke up with him, he took it really hard, he kept calling, saying "let's be friends" I agreed to meet with him. We went out for a bite to eat, he said that his friends were having a party, did I want to go? I said sure friend. The "party" ended up being at a hotel, no one else was there, he had rented the room for us so that we could talk and work on our "relationship". What relationship, friends don't go to a hotel room together. I told him that, he said, "I'm trying to make you see that I love you, I spent allot of money on this room, you owe me something." What? I agreed to be friends, I made it clear that the relationship was over, I never once asked you to change for me, I just don't want to be together anymore. He tried calling a few more times after that, and sadly I didn't learn the first time, I really hoped we could be friends, but he never accepted it. I went to NC. Six years later I was getting ready to marry my wonderful husband. The day before the wedding my ex called "Have you wised up yet? When you realize that you made a mistake I'll be here waiting."

    Just go to NC, forget about her and move on. When you can accept the fact that friendship is the only thing you'll ever get, then perhaps you can be friends. As long as you are still trying to change yourself in order to get her back, there is no hope of friendship.

    Good Luck.
  • May 17, 2008, 10:45 AM
    Ash123
    You might want to read the posting below. He has s similar issue. But frankly, I think you may need to move on bud - hang in there!

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/relati...do-216785.html

    After that, look over the survival guide i have listed in bold below. The pain is excruciating, so you need mental first aid fast!
  • May 17, 2008, 03:57 PM
    Mark G
    Since all of you are being so generous with your experiences (Females included), I would also like your take on this: We broke up after 1 year together and we were apart for 1 month. During that month, I told her I accepted her decision, and was a strong, independent person, but we still saw each other, went to lunch, a few dinners (as friends), etc. After a few weeks of this she told me she wanted to give it another shot. During that time I DID have Contact with her though I looked at her not wanting to "get her back", rather to just to have fun together. That is what I feel like now was well. Soo, having said that, any change in advice/contact, etc. Thank You in Advance, I appreciate your Help and Honesty.
  • May 17, 2008, 04:57 PM
    Ash123
    She was downshifting you into the friend zone.
    Maybe she'll date you more... maybe she won't.
    If you are cool with that, then let it go at that.

    Otherwise, you need to take time before you can be in the F-Zone.
    Silence works best. Once you are over the pain, you can be friends if you want -
    ON YOUR TERMS.

    The middle ground only works if you are not in love - which you ARE...

    BE strong and be yourself... and be on your own a while...
  • May 17, 2008, 06:34 PM
    talaniman
    So you have been through this before, and she has come back. Well you haven't evolved very far since getting back together then have you? Are we seeing a pattern emerging? Curious as to what seems to be breaking you up every year? Was it the same reason now as before?
  • May 17, 2008, 07:00 PM
    Mark G
    Not quite, when we got back together after breaking up, she wanted to give it another chance but ultimately she told me she is not IN LOVE with me.. I don't really understand it but that's what she says and also that she doesn't see me in the romantic way and if it hasn't come back then it won't. The thing is, we truly do have such an amazing time together and relate to one another. She knows everything about me and me about her, she used to call me up telling me she misses me and wants to cuddle, etc. Now I know she has been going out w/ her friends a lot, I feel like I want to ask her to meet up since I hope to spend time w/ her... sorry for rambling, just confused
  • May 17, 2008, 07:05 PM
    Alty
    Love is confusing, and so is the loss of love. Honey, long story short, you can't make someone love you, no matter how much you love her. I understand that you are hurt, I know you want her back, but the longer you hold on to hoping that will happen, the longer it will take for you to get over this and move on. It's time to let her go, time to heal yourself, build your life and get over her. You'll be amazed how a few days, weeks, months can change how you feel about all of this, spend that time on you, not on her, because I can guarantee, for her it's over, and she has already moved on.
  • May 18, 2008, 02:55 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    she wanted to give it another chance but ultimately she told me she is not IN LOVE with me.. I don't really understand it but that's what she says and also that she doesn't see me in the romantic way and if it hasn't come back then it won't.
    She likes you as a friend to hang out and talk to, but kissing and cuddling ain't going to happen any more. In other words friendzone, and yes she is moving on.
    Back away, and give yourself some time to understand, you like her a lot more than she likes you. Time to regroup, and wish her well. Click on the links in my signature, and read the stickies to help your understanding.
  • May 18, 2008, 09:55 PM
    Mark G
    How long before I can contact her and at least meet
  • May 18, 2008, 09:57 PM
    Alty
    When you aren't so eager to see her. You have to get over her, stop thinking that you are going to get her back, you aren't ready to be "just friends" yet, and seeing her now will only hurt you more. Really Mark, let her call you, and when you are ready to accept that you are just friends then you can get together, anything else will only end up hurting you, trust me on this one, okay?
  • May 19, 2008, 04:31 AM
    Mark G
    Yes. I am sorry to ramble on, I just want to add one thing to what you said. You said Im not ready to be friends. After we broke up a first time, I wasn't ready to be friends but we did spend time together as friends and I showed her the person She fell in love with, and then she told me she wanted to give it another chance.
  • May 19, 2008, 04:36 AM
    bigbird213
    Mark,

    If your not ready to be friends you shouldn't be talking to her. Simple as that.

