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  • Jul 5, 2007, 08:44 PM
    clandestine1
    emotional overload
    My ex just recently graduated from the NYPD academy, something he'd been in college for while we were dating. Now, he's out on the streets patrolling, and I know contacting him is a bad idea, so I'd like to write out how I feel here. For one thing, my dad told me the other day that he sees my ex on the train every morning, my ex apparently said hi to him one day, and they talk now whenever they see each other. My ex told my dad about graduating and about patrolling, apparently. His sister, my long-time friend long before I even met my ex, told me recently that it doesn't seem like the girl he's with now is going to be around too long.

    Before I get flamed for that, I understand completely that it can't be about his sister or his parents thinking I'm right for him, it has to come from him. But I was honest enough with her for the first time in 6 months and I admitted that I feel like he found another "me," as in another long-term serious relationship, instead of the brief flings he'd had before. Its hard because living so close, I still see his mom around town and she refers to me as "the one that got away." All of this makes NC hard. We don't talk, haven't in months, yet he talks to my dad, I see his sister almost daily, and now I was invited down to Florida with my friend to see her grandparents...

    I'm happy for my ex that his new girlfriend was there to see him graduate (she invited herself to his grad) and that she's been around for it because I know how much it means to him to do this. That said, I still had that twinge of pain to know that she gets to be there for it and I don't. She gets to be there for him, and for right now... I'm not because I know we both need to do our own thing. It was constantly topic of conversation the whole time we were together, him being a cop, me pursuing my career, what it would be like, the different processes etc. I guess the point is... I can't say a lot of what I want to say to him, and I'm writing it here so that at least its somewhere.

    I'd want him to know how proud I am of him and how much I respect his determination to see this through. I'd want to tell him that he'll wear his badge with honor; that even though he might get hassled or he might have days where he questions why he bothers, he's making something of himself the way I've always known he would. I'd want to tell him to remember why I named that star after him, that its because he's a part of something so much bigger and he's going to find his way home no matter where he is. I'd give him a huge hug and wish him the best of luck in everything he does. I'd tell him I've never stopped believing in him, even though we're apart.

    And for all of these reasons, I can't contact him. Because my heart, though mending, isn't strong enough to risk being shattered again. Because as much as I love him and believe in him, I'm focusing on making my life something as well. So that one day I can have that kind of success, that pride, and I can know that I did it. Because as proud as I am of him, and as much as I pray for him every night that he's safe out there in NYC, I've been getting to know new people, I've been crushing on new guys, and I've been doing my best to make damn sure I continue treading water and fighting not to get in over my head again.

    I wonder if we parted ways to get our lives straightened out so that, if ever given a second chance, we can have it free of the stressors that were there originally. Part of me wonders if he'll ever come back, no matter how many guys I date, no matter how much time goes by... =/
  • Jul 5, 2007, 08:54 PM
    jazzbabie
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by clandestine1
    My ex just recently graduated from the NYPD academy, something he'd been in college for while we were dating. Now, he's out on the streets patrolling, and I know contacting him is a bad idea, so I'd like to write out how I feel here. For one thing, my dad told me the other day that he sees my ex on the train every morning, my ex apparently said hi to him one day, and they talk now whenever they see each other. My ex told my dad about graduating and about patrolling, apparently. His sister, my long-time friend long before I even met my ex, told me recently that it doesn't seem like the girl he's with now is going to be around too long.

    Before I get flamed for that, I understand completely that it can't be about his sister or his parents thinking I'm right for him, it has to come from him. But I was honest enough with her for the first time in 6 months and I admitted that I feel like he found another "me," as in another long-term serious relationship, instead of the brief flings he'd had before. Its hard because living so close, I still see his mom around town and she refers to me as "the one that got away." All of this makes NC hard. We don't talk, haven't in months, yet he talks to my dad, I see his sister almost daily, and now I was invited down to Florida with my friend to see her grandparents....

    I'm happy for my ex that his new girlfriend was there to see him graduate (she invited herself to his grad) and that she's been around for it because I know how much it means to him to do this. That said, I still had that twinge of pain to know that she gets to be there for it and I don't. She gets to be there for him, and for right now...I'm not because I know we both need to do our own thing. It was constantly topic of conversation the whole time we were together, him being a cop, me pursuing my career, what it would be like, the different processes etc. I guess the point is...I can't say a lot of what I want to say to him, and I'm writing it here so that at least its somewhere.

    I'd want him to know how proud I am of him and how much I respect his determination to see this through. I'd want to tell him that he'll wear his badge with honor; that even though he might get hassled or he might have days where he questions why he bothers, he's making something of himself the way I've always known he would. I'd want to tell him to remember why I named that star after him, that its because he's a part of something so much bigger and he's going to find his way home no matter where he is. I'd give him a huge hug and wish him the best of luck in everything he does. I'd tell him I've never stopped believing in him, even though we're apart.

