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  • Mar 10, 2008, 10:20 AM
    freakinconfused
    Say one Thing and You do Another
    What up with this?

    I've been talking to this girl on match.com (yes, I figured I'd try it out) for the past week or so. I sent her a wink a month ago to let her know I was interested. I had forgotten all about her as she didn't return my wink, but then out of the blue she sent me an email saying she liked my profile and would like to know more about me.

    We emailed back and forth some and everything seemed to be going well. However, it's important to note that there were some large gaps in the time it would take her to email back though - I think once it was like 5 or 6 days. I had pretty much given up on her, but then she emailed me back and gave me her number, saying the emails were getting long and she had a lot to say. So, I gave her a call. I got voice mail of course, which was to be expected, as she said she might be busy that night. She called me back the next night, but I was at a basketball game so I didn't hear my phone. By the time I noticed it was too late. I gave her a call the next day, and she didn't answer, so I left my phone at home and went out with some friends to grab a quick beer. When I got home, I noticed that she had called back almost right after I left. She left me a message with her AIM name in it, and told me to get online at work so we could chat and set up a time to talk on the phone.

    I got online the next day and chatted with her for a bit at work, but we didn't set up a time that day, as I was busy, and she had signed off for the day while I was away from the computer.

    The following day I saw her online, and we talked all day long. She seemed really cool! We had a lot in common as far as job and interests, and seemed like someone I would date. Plus, she was pretty cute - at least from her pictures. I asked if she had Facebook and gmail, and she gave both of them to me without hesitation. I kind of let her do most of the talking. I just kept asking her interesting questions so she could talk about herself, and would answer any questions she asked me, but try to keep my answers short. At some point in the conversation I told her "OK, no more phone tag." and said I was going to call her that night, and asked her when was a good time to call. We set up a time - around 10 or 10:30PM. The conversation went on for a little bit more, but then she signed off without saying bye or anything.

    Anyway, I called her that night, but wherever she was at was loud and I couldn't really hear her (it was a Friday night, so she might have been out). She asked if she could call back in an hour or so. I told her sure, I might be out drinking but why the hell not. So of course she never called, which is too bad, because I was going to ask her if she would like to meet me for coffee the next evening.

    Two days went by and there was no call. I get to work today (Monday) and she is nowhere to be found online. Maybe she's busy, or maybe she's not at work today, or MAYBE she simply is now avoiding me? Seems a bit ridiculous to be doing that already though, as we haven't even met each other yet, and from what I can tell all of our emails/chats have gone fine.

    What the hell do I do?

    I know it seems like a stupid question, but I'm really not up for a bunch of game playing. I did too much of that as I was going through a breakup with my girlfriend of 4 years, which was about 6 months ago, and I don't want to deal with any of that bull$hit right now. However, I also realize that game playing is involved in dating, whether I want it to be or not, so if I got to do it, I guess I will.


    People I've asked for advice have given me both options. Some say I should wait for her to call, because that's what she said she would do, and she needs to follow through or it's not worth it - if I were to call her that would make me seem needy. Others say that girls say they are going to call all the time and don't as a way of testing the guy to see if he's really interested. Well, I'm definitely interested but I barely even know her and have never actually MET her. I don't want to play into any stupid games, and I don't want to take any sort of submissive position in any future relationship I get myself into. So I don't know what to do. What I don't get is why she would give me her number, talk to me all day long, return every call up until now, but then not call back when she said she would, or at least call the next day? Stupid girls. :)

    My plan as of right now was to call her tonight, and if she didn't answer then just forget about her and look for someone else. It would be a shame though, as I feel like we would get along very well.

    Anyone?
  • Mar 10, 2008, 10:29 AM
    HistorianChick
    Darlin, if you don't want to play the game, then don't play. Its really that simple. It does sound like she's playing a game. Granted, she might truly just be busy, she might have signed off without saying goodbye because something came up or her boss walked in the room, or she may be testing you... but "testing you" is simply playing the game.

