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  • Oct 10, 2008, 10:41 AM
    Mom of 2

    I agree with Talaniman (couldn't rate your answer).

    Tabbarat, why do you continue to say that you got her back?

    BTW - What are the qualities that of this girl that you are so in love with? You never stated them. Is that because you are having a hard time saying what they are? Whenever anyone asks me what I love about my boyfriend, I can rattle them off one right after the other. AND I never get "tired" of saying what they are. Don't tell someone else to get with the program until you are with the program yourself.
  • Oct 10, 2008, 10:45 AM
    wikedjuggalo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mom of 2 View Post
    I agree with Talaniman (couldn't rate your answer).

    Tabbarat, why do you continue to say that you got her back?

    BTW - What are the qualities that of this girl that you are so in love with? You never stated them. Is that because you are having a hard time saying what they are? Whenever anyone asks me what I love about my boyfriend, I can rattle them off one right after the other. AND I never get "tired" of saying what they are. Don't tell someone else to get with the program until you are with the program yourself.

    I waited on a reply. I think he enjoys the chase more then the actual capture.
  • Oct 10, 2008, 05:17 PM
    tabbarat
    I never said I FULLY got her back... but it was 2 things that made us PARTIALLY get back: 1) her ex isn't here 2) me being in the picture, flirting, giving space, etc. CONFUSING HER, doing what I did..

    Mattias and everyone else, I invite you to come to dubai and see us together... then tell me that "i only love the chase, dont love her, and etc."

    I was never a sentimental person, so forgive me if I don't feel like writing a poem here... but if you guys look back on the posts, you will see that I did write them once.. about how we have fun together, we talk for hours, never argue, have pet names for each other, tease each other, kiss, etc... there are many, trust me

    Anyway, I'm bored of going back and proving to you all that she also feels the same way for me.. it should be easier for her to tell me to fcuk off since she now is talking to her ex again, but she doesn't,. so either she still really likes me/doesnt want me out of her life OR I'm that much of a good kisser/lover and wants me physically... you choose.. actually, I'll tell u... its BOTH.. in her own words

    tabbarat has left the building...

    Hahahah... btw, I love how I have a red box for "bad reputation"... keep 'em coming

    Bad reputation huh? Girls love bad boys ;)... but I'm sure you all will remember me for years to come... tabbarat, the guy that didn't listen to anyone on this website and went on his own way :)

    Take care all

    Whoa! Who said I was leaving? I was just taking time off a bit because there was nothing new to say, and evrytime I update, I get a negative comment... so I think maybe I'll only write whenevr smthg big/significant happens

    Don't worry, ladies.. im here to stay! :)

    But I do want to thank you all for your advice... I really do feel I have met some really nice and intelligent people here...

    Take care

    We kind of touched on that serious conversation subject today...

    We have never fought, not once in the 6 mnths I've known her!. so I pointed that out to her today and started to pick a fight as a joke ;)

    She told me to stop because she had 10 yrs of fights with her ex, and doesn't want to have any with me! And that she loves how we get along, and understand each other, etc. :)

    I then asked her what they used to fight about, she told me... but I could see from her tone/what she was saying that she still has feelings for him

    So I told her that if she does decide to be with me, I would never make her cry and be good to her... I respect (not like/agree with) the fact that she still has feelings for her ex of 10 yrs, but that she should know a good thing when she sees it, because it won't be there forever! Not to get too comfortable

    I told her I'm happy the way things are now, and how we are taking things slow, still talking, kissing, etc... BUT it can't last forever... eventually I will meet someone

    She said she understands, she really likes me, and she is "angry at how her past still affects her, and wishes it was so easy for her to move on and just be with me bc that is what she wants"

    So conclusion: we both really like each other, we both hope to move forward together, but for now we both are still happy the way it is now

    The only new thing is that I said that that eventually I will meet someone new who appreciates me and it can't stay like this forever (for her not to get too comfortable)

    So for now I guess, things are still the same, but at least the subject was touched on

    Anyway, then we made out and I dropped her home :)