    And for all of these reasons, I can't contact him. Because my heart, though mending, isn't strong enough to risk being shattered again. Because as much as I love him and believe in him, I'm focusing on making my life something as well. So that one day I can have that kind of success, that pride, and I can know that I did it. Because as proud as I am of him, and as much as I pray for him every night that he's safe out there in NYC, I've been getting to know new people, I've been crushing on new guys, and I've been doing my best to make damn sure I continue treading water and fighting not to get in over my head again.

    I wonder if we parted ways to get our lives straightened out so that, if ever given a second chance, we can have it free of the stressors that were there originally. Part of me wonders if he'll ever come back, no matter how many guys I date, no matter how much time goes by...=/

    I'm so glad u shared your story and its great you wrote it out and in a way I feel bad for u just knowing your going threw all that it must be really hard and it is... belive me I know my x lived across the street from me.. we were tog for about 3 to 4 years and after we broke up it was so hard to see him everyday with someone tat he stared dating it was very heart breaking and so hard to go threw.. bt eventually I learned tat in life if u love someone let them go if they come back their yours and if they don't then u deserver something so much better...
    I hope the best for you... good luck and hang in there.. things will get better
    t.c
  • Jul 5, 2007, 08:59 PM
    CaptainRich
    What will be, will be. Time has a way of mending things. Time has a way of easing ones judgments, giving us time for retrospect.

    It seems to me that if the opportunity arose, that you'd be okay with it.

    I like that in a person. I think you'll be fine.
  • Jul 13, 2007, 06:51 PM
    clandestine1
    Its been five months, and I've done a lot of healing, a lot of self-improvement, and I've spent a great amount of time with friends as well as by myself. Work is going well, my personal relationships are solid, and after five months of NC with my ex... I cracked. I didn't contact him, but I did check his/his gf's profile pages to find out if they're still together. They are. Its nothing major, but he's been on my mind way too much lately, and in that sense, its breaking NC.

    I started NC for me, to take back my own sense of self and to start working on who I am without my ex in my life. It was a rollercoaster of emotions, and I was ready to stand on solid ground. If you read my posts prior to this, you'll see that we've been broken up for almost 2 years, so I'm supposed to be ahead of more recent break ups in terms of how far along I am with everything. I'm not. I took a break from dating for a little while, just to focus more on myself, to work and hang out with friends without any stressors like a relationship. I do want a relationship eventually, but I'm not going to lie, part of me looks at my ex having found someone he's been with for a little over 6 months and I wonder what I did wrong.

    This is an odd situation, as his present girlfriend works where I used to, is friends with my ex-co-workers/girls I was friends with, and I hear about them a lot. He talks to my dad on the train going into work, which is nice but its not like he used to go out of his way to talk with my family. It was a bit of a sore spot because I'm close with my family and I'd invite my ex for family dinners and whatnot but he couldn't commit to it. He'd always say, "its not like we're getting married or anything."

    Part of me wonders... if the grass is greener for him. If maybe NC wasn't just about me separating myself from it and learning everything that I have about myself. If maybe it means we will never speak to each other again. I'm not even sure what's best. I know I could never talk to him now because when we used to talk, he'd bring up the girlfriend just to bring her up, even the most generic conversations, shortly after he'd told me he didn't want a relationship. Again, better explained in previous posts. I WANT to better myself. I WANT to find the courage to take that next step and be in a new relationship, show that person and myself that I won't make the same mistakes.

    But even with NC, I still have that pang that's gotten fainter whenever someone (my father, my friends, my best friends father who helped my ex get into his precinct he's in now, his sister who's one of my best friends long before I even knew him) talks about him, or says they don't think he treats his girlfriend now any better than he treated me. It doesn't help, no matter how hard I try not to think about it, no matter how much I tell myself it wasn't all my fault, I can't seem to ever look back on it without blaming myself for why it didn't last. Or why it is he's with her, and not me.
  • Jul 15, 2007, 07:09 PM
    clandestine1
    ... Its been a really crappy day.

    I have days, sometimes long periods, where I don't think about my ex at all. I don't concentrate on missing his friendship, our past relationship, last summer when we became reacquainted, any of it. That day was today...

    ... and then his girlfriend came into the clothing store I work at. She knows where I work, and she tried on some stuff with 2 friends, then, came out and was looking around. Then, I hear from my friend his girlfriend went the store (in another mall) my friend works out, gave her a rude look, then left shortly after, making sure to turn around and look at her again.

