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  • Oct 23, 2009, 07:47 PM
    WayBackHome
    Been turned down a few times. Why do I still think we can be friends?
    There's this girl I've been keeping in touch with. I asked her to meet up a few times, but she always turns me down. Why do I still think we can be friends?
  • Oct 23, 2009, 11:49 PM
    talaniman

    You probably could if you stop asking her out.
  • Oct 24, 2009, 01:56 AM
    emopunk7
    Maybe she doesn't want to go out with you and just likes talking to you as a FRIEND! You ARE her friend and she wants to keep it that way. Accept it!

    "Sometimes we have to face life's demons"
  • Oct 24, 2009, 10:30 AM
    WayBackHome

    Believe it or not, I don't have any "plans" for her. I just want to be friends with her. I want to meet up with her so that we can be friends.
  • Oct 24, 2009, 10:34 AM
    talaniman

    If she doesn't want to, leave her alone. You can't force friendship on someone.
  • Oct 24, 2009, 10:41 AM
    WayBackHome

    You're right. It's a sucky feeling though. I feel like I was never given a chance. Even though nobody said I'm supposed to have a chance. Why do I feel entitled to having a chance?
  • Oct 24, 2009, 12:00 PM
    asking
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WayBackHome View Post
    Why do I feel entitled to having a chance?


    That's a good question!

    The reality is you are not entitled to have a chance. Fortunately, you live in a world where there are lots of other people. You seem like a thoughtful person and I predict that you will be able to overcome whatever is holding you back.

    I used to be extremely shy and while I haven't really ever become "not shy," I'm 100 times better at talking to strangers and enjoying myself than when I was younger.

    It is important to accept that some people will not be interested in being friends with you. Their loss, right?
  • Oct 24, 2009, 01:08 PM
    WayBackHome

    Hmm... so it really boils down to "you can't be friends with everyone". I know that this applies after you've attempted to be friends.
    There's no attempt here. Why do I expect her to want to be friends though? Is that just my ego/confident self? (despite what the threads might indicate, I'm a pretty confident person now).
  • Oct 24, 2009, 03:09 PM
    talaniman

    Your sure don't sound like it on your other thread. You seem needy, and not so confident at all.
  • Oct 24, 2009, 03:36 PM
    asking
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WayBackHome View Post
    Hmm...so it really boils down to "you can't be friends with everyone". I know that this applies after you've attempted to be friends. There's no attempt here.

    Hi Wayback,
    Yes. You can't be friends with anyone you select out of crowd. Friendship is definitely a two-way street. Not everyone wants to attempt to be friendly with anyone who approaches them. There's a lot you can tell about someone in just a few seconds and some people make snap decisions. This isn't necessarily a bad thing.

    Another reason someone (male or female) might reject a friendly overture is that they just have too much going in their life at that moment and are not currently open to new friendships. This can happen if they are feeling stressed (work, a death in the family, etc). Or maybe they are about the move. Or they are depressed. Or maybe they just have too many friends!

    There are SO Many reasons. So there's no need to take it personally. (Of course, they might also have pegged you for the "wrong" type, whether correctly or incorrectly.) Either way, you can't really do anything about it. I mean you could keep trying and they might change their mind, but why would you push yourself on someone when there are 6.5 billion people in the world?

    I get the feeling that's the question you are asking yourself...

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WayBackHome View Post
    Why do I expect her to want to be friends though? Is that just my ego/confident self? (despite what the threads might indicate, I'm a pretty confident person now).

    No. It's not ego or confidence. It's entitlement. Somewhere you learned, probably at home, that people are supposed to give you what you want. A little entitlement is a good thing. You need it to succeed in the work place. It's what lets you ask for a raise or negotiate higher pay for your first job. In general, men feel more entitlement than women, and they are much better at getting raises and other good things--on average. (Obviously, there are exceptions.)

    Also, some men--and you may or may not be one of them-- feel more entitlement when it comes to women. They feel that women are supposed to fill their needs. I don't know you, but it's possible that you feel somehow that this person is supposed to do that and has let you down--even though she doesn't know you. To be clear, I don't know that. I'm just exploring one reason why you might feel as if she is not doing her part. If you feel excessively entitled when it comes to women--i.e. that they are there to fulfill your needs and wants--then that's something you should work on, because it leads to very destructive relationships.
  • Oct 24, 2009, 03:50 PM
    WayBackHome

    Asking, I think that post was very insightful, but it doesn't 100% apply to my situation. I was never taught to expect things like that. I definitely didn't learn this from home. Maybe I thought that if I gave it my best shot, I'd at least get 15 minutes of her time. I figure it's not much to ask but who said I'm even worth 15 minutes of her time?

    Talaniman, I am not confident when it comes to approaching random girls. I AM confident when I'm in a conversation, or just at life in general. I always make eye contact, and stand straight. I walk a certain way. I'm FAR from a snob, but I am confident and I try to handle myself in that sense. I assure you I am not a needy person. I'm just constantly seeking to learn and better myself. It's a slow process, but I believe it will be worth it at the end :D
  • Oct 24, 2009, 05:05 PM
    I wish

    The problem with want to be friends with someone that you are attracted to is that it will give you false hope. Whether you're doing this consciously or unconsciouly, you want to be friends with her to keep your hopes alive with her. As a result, you will over-analyze all the details and even twist her actions into thinking that there's still a chance.

    A friendship occurs naturally, it shouldn't require so much effort on your part.

    Since it doesn't appear that she's interested in you, nor interested in a friendship at this point, the best thing for you to do is to avoid her until your feelings for her have disappated. Then you will feel more objective when trying to pursue a friendship with her and not filling yourself with false hope.
  • Oct 25, 2009, 06:31 PM
    WayBackHome
    Should I enter NC mode with this girl?
  • Oct 25, 2009, 07:38 PM
    talaniman

    Just leaving her alone will do.
  • Oct 25, 2009, 07:43 PM
    WayBackHome

    Maybe this is the false hope talking but... what if she contacts me?
  • Oct 25, 2009, 07:46 PM
    talaniman

    Your not doing NC, you answer and see what she has to say.
  • Oct 25, 2009, 07:58 PM
    WayBackHome

    All right. Thank you everyone!!
  • Oct 25, 2009, 08:06 PM
    talaniman

    And refrain from making new posts about the same thing.
  • Oct 26, 2009, 12:26 AM
    WayBackHome

    Well, I will just return to this thread if it concerns this situation (or a situation similar).
    If this is in response to something: I'm pretty sure I posted something recently about wanting to stay "just friends" with someone. That was another girl!
  • Oct 26, 2009, 03:41 AM
    talaniman

    Because the girl is different, but the situation is the same, what makes you think the answers will be different? How many females do you have in this same situation any way?

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