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  • Aug 9, 2010, 12:24 PM
    broken_ heart

    Yes, I do have a friend now with whom I think I can share these things.
  • Aug 9, 2010, 12:32 PM
    talaniman

    Then you no longer need him in your life and can vent, rant, and rebuild a life you enjoy without him. He may harass you again, but then you need to take the proper steps to STOP him from doings so. Legal of course.

    When ignoring someone doesn't work, call for help. Bet his fiancé can stop him, what do you bet? Or a cop!! Or a male friend! You have options, he does NOT, except to leave you alone, or face consequences for his bad behavior.
  • Aug 9, 2010, 12:36 PM
    broken_ heart

    I think you are right, if his wife comes to know about this, she will kill him and I think he would not like this to happen.
  • Aug 9, 2010, 12:43 PM
    vanheart

    As far as you are concerned now, he, his new wife or anything else that has to do with him are no longer your concern.

    You are now invisible to him. Stay that way.

    And, yes, if this becomes an harassment issue. Call the cops.

    You are better off now.
  • Aug 17, 2010, 07:29 AM
    broken_ heart

    He has stopped all kind of communication with me now. That's what I was wanting for a long time, but I am not feeling good about it which I should. I am looking on his name, reading that again and again. I know finally its over from his side as well and this is the right thing, I don't know why the hell I am feeling like this. I hate him but why I am feeling like this.
  • Aug 17, 2010, 08:46 AM
    talaniman

    Your feelings are normal, and rather healthy, as you grieve from the finality, and acceptance of your loss. It hurts, but is a good healthy sign.

    7 STAGES OF GRIEF
  • Sep 19, 2010, 12:03 PM
    broken_ heart

    Two days back in midnight he started calling me and kept on calling me for almost one and half hour. I saw his missed calls in morning. Then in morning he sent me message apologizing for the last night calls and said he only wanted to know how I am doing to which I didn't reply. I need help to get rid of his thoughts. From the past 10-11 days I keep on cursing him all the time for what he has done with me. I don't want to think about him but always find myself in doing it. I try to divert my mind to some other things and end up with headache. Even in nights I am unable to sleep and if I get sleep, I find myself dreaming about him and cursing him in dreams as well. I was never like this and I never said anything bad to him ever and this kind of my behaviour is surprising me a lot. I want to get rid of his thoughts whether its good or bad. Do I need some medical help to forget him completely?
  • Sep 19, 2010, 05:43 PM
    vanheart
    No, just stay NC. Don't worry that he's trying to contact you.

    I went through the same. Dealing with those thoughts, nightmares, etc..

    The reality is that he doesn't your time or thoughts. He not in your life anymore.

    You don't deserve them either, unless you use them to heal.

    Don't worry. It takes time. Make sure that you are doing nice & productive things for yourself.

    Its been over a year for me, and when thoughts of my ex pop in, I quickly start thinking of anything else.

    The busier you are with cool stuff, the less you have time to waste filling your head with him.

    And block him.

    Don't listen to his voicemails.

    Treat everything as spam. Delete.

    Thoughts of him? Delete...
  • Oct 10, 2010, 09:58 AM
    broken_ heart

    These days I am missing him a lot. We are not in touch now for a long time and he is also not trying which is good, but still I am missing him. I want to move on with life, but whenever I try, his thoughts take me 10steps back. How do I forget him, I have tried all but I am not able to come over him.
  • Oct 10, 2010, 10:15 AM
    talaniman

    Healing is a process, not an event, it takes time, just like rebuilding your life, it takes time and effort.
  • Oct 10, 2010, 10:55 AM
    talaniman

    That depends on how you use your time, and the effort you put in, to make the right adjustments, and how patient you are with yourself.
  • Oct 11, 2010, 06:21 PM
    vanheart
    This guy was bad news. Think about that.

    Its been long enough. You really got to move on.

    Don't wait around missing his BS anymore. Waiting for him to reel you back in again.

    Screw that.

    Its great you haven't been in contact. Keep it that way.

