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  • Jul 27, 2007, 01:23 AM
    mckenzie134
    If you get dumped make sure they feel dumped.
    CAN YOU WIN HER BACK?


    NO action required. It's only her that determines that... the less you do. The more you do. ReallyIf everyone here followed this maybe more would find they do get there ex back!!

    And maybe even more will find out that they won't be coming back a lot more quick than hanging around delaying the inevitavle.

    Confused is a word used a lot in many threads, really the only one confused is you, confusing yourself trying to work out what why or how things went wrong and how could they do this.

    Simple they arnt that into you anymore, but to many people who get dumped just can't understand why and really some times there is no explanation except the dumper does not want you and whatever they said in the past is irrelevant only today counts, and yes they can be upset and I tell you what in many situations if you had of dumped them one day before you got dumped there world would have folded and they would probably be on here. So the best thing to do is walk away straight away and turn you being dumped into them being dumped as well. Put them in your shoes don't let them have a fall bak. Tell them if that's what they want you can't wait!! And definitely don't listen to there crap if you loved me you would wait, reply with " If you loved me you wouldn't need a break!!

    It's that simple!!


    Wish it was though so hard to do this, but it's the correct way, Why wait on someone who needs to think about weather they want to be with you!!

    Makes you look like a loser when you think about it and no one wants to be with someone like that so whaen someone is deciding on you help them out!!

    Don't let them decide your better than that, HEll they arnt the decision maker and as soon as they think you are as soon as someone better comes along they will once again yhave to take a break and make a decision!!

    Never wait NEVER and always let them know everything is fine and you will be OK. Don't EVER CALL!! EVER EVER
  • Jul 27, 2007, 01:29 AM
    rol
    Yeah totally agree,
    Its so hard of course at the beginning to do that but it's the best thing to do,
    Go tell them to pack their bags .lol
  • Jul 27, 2007, 02:19 AM
    gmspitali
    Thank you! I booked my ticket to london to visit my "gf" long before she decided to not want to see me anymore. Why? I don't know what is going in her head I think she is really confused... cough 4 years later. But that is not the point, at least now I know I am not going to go chasing her. I guess if she wants to see me then she will call. She knows I'm there. Right?
  • Jul 27, 2007, 07:17 AM
    talaniman
    Mac, I think you've been told that by a lot of us.
  • Jul 27, 2007, 07:41 AM
    Jiser
    Yeah nc!
  • Jul 27, 2007, 05:24 PM
    Canada_Sweety
    Hmm.... I guess you're right..
  • Jul 27, 2007, 05:26 PM
    GlindaofOz
    Its all true unless someone wants all of you they get none of you. Bravo for spelling it all out mc!
  • Jul 29, 2007, 06:15 PM
    Skell
    Yeah. We know. We've been saying this for a while. Except most of us don't believe in this as a method for winning them back like you do.

    Most of us believe this to be the best method for moving on.

    BIG DIFFERENCE!
  • Jul 29, 2007, 06:55 PM
    mckenzie134
    No skell most want to win bvack that's why they are on here if they didn't want to win back they wouldn't come on here they would just be happy and moved on by now. Probably wouldn't have visited this site if didn't want advice on getting the ex back So this is how or what should be done. Your just bitter no one wants to move on they want to know how to get back in.. So at least I'm helping not like your negative move on attitude.

    If someone wants to move on they don't need advice on that its pretty simple move on!!
  • Jul 29, 2007, 06:56 PM
    Canada_Sweety
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mckenzie134
    No skell most want to win bvack thats why they are on here if they didnt want to win back they wouldnt come on here they would just be happy and moved on by now. Probly wouldnt have visited this site if didnt want advice on getting the ex back So this is how or what should be done. Your just bitter no one wants to move on they want to know how to get back in.. So at least im helping not like your negative move on attitude.

    If someone wants to move on they dont need advice on that its pretty simple move on!!!!

    Damn straight!:D
  • Jul 29, 2007, 07:35 PM
    Skell
    You know what mac? The funny thing is that you are right. Most people do come here looking for ways to win back there ex. Including me. That exactly why I came here.

