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  • Nov 4, 2007, 02:52 AM
    snuffy
    Ex girlfriend Pregnant! Any hope of getting back together one day?
    My girlfriend and I finished 2 weeks ago.

    I knew in a way that things were not right for a few weeks, I'd noticed a sudden coldness and hostility.

    I'd questioned her about going out because I suspecte she would be cheating, though I back-tracked immediately.

    I made an issue of an ex boyfriend showing up at her door at 2am, which she said showed I did not trust her. I assured her I did trust her but that it was undeniably suspicious behaviour from her.

    Then we broke up, I cried, begged etc etc. I know it was all wrong to do, so after I'd done all that on the Saturday 20th October; I didn't cry anymore, I came on here and read about break-ups and got support from here.

    I decided last week that we should remain good friends since we would be seeing each other at parties and I didn't want any awkwardness.

    Then bang! She tells me she is pregnant.

    So I was asking her a million questions, allsorts going round my head at this shocking news.

    I said it would be best for baby if we were together but that I loved her still for her and wanted her to consider any chance of us getting back together. She is adamant she will not; and it is killing me.

    I know I have really good prospects, I'm still to finish my university Law degree so I have a good chance in the future of a decent job.

    I would be good for her but I guess she has to realise this herself, and me trying to persuade her will be counter-productive.


    I have offered my full support any time she wants it, so she knows this.


    My question is: Given the new complicated scenario of her being pregnant, is there really any way she may see in the future that maybe we could at least try to make a go of it.

    I've been asking her and my friends, and aparently it seems the reason for us splitting up was that I was around her too much and didn't allow her enough space. I didn't even realise I was doing this, and she never hinted. But they say that she bottles things up and doesn't reveal her emotions, which I guess is true.


    I am seriously considering going over to a relatives 4000 miles away in america for 3 months to get away for a while.

    Will me not being around for that length of time make her miss me. He knows I am madly in love with her. I really am. But I know that being around her will make her more certain that she will never get back with me.


    Do any of you know of a situation like this which has ended in the partners getting back and at least trying to make a go of things?

    Have stranger things happened. In my head there is no hope and it is killing me.

    I just want to have that chance, if it doesn't work out the fine. I know I won't repeat the same mistakes.

    I want to be a great daddy and a great partner; I know she would not regret getting back, but at the momenbt it seems there is more chance of me getting to the moon in my car.

    Please help.
  • Nov 4, 2007, 08:14 AM
    statictable
    Yes the chances are very good for a future relationship to develop as the child grows. The child's mother will want the child to have a father and the birth father would be most desirable.
    Not real clear on her feelings at this time but would think she's facing so many choices and must make many decisions and for better or for worse she's listening to some of her friends as you may be doing and this is the time to put questions to a very reliable and mature person who can speak from the mind and heart. PS is child's birth-father 100% determined? Was birth control used at any time? Be safe and stay healthy.
  • Nov 4, 2007, 08:24 AM
    linds03
    She will come back to you... give her all the time she needs. If you told her you'll always be there for her, she knows that she can make contact at any time. Let her be and she will miss you, for sure. Best of luck.
  • Nov 4, 2007, 10:51 AM
    snuffy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by linds03
    She will come back to you....give her all the time she needs. If you told her you'll always be there for her, she knows that she can make contact at any time. Let her be and she will miss you, for sure. Best of luck.


    I REALLY hope so. Just right now she is 100% certain that me and her will not get back together. Quite how she is so sure I don't know; although me hassling her about it is probably a good reason why she is so resolute.

    I know that smothering her was the only mistake I made. I was never abusive in any way, just maybe by her side too much. I would certainly have backed off had she said I was smothering her.

    It is so hard right now to let go and to leave her be. All logic suggests she might change her mind but at the moment I cannot see it.


    I know people can go from on eextreme to another so I guess disappearing is the ONLY way she can think and miss me.

    I'm just worried that asking to get back has totally damaged this hope.

    This is not fair at all.

    I am painfully in love; and even more so now that I know she is carrying our child. It is the most beautiful thought in the worl dthat there eis a life growing inside of her.


    Please to God, if I achieve nothing else all I want I sone more chance with her. If it fails so be it; I just want that chance because I know she would lve me again given the chance.

    She would not regret it.
  • Nov 4, 2007, 12:54 PM
    madaman
    Couple questions:

    I sort of remember your story, why do you want to get back with her?
    And how can you be sure the child is yours?
  • Nov 4, 2007, 02:32 PM
    linds03
    You sound like a great guy and I applaud the fact that you want to be a good daddy to your baby... I'm sure you would be. And guess what? I'm thinking that her HORMONES are playing a part in her reactions to you... keep that in mind. You'll be just fine- I would be shocked if she didn't come back to you. Let me know. Take care.
  • Nov 4, 2007, 03:13 PM
    snuffy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by madaman
    Couple questions:

    I sort of remember your story, why do you want to get back with her?
    and how can you be sure the child is yours?