    I have LEFT MY EX ALONE. I haven't contacted him since he's been with her, and I don't go to my former workplace because I respect that she works there now and I do not. You can call it coincidence, but coincidence or not, seeing her just brought it all back. She's younger than me by almost 2 years, she seems like a nice girl otherwise, but its like, you got the guy. Just leave me alone. Today just sucked. Plain and simple.
  • Aug 6, 2007, 08:42 PM
    FrOsT_bItE
    Its been five months, and I've done a lot of healing, a lot of self-improvement, and I've spent a great amount of time with friends as well as by myself. Work is going well, my personal relationships are solid, and after five months of NC with my ex... I cracked. I didn't contact him, but I did check his/his gf's profile pages to find out if they're still together. They are. Its nothing major, but he's been on my mind way too much lately, and in that sense, its breaking NC.

    I started NC for me, to take back my own sense of self and to start working on who I am without my ex in my life. It was a rollercoaster of emotions, and I was ready to stand on solid ground. If you read my posts prior to this, you'll see that we've been broken up for almost 2 years, so I'm supposed to be ahead of more recent break ups in terms of how far along I am with everything. I'm not. I took a break from dating for a little while, just to focus more on myself, to work and hang out with friends without any stressors like a relationship. I do want a relationship eventually, but I'm not going to lie, part of me looks at my ex having found someone he's been with for a little over 6 months and I wonder what I did wrong.

    This is an odd situation, as his present girlfriend works where I used to, is friends with my ex-co-workers/girls I was friends with, and I hear about them a lot. He talks to my dad on the train going into work, which is nice but its not like he used to go out of his way to talk with my family. It was a bit of a sore spot because I'm close with my family and I'd invite my ex for family dinners and whatnot but he couldn't commit to it. He'd always say, "its not like we're getting married or anything."

    Part of me wonders... if the grass is greener for him. If maybe NC wasn't just about me separating myself from it and learning everything that I have about myself. If maybe it means we will never speak to each other again. I'm not even sure what's best. I know I could never talk to him now because when we used to talk, he'd bring up the girlfriend just to bring her up, even the most generic conversations, shortly after he'd told me he didn't want a relationship. Again, better explained in previous posts. I WANT to better myself. I WANT to find the courage to take that next step and be in a new relationship, show that person and myself that I won't make the same mistakes.

    But even with NC, I still have that pang that's gotten fainter whenever someone (my father, my friends, my best friends father who helped my ex get into his precinct he's in now, his sister who's one of my best friends long before I even knew him) talks about him, or says they don't think he treats his girlfriend now any better than he treated me. It doesn't help, no matter how hard I try not to think about it, no matter how much I tell myself it wasn't all my fault, I can't seem to ever look back on it without blaming myself for why it didn't last. Or why it is he's with her, and not me.
  • Aug 13, 2007, 07:45 PM
    clandestine1
    How do your forgive yourself?
    I've posted in the past about my relationship, anger, sadness, even hope. I'm not sure how long its been since my last post, but its been 6 months of NC and I'm having difficulty with forgiving myself. Unlike a lot of people, I don't just look at my ex and say, "He was wrong." I look at a situation and say, its 50/50 if he was wrong, I was wrong, too. My question for those here at ENA is how do you forgive yourself? How do you stop wincing with regret when you think of things you said or did that were hurtful or impulsive? I know that I loved my ex, I know that I did all that I could while in the relationship and months after we'd broken up to show him how I felt. I've accepted that we will never get back together, and will probably continue with NC indefinitely.

    My biggest hurdle is forgiving myself, and inwardly hoping one day he will let go of all the negative feelings he may have towards me, though I know I can only control my actions and not his. I wasn't perfect, I know when we fought I said some really stupid things that effected him, such as "I know I can find and do deserve someone who will treat me right." At one point he had said he'd never find anyone better, though now I'm pretty sure all guys say that while in a relationship because when I said it after we broke up, it really hit a nerve. I've always regretted saying that because when I said it, I never believed it I was just scared he would, indeed, find someone "better." Back then, my self-esteem was much lower. During these months of NC, I've accepted that I did the best I knew how, and what I meant by my statement wasn't so much "you'll never find anyone better than me" but was really my way of saying, there was nothing wrong with me that validates how you treated me. If that makes any sense?

    I want to forgive myself, even if he may never forgive me for the way I went NC. 2 weeks after telling me he didn't want a serious relationship and didn't want to reconcile, he had a new girlfriend and claimed they were "serious" after 2 weeks. It hurt, and I said that if I ever wanted to know if I meant anything to him, he'd just made it crystal clear. Again, something that didn't need to be said. I want to forgive myself, and not say horrible things like that. I want to be forgiven, so I can make peace with myself. A huge part of me during the last 6 months of NC has really been struggling with that, and needs to know that... its okay.