    It is just that some of us are intelligent enough to listen to other wiser and more experienced people who advise that using tactics and games to in back an ex isn't a good idea.

    Why would you want to win someone back who doesn't really want to be with you anyway. Doesn't sound like love to me. But then again your idea of love seems a helluva lot different to mine and many others.

    Also if the relationship failed the first time why will it work this time? What differences are there between now and then? Most times the people that come here will admit there are no changes. So why should things be different this time?

    Mac I'm not bitter at all. I'm quite happy. Very happy in fact. I got happy by accepting that my relationship was over and that the games and tactics will not bring her back. And if they did why would it work this time. I was able to accept that she didn't want me and move on.

    Something that was hard and struggled with but eventually achieved. I'm not bitter. I just try and help others achieve the same thing.

    We will have to agree to disagree. You're a big fan of tactics and games that as far as I see only keep you on the same round about. You can't get off it and you can't move on despite what you say. Every post you make revolves around what to do manipulate the feelings and thoughts of your ex? IT doesn't focus on your thoughts or feelings at all. Your trying to control what other people think by playing games.

    I on the other hand gave up the games long ago and focused on the one persons feelings and actions that I can control.

    You'll be surprised how much it helped.

    I only encourage others to try it as well because I know how much it helps.

    From the recent threads you have started it doesn't appear that your tactics or games are helping you. Rather they seem to be creating a lot more confusion for you. Good luck with that!
  • Jul 29, 2007, 09:15 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Mckenzie134, No Skell most want to win back that's why they are on here if they didn't want to win back they wouldn't come on here
    You are correct as everyone wants that magic secret to get that ex back.
    Quote:

    They would just be happy and moved on by now.
    Probably wouldn't have visited this site if didn't want advice on getting the ex back
    They came here confused and in shock, just as you did. Not thinking clearly and far from happy.
    Quote:

    So this is how or what should be done.
    As in your case and others the main focus was to get you happy with yourself (healing) and be able to deal with your situation and emotions in a positive constructive way that could benefit yo in the long run. And give up false hope and being stuck on stupid.
    Quote:

    Your just bitter no one wants to move on they want to know how to get back in.. So at least I'm helping not like your negative move on attitude.
    To date you haven't gotten any one ex back, even when you thought you had yours back you found out every thing was different and even more to the point where is she now???
    Quote:

    If someone wants to move on they don't need advice on that its pretty simple move on!!
    If it were that easy I wouldn't have as many posts as I do, and focusing your resentments on Skell is so wrong, since all you have to do is click on his name and see the changes and the progression he has made from desperate to well adjusted, due to him accept ting life and working on healing. You on the other hand are bitter and spreading things you cannot control, and can't even prove it works and you should take that other garbage back to those other sites and stop spreading false hope to those that may not know better. That's why I publicly disagree with you.

    If I'm wrong let me know, but first prove you can get someone elses ex back for more than just coffee and do-nuts.
  • Jul 29, 2007, 09:23 PM
    talaniman
    The truth is 99% of the ones who have come here really don't want the ex back, because they have gotten healthy and see the exes for what they really are, and not blinded with some very strong emotions. No doubt they will have healthy relationships in the future, when they are ready. When you get over the bitterness and hard feelings and drop the games and tricks so will you. And any one who wants to know the truth can just click on your name and see where it all started.
  • Jul 29, 2007, 09:28 PM
    bushg
    Even if you connive and get an ex back what do you have but dishonesty. It will never work. They are called ex's for a reason.
  • Jul 29, 2007, 09:38 PM
    mckenzie134
    I have gotten my ex back once. My method of not contacting did work although it must be in the right situation and done the correct way. By the way I am not with her at the moment. Although I new whet I should be doing its harder to stay in no contract than you think.

    I disgree with yiou and skell thinking people come here to heal. Maybe that is the advice that you give them and in hind sight healing themselves is also giving them the best chance of gettinbg there ex to return, fopr if the are truly willing to heal and work on themselves then they will not be contacting the ex from day one. Which is one of the best methods for getting and ex to return if possible.