    I think you're on the right track. Call her tonight, be cool and collected, but just decide that you're not going to play! She'd have lost something good. :)

    You don't have to deal with this if you don't want to. Yes, you guys had chemistry, but believe me, there are a plethora of other girls with whom you can have the same (or better) chemistry!
  • Mar 10, 2008, 10:30 AM
    BMI
    Too much speculation.

    Missed calls and logging off the computer are not great indicators of whatshe is thinking. These social networks leave a lot to the imagination. CALL her, actually SPEAK to her, and ask her out, that's it. NOW, if you call and she does not answer, leave a detailed message and tell her to call you back, if she doesn't, you have your answer. Just simplify the whole thing.

    You like her, your going to call her to ask her out, if she likes you she will accept and call you back if she misses the call.

    Focus on that and not all the other stuff that can clutter your judgement and make what you have to do a lot harder.
  • Mar 10, 2008, 10:35 AM
    freakinconfused
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BMI
    Too much speculation.

    Missed calls and logging off the computer are not great indicators of whatshe is thinking. These social networks leave alot tothe imagination. CALL her, actually SPEAK to her, and ask her out, thats it. NOW, if you call and she does not answer, leave a detailed message and tell her to call you back, if she doesn't, you have your answer. Just simplify the whole thing.

    You like her, your going to call her to ask her out, if she likes you she will accept and call you back if she misses the call.

    Focus on that and not all the other stuff that can clutter your judgement and make what you have to do alot harder.


    Word 'em up. That's what I had planned on doing tonight because I felt like perhaps I was thinking too much into something that's probably nothing. I just wanted to post up on here and see what everyone had to say. I guess what I'm getting at is, if she said she would call but didn't, and then I call, does that make me seem... um, "needy" I guess? I'm simply saying that I expect people to do what they say they will, be it friends, family, girlfriend, whatever. Maybe that's an unrealistic expectation...
  • Mar 10, 2008, 11:24 AM
    confused25
    Slow down, what's the rush? It's great to be excited but in my opinion it sounds like you are too eager to get something going here. Personally I would wait a little longer before calling because the deal was that she was going to call you back. She may be busy so wait for her to make the next move. She could very well be playing games but I think that women like it when the guy refuses to play along and does whatever he wants. More importantly you save yourself the confusion.

    Case in point, here is my experience with a similar situation. I was in a relationship with this girl about 2 years ago and when we first started dating the communication went hot and cold. We initially talked quite a bit and had a lot in common. Then all of a sudden it would take her about 2 weeks to e-mail me back. So what did I do? Well, I wasn't going to waste my time with someone who wasn't consistent and punctual with their communication, so when she finally e-mailed me I decided I didn't care and I waited a little more then 2 weeks to e-mail her back. You know what happened? She e-mailed me back that same day.

    Don't make this girl a priority. Just go about your life and go with the flow. No use in stressing over someone you never even met.
  • Mar 10, 2008, 12:36 PM
    freakinconfused
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by confused25
    She could very well be playing games but I think that women like it when the guy refuses to play along and does whatever he wants. More importantly you save yourself the confusion.

    See I was thinking that originally. BUT I also don't want to throw out the vibe that I'm not interested either, which could be a result of my "refusing" to play along... but she did say she would call and didn't, so assuming I'm avoiding game play, then it should be up to her. I mean, like I said before, I'd rather not deal with the bull$hit. I'm not 18 anymore. I expect certain things out of people I interact with and one of them is doing what you say you are going to, unless there's an emergency or something. Otherwise it's not worth my effort.

    I don't want to come across as sounding desperate or anything. I'm just saying that it would be a shame to let this one pass by, as I'm fairly certain we would get along quite well assuming we actually met up and talked one day. But if she can't simply call back within a reasonable amount of time, then #uck it.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by confused25
    Don't make this girl a priority. Just go about your life and go with the flow. No use in stressing over someone you never even met.

    Also very, very true.

    You can see my confusion though. One of you has said I'm on the right track and should call her tonight. The other has said don't make her a priority and let her respond. I know ultimately I'll have to decide what to do, but I just wanted to see if the majority leans one way or another.
  • Mar 10, 2008, 12:52 PM
    confused25
    Yeah you should definitely wait to hear everybody's opinions because every one has different experience when it comes to these things.