    There's really no need to miss him, unless you like misery. Haven't you wasted enough time on him?
  • Dec 7, 2010, 12:32 PM
    broken_ heart

    I am here again to get some insight into the matter. I went for an interview, everything was almost done then I came to know it was him after all this. He gave my reference over there. I didn't join and came back. One of my friend says that he is trying to have an affair with me and its just a part of it. But he said he was concerned for me and will always be there whenever I need him. We are not in touch for a long long time. I don't know anything about him or his life and even not interested to know. And he behaved like nothing was there between two of us ever. At the same time after so many months of his marriage why he want my friendship?
    Are his intentions still same and he is just pretending to be innocent? Or he is actually changed?
    I am over him and being a friend to him is not going to bother me. But the question is why should I? I don't see myself as his friend.
    And again, he wants to be my friend, is this called cheating on his part to his wife? Lot of questions here. Please advice.
  • Dec 7, 2010, 01:06 PM
    vanheart
    Hes using you. Wants you in his back pocket.

    Don't be his friend or anything else.

    You are getting nothing out of this situation.

    Move on. Leave him & this in the dust.
  • Dec 7, 2010, 05:56 PM
    talaniman

    I can't say if it was a play to get your confidence, or just being nice to a friend, but since you passed on it, and will not be in his debt, so feel free to forget it, and don't trip on motives that only he can know. You are not beholding to him for anything and that's a good place to be.

    You may never have real answers to your questions, but you don't need them either if you really consider it. He did what he did, and all that matters is what you did about it, once you found out. That was a profound step to take for yourself.

    No matter his motives, you proved you don't need him in your life.
  • Dec 9, 2010, 02:18 AM
    broken_ heart

    I agree with both of you..
  • Jan 29, 2011, 12:09 PM
    broken_ heart

    I did the biggest mistake of my life. He kept on trying talking to me and I gave in. Its been two months now.. we are in touch... never met... But we talk almost everyday during his office hours almost half of the day except on weekends... nothing romantic at all.. just the general talks... without his wife's knowledge... he is very much happy in his life.. and I found no guilt in him... and I am sure now that I will never find any... I am feeling really bad now... hurt again... I am repenting over why I started talking to him... it made me miserable... I don't know what I need to do now... I am not getting the words to explain how I am feeling right now...
  • Jan 29, 2011, 12:58 PM
    talaniman

    You don't have to explain the feelings, we already know the misery only to well. The thing to do is stop having all contact, and keep it that way.
  • Jan 29, 2011, 06:26 PM
    kaka67

    You need to listen to Talaniman and leave it alone.

    We all have out limits of what we will put up with, when you get sick of this you will move on.

    Not before more damage is done unfortuantely.
  • Jan 29, 2011, 09:49 PM
    broken_ heart

    But what would I tell him... why I don't want to talk...
  • Jan 30, 2011, 07:37 AM
    talaniman

    If talking to this married man makes you miserable, why keep doing it? There is no hope for love or romance, and he is talking to you behind his wife's back. What can be gained by keeping him in your life period?

    You are the one who is miserable and he is not, so what is it you want from him now?
  • Jan 30, 2011, 10:08 AM
    broken_ heart

    You are right Tal.. I don't need anything from him... when I started talking to him... nothing was in my mind, I was sure that I am over this person.. and talking to him will not effect me in any way... but I was wrong... I am feeling really bad... its like the strength I gained in so many months has started to vanish all of sudden... I have understood now that I can't be his friend at any stage of life... no matter how strong I feel I have become... I will always be weak when it comes to him... I still feel bad with his wife's presence in his life.. and I am in fix now.. how to convey this to him... that I don't want to continue with this friendship... especially when he doesn't say anything bad in this period... he will surely ask so many questions...
    Tal.. one question was coming to mind when I started feeling like this... and I didn't get any answer... I am sure you can help me with it... Tal.. I loved this man more than anything.. and whatever happened you know all... he was the one who left me... the reasons I still don't know... thats fine.. but he wanted me back as his friend... I refused for long... now what he thinks of me... of our relation... I mean no one hide his/her friends with his partner... am I right here... and if he sees me just as a friend as he behaves and says then why he is hiding this friendship from his wife... Am I on the way of becoming what he wanted me to be earlier... his mistress?? I hate this... I won't be able to handle this kind of insult... I cant...
    Please throw some light on this issue... is it only a thought of my mind... or it could be the fact from his side...
  • Jan 30, 2011, 10:15 AM
    Stringer

    Hi Broken,

    I can see no other reason that sex driving his motives, no matter what else he says.