    Answering your other question about where is my ex?? Well I didn't quite get her back but that was because I used the wrong method too much chasing pushed her away. I do know what would have probably brang her back and that is what I am trying to help others with although not many will listen as they follow there heart and don't listen to the advice anyhow...
  • Jul 29, 2007, 09:44 PM
    mckenzie134
    Yes they can click on my name and find out my story which I must admit was a lot different from a lot of the cheating hoars many of the guys are with on here. This is one reason I was attempting to get her back because she was not leaving for another guy and well she wanted to be single, so she said. Yet tal you told me she is at that stage in her life 22 where she wants to grow herself well how does this add up when she leaves and then has another boyfriend 3 months later that doesn't mean she wants toi be single??

    Just means I should have kept her more keen and used some more tactics to keep her more interested... Instead of trying to have a happy life with her and make a\us both happy I should have been leeting her worry and keep her on a string. I know a good relationshop re\quires bith of you to be happy but keeping her liking me that bit morer than I like her will normally keep her around and well that's a good thing when they are younfg why not go with what's workingm if I don't have her someone else will.
  • Jul 29, 2007, 09:49 PM
    bushg
    Mckenzie, You should not have to go through playing games with a girl to get her to want you back. She should just love and want you for who you are. My heart breaks for you. I hope that you can move on. I truly can see that you are in pain. But I really believe that there is someone else waiting for you, but if you don't let this go with your ex, how will you ever be able to notice a new girl.
  • Jul 29, 2007, 10:00 PM
    talaniman
    Your still trying to hold on dude, and your bitter, and dissapointed about this breakup. I understand that. You can't make someone keen on you if they aren't. The tactics your talking about is called manipulation to get what you want. Accept she wanted to move on and explore. Accept is the key word here, and all your other arguments are excuses why she isn't there with you. Sorry guy your wrong, and I'm only trying to help you get healthy, so you can find your own happiness.
  • Jul 29, 2007, 10:27 PM
    mckenzie134
    Thanks bush, but I don't believe it was playing games, I was just keeping her interest levels up and did no that she liked me more when missing me. I don't tghink they were games but it was my exs first relationship and was for 3 years I think she was well like she said she didn't know if the love she felt for me was how you should feel about someone you want to be with forever and she should have no doubts.

    Yet confused me with being so close only days before she wanted a break. In a way I think she also lent on me a lot because she was lonely wna ddid not have a lot of friends and was worried what her life would be without me. But when I chased her she became more confidents and maybe met some new people at uni. Helll I am pissed about that feel a bit used. She wanted to contact me so often and then can push me aside so easily of course I'm going to be angrry I could have pushed her aside mayny imes but was not that kind of person. No wonder I'm pissed at her you would be too.. I feel a bit used yet she does not see that. Yet if I had of dumped her it would have been the opposite way around. What gets me worse is when she broke up she told me I still want and need to hear from you and want you in my life then bang she either met some one few months later and said I don't need to now. Now she's says I just didn't like you in the end. Well why didn't she say that when she broke up if she didn't like me then why did she tell me she still wanted to talk and sleep with me?? Thought she didn't like me!!
  • Jul 29, 2007, 10:33 PM
    mckenzie134
    I know tal you are trying to help and I should move on after 5 months. But I'm still angry...
    I realise I had to keep these so called tactics up and I didn't, I know you shouldn't have to but letting her to close to me and making her feel comfortable pushed her the other way. Maybe not good for a relationship but then when it works it works. If I'm not doing it some other guy will be...

    Im upset that she said I need to find myself yet she can so easily date other guys, I'm angry that she contacted me so much while we were together and I was there for her, I'm angry that she said I only contact you each night because I want to hesar you before I go to bed. Why tell me all this and then say I've been thinking this way for a year... If yourve been thinking this way fior a year why would you tell someone all this...