    Well, I think calling her is a great idea, but not just yet. In my opinion you should wait another day or two. It's hard to say if she is playing games. She may genuinely be busy or dealing with some tough times. That's why in my opinion patience is best. If she is busy then she will appreciate the fact that you are not pushy (you've only been talking for a week). Also, if she is really interested in you then she won't mind that you called a few days later (you don't want to deal with a girl who loses interest so quickly anyway).

    The way I see it is if she's not willing to make some time to call me then why should I be so quick to call her. I have better things to do and plenty of other women to meet.
  • Mar 28, 2008, 10:29 AM
    freakinconfused
    Eh
  • Mar 28, 2008, 02:42 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Don't make this girl a priority. Just go about your life and go with the flow. No use in stressing over someone you never even met.
    Love this phrase as its so true.
    Its so easy to assume things when we get no feedback or communication or actions from others in which we can base an opinion on or make a plan with. First if someone says they will do something, let them do it, or leave it alone. If she never calls, so what, you always have other things to do, and be yourself and stop worrying about sending out the wrong vibe, as she may see things her own way anyway. Me, I don't put all my eggs in her basket, and don't worry if she never calls, as you can meet someone else, as easily as you met her. Keep the options open, and keep it moving.
  • Mar 28, 2008, 06:53 PM
    freakinconfused
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman
    Love this phrase as its so true.
    Its so easy to assume things when we get no feedback or communication or actions from others in which we can base an opinion on or make a plan with. First if someone says they will do something, let them do it, or leave it alone. If she never calls, so what, you always have other things to do, and be yourself and stop worrying about sending out the wrong vibe, as she may see things her own way anyway. Me, I don't put all my eggs in her basket, and don't worry if she never calls, as you can meet someone else, as easily as you met her. Keep the options open, and keep it moving.

    Haha, turns out I actually did meet her. Once for coffee to see if she was who she said she was (ya never know with online dating), another time for a beer, and just last night I took her out to eat and watch a game of NCAA Basketball Tourney. She seems like a pretty cool girl, pretty good looking, very easy to talk to, and someone I'm definitely interested in. Plus, she likes pretty much all the same things I do. Only problem now is trying to get to feel more romantic feelings for me. Any advice in that area would be helpful!

    So far I've: Set up the time and location of each place we've met, with the exception of last time which was a compromise (but really in my favor) - in other words I tried to take some initiative and be in charge of the situation. Got her smiling and laughing some. Complemented her but not overly so. Paid the last two times we went out. I think she likes me but it's hard to tell, because she seems to have a good time when we go out, and so far she hasn't said no when I've asked her out. We had an pretty good time last time (or so I thought). She even invited me in when I picked her up last time, and in again when I dropped her off so that I could meet her roommate. BUT, she doesn't really give off any readable signs that point to wanting to be more physical. She doesn't twirl her hair or anything that could be a sign of "hey I really like you." So, I don't know. Crazy girls!
  • Mar 29, 2008, 02:55 PM
    freakinconfused
    I did notice, however, after thinking about it some, she was kind of mirroring my actions, which I think is a good sign. Basically if I turned to face her and rested my head on my hand while I talked to her, she sort of did the same. Also, and the end of the night I remember standing in her apartment with my hands halfway in my pockets in sort of a "I'm standing here chilling" fashion, and she did the same. I hate this crap! I swear, I over analyze everything.

    Also, I sent her a short text last night and no response! Also, she's usually online every day at work, but yesterday (day after date) she was nowhere to be found! Perhaps she didn't have as much fun as I did. I'll wait until tomorrow and give her a call. If she answers, awesome. If not, I'll leave a message and try again two days later. If she doesn't return the message or answer the second time, well... that's that then!
  • Mar 29, 2008, 03:19 PM
    talaniman
    What is it you expect her to do fall in your arms and give you the best booty you ever had? Personally she is keeping her distance making sure your not a player after one thing or a pervert. This isn't a game on her part, but some smart caution, while getting to know the real you. I don't think she is that comfortable with you yet.
  • Mar 29, 2008, 04:37 PM
    freakinconfused
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman
    What is it you expect her to do fall in your arms and give you the best booty you ever had? Personally she is keeping her distance making sure your not a player after one thing or a pervert. This isn't a game on her part, but some smart caution, while getting to know the real you. I don't think she is that comfortable with you yet.