    Take care all
  • Oct 10, 2008, 07:52 PM
    brandibaby23

    Damn I guess this could be the end of the line huh?? Well you can write me and tell me what goes on I am bored and interested lol. Sorry dear. I will give no more advise since you have gotten so much already but I would still be interested in knowing the out come
  • Oct 10, 2008, 10:02 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Tabbarat;1315237, hahahah... btw, I love how I have a red box for "bad reputation"... keep 'em coming
    Go back and read why you have them, and see how you EARNED them, nothing personal.
    Quote:

    Bad reputation huh? Girls love bad boys ;)... but I'm sure you all will remember me for years to come... tabbarat, the guy that didn't listen to anyone on this website and went on his own way :)
    You have that right to listen, or do as you choose, and actually, your not any different than many of the people who come here, looking for suggestions and insights to help them through their situation, and if you had really read some of the other posts, their attitude WAS the same as yours, until they learned for themselves that the advice given, was to help, because people really cared.
    Quote:

    Take care all
    I hope it works out, I really do.
  • Oct 11, 2008, 04:30 AM
    Chery
    Honey, there is no reason for you to leave, and please don't get offended. I don't know who gave you the bad rating, but it should not be there, as you are living your life, and trying your best - and that's all we can do.

    You just have a different view of life for yourself. And I think it's nice for her to pay attention to you because I bet you are a fun guy to be with, joke with, talk for hours.. You are just not 'permanent material' in my eyes, but that does not make you a bad guy! I hope you stay on - and so does this young lady, otherwise she would have completely broken with you by now. So, you do have qualities as a fun person and friend.

    Just be assured that we (I) will be here when you need to talk - and give us a follow-up, no matter how it turns out. It's always nice to be able to talk to people who know a little about the real you and if/when you need someone, I'll be here. We all have a choice and right to follow a path that we feel best in, right or wrong, so do what your 'gut' feelings tell you to do for now, but also know that when the time comes for you to be really serious about someone and want to work on it, there are different ways for you to try..

    At present, you just don't have a crucial relationship problem, you just have a different view... that's all I want to tell you right now. Come back any time..

    Chery
    http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/15/15_11_2.gif She does enjoy still being with you, so enjoy that time, no matter for how long.
  • Oct 14, 2008, 09:22 AM
    slapshot_oi
    Dude, I'm going through the same thing, to a T. I'm sure this was already stated; don't contact her and let her come to you. It's a bad idea to tell her what she wants and what she's missing, by doing that, you'll just give her control of the situation and then she can write you off easier than ever.

    If it turns out she chooses her ex-boyfriend over you, like you said, it's her loss.
  • Oct 14, 2008, 11:59 AM
    Mom of 2

    You still need to have that serious conversation at some point. Let her come to you and then have it. Really think about what you are going to say and HOW you are going to say it.
  • Oct 16, 2008, 05:32 PM
    tabbarat

    Look what happened today.. the past 10 days, me and my ex have been seeing each other and talking everyday and everything good and we kiss and flirt, etc...

    So today I was going to a night club.. when I told her, she got pissed... she told me she might come and surprise me... I told her OK, but if you catch me with a girl she is my cousin :P.. I was kidding/teasing her... I send her a message of a kiss to make her feel better, she didn't reply... I don't get it, she tells me she still has feelings for her ex and wants to take things slow... when I tell her I'm going clubbing, she gets pissed?

    Then, at 2 am she calls me and says she is outside the club? I was shocked, so I go outside, and she is with another girl and 2 guys (not very nice looking, so didn't get jealous ;))! The bouncers didn't let her in because our table was full... so she said its OK, we'll go somewhere else.. so I told her "ok, bye"

    I don't get what she tried to do?. I invited her to come with me to the night club originally, she says no because she is tired... and then she gets pissed at me for going!. I send her a nice message, she doesn't reply... then she comes with 2 guys and a girl? To the same place I'm in? And wants to see me?

    Anyway, I'm going to act like its cool... tmrw I'm going to tell her, "ur friends seemed nice, we should all do smthg, etc..how was ur night"... play it cool

    She wants to not only be with me because of her ex, but I'm supposed to not go out and try to hook up? No way... she can't have her cake and eat it too!

    What you guys think?

    Regards


    Exactly... she still has feelings for her ex, but gets jealous when I tell her I'm going clubbing...