    Was it a lioe cause it didn't sound like alie when she said it
  • Jul 29, 2007, 10:34 PM
    bushg
    She just did not want to be totally alone. She used you and she is not worth your time. Do yourself a favor, let her go. I know it hurts but the longer you hold on to her and her memory of what could have been, the longer you are going to hurt. If you were my son I would be so upset to see you in this situation. You deserve to be happy so for your own sake let her go. I would even change my numbers so that she could not contact me.
  • Jul 29, 2007, 10:36 PM
    bushg
    Mckenzie she was probably confused and at the moment she probably did feel something for you. It was just not strong enough to last.
  • Jul 30, 2007, 12:42 AM
    mckenzie134
    Your rigt pretty much what I got from her. She said" I love you but dont know if its enough forever" Yet many a times she said she only wanted to be with me...

    She had so many opportunities to bewithothersnd I toldherifyoudrather be wit someone else then go, but she alwayssaid I only want you.

    Sehas also saidi was really happy with you when we did things but sometimes wasn't that happy. Well triedtoask her when and shesaqid I dontknow I'm not sure its just how I feel I used to really like you and then I dotnt know I feel different.

    This is where I tryand explain when I liked her less or didn't act as keen she was much more keener on our relationship and tryingto convince me to do everythingas a couple.\

    She has even said I used to likeyou more than you liked me but thatschanging I think you like me more...

    Should have woken upwhen she said that for some stuopid reason sheneededto like me more than shethought I liked her. THATSWHATIVE BEEN TRYINGTO EXPLAIN..
  • Jul 30, 2007, 01:30 AM
    mckenzie134
    I thin I shouldakep and ealise I should have stoppedtalkinglong ago and given myself the chance or findoutearlier than all this confusion but it doesn't help when she sayshow can wegetbacktogetheri we can't even be friends. Itshardto ansewerthis question and I found myself saying why would I wan to be friends but she didntuderstand whicheveray I ent I looked bad. If I said I want more I lookedneedy if I said no friends I klooked meanand upset.
    Maybe I should have said nothingat all and justlet her think we ae frinds but that's not what I wantedswhatwhen she wirns totalk as friends. Andif she really wantedfriends then why after 3 monthsdidshe say I don't needtotalk toyou noew I di earlier but don't now...
  • Jul 30, 2007, 01:40 AM
    rol
    <Maybe I should have said nothingat all and justlet her think we ae frinds but that's not what I wantedswhatwhen >

    Mc, it really does not matter what you did or did not do, it would not have made ANY difference,
    I went through the same analysing and oh if I done this etc etc,
    The fact remains if they really loved us they would not need a break or time alone.

    Its time to wake up from all this misery and put the focus back on yourself.

    Its hard I know , you can read my thread, I was in big denial like you.

    No contact will help you heal and move on.
  • Jul 30, 2007, 01:52 AM
    mckenzie134
    Thanks rol yourprobly right, andi understand if she completely lovedme she wouldn't have needed the break. But I was mad that at one stage she did completely love me how could this change. Even the day beforeshe wanted the break she was so into me!!

    Her reason for the break is she did ot know if the love was enough 3 years and she didn't know?? Yet she couldso easiely say I love you...
    What makes me mad is she still wantedto stay in contact and I knew thiswas bad...