    I want to get back with her because I genuinely love her, and I think the pregnancy situation changes the whole dynamics of everything.


    I know we could be good together again.

    If it doesn't work out after having another chance then fair enough. It's just that I know I could make her happy and she could be happy with me.

    I am still going to finish my final year of university in my law degree and this will help somewhat in ensuring I have the best possible career options.

    I think I just need to back off and stay even out of her sight. I don't want to be in the same room.

    She has to come to me for me to know she truly wants me back; and even then I would be cautious and talk honestly with her about how things might be.

    I really want to be a great Daddy.

    I am 99% sure that this baby is mine, I will know better when the dates come out. This is not about screwing me for my money when I eventually get a decent paycheck because I wouldn't give them money. I would buy the baby whatever it needs myself not give cash over. So there is no advantage for her to have th ebaby purely to get money from me. It will not work that way, if that's what she maybe has in mind.


    I seriously do love her despite her cheating on me. She is some years younge rbut this is not a problem itself.

    I'm going to be patient abouyt this whole thing. It must cross her mind one day to give it a go with me. When reality kicks in to her.

    I really believe I am a good guy and I want to do what's right, and I just want to be happy.
  • Nov 5, 2007, 11:18 AM
    snuffy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by linds03
    You sound like a great guy and I applaud the fact that you want to be a good daddy to your baby...I'm sure you would be. And guess what? I'm thinking that her HORMONES are playing a part in her reactions to you...keep that in mind. You'll be just fine- I would be shocked if she didn't come back to you. let me know. Take care.


    In my head I know I have to be out of sight of her totally; I canno tmove on though.

    I would feel terrible to find a new girl, and I feel a strong moral obligation to stick around as well as a desire to do so.

    I hope and pray she will miss me and consider trying to be with me again.

    I want to be there for ante natal appointments and scans.

    I'm excited yet so forlorn abou this whole sorry episode. If only I had given her space weeks ago everything would be OK.
  • Nov 13, 2007, 04:11 AM
    snuffy
    UPDATE:

    After totally backing off for a while, she is now talking to me and friendly enough.

    I have stated that I want this baby no matter what. Even if she never wants to be with me again.

    I think that's the best attitude.

    She said I can come to scans :)

    So for now I am much happier. I'm meeting other women. I have great friends who are supportive of me and the situation.

    Would love her to get back with me but I'm bracing myself for that to never happen.

    Let's hope!
  • Dec 12, 2007, 10:59 AM
    snuffy
    My pregnant Ex- getting back? Could we? Should we?
    Ok, Many of you may have read abou my ex.

    To sum up, she dumped me about 8 weeks ago, told me she was pregnant about 6 and a half weeks ago.

    Well, I have kept contact to a minimum, I would have no contact whatsoever if she were not pregnant.

    As she is pregnant I do occasionally call her to see how she is and show that I care at least what she is going through.

    When we broke up she told me she definitely does not want to be with me anymore - she just 'knows' is what she said.

    This was her view, despite being pregnant.

    However she does seem to be at parties that I attend. I am very at ease around her and extremely cool calm and assured around her.

    What is confusing me now is that I am hearing from friends of hers that 'she is really missing me.' This came a week ago after we went to the 12 weeks scan for our baby. This friend asked her 'do you think you and him will ever get back,' aparently she replied she really misses me but hates being horrible and y to me.

    So is it really her that is the problem? She seems to have a problem admitting if she feels for me. And in person she can be blunt and snappy with me. I do not react badly to this at all.

    What should I do, Should I continue the coolness and no contact thing? Or should I ask her whether we can try to work something out, not necessarily right now though.

    I really am confused now. In an ideal world I would love to be with her; but on the other hand I am simply not willing to accept any crap from her and I am not going to sell myself short. In other words she should work for the relationship too, not just me.


    Just an update on how I see her. Yes love her and would like to be with her. But in my mind I can be without her and I can find another woman. This is partly through necessity.

    In short, I am not desperate. But I would like her back.

    how do I proceed?


    What is your advice?


    And what does her saying she 'misses me lots' really mean? I'd be especially interested to hear from women, as you may have more of an idea how women think!! :D

    regards, Snuffy.
  • Dec 12, 2007, 12:41 PM
    charlotte234s
    If you both love each other and want to be together, get back together.


    If not, don't bother. Be there for the baby, obviously, but don't be with her just because she is pregnant, just make sure you provide support emotionally, monetarily if it's your baby, etc. and you let her know you want to be in the babies life, but you two cannot be together.