    Good point. And no, I don't expect that. All I was hoping for was some kind of sign that she might actually be interested. Otherwise I'd feel like I'd be wasting my time as far as looking for a new girl. Of course, if it doesn't work out, perhaps I'll have a new, cool friend... but that's not my goal really. All I was looking for was some pointers on what I could do to help it move in a more romantic direction.

    Only real sign I've got so far is that she hasn't said NO to me asking her out, and last time was definitely a date. The first two times were just friendly encounters. I'm just looking to continue the seduction I guess (if that's what you call it). I was just hoping for some sign from her that I'm goin' the right direction. Guess I'll find out when I ask her out again...

    What I need to do is just not think about it... but once something gets in my mind it goes round and round... its my fatal flaw :)
  • Mar 29, 2008, 05:21 PM
    drnidz
    I think you are pretty much excited about your new affair after a breakup , and that's why thinking about it all the time :), I feel its natural , but try to appear more caring and friendly to her give her time and space that she might need , and you know haste makes waste , if you like her , she definitely noticed that so give her time to decide about u :)
  • Mar 29, 2008, 11:36 PM
    freakinconfused
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by drnidz
    i think you are pretty much excited about your new affair after a breakup , and thats why thinking about it all the time :), i feel its natural , but try to appear more caring and friendly to her give her time and space that she might need , and you know haste makes waste , if u like her , she definitely noticed that so give her time to decide about u :)

    You are absolutely right. Thank you!
  • Mar 30, 2008, 10:00 AM
    freakinconfused
    I was simply asking what everyone thought my next step should be. She didn't respond to my text Friday night, which is fine. I don't always respond to texts either. So I waited a day, and was planning on giving her a call today to see if she'd like to do something sometime next week. I don't want to wait too long though, because that might give off the impression that I didn't have a good time, which I did. But I also don't want to be all over her this early either, because then I come across as not being a challenge and kind of creepy I guess.
  • Mar 30, 2008, 10:37 AM
    talaniman
    Text her a "thanks for a good" time and call tomorrow.
  • Mar 31, 2008, 07:04 AM
    freakinconfused
    See I have some weird sense to where I instantly know when I'm not going to be talking to a girl again. After I didn't see her online the day after our date, and after I sent that text the other night and she didn't respond, I figured I wouldn't be hearing from her. I have no idea why though! I thought we had fun on our date.

    I called and left her a message last night that said "Hey its ***, hope everything is well with you. I had a good time last Thurs and was wondering if you would like to do something early on this week. Call me back if you get this, or maybe I'll talk to you online tomorrow?" Well of course she didn't return my call, and I get to work today and she is nowhere to be found online, again. Bummer.

    Now I'm going to try and not be a "the glass is half empty" type dude - there could be other reasons as to why she's not online and didn't return my call. Who knows. I do know she was at work Friday and today (Monday) because I drive right by there on my way to work. My gut tells me though that I probably said or did something, and she lost all interest in me. Should I try calling her again in a couple of days, or just leave the ball in her court now? I definitely don't want to come across as desperate sounding. I waited 3 days after our date to call her. Only thing I did was send a short text the next night that didn't have anything to do with our date.