    Please just cut it off with him, the past is the past can't be changed only today and tomorrow hold change.

    Stringer
  • Jan 30, 2011, 10:20 AM
    talaniman

    I don't know what's on his mind, but I do know that people use the friend thing to keep people close to them for their own purpose. It would be up to you to stay out of situations that can harmful to you. That's the focus, no matter what his motives are.

    It's a red flag when a married man keeps secret contact with a female. I would think if everything was straight honest, and above board, he wouldn't be sneaking around behind her back. If you feel used, you probably are.
  • Jan 30, 2011, 06:07 PM
    vanheart
    The sooner you let him be. The sooner you can leave this behind you.

    Forget the notion of getting some kind of answers why. That's a fools game.

    Never contact him again. And if he tries, don't respond.

    Hes made his decision. Now you make yours. To move on. That will give you closure.

    And the strength to be happy again. Trust me.
  • Feb 1, 2011, 11:47 PM
    asking
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by broken_ heart View Post
    Am i on the way of becoming what he wanted me to be earlier...his mistress???

    Absolutely, yes. You are lying to yourself if you think otherwise.

    I'm going to be a bit harsh, because this has been going on so long.
    Why you take this guy's calls is beyond me.

    He cheated on you; he dumped you for someone else; and now he wants to be "friends" with benefits, whenever he can talk you into bestowing those bennies.

    If you cannot resist him, you may as well go camp out on his wife's doorstep and bring all the drama to a head.Otherwise, you are just going to be writing the same letters about the same thing 25 years from now. You will have wasted your whole life on this guy.

    If you don't have enough self respect and sense of self preservation to just walk away, and if you really want to end this, call his wife and tell her what he calls you all the time and won't stop. I am betting he'll stop calling you because he'll be so angry with you for spoiling his fun.
  • Feb 3, 2011, 01:15 AM
    broken_ heart

    I questioned him why hides me from his wife.. to which he replied his wife knows about me a little.. only that I am a friend of his... nothing more.. but still he doesn't want to talk to me in front of his wife because he don't want his wife to know what relation we actually had in past... and he doesn't want any kind of mess... and he sees me as a good friend of his and nothing more... I am bit of confused now... coz whenever I listen to all of you... I am fully convinced with what all you say... but he says and behaves exactly opposite... and now the recent one I got job and my office is located adjacent to his office building... door by door you can say... I have told him that I am not comfortable in meeting him... to which he said take your time... he said he feels that I am still having feelings for him.. which he says is not good and I should come out of those feelings and if needed he will help me in this... now how can help me in this... when we were on NC... he tried almost everything to break that... and now when we are talking he is saying all this...
    Earlier he used to say in clear words that he wants me in his life as his girl along with his wife... but his words have been changed now... he haven't said anything wrong till date... but I don't want to get trapped in anything... I am not experienced in the world of romance.. this guy was the first one in my life... and I am very bad in judging people too...
    I know I don't have any future with this guy... and I don't want to get involved with him again... which I cleared him too... he behaves so innocently that it becomes difficult for me to be harsh to him... I know its been a very long time... and I am still stuck up in all this... I want a good future too.. a respectable life... but I am not getting the way to deal with him...
  • Feb 3, 2011, 07:11 AM
    Stringer

    Tell him that it is over.
  • Feb 3, 2011, 10:43 AM
    talaniman
    ERROR: You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Stringer again.


    Harshness warning

    Do NC properly!! What part of no future with a married man is it you don't understand? What part of NC is it you don't get? You are so confused when he talks to you, SO STOP TALKING TO HIM, DUH!!