    The mother and father bond is different than the boyfriend and girlfriend bond, do what's best for both. You can be a father withought being a boyfriend, or you can be both if you think that's what's best.
  • Dec 12, 2007, 05:03 PM
    talaniman
    Don't pin your star on the words of friends, as her action don't match what you have been told, so do as your doing and take care of your child, and work with her as far as that goes, but a relationship?? She is very clear on that. Forget it. Maybe all she wanted was a baby, who knows? Either way I would get a life without her.
  • Dec 12, 2007, 06:46 PM
    ISneezeFunny
    I somewhat agree with Charlotte, but from my point of view... she could just be missing you due to loneliness. In that case, do you really want to be there for a little bit until she tells you that she just "knows" again? Granted, there's no real way of finding out if she's for real or not, that's entirely your decision. Think about it clearly. But def, you can be a father without being a boyfriend. Do take care of your responsibilities.
  • Dec 16, 2007, 02:55 PM
    snuffy
    An update; I saw her last night at a mutual friend's house. I had called her in the day to see how she is and ho wthe pregnancy is going. All was friendly and amicable. I said that I was going over to this house for a couple of drinks and asked if she wanted to go and she said yes.

    So, we're at this house. I was all normal and cool. Asked how how she was and she was lke 'yeh I'm ok' but her demeanour was somewhat short and sharp.

    Her Step mother and younger sister were there too. They were absolutely fine with me.

    I had been thinking about what I was told the week before about her saying that she really misses me, so I kind of expected her to be a little warmer with me.

    Anyway, her step mum made a comment jokingly about me being 'almost family' (obviously due to the pregnancy) and the ex then made a very snide remark along the lines of 'pffft he's no part of my family! '

    The cattiness of the remark really pissed me off and it was designed to be hurtful I think. She could not see I was affected by it as I ignored it, but I am affected by it to a degree.

    What I cannot understand is why she would be so cold, distant and making waspish remarks about me. It is as though she resents me, and I simply do not understand why. There's no reason for this. Well nothing I have done anyway.


    I have been getting on with my life, I seldom bother her or call her (maybe once a week if that) and I talk on msn if she initiates a conversation. So I have not been begging for her back or anything like that. I have dealt with the unfortunate situation very well.


    So it is really bizaree why she feel sth eneed to regularly make remarks which are intended to make me feel unhappy. I am trying to be happy and accept the situation. So what the hell is wrong with her??


    I thought that at the very least she would be friendly but I can assure you that in person at least, she seems unfriendly and positively hostile around me.



    Could she be jealous that I am getting on with life and 'appear' happy while she is seemingly unhappy (with what I do not know).


    In any case, I (foolishly perhaps) sent her a text later that night saying .'I miss you and wish that we could work something out.xx'


    Can anybody speculate as to what this behaviour from her is set out to achieve? To Drive me away? To Piss me off? To drag me to unhappiness?


    I would take her back if she wanted it, and if she was willing to put in equal effort.

    I just can't see it now, and I worry a lot. I worry that she is going to play games with me regardingthe baby that is born in June - which would be very sad indeed.


    Yours confused and disillusioned.

    Snuffy.
  • Dec 16, 2007, 06:28 PM
    talaniman
    Hi Snuffy, Understand that she is pregnant, and her body is carrying a human life, and her hormones and emotions are raging, as she is preparing to bring life into the world. Don't take her rages personally, as she goes through this process, just love and support her the best you can. Educate yourself through books and talking to older females about what goes on in females that are pregnant. This time is about her, so put your feelings aside and help her any way you can.
  • Dec 27, 2007, 08:36 PM
    snuffy
    Update: I saw her one week ago at a local pub. She was drinking a little; unfortunately there is nothing I can do abou this as it is he rbody and I have no say in it. I'd obviously prefer she did not drink and put her pregnancy at risk.

    Anyhow, she was nice to me, friendly enough. So clearly I'm getting mixed signals.

    Anyway, I decided I would write her a letter and my intentions are good. Those intentions are that we are at minimum, on friendly terms when the baby is born so that I can see the baby and have no trouble. Though as you know, I would also love to give the relationship a go. Bear in mind, however, that I am OK if she still doesn't want the relationship. Anyhow, here is the letter. I posted it on christmas eve. Do tell me what you think:


    "Hi *****,

    I hope everything is all right with you; I just wanted to write a letter to you to say a few things that are on my mind and because I’ve been thinking about you a lot. I miss you an awful lot; much more than I realised I would do.
    I sometimes just wish I could just sit and have a drink with you and have a laugh especially like we used to when we started meeting up this year. I was so happy the times when I saw you; it was exciting and good fun being around you. I can remember when I had to go back to university it would drive me mad not being able to see you. I told you that you had some kind of magical hold on me; I guess I just really liked being with you and found you to be great to be around. You could make me feel so good and excited to see you.