    At the end of the date though she did ask me if she would see me online and I told her of course. Don't know where she is though...
  • Mar 31, 2008, 07:30 AM
    jolienoire
    Freakinconfused, if you are dating, then why does it seem you are just waiting on this one girl to give you confirmation. If she wanted another date or to talk to you she would have text you back or called, I really think messaging and text is an easy way to avoid communication verbally and she hasn't even done that. So don't call her or text anymore. Besides if you met her on a dating site, odds are she is still on her hunt could be going on other dates, if this is the case then understand she is widening her options in which you should be doing as well. Perhaps, the date went well but maybe she didn't feel a connection, anyway that's beside the point, the point is to not dwell too much energy on this one. I suggest that you keep dating.. I know you are in search of something real and would much rather be exclusive with one person, however, you still have to date and have fun, go on the date with low expectations.. and just enjoy being single for now..
  • Mar 31, 2008, 08:04 AM
    talaniman
    You sent the text, so now the ball's in her court, and the other areas of your life, are waiting for your attention. It's absolutely to soon, and not healthy, to expect she responds so quickly, just because you want her to. Let it go, and focus on your own life. Gee Whiz, you text last night, and now your getting all down because she hasn't let you know something? Give her time to think. She is hardly the only date in town you know (maybe you aren't either). For sure you shouldn't be that focused on her.
  • Mar 31, 2008, 08:52 AM
    freakinconfused
    I texted her Friday night (night after date) and she didn't respond. I called her last night (Sunday), with no response. Plus, since the date she hasn't been online at all, even though at the end of the date she asked me if we would talk online and I told her absolutely. Plus, she invited me in after the date. Who does that if they didn't have a good time? I wouldn't.

    You are right though, I don't really need to focus hard on one person. I guess my main concern though is if I did something wrong to put her off, because that would be something I would need to work on when it comes to future dates. If I didn't do anything wrong and she didn't enjoy the date, well then I am fine with that because there's nothing I can do about that. Problem is I have no way to tell, because it's not like she's going to tell me. I didn't FEEL like I did anything wrong on the date - I thought we had a good time! I probably could have been more polite as far as opening the car door, pulling up her seat, etc, but otherwise I thought it was good!

    That is what confuses me. Why would she ask if we'd be talking online and so on if she was going to pull a complete 180 and not answer texts, calls, or even be online at all. THAT's why I feel like I did something completely wrong and don't know it. I mean, if she had just an OK time, is that any reason to just disappear? Only reason I could see for her disappearing would be if she had a horrible time. Either that, or some other extraneous circumstance that doesn't involve me at all.

    As far as her being active on match.com, her profile says she hasn't been active for over 3 weeks, right about when I started talking to her, so who knows... I'm definitely not going to call her or text her again though, as that looks like it would be a waste of time at this point. Any other pointers? Do girls normally do this kind of crap even if they are interested? You know, as a sort of hot/cold baiting type thing? Last girlfriend I had didn't do this at all. She knew I liked her and I knew she liked me right back and I didn't have to deal with this kind of stuff. We dated for 4 years so I've been out of the game for a bit.. so I have no idea.
  • Mar 31, 2008, 08:56 AM
    jolienoire
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by freakinconfused
    .

    I guess my main concern though is if I did something wrong to put her off, because that would be something I would need to work on when it comes to future dates.


    Uh no, your missing the point perhaps something is wrong with her... You always think it's something that you have to change. You need to be comfortable with who you are and stop looking for reassurance from others.. In the end the only opinion that matters is your own judgement of yourself. Perhaps this woman has commitment issues, etc, or just wasn't attentive enough, but you think its' you... Before you date I think you should take a little more time to accept who you are unless you will work too hard trying to please others... and become dependent on others to fulfill your happiness..
  • Mar 31, 2008, 09:02 AM
    jolienoire
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by freakinconfused
    Do girls normally do this kind of crap even if they are interested? You know, as a sort of hot/cold baiting type thing? .


    Has nothing to do with male or female, Some people in nature don't like to hurt others so they give them a sign as you received I think you know the answer, sure you want them to be upfront, but welcome to reality.. its' up to you do decide what you are willing to accept.. anyway actions speak louder than words...
  • Mar 31, 2008, 09:05 AM
    freakinconfused
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jolienoire
    Perhaps this woman has commitment issues, etc, or just wasn't attentive enough, but you think its' you...