    The other posts are still somewhere on the board, its been a long haul, but I feel really good about things. Most importantly, I'm feeling really good about myself because I feel stronger now than I did 6 months ago. Even still, baby steps...
  • Aug 13, 2007, 08:44 PM
    Jiser
    Keep with No contact and with time those feelings of hurt will leave. Memories will be all that remain. Stay busy and keep improving yourself, things can only get better! That someone special will be along sooner or later.

    Sometimes you just have to learn to let go, you cannot fight the past, it is what it is. If you make an active choice to let go it can make all the difference. Forgivness, etc etc, perhaps its time to just let go.
  • Aug 14, 2007, 01:12 AM
    lmnotok
    The only way that you can forgive yourself is TO LOVE YOURSELF MORE.

    Its time to take care of and love yourself and relax!
  • Aug 14, 2007, 04:04 AM
    diya
    I know you're kind of blaming yourself for ruining that relationship and hoping if there was a way you could at least tell the other know at this point in time how ridiculous u feel about what you said, right? I look at it this way... relationship which is so fragile to break at the drop of a hat, is actually fake and no party is responsible for it. All you can do now is to remember him fondly... the moments you spent with him will fade with time... will get blurred, all that would remain with you would a lifetime experience... so learn and try not to make same mistakes again in future.
  • Aug 15, 2007, 06:36 PM
    clandestine1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FrOsT_bItE
    Its been five months, and I've done a lot of healing, a lot of self-improvement, and I've spent a great amount of time with friends as well as by myself. Work is going well, my personal relationships are solid, and after five months of NC with my ex...I cracked. I didn't contact him, but I did check his/his gf's profile pages to find out if they're still together. They are. Its nothing major, but he's been on my mind way too much lately, and in that sense, its breaking NC.

    I started NC for me, to take back my own sense of self and to start working on who I am without my ex in my life. It was a rollercoaster of emotions, and I was ready to stand on solid ground. If you read my posts prior to this, you'll see that we've been broken up for almost 2 years, so I'm supposed to be ahead of more recent break ups in terms of how far along I am with everything. I'm not. I took a break from dating for a little while, just to focus more on myself, to work and hang out with friends without any stressors like a relationship. I do want a relationship eventually, but I'm not gonna lie, part of me looks at my ex having found someone he's been with for a little over 6 months and I wonder what I did wrong.

    This is an odd situation, as his present gf works where I used to, is friends with my ex-co-workers/girls I was friends with, and I hear about them a lot. He talks to my dad on the train going into work, which is nice but its not like he used to go out of his way to talk with my family. It was a bit of a sore spot because I'm close with my family and I'd invite my ex for family dinners and whatnot but he couldn't commit to it. He'd always say, "its not like we're getting married or anything."

    Part of me wonders...if the grass is greener for him. If maybe NC wasn't just about me separating myself from it and learning everything that I have about myself. If maybe it means we will never speak to each other again. I'm not even sure whats best. I know I could never talk to him now because when we used to talk, he'd bring up the gf just to bring her up, even the most generic conversations, shortly after he'd told me he didn't want a relationship. Again, better explained in previous posts. I WANT to better myself. I WANT to find the courage to take that next step and be in a new relationship, show that person and myself that I won't make the same mistakes.

    But even with NC, I still have that pang thats gotten fainter whenever someone (my father, my friends, my best friends father who helped my ex get into his precinct he's in now, his sister whos one of my best friends long before I even knew him) talks about him, or says they don't think he treats his gf now any better than he treated me. It doesn't help, no matter how hard I try not to think about it, no matter how much I tell myself it wasn't all my fault, I can't seem to ever look back on it without blaming myself for why it didn't last. Or why it is he's with her, and not me.

    You quoted me... but no response lol... wasn't sure if that was intentional or if you just forgot to write something?
  • Aug 15, 2007, 06:50 PM
    clandestine1
    Dealing with the 1 year mark
    I'm in a slump of sorts right now, and am having a hard time with the knowledge that it will soon be the one year mark of my ex and his current girlfriend. If you followed my previous threads, you'll understand the significance of that. I can't seem to shake the feeling that we only lasted 10 1/2 months officially, not including everything after that happened while we were no longer together, and they have almost hit 1 year. It makes me feel so many different emotions at once.

    First of all, I haven't posted in awhile because things have been going really well for me. My job is great, I see my friends/family daily, I selected my courses for the upcoming semester, and I've been feeling great about myself. However, I've been keeping my eyes/mind open to meeting someone, looking past looks and being open to meeting new people, but I haven't. I've gotten over my ex as much as I can, I never talk about him, I don't write about him in my personal journal, and I don't ask any of our mutual friends about him like I used to.