    Back in June I was the happiest I’d been for a long time and everything was going amazingly, and I used to wake up with a spring in my step knowing that I was going out with a gorgeous and amazing girl. Everything was just about having a good time and a laugh and that. I think things started to go wrong for me in general when I had that injury and ended up in hospital. It changed a lot of things in my life, it stopped me doing exams and stopped me being able to work for weeks. I realise I was really down and lost my confidence and did not see it at that time. Other people noticed me being less happy with everything and it is true, I was such an idiot a lot of the time then. I ended up being stupidly insecure, clingy and jealous and it’s not a good thing. I was totally wrong. I make no excuses for being like that. I made the biggest mistake of my life acting like that and I am sorry for ever making you feel bad. I do know, though, that I have learned from it and I wouldn’t be like that with anyone ever again.

    I know that you made the choice to not to be with me anymore and I totally understand why as I was a pain to be around, and I was destroying the good relationship we had by my being jealous and just acting like a total prat. It gave me a big wake up call and a chance to see how my behaviour was making you feel. I got my confidence back and am more like the person I was a year ago. You know that I wish that we could sort something out one day in the future, but I respect how you feel and well if it’s still not what you want then that’s fair enough. It is great to just be a good friend if that’s all it will be, and be a great dad to our baby when it comes. You know I will always be there for support and will always love the baby, as I know that you will be a great loving Mum too. After I finished university I wanted to build some sort of future together, but that’s just a dream right now and if that can’t happen then we can still make the most of it as parents. I really meant it when I said how much I loved you; and I still do.

    Anyway, I’ve said what I wanted to say to you and I hope that you are doing well and that the pregnancy is going OK. You know that I am ALWAYS there if you ever want me. I hope you have a really happy Christmas and a happy new year. Missing you.

    Love from [Snuffy] x x x"
  • Dec 27, 2007, 10:02 PM
    George_1950
    I see words and words about how you feel and what you would like to happen. This is what you said she either says or does: "So it is really bizarre why she feels the need to regularly make remarks which are intended to make me feel unhappy. I am trying to be happy and accept the situation. So what the hell is wrong with her???? I thought that at the very least she would be friendly but I can assure you that in person at least, she seems unfriendly and positively hostile around me."

    Other than the baby, it seems she has moved on. It takes two to maintain a relationship and she appears unwilling. She is not worried about your feelings, so perhaps you should not be concerned about hers.
  • Dec 27, 2007, 10:10 PM
    s_cianci
    Quote:

    However she does seem to be at parties that I attend.
    You mean she's drinking while pregnant?
    Quote:

    Should I continue the coolness and no contact thing?
    I would.
    Quote:

    but on the other hand I am simply not willing to accept any crap from her and I am not going to sell myself short
    Nope. Definitely don't take any crap from her and don't sell yourself short.
    Quote:

    But in my mind I can be without her and I can find another woman.
    Absolutely. No reason to think otherwise. In short, you do what is right for you and don't allow yourself to be made to feel guilty by her or anyone else. She dumped you to begin with so now you have every right not to take her back. She isn't your child, the baby inside of her (presumably) is. Of course you'll get a DNA test after the birth just to make sure.
  • Dec 27, 2007, 10:15 PM
    s_cianci
    Quote:

    Could she be jealous that I am getting on with life and 'appear' happy while she is seemingly unhappy (with what I do not know).
    I think this is probably the most likely explanation. So just go right on getting on with life and being (not just appearing) happy. If that ignites her fuse all the more then you have your answer.
  • Dec 28, 2007, 05:55 AM
    snuffy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by George_1950
    I see words and words about how you feel and what you would like to happen. This is what you said she either says or does: "So it is really bizarre why she feels the need to regularly make remarks which are intended to make me feel unhappy. I am trying to be happy and accept the situation. So what the hell is wrong with her???? I thought that at the very least she would be friendly but I can assure you that in person at least, she seems unfriendly and positively hostile around me."

    Other than the baby, it seems she has moved on. It takes two to maintain a relationship and she appears unwilling. She is not worried about your feelings, so perhaps you should not be concerned about hers.


    HER loss, then.
  • Dec 28, 2007, 11:48 AM
    lavenderly
    A woman is confusing. A woman who just broke up is doubly confusing. A woman who just broke up and is carrying a baby is triply (if there is such word) confusing.

    She cannot make up her mind yet on what to do with this situation. You have been doing well by staying by her side. But do not press for more answers from her about her feelings, just for the time being, until her child is born.

    Why is she making nasty remarks and pissing u off?

    Take for instance, when u were still a kid, u were in bad mood and told your mum to get out of your life forever. Mum remained cool and still check on u once in a while, especially on your wound that u got when u fell off the bike. U miss your mum but u cannot tell her that on her face. When she asks whether u miss her, are u going to say "yeah...i miss u and im sorry i said what i said" or would u say "whatever...stay out of my room!"?

    You may apologize if u really love your mum. But in your girl's situation, she is UNCERTAIN whether she loves u or she wants to love u for her child's sake. She is also facing raging hormones and perhaps external advice that confuse her. So she takes it out on you by making sacrcastic comments.