    This is about you dealing with your own feelings in a mature way, and that's what NC is about! That's how you heal, grow, and learn, for your own good, NOT HIS! Screw him. (oops, bad choice of words) He is but keeping you confused as he grooms you to be his long term chick on the side, that's what he will help you with, accepting to service him when he needs to be serviced.

    End of rant
  • Feb 5, 2011, 11:57 AM
    broken_ heart

    I met him yesterday... we talked to each other for 5 minutes.. he said he wants to meet me again... after few hours I gave him call and he behaved so strange.. like he was avoiding me.. and he was out alone... I understand there is no future.. and here I don't want to lie you all... when I met him for a minute I felt the same I used to feel before.. and I am actually feeling good... I couldn't sleep the entire night... that 5 minutes I spent with him was flashing in my eyes... earlier I was scared of him... but now I am not... I was happy to see him after a very long time... I know it can have very bad consequences... but I couldn't resist him... its all becoming complicated now... I am stuck between right and wrong... I don't want to be someone for his fun like you all said and at the same time , I want to meet him again... but only talking to him would mean something else.. I am feeling good without any reason... can't we be in touch just as friends... or NC would be better option for both of us... may be I am not able to see what everyone can... my heart is getting out of control... I want to see him again and again but I am trying to control this... my heart is saying one thing and mind is saying another...
  • Feb 5, 2011, 12:18 PM
    vanheart
    That's why sticking with NC works.

    Removes all of that flip-flopping, heartache & false hopes.

    The more you play this game, the more hurt you will be.

    Start now.
  • Feb 5, 2011, 04:51 PM
    Stringer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by broken_ heart View Post
    I met him yesterday...we talked to each other for 5 minutes..he said he wants to meet me again...after few hours i gave him call and he behaved so strange..like he was avoiding me..and he was out alone... i understand there is no future.. and here i dont want to lie you all...when i met him for a minute i felt the same i used to feel before.. and i am actually feeling good...i couldnt sleep the entire night...that 5 minutes i spent with him was flashing in my eyes... earlier i was scared of him...but now i am not...i was happy to see him after a very long time...i know it can have very bad consequences...but i couldnt resist him... its all becoming complicated now...i am stuck between right and wrong...i dont want to be someone for his fun like u all said and at the same time , i want to meet him again.... but only talking to him would mean something else.. i am feeling good without any reason...cant we be in touch just as friends...or NC would be better option for both of us...may be i am not able to see what everyone can...my heart is getting out of control...i want to see him again and again but i am trying to control this...my heart is saying one thing and mind is saying another...

    Absolutely NC. Your mind is trying to help you out of all this... listen up!
  • Feb 5, 2011, 07:02 PM
    talaniman

    Your heart is leading you down the path of misery, and utter stupidity, and your brain is trying to tell your heart to shut the hell up. Its up to you to choose which one you listen to.

    Break all the contact until you know because, you keep with these little friendly feel good meetings, you know darn well your common sense will go out the window, and he will use you, and you will be very miserable again.
  • Feb 5, 2011, 07:38 PM
    vanheart
    You are forgetting the fact he's with someone else and wants to marry her. And had her before you broke up.

    You being his friend is just gravy for him.

    Why wouldn't he want to be your friend. You are falling all over him.

    Get some self-respect. You don't want him as a friend. You want him back.

    Isn't going to happen. Read back through your thread. Hes using you. And you continue to let it happen.

    Stop now. You are the one that's creating your own hurt.

    NC. The only way.
  • Feb 5, 2011, 08:03 PM
    Stringer

    Choices, you have two that only you can make, not us for you, plain and simple I believe;

    A. Continue doing what you are doing, enjoy the 'moments', enjoy what you feel are the 'benefits' that you will possibly have for the short run. And it will be the short run because I can guarantee you that his fiancee/wife WILL find out about you and the truth. And the problems that you have now will be nothing compared to what is going to be coming your way.