    How can I explain this without sounding self-degrading? Its been 6 months of NC, and I've yet to forgive myself for a lot of things that happened. I have a psychologist, we talk about issues as they come up and I always feel better when I've been able to really get to the root of a problem. Right now, I feel inferior to my exs girlfriend. I know that sounds absurd, but if she's with him longer than I was, doesn't that erase me in some part? Furthermore, while he may be immature, he couldn't commit to me yet has been with her almost longer than he was with me. I was reading a post by starscollide that talks about men being with girls similar to their exes... and that's how I feel. I feel like he went out and found someone so much like me, who's not me.

    I go from wanting a boyfriend, to not wanting any part of it because I'm scared. I'm scared of being hurt the same way all over again, I'm scared to be put down and have some guy prove that my ex was right about all of the negative things he pointed out about me while we were in contact. This is about the one place left I can even discuss this situation, as talking about it with my closest friends will be a set back to any progress I've made in the last 6 months.
  • Aug 15, 2007, 07:28 PM
    E12191G
    OK well first of all, no that doesn't erase you in any part. He can still have feelings for you regardless how long he's been with her. My x has been with someone longer then we were together and will confess that he still loves me more then he's ever loved anyone. But yeah, sounds like you've has a lot of progress getting over him. If you are strong enough to not ask questions about him to close friends then I'm sure you can get over the fact that he's with her longer then you . Maybe it wasn't meant to be. Or maybe its something you guys have to go through. But if its he case where he's found someone like you and is very much in love with her then he's very much in love with you too. If you guys are the same it would only make sense that he loves the both of you. But anyway. You seem like a strong perseon so I suggest you start seeing other people to help you get over him because your not completely over him. If you weree you wouldn't have posted this. If you do date though. I suggest you don't give your heart out so quick so that way you won't get hurt if it doesn't work out. Good luck with that!!
  • Aug 15, 2007, 08:14 PM
    clandestine1
    That's the thing, though. Part of the reason I stopped asking about him was because 1) I was making such great progress that I didn't want to set myself back and 2) mutual friends had confirmed that he wasn't treating her much better than he treated me. So it wasn't like he was so in love with her, which made me feel even worse because he could give up someone he's known for 3 years for someone he just met, and the fact that its not even something solid makes it that much worse.

    Thank you for responding to my post, and for your kind words. I'm trying to get back into the dating scene, without much luck at this point. I'm hoping when school starts I can meet new people through activities/classes/or after school clubs. It gets harder as you get older I'm realizing, and I have questioned if this is something we have to go through. I think I've become a lot stronger in the last 6 months, I've learned a lot, and I'm still sticking to my resolve by keeping my distance. Its just days like today where you start feeling old feelings, or in my case, run into connections between you that make it hard not to think about someone who was once such a big part of your life.
  • Aug 21, 2007, 09:33 PM
    clandestine1
    Ex's friend contacted me on a dating site!
    HELP! I just recently created a Yahoo Personals profile to try something new and to try my luck, really. I was contacted by a very good looking guy close by my neighborhood who looked familiar. Upon seeing the link to his Facebook, I saw my ex had been one of the last to comment, which means... they're friends.

    I have NEVER been the kind of girl to date a guy and then a friend, and I feel guilty enough that the guy even contacted me. We've never met, he just sent me a message via Yahoo personals asking to know more about me...

    What's the right thing to do!?

    Huno... if you're out there, it's the significant ex I've posted on here about so many times... THE ex... I just need to know how to reply to this guy's email without sounding like I'm being a b*tch about it.
  • Aug 21, 2007, 10:01 PM
    Dennis777
    Hello.

    Its always better to be safe so don't contact him. It could be he likes you and doesn't know who you are but it could be a set up and they want to play head games. I don't know how you get along with your ex or if there is kids but to be safe let this one go.

    Dennis777
  • Aug 21, 2007, 10:04 PM
    clandestine1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dennis777
    Hello.

    Its always better to be safe so don't contact him. It could be he likes you and doesn't know who you are but it could be a set up and they want to play head games. I don't know how you get along with your ex or if there is kids but to be safe let this one go.

    Dennis777

    No kids, I'm only 20... haven't talked to the ex in about 6 months. It's a very hard situation, and I never fully got over him. Its funny because of all the freakin guys on that site, this kid has to come up as the Top Match. I guess its better not to contact him, or reply to his message. My AIM sn is up there though, so I suppose if he IMs me I can simply explain that its better we not converse? I don't want to seem like a b*tch, but... he probably doesn't realize his friend was my first love. =/
  • Aug 22, 2007, 06:47 AM
    Dennis777
    Hello

    It would be better if you don't chat with him, if you have to answer him you could tell him that he knows your ex and you don't feel it would be the right thing to do at this time. Don't tell him you haven't got over your ex or anything about your past. You don't want to open doors for head games.