    If you are expecting her to apologize and stop the crap you are getting, there is rare chance. At this moment, YOU will have to do all the work in the relationship. She is after all, PREGNANT. However, your efforts might pay off in the long run.

    If she treats u with spite and yet misses u (if her friend is trustworthy), you already play a major role in her life. For once, try to be more humble and accept her "test" of your patience. Imagine... if your mum keeps coming back to u despite your yells at her to stay away, u will one day be touched.

    Good luck =)
  • Dec 28, 2007, 12:45 PM
    mafiaangel180
    Ok, so she broke up with you 8 weeks ago, and after that she said she was pregnant? Oh man, I hate to be the insensitive one in the bunch, but are you sure she's pregnant and it isn't some way of holding on to you? And if she is pregnant, this news DID come after your break up so I would recommend getting a dna test. I'm not saying you shouldn't believe her or whatever. But when a person is dumped, there is all this doubt in the air as it is. And some cold hard facts when it comes to something this big would be nice. I'm only saying this so you can watch out for numero uno.

    *bracing myself*
  • Dec 28, 2007, 02:43 PM
    snuffy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mafiaangel180
    Ok, so she broke up with you 8 weeks ago, and after that she said she was pregnant? Oh man, I hate to be the insensitive one in the bunch, but are you sure she's pregnant and it isn't some way of holding on to you? And if she is pregnant, this news DID come after your break up so I would recommend getting a dna test. I'm not saying you shouldn't believe her or whatever. But when a person is dumped, there is all this doubt in the air as it is. And some cold hard facts when it comes to something this big would be nice. I'm only saying this so you can watch out for numero uno.

    *bracing myself*

    Definitely pregnant. I've been to the scan!
  • Jan 13, 2008, 07:08 AM
    snuffy
    Pregnant ex's behaviour...
    It's getting worse and more bizarre.

    I know the whole NC thing with an ex is important, but in my circumstances I cannot just do that- as much as I would like to. For she is pregnant so I have to be there to some degree to show my support, and because I am a good-natured person.


    Now, I think she is hitting the self-destruct button and I am massively concerned. Let's remember she finished with me and she knew I was gutted about the whole thing. Then finding out she was pregnant, I took it well and thouht that I have to just make the most of the sitiuation. A pregnant ex who steadfastly states that she does not want to be with me at all. (quite why, she never has said.)

    So, Friday evening, I went for a drink with a female friend (who I have known for 15 years) at a different bar. We are strictly friends and I'm quite clear on that. Anyway, my friends and my ex included, knew I was going out for a drink with this friend. They, on the other hand, were going to a local bar.

    I got text messages FROM THE EX and from my friends who were in the same bar asking me if me and my female friend were coming over to the bar that they were in. I said I'll come on my own because I don't wan there to b any trouble with me coming in with a different girl. They insisted it was OK and suggested I come down to the pub. They promised it would be OK.


    Anyway, so around midnight I came with the female friend to the bar, and intent on having a quiet drink and just socialise like a mature adult.

    To my absolut ehorror, the pregnant ex was absolutely full-on drunk; had been heavily drinking and behaving erratically.

    She knew fine well that this female friend was just a friend. Anyway, th ex took it upon herself to sit with a random guy from the bar (which is fine with me), but she was laughing out loud, exxagerating how great a time she was having and attention-whoring. It looked clear to me that she was trying to make me jealous at her having a good time with this other chap.

    The truth of the matter is, she looked pathetic and desperate to make me jealous. I didn't feel an ounce of jealousy, I rather felt pity at her being so loud and erratic. Quite a number of my friends and others in the bar thought she was behaving terribly in front of me.

    In any case I could sense a bad atmosphere brewing and decided that I would get up and leave the situation and keep my cool.

    A couple of people (and I didn't tell them to do this) said to her that her heavy drinking was stupid and that she shouldn't be bhaving so disrespectfully around the father to be of her child. I said 'leave it'.

    Then the guy who was sat with my ex said "I'm the babys daddy" which I ignored. My ex laughed and thought this was hilarious. So a friend of mine said 'it wouldn't surprise me if he was the father." At this point I decided I am definitely leaving the bar.

    At this point my ex pushed me in the face quite violently (despite me being quiet, and not saying a word) then said to me "I swear to f**king god that you are no seeing thi sbaby when it is born." I still didn't react to her and just walked out and left the place.


    It transpired that after I left people were saying to her that she wa sout of order for saying that to me when I hadn't done anything to deserve it, an dthey were telling her that also she should not be drinking so heavily when 18 weeks pregnant and that she shouldn't be behaving like that with a new guy in front of me.

    The ex proceeded to hit two of the girls (including my female friend, who, incidentally, didn't want to leave when I did).

    Then she got kicked out by the landlord of the bar.