    She wanted to give you another chance because you showed her your still the person that she fell in love with. Well, how did that turn out? Not well obviously. You cannot be friends with her until you have had time to undergo some serious changes within yourself. And these changes won't come as long as you have contact.
  • May 19, 2008, 05:36 AM
    talaniman
    You can be friends when you can accept that friends is all there is, and cope with that fact. I don't think that's just your problem, but hers as well. You both need sometime to get over each other and balance your lives with something else, besides each other. Don't be selfish consider her side also. She has been very clear she doesn't see this as a long term thing. You can be friends, when you can stop pushing for more than she is willing to give. That can take time.
  • May 19, 2008, 06:01 AM
    Questions2007
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mark G
    My GF of 1.5 years just broke up with me. She told me she doesn't see me in the Romantic way anymore. This hurt, though I know I have become more passive in our relationship and she has become more demanding, etc. We previously broke up for 1 month b/c at that time I became clingy. I have NOT been that way since then, I have corrected that quality. She told me she is not IN LOVE with me anymore and that we gave it a chance after we broke up the first time. I used to be carefree and everytime I feel her pulling back recently I come on strong. I realize many will tell me to move on, though this is my first relationship and I would like your advice on re-attracting her, if any possibility, even small. We were also best friends and shared evertything together and to just have her leave like that hurts. Any way to get her thinking and possibly re-attracting to her. All experience appreciated. Thanks.

    The more you try to re-attract her the more you will fail. The best thing to do is to move forward without her in your life. You will find then that you probably don't want to be with her anyway. If she comes back, then you can deal with it then.
  • May 20, 2008, 12:49 PM
    damaged
    hey,
    I agree with BigBird213..don't talk/see/txt her any more..I know it will be very hard(im in the same situation you are) so it's really hard but just let it go man.Some days will be harder than others but eventually it gets easier, you'll get used to it..;)
  • May 21, 2008, 10:03 AM
    Mark G
    Hi, I have one last thing to ask. I just contacted my EX GF, I told her she made the right Decision to break up, and that It is a shame to throw away our friendship/good times we have together even though we are not together. (We broke up once before and when I said this, we started hanging out as friends and got back together). We are/were Best friends and basically when we broke up and then began to hang out again, she realized how much we have and wanted to give it another go. I honestly believe we have an incredible connection. She told me she needs no contact now before we become friends because she needs to get over the relationship. Please don't take this the wrong way, but last time we had contact and got back together, so I do want to continue to see her. Please give me any tips, she is young (20) and I may come across as selfish but I know she does care for me and I don't want to lose contact and more importantly, her in my life. Thank You
  • May 21, 2008, 10:11 AM
    Alty
    Mark, I'm going to try one more time. You are not ready for contact because you aren't ready to be just friends. She is trying to tell you that she doesn't want a romantic relationship with you, in order to get that through your head, she has opted for NC. You keep hoping that if she agrees to see you that she'll take you back, that's what she's trying to avoid. When you are ready to accept that you to are not going to have a romantic relationship, then you can contact her, until then, NC, because you are still trying to get her back. Let it go Mark, this is not helping you, you have to accept that it's over.

    Good Luck.
  • May 21, 2008, 10:21 AM
    amcasbur
    I have been through the same thing. My boyfriend, now ex, was very clingy. He would always want to be with me and hold me, I became very sick of him after four years of being with him. So during our fourth year I found that I was falling out of love with him, we were basically bored of one another. We're still friends but we were just too different, we didn't share the same goals anymore. I think it is a combination of becoming bored with a relationship and not being in a romantic love anymore. I like to call the first year of being together "newlywed syndrome" because the first year of a relationship is happy, fun, exciting and new. After that year you have to remind yourself how much you love each other and keep trying new and fun things to do together. If it becomes monotonous you fall out of love. I would suggest taking some time to renew yourself, this might bring her back. If not I guarantee you will find someone better. I was patient and now I'm living with my current boyfriend of 1.5 years and we have more good times then I ever had with my ex in the four years we stuck together. Don't let a long relationship become a crutch, change is difficult but it is not necessarily a bad thing.
  • May 21, 2008, 11:54 AM
    bigbird213
    Mark,

    I'm not going to give you advice on how to hurt yourself even further.

    I will give you advice on how to get better... listen to her, give her what she asks and stop contacting her. Not only will contacting her hold her back (she just asked you for NC), but its going to hold you back too...

    She asked you, politely, not to contact her for a while. Some people would consider that a luxury.
  • May 21, 2008, 12:11 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    She told me she needs no contact now before we become friends because she needs to get over the relationship.
    Go ahead, and ignore everything we have said, and ignore what she has said, and do it your own way, and let us know if it worked out, or not.
    Quote:

    I don't want to lose contact and more importantly, her in my life. Thank You
    Asked and answered many times in this post by many people, including your ex.
  • May 21, 2008, 02:28 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman
    Go ahead, and ignore everything we have said, and ignore what she has said, and do it your own way, and let us know if it worked out, or not.

    Asked and answered many times in this post by many people, including your ex.

    Exactly. Our advice is falling on deaf ears. I guess the OP is just going to have to learn this one the hard way.
  • May 21, 2008, 03:08 PM
    Ash123
    Here's the good news: The less you do the more you do.

    Try to process this: Women respond to a man's absence better than his presence if they are wavering... The magic solution you are looking for lies in this, not in games or manipulation of her time. Really.

    The posted advice you are getting is not because they do not feel your pain, but it's because they have... and you need to put it all in her court - not yours...
    And focus on yourself. Consider it a time-out from all relationship responsibilities.
  • May 21, 2008, 04:02 PM
    spion_kop
    Mark G, take it from me, I went NC with my ex and she is dying to call me and want to know what's happening in my life. I too wanted my ex back until I realized that I need to work on myself and that she isn't the right one for me.

    Get control of your emotions and life. Focus on yourself and not her. Who knows man, in the future you two may get back together, but right now is not a good time.

    Let her go, and get a grip of yourself. Help her by helping yourself first. Get out before you can actually get in.

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