    Dennis777
  • Aug 22, 2007, 06:58 AM
    talaniman
    Be straight with him and just tell him you can't mess with a friend of the ex, and leave him alone.
  • Aug 22, 2007, 08:02 AM
    clandestine1
    Well... talk about timing! First of all, I should be honest and point out that had I not seen my ex's Facebook, I never would have known they are acquainted. Second, I have it posted on there that I'm not just interested in potential dates that I would like to make some new friends with common interests, as well.

    I would never mess with a friend's ex, but being friends with him I wouldn't be against. He goes to my college, likes the same music, enjoys the same activities. Part of the reason I'm having a moral debate with myself is that my ex dated a girl I was acquainted with after we broke up, and she stopped talking to me so I wouldn't find out. I'm not like that, I'm straight-forward and honest, but I'd have to admit I looked at my ex's profile... thats the problem as well.

    And then the ex IM'ed me. 6+ months without contact and out of nowhere, he just IMs me wanting to know how I'm doing, talking about work and the latest CDs we've purchased for over an hour. HELP?
  • Aug 22, 2007, 08:05 AM
    GlindaofOz
    Well stop talking to the ex that's first.

    As for his friend, if he never knew you I can't imagine he and your ex as best buddies. I've had ex boyfriends date girls I've known not close friends with and it never bothered me. It would only bug me if they chased after my best friends.

    If you are only interested in being friends with this guy then I see no problem with it. If you guys have a bunch of stuff in common then why not hang out and become friends? You cannot let an ex's opinion control your life.
  • Aug 22, 2007, 08:16 AM
    clandestine1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GlindaofOz
    Well stop talking to the ex thats first.

    As for his friend, if he never knew you I can't imagine he and your ex as best buddies. I've had ex boyfriends date girls I've known not close friends with and it never bothered me. It would only bug me if they chased after my best friends.

    If you are only interested in being friends with this guy then I see no problem with it. If you guys have a bunch of stuff in common then why not hang out and become friends? You cannot let an ex's opinion control your life.

    EXACTLY! Thank you, because that's what I was originally thinking.

    As for not talking to the ex... I don't hate the guy, but he has a girlfriend... the same girlfriend he got with after everything that happened last summer. I have nothing against being civil, but his timing on this one was just... beyond bizarre. I've been online quite a few times even though I'm not on very often and he's never once IMed me. Then last night, boom! If its because things aren't going well with the girlfriend... I don't want to be the girl he talks to about it. There's entirely too much history between us, its just... hard. I was surprised he even asked how I'm doing because its been such a long time, and I didn't think I'd ever hear from him again. I was hurt, but I was in the acceptance phase that we'd probably never be on good terms.
  • Aug 22, 2007, 08:22 AM
    GlindaofOz
    I would tell him just that. Say look I don't mind being friendly but I'm not your dumping ground for the problems with your girlfriend. If you are having issues with her you need to talk to her about it not me. I'm not interested in getting involved and that's the end of that.
  • Aug 22, 2007, 08:27 AM
    clandestine1
    He hasn't started yet, but I've experienced those conversations with him in the past. He'll complain to me about how he can't get a decent girl, how no girls want him, and I stare at my computer screen thinking, "What the hell was I for a year?" but that's the taboo subject.

    At this point, I've had so much time (6+ months) of NC... I'll just not sign online for awhile and collect my thoughts. You've read/replied to my previous posts, Glinda, and I've come a long way to turn around and go back to hanging on his every word. That and his girlfriend already came into my workplace once, didn't approach me, I acted like I didn't even know her, and that made me very uncomfortable. I have no intentions of being a cause of tension between them, though mutual friends say I already am. I'm not in that picture, hell I'm not even in the background of that picture. Until she's out of it completely... there's no grounds for conversation.. =/
  • Aug 22, 2007, 08:30 AM
    GlindaofOz
    And that's the right way to think. Good for you!

    You are moving on with your life and I would get to know this guy who contacted you. What's the harm? There is nothing wrong with gaining one more friend and hey if something more comes from it great. I think you have a super healthy attitude.
  • Aug 22, 2007, 08:40 AM
    clandestine1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GlindaofOz
    and thats the right way to think. good for you!

    you are moving on with your life and I would get to know this guy who contacted you. whats the harm? there is nothing wrong with gaining one more friend and hey if something more comes from it great. I think you have a super healthy attitude.