    Well now that you say that, I am reminded that it took her a month to email me back after I "winked" at her. By that point I had forgotten all about her. Then, once I responded to her email, it took her a good week to even respond back. She was pretty frequent from then on out and then gave me her # without me even asking. She does have a bit of lag time sometimes... I have also sent her a text once, maybe twice, before which she never responded to, which I understand. I don't always respond to mine either. However, this is the first time where I know she's at work (she works right by where I live - I can see her car there on the way to my job), but isn't online, and the first time to where I've called and she hasn't called back. Ah well, next!
  • Mar 31, 2008, 09:09 AM
    jolienoire
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by freakinconfused
    She does have a bit of lag time sometimes... Ah well, next!

    Yes don't thinkyou would want a relationship anyway with someone who is a slacker, Oh well NEXT... let this be an early sign..
  • Mar 31, 2008, 09:36 AM
    confused25
    All right dude I'm about to come down on you kind of hard. If you re-read your posts you'll notice that you sound pretty... well... pathetic. I know its harsh, but sometimes we need a kick in the butt to get us back into reality.

    Listen, it's only been 3 days since your date and just because you haven't heard from her you're acting like the world is coming to an end. At this point she may or may not call but take comfort in the fact that you did everything right. The timeliness of your text and phone call were spot on and from my point of view you haven't been too pushy.

    So you're making all the right moves but the problem is your attitude. You are centering all your attention around this one girl after just one date. Your behavior is seriously unhealthy. Who cares if she calls! You should be thinking it's her loss. You should have confidence in yourself. Heck, you should already be thinking about the next girl you're going to take out on a date.

    Personally I suggest you take a step back from dating and work on your confidence. Trust me, if any part of your feelings that appear on these forums seeps out during your dates in any shape of form, than any girl you start seeing will begin running for the hills. Women want a Man with confidence. Be that man.
  • Mar 31, 2008, 09:49 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Before you date I think you should take a little more time to accept who you are unless you will work too hard trying to please others... and become dependent on others to fulfill your happiness..
    Quote:

    but welcome to reality.. its' up to you do decide what you are willing to accept.. anyway actions speak louder than words...
    Had to spread the rep, but these are wise words to live by.
  • Mar 31, 2008, 10:28 AM
    freakinconfused
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by confused25
    Alright dude I'm about to come down on you kind of hard. If you re-read your posts you'll notice that you sound pretty...well...pathetic. I know its harsh, but sometimes we need a kick in the butt to get us back into reality.

    Listen, it's only been 3 days since your date and just because you haven't heard from her you're acting like the world is coming to an end. At this point she may or may not call but take comfort in the fact that you did everything right. The timeliness of your text and phone call were spot on and from my point of view you haven't been too pushy.

    So you're making all the right moves but the problem is your attitude. You are centering all your attention around this one girl after just one date. Your behavior is seriously unhealthy. Who cares if she calls! You should be thinking it's her loss. You should have confidence in yourself. Heck, you should already be thinking about the next girl you're going to take out on a date.

    Personally I suggest you take a step back from dating and work on your confidence. Trust me, if any part of your feelings that appear on these forums seeps out during your dates in any shape of form, than any girl you start seeing will begin running for the hills. Women want a Man with confidence. Be that man.


    Haha you are 100% right. I sound like a whiny @$$ vagina. And no, I didn't act this way on the date because I was having a good time! I only started feeling this way when it dawned on me that perhaps she didn't, which was the next day when she wasn't online . That's when I turn to this place, to vent my feelings. I post up on here to see if everyone else thinks I'm making the right moves or not. As far a self confidence goes, you are absolutely right though. It took a major hit when my girl dumped me out of the blue after 4 years together. That was only 6 or 7 months ago. Perhaps I'm not back to 100% yet. But thanks, you are right on with this. I need to just not give a crap and move on. Still kind of hurts my feelings a bit though, but that's natural.
  • Mar 31, 2008, 11:05 AM
    K_3
    Goodness, you must be really worn out from running all of those tapes of "what If' and "did I or didn't I" events through your head. You have no idea what she thinks or what she is doing. Don't even try to guess. The biggest waste of energy and time is trying to figure out another person when you know a person let alone when you hardly know someone.
    You need to make a life for yourself that you enjoy Like yourself, feel comfortable with yourself, do not doubt yourself. You are a special, unique individual, no one else is like you. It sounds as though you are looking for someone to fill a void and make you happy. If you are comfortable with yourself and like yourself, you are a positive happy person. Not a worrier. Others pick up on that good energy and they want to be around it. You sound like a great guy, just be you without all of the worring stuff, it can follow you around like a dark cloud.