    So, why on earth is she acting this way, and why is she showing such lack of respect to me? I do not understand it.


    Also, at about 3am she sent me a text message asking me to 'please ring her' so she could 'explain what went off.' Which is unlike her. I've never known her feel the need to explain herself to me. Why would she do this too?



    I'm totally and utterly freaked out and cannot understan dher behavioru whatsoever. I'm terribly oncerned about her drinking, as the other people sitting in the bar were too...



    Please advise. What should I do. Totally ignore her now for a few months or what??



    Thanks, snuffy.
  • Jan 13, 2008, 07:23 AM
    KalFour
    Hi Snuffy,
    Wow... And she said she doesn't want you to see the baby? If the poor kid manages to avoid getting foetal alcohol syndrome, it's still going to have a very temperamental mother to deal with as well as being in a single parent family.
    I can't say I have any idea why she's behaving like this. I imagine she's pretty confused and upset by her situation. It doesn't justify what she said or did, but it's still best to try to be patient with her.
    If you want to be involved in the child's life, best to try to keep things honest and polite with you and your ex, but it probably wouldn't hurt to distance yourself from her a little.
    Good luck,
    Kal
  • Jan 13, 2008, 09:01 AM
    simoneaugie
    Snuffy,

    She was drunk. Alcohol causes emotion to rise above intellect. Her behavior and words were probably linked to real feelings she has. Not that you can do anything about it. Also, her body is hers. If she wants the baby to drink along with her, what can you do?

    Please don't kick yourself or turn into a pretzel trying to figure it out. When she is sober, ask if she is willing to do a paternity test. If the baby is yours, then you need to decide what steps to take next. Her behavior indicates that she will be a poor mother. Are you willing to take full responsibility for the child?

    Simone
  • Jan 13, 2008, 02:44 PM
    talaniman
    What's wrong with this picture. You accept an invitation to socialise at a bar you KNOW your prenant ex is at. Not a good decision. Don't let the actions of drunks color your common sense. And trying to be Mr. Nice guy in light of what you have already gone through, not a very good decision. Stay away from this fruitcake until the child is born, you know its yours, and send a child support check every month, and let the courts give you joint custody, and liberal visitations. You have been try to force her to accept your help and support, a long time and she has rebuffed you and been adament about you coming no where near her. She's a nut, leave her alone.
  • Jan 14, 2008, 07:21 AM
    snuffy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman
    Whats wrong with this picture. You accept an invitation to socialise at a bar you KNOW your prenant ex is at. Not a good decision. Don't let the actions of drunks color your common sense. And trying to be Mr. Nice guy in light of what you have already gone thru, not a very good decision. Stay away from this fruitcake until the child is born, you know its yours, and send a child support check every month, and let the courts give you joint custody, and liberal visitations. You have been try to force her to accept your help and support, a long time and she has rebuffed you and been adament about you coming no where near her. She's a nut, leave her alone.

    She is adamant I don't come near her? YET, she appears at every party I attend, and asks me if I'm coming to the pub where she is. Something is anomalous here.

    Her behaviour is 'nutty' as you say and seems irrational. I wish I coul dunderstand why she does what she does. Why feel the need to give me hassle. I don't ask her to join me out. I don't ask her to come to parties that I attend; it's her doing the asking.


    She's pregnant - but what do you suggest? Abandon her entirely until shortly before birth?

    And should I just sit and let her drink stupidly. It's my baby too.
  • Jan 14, 2008, 05:29 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Snuffy, She is adamant I don't come near her? YET, she appears at every party I attend, and asks me if I'm coming to the pub where she is. Something is anomalous here.
    Either you have mutual friends, which your last post says you do, or she is keeping an eye on you.
    Quote:

    Her behaviour is 'nutty' as you say and seems irrational. I wish I coul dunderstand why she does what she does. Why feel the need to give me hassle. I don't ask her to join me out. I don't ask her to come to parties that I attend; it's her doing the asking.
    Of course you never thought to avoid her, and stay out of trouble, she is a nut, a pregnant nut.

    Quote:

    She's pregnant - but what do you suggest? Abandon her entirely until shortly before birth?
    YES!!!! keep your distance until the child is born.
    Quote:

    And should I just sit and let her drink stupidly. It's my baby too.
    To date you have done nothing to stop her, or threatened to call social services, so you may as well leave her alone, unless your prepared to take action. If you aren't at the bar she may not be either, but she is a nut, so no telling.
  • Jan 24, 2008, 04:56 PM
    snuffy
    Yes - the pregnant ex girlfriend. My current thoughts.
    Hey all; most of you are probably familiar with my sordid story with the pregnant ex girlfriend.


    So, I've been thinking: I know these are things that have been suggested to me before but ah well, I'm trying to add up things in my head:

    (1) Ok - so she (as far as I know) still does not want to be with me. Fair enough; I understand why and how relationships end, and what role I may have played. Fair enough. I realise that once it's over, it's over. I can live with that quite happily.