    Tmrw I'll just play it cool, not pick a fight or bring up the subject

    She has to learn that as long as she is not FULLY with me, I'm technically still single

    By the way, she isn't kissing/sleeping with someone else... her ex of 10 yrs is back in ukraine, so long distance... so she makes out with me and has feelings for me, but also still has ffelings for her ex... interesting huh? :)


    Hahah... I haven't heard from you in a while, ash; and always thought you gave fair advice, and THIS is all you have to say :)


    I agree, mom of 2

    Its part of 'if I can't have him, no one can"!

    i am starting to tire of the game...i realized it when i felt that she went there to "prevent" me from hooking up/got pissed that I went out

    She has to realize that either be with me/go forward, or else I'm still technically single.. and we all know how I like my hot tamales ;)

    I still want to be with my ex and hope we move forward, but until then, going to play it cool and try to live my life
  • Oct 16, 2008, 05:50 PM
    Mom of 2

    I think that you are starting to see the picture. Seems like she does want to have her cake and eat it too. Until she makes her decision of what she wants to do, she should have no hold on you and you should not have any hold on her (no, I know that you have not). However, it is always confusing for someone to be making out with you one minute and then being out with someone else the next. I never quite understood that. Call me old fashioned, but I find it hard to believe that a person would be able to handle making out/having sex or whatever is going on with more than one person. Then again, that is just me.

    I don't know what is going on in her mind, as I am not her. However, it does appear that she is jealous. It is human nature to want something that you can't have. It is good to know that you were able to have some kind of conversation with her.
  • Oct 16, 2008, 06:34 PM
    Ash123
    :-)
  • Oct 16, 2008, 06:49 PM
    slapshot_oi

    Ha, everything you write is precisely what I'm going through. I haven't talked to my "girlfriend" since Sunday, and it's mostly because of her sh*tbag boyfriend she had for seven years. He may be putting thoughts in her head, they may be talking/seeing each other as I write this, she may still have feelings for him (probably the case), God knows what. Either way, I hope he packs up all his sh*t and moves away.

    In the meantime, I think I'll take your path and play it cool.
  • Oct 16, 2008, 07:17 PM
    liz28

    You and her are both playing games with one another. Eventually someone will get sick of playing and realize tricks are for kids.
  • Oct 16, 2008, 10:25 PM
    Mom of 2

    Yeah, they are still playing games, but it looks like he is starting to tire of it. I never thought that his keeping the status quo would be able to go on forever.

    Tabberat, I think that you are starting to see what we have been saying for so long. Sometimes you have to do something that will force the other person to react. However, stop with trying to make her jealous (this is where you are playing games). From what you have written in your most recent posts, deep down inside, I don't think that you really like what is going on. Don't tell her what you will be doing (going clubbing, etc). You don't owe her that. That will only make her act in jealous ways and you definitely don't want that. Instead, take baby steps and start focusing on something else other than her - because you being in contact with her is not progressing the situation, is it? Instead, it is keeping you stagnant and it is telling her that what is going on at the present moment is okay and there is no need to change - ever. Just because someone is jealous does not mean that they are in love with you. It is human nature to want what you can't have; no one wants to be rejected. She is catching a glimpse of the fact that maybe you will be able to be with someone else and that is what she does not like. She may not be able to be with you totally, but she also does not want anyone else to be with you totally. That is unfair to you. If she is not willing to give you want you want and deserve then you are within your rights to find it elsewhere. She does not want that to happen. That is very selfish of her to do that. That is not true love.
  • Oct 17, 2008, 04:11 AM
    tabbarat
    Comment on slapshot_oi's post
    Yeah play it cool... be in the pic, but cool... girls like what they can't have fully
  • Oct 17, 2008, 04:30 AM
    jedidah

    Run boy Run Run... we never win fights with ghosts specially those who have been around for that long..
    If she wants u then let her want u right now she wants u around when she need to feel like she didn't do somthin wrong not getting married trying to prove to herself that 'there's somthin out there!
  • Oct 17, 2008, 05:44 AM
    Romefalls19

    I've never understood why we try to fight someone from leaving. If they want to leave, why do we think we could convince them to stay?

    One thing I've learned through my relationships is you get a hell of a lot farther walking on your 2 feet than crawling on your knees
  • Oct 17, 2008, 06:20 AM
    slapshot_oi

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Romefalls19
    I've never understood why we try to fight someone from leaving. If they want to leave, why do we think we could convince them to stay?

