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  • Jan 31, 2010, 05:19 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by xXxEmOxXxPrInCeSsxXx View Post
    Dr. Dyer has a PhD

    Actually, he doesn't. He has an MD. He's a psychiatrist.
  • Jan 31, 2010, 05:22 PM
    EmoPrincess
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Actually, he doesn't. He has an MD. He's a psychiatrist.

    On the sheet of paper hanging outside his little office thing in the main lobby there's a list of everyone. It says PhD
  • Jan 31, 2010, 05:25 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by xXxEmOxXxPrInCeSsxXx View Post
    On the sheet of paper hanging outside his little office thing in the main lobby there's a list of everyone. It says PhD

    Look again. PhDs can't prescribe medication. His Web site says he's an MD.
  • Jan 31, 2010, 05:27 PM
    EmoPrincess
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Look again. PhDs can't prescribe medication. His Web site says he's an MD.

    I could've sworn it said PhD... maybe it was someone else on the list?
  • Jan 31, 2010, 06:21 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by xXxEmOxXxPrInCeSsxXx View Post
    I could've sworn it said PhD.... maybe it was someone else on the list?

    The facility contains MDs and PhDs. You know the difference, right?
  • Jan 31, 2010, 06:33 PM
    EmoPrincess
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    The facility contains MDs and PhDs. You know the difference, right?

    Yeah I know the difference. One's psych one's med
  • Jan 31, 2010, 06:38 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by xXxEmOxXxPrInCeSsxXx View Post
    yeah I know the difference. one's psych one's med

    Wrong. Both can be psych. The Ph in PhD doesn't mean psych. It means philosophy.
  • Jan 31, 2010, 06:41 PM
    EmoPrincess
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Wrong. Both can be psych. The Ph in PhD doesn't mean psych. It means philosophy.

    O okay
  • Jan 31, 2010, 06:59 PM
    Wondergirl
    An MD = medical doctor -- a general practitioner or has any kind of specialty for which he would have gone to school longer (orthopedic doctor, psychiatrist, medical examiner, brain surgeon, gastroenterologist, etc.).

    A PhD = doctor of philosophy -- perhaps does research of some kind (psychology, food science, animal husbandry, education, library science), may teach in a university/college setting, may counsel/supervise in a clinical setting.

    Only a medical doctor (MD) can legally write prescriptions and control a patient's meds.
  • Jan 31, 2010, 07:32 PM
    EmoPrincess
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    An MD = medical doctor -- a general practitioner or have any kind of specialty for which he would have gone to school longer (orthopedic doctor, psychiatrist, medical examiner, brain surgeon, gastroenterologist, etc.).

    A PhD = doctor of philosophy -- perhaps does research of some kind (psychology, food science, animal husbandry, education, library science), may teach in a university/college setting, may counsel/supervise in a clinical setting.

    Only a medical doctor (MD) can legally write prescriptions and control a patient's meds.

    OK
  • Jan 31, 2010, 07:36 PM
    EmoPrincess

    I would like to remind everyone of this topic- given my previously stated circumstances, is it really all that wrong to be obedient
  • Jan 31, 2010, 07:37 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by xXxEmOxXxPrInCeSsxXx View Post
    I would like to remind everyone of this topic- given my previously stated circumstances, is it really all that wrong to be obedient

    Yes, because then you lose who you are.

    You had said in your original post, "when a female loves a male, she completely submits to him in every way and he is her superior." No. The correct way is this: "when a male and female truly love each other, she completely submits to him in every way and he to her." The Bible says they become as one flesh.
  • Jan 31, 2010, 07:46 PM
    J_9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by xXxEmOxXxPrInCeSsxXx View Post
    I would like to remind everyone of this topic- given my previously stated circumstances, is it really all that wrong to be obedient

    Yes. As my analogy... obedience is for dogs. Dogs obey their masters. When we are in a relationship, we are partners. No one is more important than the other.
  • Jan 31, 2010, 07:56 PM
    Cat1864
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by xXxEmOxXxPrInCeSsxXx View Post
    I would like to remind everyone of this topic- given my previously stated circumstances, is it really all that wrong to be obedient

    I haven't forgotten the other topics. :)
    You needed to hear about the medical issues because they can play a large part in what you think is going on in your brain. I think you really do need a good counselor who you can trust and be open with in person about everything you have said here. I think you need more people that you can truly trust.