    (2) she's pregnant, tells me it is mine, in fact the other week she repeatedly told me it wa smine, she was drunk mind. The drunkenness may explain the repetition, or it could be that she doesn't know and is trying to convince me and hence herself too.

    (3) I am grappling with the idea that the baby really is not mine - this is for a few reasons (I'm just guessing here because I don't know for sure.): Here is why:

    (a) She has been absolutely adamant that she does not want to be with me. Totally dead against it, not even a 1% chance of even trying as far as I can gather. This in itself I find odd.

    (b) I have accepted this and gave her every impression that I can deal with this and get on with her in a friendly way for the sake of the baby. However, as recent previous events demonstrate; she cannot be friendly with me at all, I am still getting a brick wall, even though I do not ever bring up our relationship. I get nastiness even from just saying hi how are you.

    (c) She cheated before with me, at least once that I know of. And lied coldly about it, and would easily do it again. Showed no remorse whatever for doing it.

    (d)
    Is the brick wall she is putting up and the why behaviour there to keep me at a distance for when the does hit the fan.?


    (3) she has already started using the baby as a weapon against me. I have already been threatened that I will not see it after it is born. Again she was drunk when she said it, but I did not even provoke that myself. Furthermore, even if I was to say something nasty back to her, it never justifies using the baby as leverage.

    (4) The heavy drinking she is doing while carrying a babytotally eradicates any question in my mind of her being worth getting back. She is total and utter trash for doing this. Utterly selfish behaviour on her part. I have brought it up in a non judgemental way and she still thinks it is OK. Its her body though so her choice to risk the baby.

    (5) I really, really am failing to comprehend why on arth I put up with her crap for so long when I was with her. I could and should have avoided all of this bulls**t before it happened and involved a new life (baby).


    (6) The crappy behaviour and attitude to me: Why oh why oh why if you have even a modicum of decency would you treat another human being so disrespectfully. Especially one who is the putative father of your unborn baby, and one who has done the decent thing and stood by you despite being dumped and treated like all the time. I really really do not deserve this.


    IT IS NOT THE FACT that she no longer wishes to be in a relationship with me that hurts me profoundly; it really isn't; I got over that part an drespect her wish to be free and to go out with who she likes. It is the continual hurtful way she is towards me which is giving me hell. I am supposedly to be a daddy soon, but I have to deal with this horrible human being for the rest of my life, and I really cannot be doing with her and her awful ways.


    I WILL be seeking a dna test after birth; because I want to know that I am fighting for a being a guardian, protector and loving parent to my own kid, not someone else's. And as unfortunate as it may sound (it is certainly not sour grapes) but all the above says to me that she knows I may not be the father of this baby but can't tell me yet (if she will ever do so at all).



    Lastly, the answer to the next part may be obvious, but why can I not speak to/be friends with , or for that matter date other women without her getting in a strop about it? Is it really jealousy or the proverbial DOG IN A MANGER situation??


    If she doesn't want me then why can't I be allowed move on. I would understand
    If it was me who dumped her; but since it is her who dumped me then it makes no sense whatsoever to me. I am not even jealous of her seeing there men. If she wants to then its her prerogative...


    As I say - here is much much more to this whole nightmare situation that meets the eye.

    My intution tells me there is something major that I do not yet know, but will come ou eventually. Watch thi sspace.


    If anyone can shed some light or speculate what this whole crap is all about then please pass on your thoughts..

    SNUFFY.
  • Jan 24, 2008, 06:09 PM
    twinkiedooter
    I read back on some of your questions to get some kind of handle on your situation.

    I have a few questions for you... ok? How do you know she is pregnant? If she is, then just how far along is she?

    The fact she is drunk so much of the time is not good for a fetus. That child is a good candidate for fetal alcohol deformities. Does this girl even know about the consequences she is literally giving to her unborn child?

    Have you talked to her parents about you, she and the unborn child at all?

    Don't understand her except it shouts GAME PLAYER big timein big neon signs to me.
  • Jan 24, 2008, 06:46 PM
    friend4u178
    Snuffy
    Get the DNA tests and if its yours you have along road ahead because you have a responsibility to do your part , and if it is yours you will have rights to see the child. I suggest you go on the "Family Law" forum , there are people there who know the in's and out's of your rights far better than me.

    If not yours run for the hills. This girl sounds nothing but trouble to me.

    As far as you not being allowed to see other people that's just BS , don't let her decide that , you should be able to do as you please. She dumped you so not her choice.
  • Jan 24, 2008, 09:15 PM
    ampersandra
    Like what twinkiedooter has said, I would be wary about your ex making claims about being pregnant.

    Beyond this, how is she harassing you? Isn't there any way for you to minimize contact with her? It honestly doesn't seem necessary to continue much communication with her until you can see for sure that there's a bulge in her belly and/or the baby is born so that you can do the DNA test.