    One thing I've learned through my relationships is you get a hell of a lot farther walking on your 2 feet than crawling on your knees

    You answered your own question; experience teaches us how to deal with break-ups more maturely.

    I'd consider someone lucky if they had a bad relationship experience while they were young. There's a lot to be learned from something like that.
  • Oct 17, 2008, 06:40 PM
    tabbarat

    Latest update: for the past few days, I pick her up from work... today I send her a message saying I'm picking her up at 7pm... I go to pick her up, she is not there.. I call and she tells me that she was sleeping and just saw the message! I told her that I didn't believe her, and she should have called/messaged instead of making me go all the way there like a driver, etc.. we fought a bit... and hung up

    Then later I sent her a message saying "u know what, it doesnt matter...i dont care...i was only trying to be nice by picking u up...take care"

    She calls back and then the truth comes out: she tells me that she is pissed at me because she didn't really feel that I wanted her to come with me to the night club last night (which is a bit true).. she said that I didn't invite her, and that when she didn't get inside the club I said "ok, bye" as if I didn't care...

    I told her its not true, etc. I wanted her to come, but to put herself in my place... I come out of the club and I see her with 2 guys... she said they are no one, my dad's friends from ukraine... I told her anyway, I don't care, her boyfriend is the one that should care, not me ;).. we hang up

    Then I message her later, telling her I'm going to another club tonight and if she wants to come (inviting her)... she said no thanks, I don't like that place... I told her "no problem, it would have been nice, but do what makes u comfortable"

    Where is this coming from?

    I think I'm going to tell her tmrw: "fcuking move forward with me, or accept that im single and want to party alone sometimes"
  • Oct 17, 2008, 07:06 PM
    talaniman

    Hmm, Reminds me of the cave man days, when you hit them over the head with club, and drag them to your cave.

    If you have to make them be with you, its not worth it.

    Last chance, disappear from her life, and end this drama.
  • Oct 17, 2008, 07:21 PM
    brandibaby23

    Yea she is starting to sound like a selfish, crazy, nut ball!! Wow Yea you need to tell her Exactly what you said probably with out the F uck part. She is being possessive whack job, as will only make you look the same if you continue with this! STAND UP MAN!! TELL her suck it or leave you alone!! LOL
  • Oct 18, 2008, 03:21 AM
    tabbarat

    Yeah.. I guess today I'm going to have a talk with her, and tell her to either move forward with me or understand I'm still technically single... I don't want to fight with her every time I go out!

    But I do kind of appreciate where her feelings are coming from... im wondering if she gets this angry if her ex of 10 yrs back home tells her he is going out to a club?

    And about the caveman comment: all men have a bit of a caveman in them... but how am I MAKING her come to me? I told her "u know how i feel about u, i can make u very happy...if u want to be with me, i'll treat u like a queen...but if not, its cool too, i can respect that...we can just be friends/take it slow"... she AGREED, and she still admits her feelings, and she is the one that is getting all possessive and jealous when I went out, not me

    In fact when I saw her with those 2 guys and a girl, I was nice to them and showed I didn't care

    Anyway, we'll see what happens today

    Take care
  • Oct 18, 2008, 08:44 AM
    asking
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tabbarat View Post
    look what happened today..the past 10 days, me and my ex have been seeing each other and talking everyday and everything good and we kiss and flirt, etc...

    so today i was going to a night club..
    she wants to not only be with me bc of her ex, but im supposed to not go out and try to hook up?! no way...she can't have her cake and eat it too!!

    what u guys think?

    regards

    I think if you are seeing someone and talking to them every day and making out, then neither person should go out clubbing to try to hook up with someone else. You are dating intimately even if you aren't having sex. Her talking about her ex is a topic for discussing in the relationship, not an excuse to keep looking.

    That's what I think, my values. Obviously, not everyone agrees. Everybody has their line in the sand. Some people say that as long as the two are not married, they can hook up with anyone they want. Other people even say that if a married man is approached -- rather than him doing the chasing--that that's okay. I don't agree... To me, you two clearly have a relationship, even if an odd one, and I think people should only have one relationship at a time.