    In a day or two she will call or email you and all of this energy you spent on the drama of figuring her out will have been wasted. You could have read a book, seen a movie or met a new girl.
  • Mar 31, 2008, 11:53 AM
    freakinconfused
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by confused25
    You are centering all your attention around this one girl after just one date.

    The "date" was actually the 3rd time we had done something together. 1st time was coffee, second time was beers, 3rd time was dinner and watchin' basketball. Only reason I even consider it a date was because I went out of my way to pick her up in a nice car, made the plans essentially, paid for it all, etc. It still had a more casual and not intimate date feel, which I thought was good. Ah well it doesn't even matter at this point.
  • Mar 31, 2008, 11:59 AM
    freakinconfused
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by K_3
    In a day or two she will call or email you and all of this energy you spent on the drama of figuring her out will have been wasted. You could have read a book, seen a movie or met a new girl.

    Haha, that would be nice! Kind of skeptical of that as of right now, but that would be sweet.
  • Mar 31, 2008, 12:55 PM
    brkfstatiffs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by freakinconfused
    What up with this?

    I've been talking to this girl on match.com (yes, I figured I'd try it out) for the past week or so. I sent her a wink a month ago to let her know I was interested. I had forgotten all about her as she didn't return my wink, but then out of the blue she sent me an email saying she liked my profile and would like to know more about me.

    We emailed back and forth some and everything seemed to be going well. However, it's important to note that there were some large gaps in the time it would take her to email back though - I think once it was like 5 or 6 days. I had pretty much given up on her, but then she emailed me back and gave me her number, saying the emails were getting long and she had a lot to say. So, I gave her a call. I got voice mail of course, which was to be expected, as she said she might be busy that night. She called me back the next night, but I was at a basketball game so I didn't hear my phone. By the time I noticed it was too late. I gave her a call the next day, and she didn't answer, so I left my phone at home and went out with some friends to grab a quick beer. When I got home, I noticed that she had called back almost right after I left. She left me a message with her AIM name in it, and told me to get online at work so we could chat and set up a time to talk on the phone.

    I got online the next day and chatted with her for a bit at work, but we didn't set up a time that day, as I was busy, and she had signed off for the day while I was away from the computer.

    The following day I saw her online, and we talked all day long. She seemed really cool! We had a lot in common as far as job and interests, and seemed like someone I would date. Plus, she was pretty cute - at least from her pictures. I asked if she had facebook and gmail, and she gave both of them to me without hesitation. I kinda let her do most of the talking. I just kept asking her interesting questions so she could talk about herself, and would answer any questions she asked me, but try to keep my answers short. At some point in the convo I told her "OK, no more phone tag." and said I was going to call her that night, and asked her when was a good time to call. We set up a time - around 10 or 10:30PM. The convo went on for a little bit more, but then she signed off without saying bye or anything.

    Anyways, I called her that night, but wherever she was at was loud and I couldn't really hear her (it was a Friday night, so she might have been out). She asked if she could call back in an hour or so. I told her sure, I might be out drinking but why the hell not. So of course she never called, which is too bad, because I was going to ask her if she would like to meet me for coffee the next evening.

    Two days went by and there was no call. I get to work today (Monday) and she is nowhere to be found online. Maybe she's busy, or maybe she's not at work today, or MAYBE she simply is now avoiding me? Seems a bit ridiculous to be doing that already though, as we haven't even met each other yet, and from what I can tell all of our emails/chats have gone fine.

    What the hell do I do?

    I know it seems like a stupid question, but I'm really not up for a bunch of game playing. I did too much of that as I was going through a breakup with my girlfriend of 4 years, which was about 6 months ago, and I don't want to deal with any of that bull$hit right now. However, I also realize that game playing is involved in dating, whether I want it to be or not, so if I gotta do it, I guess I will.


