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  • Jun 8, 2010, 06:14 AM
    positiveparent

    I think he's just using another form of emotional blackmail type tactic, as in wanting you to think he's really OK with the break up, so then you'll begin wondering , why is he acting so civilised, and cool about things, oh perhaps he really is happy with the split.

    This then causing you to start questioning have you made right decision blah blah,

    However you did good you signed out of Facebook, Top Marks *♥*♥*♥* ( big stars for you)

    I think you've got it , yes by jove you've got it . WooHoo

    I replied to your hotmail account, did you get it? :confused:

    :):):)
  • Jun 8, 2010, 07:54 AM
    eveamee09
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by positiveparent View Post
    I think hes just using another form of emotional blackmail type tactic, as in wanting you to think hes really OK with the break up, so then youll begin wondering , why is he acting so civilised, and cool about things, oh perhaps he really is happy with the split.

    This then causing you to start questioning have you made right decision blah blah,

    However you did good you signed out of facebook, Top Marks *♥*♥*♥* ( big stars for you)

    I think youve got it , yes by jove youve got it . WooHoo

    I replied to your hotmail account, did you get it ??:confused:

    :):):)

    Hiya, yes you are so right! Suddenly I was actually questioning in my mind if I'm doing the right thing, like I know I am really but a part of me was like "oh well perhaps there's a chance he will treat me differently after all this".. but NO I know that's not true (even though he will try to persuade me it is).. I know that I'm doing this for a reason because I was so unhappy and this is the right thing for a positive future! So I am pleased that I ignored it and I enjoyed myself today in the pool wearing normal swimwear rather than the silly shorts and t-shirt I used to wear because of him. :)

    And nope I never did get it, I have been checking it quite a lot but nothing there! I even checked my deleted mail box and there's nothing there from you either. Sorry, I'm confused too!

    Off to the library now for some more revision, take care
  • Jun 8, 2010, 11:31 AM
    Kitkat22

    Sounds like you're doing good... I'm so gald... Wow I was worried about you there for a while.

    I'm going to get up from my desk find my IPOD and put on "I Will Survive"...

    My husband is going to think I've lost it when I go dancing into the garage in my bell bottoms and an old rolling stones Tshirt... I feel great... you are free of this guy!
  • Jun 8, 2010, 05:01 PM
    eveamee09

    Haha Kit I wish I was there to see it! And funny you should say that about that song.. I've been listening to "I Will Survive" practically every day on YouTube, it's a really great uplifting song! I feel pleased too, and couldn't have got this far without everybody's help. Have a great evening, off to bed now after having lots of fun chatting to some friends and laughing so much that my stomach now hurts! Hehe sleep well x
  • Jun 10, 2010, 05:02 AM
    positiveparent

    I feel I should forewarn you that you are going to get days where you will need all of your strength and resolve to stop yourself from being tempted to go back to him.

    At those times I suggest you go out window shopping or if you can afford to go out and treat yourself, buy a new dress or something or even just go buy yourself a cream cake lol, just do anything that helps you overcome the temptation.

    I also recommend you change your phone number, ASAP, this will stop you getting tempted if he texts you, or phones you.

    Go out with your g/friends, but be careful to avoid places you went to with him, or where you know he may frequent, if you can afford it buy yourself some new clothes or if not put any that he may have given to you at the back of your wardrobe until you're more able to wear them without thinking of the occasions when you wore them with him.

    Put any letters or cards or photos you have of him or the two of you together in a box and put them in the loft, you can of course burn them or shred them, but if you don't feel up to doing this just put them out of reach. Or easy access.

    Change something about yourself in some way, i.e. if you have long straight hair try wearing it curled, or up on top of your head, in some way that's different, it'll help you feel better and good about yourself, or you could colour your hair, or start wearing a different colour lip gloss/stick, wear or stop wearing eye liner, just something subtle, it all helps.

    Go out and flirt outrageously.

    Im sure you'll soon find that it all gets much easier, in no time at all.

    A year from now or less you'll wonder what the fuss was all about. Im sure you will.

    Anyway you've got 2 more Mums now to help you over this. You can't lose

    Not sure about the rolling stones, Im more into Paul Van Dyk, or Paul Oakenfold myself.

    Yep Im a party animal.

    A recycled Teenager...
  • Jun 10, 2010, 05:10 AM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by positiveparent View Post
    I feel I should forewarn you that you are going to get days where you will need all of your strength and resolve to stop yourself from being tempted to go back to him.

    At those times I suggest you go out window shopping or if you can afford to go out and treat yourself, buy a new dress or something or even just go buy yourself a cream cake lol, just do anything that helps you overcome the temptation.

    I also recommend you change your phone number, ASAP, this will stop you getting tempted if he texts you, or phones you.

    Go out with your g/friends, but be careful to avoid places you went to with him, or where you know he may frequent, if you can afford it buy yourself some new clothes or if not put any that he may have given to you at the back of your wardrobe until youre more able to wear them without thinking of the occasions when you wore them with him.