    You feel you can make out with her and pursue her aggressively but still chase "tamales" to satisfy your sexual urges. To me it almost feels like you don't want to win her over, but just enjoy the chase, especially if it gives you an excuse not to have a real relationship with other women. If you and she got back together you'd have to give up your single lifestyle and I don't think you really want that. But you don't want to be completely single either, because that sounds lonely and vulnerable and forces you to confront the question of whether you are really looking for anyone seriously. I suspect you of sending both your girlfriend and these other women mixed signals that you aren't sharing here honestly. I think you should stay home for two weeks and not see anyone, not go clubbing, stop sleeping around, and think about what you actually want.
  • Oct 18, 2008, 10:47 AM
    tabbarat
    Comment on asking's post
    Wow
  • Oct 18, 2008, 10:55 AM
    tabbarat

    asking: u sort of have it "on the money" as they say

    The truth is: I really do care about my ex and I hope we have a normal relationship; meaning she comepletely forgets about her ex of 10yrs and tells me "i only love u now, lets take it forward".. that would make me very happy

    BUT since SHE is the one that is preventing that and still loves her ex as well, what am I supposed to do? Let her have her cake and eat it too? I like single life almost as much as I like being with her

    Its true we are dating intimately and we have history, but SHE is the one that got it here, not me

    I really hope she decides to only be with me... but as long as she wants to take things slow, what other choice do I have?

    If I don't chase tamales/go out clubbing, then she is having her cake and eating it too... but if I do go out and party ONCE IN A WHILE, I might 1) meet someone else who will appreciate me or 2) shake things up/make my ex jealous enough for her to realize that I won't be single for long

    That is my opinion... but I do appreciate your advice and some of it was on the nail
  • Oct 19, 2008, 11:26 AM
    asking

    You are welcome, Tabbarat! I have been reading your adventures with interest. It's hard not to have a strong opinion at the moment, as I just broke up with my own boyfriend and am feeling pretty passionate about everything...

    So I don't think it's your job to prevent her from having her cake and eating it too. At the beginning, you said you really just wanted to win her back and that was all you cared about. I respected that because it put you in a brave and vulnerable position. I thought it was heroic.

    But your clubbing undermines your moral high ground completely and probably leaves her feeling that you aren't committed. (She may even wonder if she starts back up with you, if you'll continue the clubbing and hooking up behind her back.) The whole point is to establish trust and commitment on both sides. She's waiting for you to show it;you are waiting for her to show it.

    You are at an impasse. So I think you, Tabbarat, should either return to your previous position of wanting to do anything to win her back, or else move on. If the former, you should give up the clubbing and dating and hooking up, give her a deadline of, say, 3 months and see her only. Have you considered proposing? Maybe that's what she wants to hear? Otherwise, as I say, move on. But give yourself some time to figure out which is the thing you really want.

    I think this is becoming a toxic situation, not good for either of you. Even if one of you capitulates and you eventually end up together, these attempts to create jealousy on both sides will probably haunt your relationship.

    Good luck. I still admire your fortitude.
  • Oct 19, 2008, 03:57 PM
    tabbarat

    I like what I'm reading!

    I know what I really want.. it is to be with her... to be honest I'm happier when I'm watching a movie with her or having dinner with her, than when I'm out with the boys trying to hook up in a club

    But I'm afraid that if I keep the status quo ("im fine being with u while u also still have feelings for ur ex of 10 yrs"), she will be having her cake and eating it too... I need to shake things up a bit... make her feel once in a while that I'm gong out, have my own life, and maybe will meet someone else... everyone wants what they can't have

    U are right, the clubbing and tamales undermine my moral ground... but I don't want to risk being in the friend zone, and that is why the 3 month trial period is shaky...

    And like I said, if I go out then I will either meet someone else who will end this "toxic situation" or get her jealous enough to think "what am i doing? giving up someone great for a long distance ex"

    However, I do still show her that I genuinely care about her and want to be with her... I see her almost everyday.. so we do have the intimate moments and convos, etc. and have fun, and tell each other the typical sweet things, with the hand holding, etc...

    The going out and trying to hook up is maybe once a week if not less.. just to release some steam and hang out with the boys as well

    Appreciated advice again, and sorry to hear about your relationship.. wanna talk about it? :)
  • Oct 24, 2008, 05:29 PM
    tabbarat

    Hmmm... after our last encounter, we settled things and we had a talk.. I told her that I love being with her and how things are going, but that technically I still am single, and sometimes want to go out alone or with the boys.. she agreed

    We went on to have 5 great days.. again with the talking and kissing and having fun, being a couple, etc.