    The reason I say this is because YOU ARE LETTING HER AFFECT YOU TOO MUCH. Until everything can be proven, why should you even care about her insults against you? Why should you listen to her rant and rave about the people you're dating? I'm sure by now, you've already done your part in trying to convince her to stop drinking for the sake of the baby, etc. You've done what you could. There's no need to bear a larger burden than what you are responsible for and capable of. If she has trouble respecting you, that's her problem.
  • Jan 24, 2008, 10:25 PM
    talaniman
    Part, no, most of the problem is your listening to a crazy drunk. Disappear from her life until the baby is born.
  • Jan 25, 2008, 01:49 AM
    snuffy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ampersandra
    Like what twinkiedooter has said, I would be wary about your ex making claims about being pregnant.

    Beyond this, how is she harassing you? Isn't there any way for you to minimize contact with her? It honestly doesn't seem necessary to continue much communication with her until you can see for sure that there's a bulge in her belly and/or the baby is born so that you can do the DNA test.

    The reason I say this is because YOU ARE LETTING HER AFFECT YOU TOO MUCH. Until everything can be proven, why should you even care about her insults against you? Why should you listen to her rant and rave about the people you're dating? I'm sure by now, you've already done your part in trying to convince her to stop drinking for the sake of the baby, etc. You've done what you could. There's no need to bear a larger burden than what you are responsible for and capable of. If she has trouble respecting you, that's her problem.


    She is definitely pregant; I have been to the 12 week scan.
    Today is the 20 week one. I'm not going though as she wants her Mom there instead. I've asked for a picture.

    I know I'm letting her affect me; it's because I'm worried about the baby, and she still has a hold on me because of the baby.

    Yes she is bad bad news. But I can't just bail.
  • Jan 25, 2008, 08:14 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    yes she is bad bad news. But I can't just bail.
    Don't look at it as bailing, see it as coping the best way you can, by protecting yourself, and staying healthy for what is to come.
  • Jan 25, 2008, 08:31 AM
    HistorianChick
    Mornin, Snuffy...

    Well, I've followed your sordid story over the last posts and I must say that your ex is certainly a piece of work.

    I think your answer as to why she "won't allow you to move on" is that she may be one of those girls that demands "If I can't/won't/don't have you NO ONE else will!" I'm sorry that you've had to find this out the hard way... you shouldn't have to deal with this.

    As to the drinking and the baby... I wish I could tell you what to do to get her to stop endangering the life of this unborn innocent. We all know that drinking while pregnant is one of the worst things to do... Is there any way, since you are the proclaimed father, that you can get some kind of police order or court order for her? (I'm totally clueless as to this whole matter, but there has to be SOMETHING that you can do!)

    I'm sorry, snuffy, you're handling this whole situation with stellar grace and compassion. Remember that you're better off without her... a fact I'm sure that you have firmly imprinted upon your mind.

    Hope it gets better for you. Good luck! :)
  • Jan 25, 2008, 10:01 AM
    ampersandra
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snuffy
    She is definitely pregant; I have been to the 12 week scan.
    Today is the 20 week one. I'm not going though as she wants her Mom there instead. I've asked for a picture.

    I know I'm letting her affect me; it's cos i'm worried bout the baby, and she still has a hold on me cos of the baby.

    yes she is bad bad news. But I can't just bail.

    That's exactly the point. It's good that you're worrying about the baby, but make a differentiation between HER and THE BABY. It's not bailing out. Stop thinking that you are. What I'm suggesting is that you try to minimize contact with her until the results come out. You've done your part by asking her not to drink so much. What more can you REALLy do anyway? Are you going to force the bottle out of her hands?

    I repeat: There's no need to bear a larger burden than what you are responsible for and capable of.
  • Jan 25, 2008, 10:20 AM
    mafiaangel180
    Ok so yeah the law basically states that you can't deny a pregnant woman a drink. But drinking binges are another story, can't you report her to (or at least call) child services and see what they have to say about that? If it helps prevent a sick baby that is what I would do. Then I would disappear until the kid is born, and have that DNA test.
  • Jan 27, 2008, 08:40 AM
    snuffy
    I have followed the advice of Talaniman: A further update:

    Last night I was at my friend's house playing Poker (I won too!), and was having a drink with everybody. At round 11pm, predictably the ex girlfriend showed up.

    Within minutes I just got up and left the house without telling anyone. Just walked home 4 miles away. (I enjoyed the walk in all honesty.)

    Afetr an hour she tried calling me numerous times; I ignored the calls. I got a text at 2am asking where I ahd got to. I ignored it.

    Then today about 3 hours ago, I got a text from her asking if 'she has done anything to piss me off. Again, I have not replied and don't intend to.

    I'm doing the right thing aren't I?

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