    All our advice means nothing if you decide to coast along hoping for the best. Only you can be mature enough to step back and see what you are doing to yourself. Because he really isn't doing this against your will, you are the one that is letting him do it. Have you ever heard the term intrinsic fortitude?

    B. Simple, first make the decision that you are a better person than this and more than a spare bed partner (sorry, but true) for him whenever he wants you.

    Do you think that you are the first to ever go through this? You know you aren't. And if you were not involved in this, what advice would you give to someone being used like this?

    Stop now, yep right now, take a deep breath and tell yourself that you are a better person than this. Your mom didn't raise an idiot.

    Good luck,

    Stringer
  • Feb 5, 2011, 09:52 PM
    broken_ heart

    I will try to go for NC again.. but what I will say if he ask what problem I have now when I was OK with it a day ago... and another thing even if I don't talk to him.. he will be there in front of me.. coz of our office location... or should I convey it to him as well that its going to be a trouble for both us in the long run and we can't be friends.. going for NC at this time is going to be very much difficult for me personally.. I maintained it earlier with lots of effort and again I am there from where I started... he didn't say anything wrong yet.. I told you how I felt but really I don't know what exactly is going on in him... he do said that he is ready to meet up again and will make plans (ofcourse hiding from his wife).. he told me he was out of his mind when he took his marriage decision.. he loved me that time.. and at the same time that he don't have any regrets on his decision.. he is happy with his life.. but he misses me lots... I stopped him right there saying I don't want to get into those things again... and I found him somewhat distant after the meet.. may be he is also thinking the same that its not going to work or whatever..
    I will try what you all are saying.. and keep you posted
  • Feb 5, 2011, 10:00 PM
    vanheart
    Stringer's right.

    Don't be scared of facing the fact that its done. Not really sure what you see in this guy. He left you for another. What you had is way over.

    You are grieving enough by allowing this false hope to continue. When are you going to be done crying over him? And start living again. Learn your lesson on who to really care about. The ones that don't screw you over.

    Talking to him was a big mistake. Right before your last post. Get it?

    Im pullin' for you. Who's In?

  • Feb 5, 2011, 10:13 PM
    vanheart
    "(ofcourse hiding from his wife)"

    Need we say more?
  • Feb 6, 2011, 12:25 PM
    asking
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by broken_ heart View Post
    I questioned him why hides me from his wife..

    Why bother asking? You know why. He doesn't want you on her radar screen before he's done with you.

    And you, for your part, are lusting after a married man. The feelings you described elsewhere are lust, not love and not "friendship."
    You are kidding yourself.

    Quote:

    and he doesn't want any kind of mess...
    In fact, a mess is exactly what he wants. He'll use you to hurt his wife. And you are cooperating. Maybe you want to hurt her too? Revenge on her because he chose her?

    Quote:

    and he sees me as a good friend of his and nothing more...
    I seriously doubt that this is true.

    Quote:

    to which he said take your time... he said he feels that I am still having feelings for him.. which he says is not good and I should come out of those feelings and if needed he will help me in this... now how can help me in this... when we were on NC... he tried almost everything to break that... and now when we are talking he is saying all this...
    He shows no respect for your asking him to leave you alone. He has no respect for you or for his wife. He cannot "help" you with anything. He can only make you miserable.

    Quote:

    Earlier he used to say in clear words that he wants me in his life as his girl along with his wife... but his words have been changed now...
    Because those words didn't get him what he wanted. So now he's trying different words. He'll say whatever he needs to say to keep you close, so he can get you into bed, sooner or later.

    Quote:

    he haven't said anything wrong till date...
    EVERYTHING he says is wrong!

    Quote:

    but I don't want to get trapped in anything... I am not experienced in the world of romance.. this guy was the first one in my life... and I am very bad in judging people too...
    I think you know better than you let on what is happening. I think you are blinded by lust.
  • Feb 7, 2011, 08:47 AM
    broken_ heart

    I am understanding what all you want to say... and as I said I will try to go on NC again... yes I do want to talk to him more.. want to see him again... but I had no idea that it will be callled as lust...

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