    Put any letters or cards or photos you have of him or the two of you together in a box and put them in the loft, you can of course burn them or shred them, but if you dont feel up to doing this just put them out of reach. Or easy access.

    Change something about yourself in some way, i.e. if you have long straight hair try wearing it curled, or up on top of your head, in some way thats different, itll help you feel better and good about yourself, or you could colour your hair, or start wearing a different colour lip gloss/stick, wear or stop wearing eye liner, just something subtle, it all helps.

    Go out and flirt outrageously.

    Im sure youll soon find that it all gets much easier, in no time at all.

    A year from now or less youll wonder what the fuss was all about. Im sure you will.

    Anyway youve got 2 more Mums now to help you over this. You can't lose

    Not sure about the rolling stones, Im more into Paul Van Dyk, or Paul Oakenfold myself.

    Yep Im a party animal.

    A recycled Teenager...

    I'm so proud ! Our girl is going to make it through this.:cool: Evemee another great song... "You're No Good" by Linda Ronstadt... old song.
  • Jun 10, 2010, 05:33 AM
    eveamee09
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kitkat22 View Post
    I'm so proud ! Our girl is going to make it through this.:cool: Evemee another great song..."You're No Good" by Linda Ronstadt....old song.

    I am trying my best :) Thanks I will listen to the song now.. trying to think positive! And love the advice from positiveparent above... I will take time to go shopping once exams are over and buy some nice things for myself. All the Valentine's cards etc are now safely away in a draw and will be moved somewhere else far away when I get home. And I'm avoiding the gym where I met him at all costs!
  • Jun 10, 2010, 05:34 AM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by eveamee09 View Post
    I am trying my best :) Thanks I will listen to the song now.. trying to think positive! And love the advice from positiveparent above... I will take time to go shopping once exams are over and buy some nice things for myself. All the Valentine's cards etc are now safely away in a draw and will be moved somewhere else far away when I get home. And I'm avoiding the gym where I met him at all costs!

    Keep it up... You're doing great!:D
  • Jun 10, 2010, 07:06 AM
    positiveparent

    https://sites.google.com/site/pospar...or3/colour.jpg

    Something to help out maybe.
  • Jun 10, 2010, 07:20 AM
    positiveparent

    Of course you could always watch this video which I think is hilarious. Check Out

    YouTube - divine - you think you're a man
  • Jun 10, 2010, 09:48 AM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by positiveparent View Post
    of course you could always watch this video which I think is hilarious. Check Out

    YouTube - divine - you think you're a man








    It is... :D
  • Jun 10, 2010, 11:23 AM
    eveamee09
    Oh my GOSH. Something unexpected and not good has happened. I am so upset and so utterly fed up with this whole thing now.

    So I'm on the computer going about business as normal, then suddenly out of the blue my boyfriend's friend calls me. She says basically that "he's in a really bad way.. going absolutely crazy.. doesn't know what's going on.. do you want to be with him/don't you want to be with him.. you need to talk to him". So obviously I am very worried and concerned, but I tell her that him and I can't talk until after exams as I'm stressed enough as it is.

    Next thing I know my boyfriend is bombarding me with messages on Facebook chat. "Katie, I have to talk to you.. Katie please stop all this ignoring.. I can't stand it.. I'm going mad.." etc etc. I have her on the other end of the phone demanding I speak to him, so I instant message him back just to wait a minute. I finish the phone conversation with her and then begin speaking to him on Facebook. He said most of what I predicted really - "I have been doing so much thinking/soul-searching, realised how awful and controlling I've been.. no wonder you've been so upset.. I've been so over the top... I feel awful... I love you with all of my heart.. you are the one.." etc etc. Everything I expected. Very convincing he was. I actually believe that what he's saying is true - although I know that it would only be that way for a few months, and eventually his old ways would creep back.

    But anyway, so this conversation went on and on, getting nowhere, me saying that we can't talk right now because I'm revising, him sometimes demanding answers: "do you want to be with me? Is it true that you've had enough?" and sometimes telling me to take my time and think about it and that we'll speak later. Thing is, I know it's selfish but I can't tell him the truth right now, because he wouldn't believe me and would hassle me constantly with phonecalls/texts which would equal terrible stress for both of us (I have an exam tomorrow). So instead I told him that I need time to think, that we should be friends for now and continue not talking until after exams. Eventually he agreed and apologised and told me to go and revise and that he was sorry for disturbing me, but he had been having a bad panic attack and gave into the urge to call. I advised him to go back to his Mum's home instead of being in his flat on his own, and to spend time with family and friends for now. He said he's probably going to go to Egypt tomorrow (where his Dad's side of the fam live).

    So the conversation ended, with nothing being solved, me feeling awful again (all those original feelings I felt a week ago of anxiety, pain, guilt and really really missing him) and then on the other hand knowing I have to hold it all together for the next week until these exams are out the way.