    But THIS time, I was the one that sort of caused a problem... I have an issue at work going on and I felt like talking to her about it... so I felt like seeing her... when I was with her, she gets a call from some guy (a friend/client of hers) that invites her to dinner with his friends.. when she considered going, I got bothered... I told her it was cool, but she could tell I was bothered... and then she "flipped the script" as they say (turned the tables), and said that "u know, we technically are still single, so u shouldnt be bothered/asking me who im going out with"... that pissed me off... so I left

    But 30 minutes later I sent her a text saying, "ur right..we are not bf and gf to question each other...u know im not the possessive type, its just bc i felt like talking to u about work...anyway, it doesnt matter...enjoy and take care"

    I didn't find out if she went out or not... didnt call her and she didn't call either.. but I did go out with my friends to a club... had a good time, but no hot tamales :)
  • Oct 24, 2008, 05:42 PM
    Mom of 2

    Do you REALLY like what is going on? Deep down inside I don't think that you do. You are so invested on getting the goal of "winning her" that you are losing sight to what is really going on. It's almost like you are so focused on keeping your eye on the prize that you are oblivious to the drama and you are telling yourself that it is okay. There is a lot more drama going on than there needs to be. Based on what you have mentioned in your posts, I don't think that this girl is worth your time. Go out and have fun and stop texting her, stop calling her, STOP WASTING YOUR TIME!! This has been going on far too long and it is getting you no where. She may be confused, but how much longer are you willing to allow this to continue? At least you have an answer, that you are not gf/bf. How can you love someone and how can someone love you when you are not gf/bf?
  • Oct 24, 2008, 05:53 PM
    tabbarat

    I agree with you that there is more drama going on than there needs to be...

    When I said I like what is going on, I meant about when things are good between us... of course not the two times we argued...

    Of course I like being with her like a couple again, and she does to (to her own admission)... we even started going to the gym together (her idea)... so I'm not the only one calling and texting and making plans; it is very equal...

    And in fact, she told me smthg the other day: "that she is trying to get over her bf!"... she is still not, but she WANTS to... starting to realize that her life is here, he is back in ukraine, and she hasn't seen him in almost 10 mnths... that is obviously good news, and maybe she is starting to see the light!

    Of course I hate it when we get into this "grey area" and argue/get bothered when one of us wants to go out with other people, but I did get myself into this mess, and willing to deal with it... I should not let it bother me, and most of the times it doesn't... but the fact that she told me that she is trying to get over her boyfriend is a start...
  • Oct 24, 2008, 05:57 PM
    tabbarat
    And about her not being worth my time... she is! Because I go out with my friends, I meet girls, I party, I drink, hot tamales, enjoy, etc... but when I go back home and get ready to sleep, SHE is the one I think about...

    And its not because she is a "prize", its because I genuinely do love her and care about her... we have a great time together, and love talking to each other, and seeing each other, etc... again I say that I prefer going to a movie with her than hooking up with a hot tamale
  • Oct 26, 2008, 07:06 AM
    tabbarat

    Hmmm... I missed writing smthg the other time... when I got bothered that she was considering going for dinner with those guys, she also said the same line I threw at her last weekend, which was "sometimes i just want to go out and be alone"...

    The only difference is I didn't handle it as well as she did last weekend... what I said was: "u want to be alone, then fine, be alone" and drove off...

    Although I did message her later saying: "ur right..we are not bf and gf to question each other...i apologize..u know im not the possessive type, its just bc i felt like talking to u about work...anyway, it doesnt matter...enjoy and take care"...

    I failed to write the last part: "anyway, i will do what u want, and leave u alone"

    We haven't spoken in 2 days... hmmm... did I overreact? I don't think she meant it in a bad way... just setting limits like I did last weekend... but I think my overreaction blew it out of proportion... I think I lost my cool...

    My message later apologizing and explaining why it happened, may have cooled things down a bit... but I think she is waiting for me to call and patch things up and apologize on the phone

    Anyway, I'll give it one or 2 more days then call/see her...

    What do you guys think? I overreacted? Is she waiting for me to call? Isn't she supposed to call?