    It took forever to get there... a combination of drilling all the lessons from this site and enotalone into my head, as well as my long-time psychologist who has always helped me see the other side to a situation.

    My ex... when he got with his girlfriend, before they were serious, I told him I was still very much in love with him. Hell, at that point we'd been hanging out, casually hooking up for 6 months. Neither of us (to my knowledge) were seeing anyone else, and I thought we were going to reconcile. When I eventually brought up getting back together, he declined saying he'd never date the same person twice. I was confused because when we broke up he said he wasn't against us trying again and wouldn't shut the door on "us" because there was a lot that was good in our relationship. Another guy asked me on a date, because of my ex saying what he did I didn't see the harm in going on a date with another guy. My ex got jealous, then shoved his new girlfriend in my face. He was the one getting upset and jealous, AFTER HE was the one who said he didn't want to get back together? That's when I ended contact. He wanted us to keep talking, but he'd be cute with me, using our nicknames from when we were dating, I said that wasn't right for me or his girlfriend.

    We stayed friends on Facebook... until I was trying to change my status to display nothing at all, and selected In a Relationship to make other guys back off because I took a long break from dating after that. I didn't realize my ex could still see my page, and at this point he'd been with his girlfriend for 3 months. After I changed mine, 2 days later he changed his from "Single" to "In a Relationship." Its like dealing with a middle school crush, a guy acting like he doesn't like you, but always teases you and whatnot. He used to send me lyrics, only fragments of a song, line by line, and they were all about the same thing: being in love with someone, trying to move on but you're still thinking of that "one", all these songs... I called him out on it and he said they were just songs, they didn't mean anything. Yet... he'd continue sending them... I still haven't a clue what I think about that... He's not an emotional guy, never has been, but I know I was one of the first people in his life to ever *and I quote* "treat him like a person." =/

    I just... I need to keep my guard up because he's never sure of what he wants and I always pay for that in the end. I'll be damned if I haven't learned by now... Expect posts in the future if I hear from him again... and thank you for your imput as always, Glinda =)
  • Aug 22, 2007, 09:14 AM
    Ash123
    1) Say: Small world - too small... sorry

    2) Or just apologize that you are now... "dating" -- that would stop the trail

    3) Date him and let your Ex deal with it...

    4) damn the internet for even creating these situations in the first place
  • Aug 22, 2007, 09:18 AM
    clandestine1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ash123
    1) Say: Small world - too small....sorry

    2) Or just apologize that you are now..."dating" -- that would stop the trail

    3) Date him and let your Ex deal with it....

    4) damn the internet for even creating these situations in the first place

    The most I'd do is talk to him, get to know him as a friend... the problem is... and this is where it gets screwy... I only knew he knew my ex because my ex and I used to be friends on Facebook and I recognized the default pic... Now... you can't very well explain that to a guy "Hi, I remembered your pic from looking at my ex's profile" lol... =/
  • Aug 22, 2007, 09:21 AM
    Ash123
    Hmmm, I think this sounds like too much internet... and incestuousness -
    I'd just back away and tell him that you like to meet new people when you can,
    But are occupied...
  • Aug 22, 2007, 11:00 PM
    clandestine1
    The guy sent me an e-mail opening the door for me to safely say, "Well, we have someone in common." by sending me a link to his myspace. One of his "top 8 friends" is my ex's best friend, who I've met so I can say, "Hey, I know of _____ too." If he asks how, I'll say, "I met him through a friend" if he asks which friend, I'll bring up my ex's name and hopefully, things will be all laid out right there. It sucks to finally be having a guy want to get to know me, only to learn... he's connected to my ex. =( Its even weirder to hear from my ex, but I have no intentions of initiating any communication with my ex. I did that last time, and it got me nowhere. This time, it has to come from him...

    =/ Its just... sticky... Even still... I care about protecting my ex and his feelings, which is why I will be straight up with his friend... although... to look at the humor in the situation, I always told my ex I wanted to get to know his friends because they were an important component in his life. Guess he missed one!
  • Aug 23, 2007, 06:33 AM
    Ash123
    Make sure you only proceed into a real relationship if you really think it's worth it.
  • Aug 23, 2007, 08:21 PM
    nicespringgirl
    Ew... I think it'd be too much drama, I will leave him along.
    There are many guys out there, so try to talk to others. I suggest you meet guys in real life instead of on internet. It's up to you though.
    Well, I haven't seen Huno for a while, the last I saw him, he was rambling about the mouse who cooks.:D
  • Aug 26, 2007, 09:14 PM
    clandestine1
    NC for 6 months & he's back?
    If you've followed any of my other threads, I'm in need of advice on this one! I went NC after my ex got into a new relationship because I still had feelings for him and it was too hard to go on acting like everything was fine. I spent those 6 months hanging out with my friends, working, enjoying the summer, and getting over my ex.