    Being obedient is what you want a dog or child to be. You are neither.

    I am concerned that you are engaged at 17 years of age and that you place so much of yourself in this person's hands. You have been through a lot and I know you are wanting the stability that you think you have found. I don't think I have seen how old your fiancé is. Does he really understand the amount of responsibility you are putting on him? Do you?
  • Jan 31, 2010, 09:36 PM
    EmoPrincess
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cat1864 View Post
    I haven't forgotten the other topics. :)
    You needed to hear about the medical issues because they can play a large part in what you think is going on in your brain. I think you really do need a good counselor who you can trust and be open with in person about everything you have said here. I think you need more people that you can truly trust.

    Being obedient is what you want a dog or child to be. You are neither.

    I am concerned that you are engaged at 17 years of age and that you place so much of yourself in this person's hands. You have been through a lot and I know you are wanting the stability that you think you have found. I don't think I have seen how old your fiancé is. Does he really understand the amount of responsibility you are putting on him? Do you?

    He's sixteen. And also in need of the stability.
  • Jan 31, 2010, 09:38 PM
    EmoPrincess
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Yes, because then you lose who you are.

    You had said in your original post, "when a female loves a male, she completely submits to him in every way and he is her superior." No. The correct way is this: "when a male and female truly love each other, she completely submits to him in every way and he to her." The Bible says they become as one flesh.

    I'm not that religion, but that is a very good quote Wondergirl.
  • Jan 31, 2010, 09:39 PM
    EmoPrincess
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    Yes. As my analogy...obedience is for dogs. Dogs obey their masters. When we are in a relationship, we are partners. No one is more important than the other.

    Yes, true

    And like a dog, I enjoy the rewards of a pleased master. Such as more affection
  • Feb 1, 2010, 07:26 AM
    talaniman
    That may be well and good for young people in love now, but as you grow, and learn, and change, so will your attitude. So will his. The realities of life for adults is much different at 20, than at 16.

    Even more so at 25. Lets be real, how many young loves stay that way forever? Its easy now with hardly any real life pressures, to be, and act certain ways and enjoy it. But forever? Hardly any of us escape the need to make adjustments in our adult life, where love doesn't pay the rent, or change diapers.

    Not trying to change your mind, just trying to make you aware of the coming changes.
  • Feb 1, 2010, 07:38 AM
    neverme
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by xXxEmOxXxPrInCeSsxXx View Post
    Yes, true

    and like a dog, I enjoy the rewards of a pleased master. Such as more affection

    I am sorry but I think that you have gotten some sound advice her to see a counselor and try to work through some of your issues.

    Do you really believe the stuff you are saying??? 'a pleased master'??? That is not what a husband is, not in any country or culture! A true marriage, a true love does not have a inferiority and superiority dynamic. Its two people coming together to love and support one another for life.

    You really need to take the advice of the others seriously and go to see a counselor, really what have you got to lose if you are emotionally and mentally sound in thinking this way a professional will back you up. If not you may be able to learn something about yourself... which is always a good thing.

    Best of Luck.
  • Feb 4, 2010, 03:09 PM
    EmoPrincess
    Why does he feel so badly?
    My fiancé used to be controlling to an extent, but stopped a couple months ago. He said it makes him feel guilty. I love it when he acts like how he did, why would he feel guilty?

    He never used to have a problem with it. He would order me to do things with no problem. Now he says it makes him feel guilty. I asked him why, but all he said was "Drop it"

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