    She should have realised how good we were and she at times but when I gave her everything she wasn't sure howtupidis that
  • Jul 30, 2007, 06:09 AM
    talaniman
    Mac, you probably will not grasp that feelings can change really fast, until it happens to you, and it will. I think that's the hardest part, to understand how someone can change so fast. It happens all the time.
  • Jul 30, 2007, 06:21 AM
    mckenzie134
    Yes but this is what I've been saying for so long tal and is the reason why I cannot say it enough it is he way you make a girl feel inside as to weather she likes you enough and as I have said in the past when you give less and asre more distant feelings towards you are stronger and the girl thinksnshe needs and wants you, yet when you become a nicer gy and are there and don't make her miss you her feelings change, this is why I so often say you need to makethem miss you and wonder to keep them guessing and they remain keen.I had this but well did change my approach and I let her closer to me and she went the other way and said she doesn't feel the same all because I was mpre loving...
  • Jul 30, 2007, 06:23 AM
    mckenzie134
    Giing her more love pushed her away when she thought she had me she decided she didn't like me as mch when she couldn't haveme always she kept wanting to have and see me.. how's tha for a girl, so what my supposed to do weelll next time I won't be leting any girl get to close because look what happened here
  • Jul 30, 2007, 06:55 AM
    hair2007
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mckenzie134
    giing her more love pushed her away when she thought she had me she decided she didnt like me as mch when she couldnt haveme always she kept wanting to have and see me.. hows tha for a girl, so what my supposed to do weelll next time i wont be leting any girl get to close because look what happened here


    I totally agree with u. only I'm a girl, and it seemed like the more I gave whether material or love, or just being there through good and bad, its like it turned him off!!
    I'm a little scared now to, to love someone again, it seems like they want you more when they can't totally have u. or you treat them like crap. If that's what goes on when you care for someone then I'm happier alone.
    Anyway, I don't think it matters if it's a girl or guy or even age, its just who the person is and how they feel about you personaly, I guess.
  • Jul 30, 2007, 08:54 AM
    rol
    <but I was mad that at one stage she did completely love me how could this change. Even the day beforeshe wanted the break she was so into me!!
    >

    Yeah that's what I found incredibly hard to understand also, how someone could propose marriage and then 2 months later change his mind.

    I think that's why we are left in denial for a long long time bnecasue the shock comes from nowhere.

    Don't worry , you will get through it, once you get ou of that denial phase and into anger there is no turning back.
  • Jul 30, 2007, 09:29 AM
    SnaveLeber
    Very good. Wish you could work on your punctuation because the flow was difficult to read... but very good nonetheless.
  • Jul 30, 2007, 04:16 PM
    Skell
    Hey Mac. I can see your pain and anger mate. I really can. And I sympathise with you more than you think.

    Ive told you before that I came here exactly like you. I was sad, angry and wanted my ex back so much. I wanted to know the magic games and tactics to use to get her back. And for a while there I was convinced like you are that these games and tactics would work. I tried them myself. I even met her for coffee a few months after we broke up as part of this elaborate plan that was hatched for me. In the end it only led to more pain and confusion. I was naïve and silly to think that they would work. And all I am trying to do is help you to see the same thing. Nothing more.

    I agree with a lot of the things you say. It is important not to let someone in too much too soon. You should never go so fast as to give your heart to someone too soon. Of course you must be guarded and go slow. Be unavailable sometimes, have your own life, break dates if you have to etc. I agree with that.

    But I think the difference between us is that I don't so much see them as games and tactics. I see it as having a healthy and balanced life and relationship. You should have other things to do sometimes. You should still do things with your mates. Go to the pub with your mates on the same nights as you did before you met. Don't change your life to suit your new partner. That isn't a tactic. That is just having balance in your life.

    I hope you understand what I'm getting at. I don't disagree with your advice so much. Just sometimes the motives behind it.

    I was more like you 12 months ago than you probably think. Trust me!
  • Jul 30, 2007, 04:30 PM
    Canada_Sweety
    Good advice:)
  • Jul 30, 2007, 04:45 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    I was more like you 12 months ago than you probably think. Trust me!
    You, Chuff and Geoff, and a few others kept a lot of us busy, but has it been a year??
  • Jul 30, 2007, 04:49 PM
    Skell
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman
    You, Chuff and Geoff, and a few others kept a lot of us busy, but has it been a year?????

    It's a privilege to be mentioned in such esteemed company! :)
  • Jul 30, 2007, 10:58 PM
    mckenzie134
    Yes skell I understand very much what you are saying and yes I did have my Friday night with mates and I suppose afet 3 years I started to drop that off a bit and started to spend Friday night with my girlfriend. It wasn't that I like her more or anything I liked her the same since I met her it is just that she started to work more and well if I wanted to see her I had to sought of make time.