    So a few nights ago I was online and he IMs me out of nowhere "" and I took a good 10 minutes before responding. He wanted to know how I was doing, but we stayed on the subject of music. He started talking about his new job, but I kept it as far away from personal lives as possible because I wasn't ready to start talking about those things yet. I don't know what my best course of action is... Its a complicated situation, and I haven't a clue what's better at this point.

    I haven't been online since, mainly because I've been at work or out with friends, and the last time I saw him was right before his birthday. I didn't acknowledge with a card/text as many on here advise not to, and hearing from him now... I'm not sure how I feel about it.


    **Example of songs he'd send last summer so we're all on the same page:

    -You're Going to Make Me Lonesome When You Go-Bob Dylan
    -Visions of Johanna-Bob Dylan
    -Tangled Up in Blue-Bob Dylan
    -Its Just Another Day-Paul McCartney
    -Grace is Gone-Dave Matthews Band
    -Everything Changes-Staind
  • Aug 27, 2007, 01:10 AM
    rol
    I guess his new relationship has just broke up or he is uncertain about her and now he needs a reliable shoulder to talk to.

    Don't be there for him.

    Keep on your healing journey moving on.
  • Aug 27, 2007, 01:42 AM
    MayMsredrose
    Hi... I do agree with rol... or simply he want to find out how are you doing... what you did was right... even if you still love him and you want to go back to him... give it some time and do not accept him unless you are sure & he state frankly that he had broke up with his new girlfriend otherwise if you accept him back in this stage he will dump you soon because she is not sure what does he want...

    You are strong... keep it up..

    Take care,

    Ms. Redrose
  • Aug 27, 2007, 10:46 AM
    clandestine1
    Before they were together, we were talking all the time/hooked up a few times/didn't just get together to hook up. We'd watch movies/TV, went out for coffee, would talk online...

    We've been in each others lives for 3 yrs, dated 1 year tried staying friends for 2. I stopped talking to him when he got in a new relationship because at that point, he'd still use the nicknames we had while dating and if he was seeing someone new, I wasn't okay with being his friend. I wanted more, he said he didn't, I let him go. 6 months of focusing on myself, on work, on school, on friends.

    I'm not sure what to do, and I don't feel comfortable bringing up the question "do you have a gf?" after not talking for 6 months. It feels intrusive... nor do I intend to be online because we live 2 blocks away, if he really wanted to talk about things he could walk over.
  • Aug 27, 2007, 10:50 AM
    clandestine1
    Okay... heres the update:

    I talked to my ex's sister and she said he's not really friends with the guy from Yahoo, more like it was his best friends friend and that's how they met. Needless to say, we shared a laugh about how small a world it is and decided it was best for me to not pursue it at all. Moreover, she said her brother no longer talks to the guy, so that wouldn't be an issue but it was best to cut ties all together.

    Then... the ex contacted me online, IM'ing me after 6 months of NC. Now... I don't know how I think/feel about that...
  • Aug 27, 2007, 10:53 AM
    GlindaofOz
    Just keep chugging online hun. He wants you to be his dumping ground and that is no longer a service offered by you, right?
  • Aug 27, 2007, 11:02 AM
    clandestine1
    Its not, but I don't hate him. We've been in each others lives for 3 years, it wasn't like we ever just... cut each other out. Its created a stir in my emotions, I guess and I don't want to admit that but it's the truth. I don't intend to go on until later this week because I'm only ever on every so often, but if he IMs me... I dread the part where I'm a b*tch and say, "I stopped talking to you b/c you had a gf and if thats still the case, I haven't changed my mind on that."

    I know that to date I was the one girlfriend he looks back on and considers the one who treated him "like a person" but... unless he wants to make a legitimate effort to get back together, I don't want any part of it. However... saying that after 6 months looks like I haven't moved on and I'm still a puddle of emotions. I HAVE come a long way in those 6 months, and I don't know how to do this nicely. Being friends doesn't work, hooking up without commitment for me doesn't work, and he doesn't want to get back together. Acting like a couple without the title doesn't work for me either.. we've done all of those things in the past. I'm tired.
  • Aug 27, 2007, 11:10 AM
    GlindaofOz
    Which are all very good reasons to not talk to him. If he wants think that you are a witch then let him. You re doing what's best for you. You are the only one who matters. Too often women put others feelings before their own - that does not make anyone a witch it makes them someone who cares and loves themselves over others (which is the right thing to do). Its not about being selfish its about saying I love myself enough to know that this doesn't work and we don't work and I don't need to be pulled into someone else's drama.

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