    PLEASE NO MORE COMMENTS LIKE: Hasn't THIS GONE ON LONG ENOUGH, WE TOLD U SO, U SHOULD HAVE DONE NO CONTACT, ETC.

    ITS TOO LATE FOR THAT NOW... WE ARE AT A NEW STAGE NOW...

    PLEASE JUST ADVICE ON THE SITUATION AS OF NOW

    Thank u!
  • Oct 26, 2008, 07:09 AM
    wikedjuggalo

    I think you got a dose of your own medicine and did not like it one bit.
  • Oct 26, 2008, 07:13 AM
    tabbarat

    Your right man... last weekend when I wanted to be with the boys and didn't invite her, she got pissed.. and when I told her sometimes I want to be alone, she didn't drive off and get pissed..

    I shouldn't have told her 'fine, then be alone'... I should have stayed cool... my message apologizing and explaining may have helped, but I think she is waiting for me to make a move

    Thanks
  • Oct 26, 2008, 12:02 PM
    Mom of 2

    You are asking for only comments that go along with what you want to hear and what you have been rationalizing for so long. All that I am going to say is if it is meant to be, it is meant to be. Playing games only prolongs what is not meant to be. True love NEVER plays games, yet the both of you continue to play games.
  • Oct 26, 2008, 12:10 PM
    Mom of 2
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tabbarat View Post

    i shouldnt have told her 'fine, then be alone'...i should have stayed cool...my message apologizing and explaining may have helped, but i think she is waiting for me to make a move

    thanks

    First, you can never undo what has already been done so stop agonizing over it. The only thing that can happen is that you learn from your mistakes. Second, you may not have said it in the "perfect" way, but something had to be said. Going along as though everything is peachy keen is not the right thing either. I think that you have been keeping these frustrated feelings under wraps for far too long and that is why you lost your cool.
  • Oct 26, 2008, 02:39 PM
    tabbarat
    Comment on Mom of 2's post
    Your right, mom of 2.. can't deny the fact
  • Oct 26, 2008, 02:51 PM
    tabbarat

    If I could, I would have given you more reputation, mom of 2! :)

    Those bottled feelings must have burst... ur right.. I have it harder than she does... she has her boyfriend of 10 yrs AND me... while I have her AND hot tamales every now and then... so I have more to lose I think... interesting...

    Anyway, I bumped into her today in the mall... she told me the reason she was pissed at me was because I was acting like her boyfriend back in ukraine!. being all possessive and stuff... and she hates that... she wants to be able to be alone sometimes JUST like I want to as well, and go out with the boys

    Anyway, I apologized again for the overreaction, explained why, and told her that I hate fighting with her (she agreed), and that we should just be honest with each other from now on... it was stupid for us not to talk for 2 days and waste the weekend before I travel (going on a business trip next weekend), because before anything we are best friends! (truth)

    So, the weekends fight was solved... we agreed to be honest with each other, and sometimes let each other be single and not act possessive

    Anyway, it turned out she did go meet those guys and they had drinks (ok, I believe her)... but then I told her I went out clubbing both nights and got wasted and barely remember what happened ;)... it pissed her off a bit... its the truth! And I told her its because I was angry, and that despite everywhere I went and whoever I met, at the end of the night, before I went to sleep, she was the one I thought about and missed for 2 days! (the truth, and she liked it)

    So back to square 1 folks... and that concludes today's lesson :)
  • Oct 26, 2008, 03:07 PM
    tabbarat

    By the way, when we decided lets be honest with each other, it doesn't only mean we be truthful about what happens when we have our "single" days, but also that if she ever meets/like someone else to tell me... I can handle her boyfriend because he is in ukraine, but not some new prick here in dubai.. it would be bye bye for me

    She said that I do the same if I meet someone/fall for one of my tamales... she would hope we stay friends but doubts it because she likes me too much

    How is that for honesty!! Lol
  • Oct 27, 2008, 04:37 AM
    talaniman
    You mean your going along being her unofficial boyfriend??

    Hey dude, that's as backward as it gets. So what you have is an agreement to be there for her without a commitment, until one of you wakes up, and finds someone else.

    Talk about honesty, does she know about the hot tamale?? Oh that's right, you didn't fall for her, you just nailed her. That doesn't count, since you agreed to be honest??

    You really have to stretch to see a healthy friendship at this point.

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