    When I think about it I did see her more but come on 3 years and I started to see her more and then she is no longer feeling it emotionally and this is where I get mad I give her more time an dthis happens, she's unsure, yet I don't even think this was the problem I kept my distance I just believe the problem was she new she had to make a choice and well maybe I did see her too often. She worked after uni Monday and tues night then suppose she woould want to see me wed fri sat sun only at night though. Maybe too much
  • Jul 31, 2007, 04:18 AM
    hair2007
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mckenzie134
    yes skell i understand very much what you are saying and yes i did have my friday night with mates and i suppose afet 3 years i started to drop that off a bit and started to spend friday night with my girlfriend. It wasnt that i like her more or anything i liked her the same since i met her it is just that she started to work more and well if i wanted to see her i had to sought of make time.

    When i think about it i did see her more but come on 3 years and i started to see her more and then she is no longer feeling it emotionally and this is where i get mad i give her more time an dthis happens, shes unsure, yet i dont even think this was the problem i kept my distance i just believe the problem was she new she had to make a choice and well maybe i did see her too often. She worked after uni monday and tues night then suppose she woould want to see me wed fri sat sun only at night though. maybe to much

    Its all nomal what u say and did.. after 3 yrs with someone it shouldn't matter when u see each other the only thing that changes things is the person who has a change of heart!! then all this kaos happens cause of them, otherwise things would be smooth...
  • Jul 31, 2007, 04:42 AM
    mckenzie134
    Thanks hair that's right but a chage of heart after three years and in one day everything qwas fine in the afternoon she invited me over then it all changed she wants a break thatnight. Then she keeps coming over crying . I kept contaxcting which was a mistake and then she wants to stay in contact for a while then says she's fine and doesn't need to now, maybe she got another guy which was probably the case although she doesnthave a boyfriend but i think she actually just likes guys chasing her and once that started to happen she no longer need to talk to me. I was jujst upset that she kept saying she needed to hear from me and no what was goingon in my life and i didn't think this was right but she would say im not stringing you alonmg i just need time but don't get your hopes up. So i said well we can't talk and she said but i still want to know what's going onn your life. That was for like2 onths then she just said i don't ned to know now im feeling fine not seeing you, this was a kick in the ace all i was being was nice. Then to adventually tell me i just didn't like you in the end. Would have been easier if she told me thatin the first place.

    What i have realised is she did want a break didn't want to hutrt me felt guilty wanted to keep me there cause she new in a way she still wanted and missed me and might be making amistajke but as soon as she felt fine evrything was great and she turned selfish yet wanted me there for her when she needed me cause i realised if she was happy then hings wrere fine and thought well we have ben together for a while we should stilll be able to talk. She told me we are going through a transition period until we both meet someone else. So she needed me there for support and i was like a loser... she even sleptwith me after a month and said she felt so great i was there but we were still on the break. She pretty much usedme and may not have known it but when she felt fine was pretty much like get over it..,. Looking after herself which is what i should have done from the start. But when i said dnt speak she said well that's not tright if we not friemds how could we get back together but if she only wants friemnds then why would we be together which means girls say anything to make themselves better. Cause at the time she was confused and didn't know what she wanted but by having me there she thiught she could decide. There was onlyn one decision she could come up with while i was floating around and the was to get rid of me and in a weay i helped her get over me by being around and then now she makes me feel worse by all of asudden saying i just didn't like you. You know why she couldn't say that in the first week cause she didn't know weather she wanted to lose me or not but when she new she couldn't care lkess about me.
  • Jul 31, 2007, 04:54 AM
    Geoffersonairplane
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman
    You, Chuff and Geoff, and a few others kept a lot of us busy, but has it been a year?????

    It's been 11 months since my breakup and 9 months since I first visited AMHD for advice. Seems like a long time really. When I think back to how I was feeling when it happened and when I first visited this site, it surprises me how time really does make things better. Time and a lot of hard work, a lot of grieving.

    Time is a great healer guys and gals.

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