    People I've asked for advice have given me both options. Some say I should wait for her to call, because that's what she said she would do, and she needs to follow through or it's not worth it - if I were to call her that would make me seem needy. Others say that girls say they are gonna call all the time and don't as a way of testing the guy to see if he's really interested. Well, I'm definitely interested but I barely even know her and have never actually MET her. I don't want to play into any stupid games, and I don't want to take any sort of submissive position in any future relationship I get myself into. So I dunno what to do. What I don't get is why she would give me her number, talk to me all day long, return every call up until now, but then not call back when she said she would, or at least call the next day?! Stupid girls. :)

    My plan as of right now was to call her tonight, and if she didn't answer then just forget about her and look for someone else. It would be a shame though, as I feel like we would get along very well.

    Anyone?

    Dude. She has a life! And right now, you are a very small part of it. I have been on online dating sites before including match, and the thing about it, is you do sometimes meet someone, play phone tag, etc for awhile... but personally, I think it's a good thing! It shows that she has a life, is busy etc, and she will get back to you at her convienence. Do not contact her again, let her call you. And if she doesn't... there are 1,0000 other women out there on Match! Don't stress about it!
  • Mar 31, 2008, 12:57 PM
    brkfstatiffs
    One more quick thing, let her call... but say if she doesn't call by the weekend, it would be okay for you to call her on Saturday and just say something like "Hey hope you had a good weekend, I enjoyed chatting online and would love to talk more"... don't imply you want to take on a date just yet, some women want to get to know you more.
  • Mar 31, 2008, 01:06 PM
    freakinconfused
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by brkfstatiffs
    One more quick thing, let her call....but say if she doesn't call by the weekend, it would be okay for you to call her on Saturday and just say something like "Hey hope you had a good weekend, I enjoyed chatting online and would love to talk more"....don't imply you want to take on a date just yet, some women want to get to know you more.

    Really though? I would figure if she didn't return a call or text, or show up online for the whole week, I'd think the signs would be pretty clear that she was not interested any longer. How long does it take to return a text? 30 seconds? I'm all down for her getting to know me more - nothing wrong with that. I'd like know her better as well. Can't do that if she won't communicate though.

    I really appreciate the responses though guys! If there's anything more to add, throw it at me.
  • Mar 31, 2008, 01:08 PM
    K_3
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by freakinconfused
    Haha, that would be nice! Kinda skeptical of that as of right now, but that would be sweet.

    Try, try really hard to believe good things will happen, guess what, they just may. :)
    Try calling her this weekend and say, I really enjoyed your company the other night, I'm kind of busy, but could take some time out for a cup of coffee if you can make it
  • Mar 31, 2008, 01:16 PM
    jolienoire
    Speaking as a woman, if I really wanted to talk to someone it will happen no matter how busy I am, Even if it's a text to say been busy will see you soon or call.. etc.. etc... Doesn't matter if it's the first date or fifth date, when the connection is there you make time.
  • Mar 31, 2008, 01:55 PM
    freakinconfused
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jolienoire
    Speaking as a woman, if I really wanted to talk to someone it will happen no matter how busy I am, Even if its a text to say been busy will see you soon or call.. etc.. etc... Doesn't matter if it's the first date or fifth date, when the connection is there you make time.

    Yep. Which is funny because the day before we went on the date she sent me a random text message out of nowhere telling me she just listened to my band's new music on myspace and thought it was awesome.
  • Mar 31, 2008, 03:10 PM
    freakinconfused
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by brkfstatiffs
    One more quick thing, let her call....but say if she doesn't call by the weekend, it would be okay for you to call her on Saturday and just say something like "Hey hope you had a good weekend, I enjoyed chatting online and would love to talk more"....don't imply you want to take on a date just yet, some women want to get to know you more.


    Also, did you read the whole post or just that paragraph?
  • Apr 1, 2008, 06:53 AM
    freakinconfused
    And no return call, no return text, nowhere to be found online again today. Bummer. Guess I'll chalk this one up to a loss!
  • Apr 1, 2008, 06:54 AM
    jolienoire
    I thought you got the point yesterday when I was going back and forth about this "date" keep dating and enjoy it, take your time..

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