    Even though I have just spoken to him and heard his promises, I still feel strong with my decision. I still know it's the best thing. I also have humungous urges to go back to him though. I really do. I want to believe that he will change, I want to believe that our love is so strong it will last forever. I truly want to believe that and just give in.

    But I feel like I would be letting SO many people down if I did, not to mention myself. My whole family, my friends and also everybody on here. Why did this have to happen? Why is this so hard? I know we've been over this before but it all feels so raw again. I am trying very hard to stay strong. I still have urges even now to phone him back and be comforted but I know it's not the right thing to do. I love him dearly and talking to him again has made me miss him even more.

    Sorry I think I just needed to get all my feelings out in words to make myself feel better. I just don't know how I'm going to find the strength to do this. Once he's gone he's gone, and can't stand the thought of missing him forever and never again experiencing those amazing close things we've shared.

    Why did I have to fall in love with someone who was so bad for me! Why! He is such a lovely caring person and loves me so much... ARGHHHHHHHHH

    Okay I am going to my friend's house now to talk to her about it. I can't just sit here on my own! I will try and get some revision done there. Thanks everybody, and sorry to have let you down by talking to him, but at the time there really was no other option. I'll be back here in a few hours' time.
  • Jun 10, 2010, 11:35 AM
    talaniman

    His actions and your reactions have changed nothing, just stirred up old feelings, and exposed the same raw wound, that was there before.

    Stay on your path of NC, and let him go to Egypt, or wherever he wants to deal with his own feelings.

    Such emotional responses very seldom are based in fact, nor are they rational.

    Nothing has changed, just the level of the drama. Should have just told him to get over himself and leave you alone.*

    *Copy and paste this backward on your forehead, to remind you of what to do every time you look in the mirror.
  • Jun 10, 2010, 12:00 PM
    Kitkat22

    Ok... We knew this would happen , right?. You said a few days you thought he might do this right?

    You still have feelings for him and that's normal. You have come so far and we knew this was going to happen.

    Don't be swayed... he's ashamed to let his family in Egypt know "his little woman", is no longer dancing to his tune.

    Get control of yourself and don't talk to him. Rememember "I Will Survive"? You've been doing a darn good job of it in the last couple of weeks.

    Tal gave you some good advise and listen... don't let yourself regress back to the mess you were when you first came here.

    He's feeling the control slipping away and he can't stand it. Block him from everything. To heck with his exams... break it off now.

    He's a big boy and you have outgrown his bullying, demanding,
    Hot tempered, jealous, demeaning
    Ways. Don't you call him... Please

    P.S You ought to see me when I'm really mad:eek:
  • Jun 10, 2010, 12:36 PM
    positiveparent

    OK I feel its time to possibly be cruel to be kind.

    I truly feel that instead of saying you can't tell him you're over and done with him yet because of this or that, you need to go tell him what is what and NOW, you aren't being fair to him if he isn't aware as such of your intentions, and whilst he's not aware then you won't get anywhere with this NC stuff, because lets face it the guy has heard you say you're not happy with things, BUT you Haven't told him you want to end your relationship with him, he's bound to wonder what's going on.

    So whilst you're into the NC stuff, he's wondering what the hell is going on.

    Really you have got to tell him what you're doing and why there's no such word as cant, you can tell him and you must do so now, you aren't being fair to yourself or him, its OK saying you'll tell him in 2 or 3 weeks time, great, in which time you'll have a trial run at NC, knowing he doesn't know, which indirectly means you've given yourself a safety net and time for a trial run of NC, which gives you time to either back out or go back, he wouldn't be any the wiser.

    Why put off till tomorrow what you can do today, Really the time for stalling has ended you really must tell him your intentions and why, and then walk away don't look back, but until he knows your plans he's got no idea that he's for now at least history so he will make emotional displays and possibly demands too, you can't keep him on a string that's not fair to either of you, its got to be a clean break, or it won't do either of you any good.

    Please if you want to end it with this guy you've got to tell him that you are. Now Please.

    If you decide not to go through with this, you won't have let me down, I would respect your decision and leave it at that, you've got to live your life for you no one else, those who care about you won't condemn you or say anything bad about you or to you, some may be disappointed but its human nature peoples relationships are on and off on occasion, so don't worry what others want you to do, you have to do whatever you do for you, and only you. Ill stick by you whatever you choose to do, but know you are responsible for your choices and the outcome of those choices good or bad.

    Choose what you want for YOU..
  • Jun 10, 2010, 12:51 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by positiveparent View Post
    OK I feel its time to possibly be cruel to be kind.

    I truly feel that instead of saying you can't tell him youre over and done with him yet because of this or that, you need to go tell him what is what and NOW, you arent being fair to him if he isnt aware as such of your intentions, and whilst hes not aware then you wont get anywhere with this NC stuff, because lets face it the guy has heard you say youre not happy with things, BUT you Havent told him you want to end your relationship with him, hes bound to wonder whats going on.

    so whilst youre into the NC stuff, hes wondering what the hell is going on.

    Really you have got to tell him what youre doing and why theres no such


    word as cant, you can tell him and you must do so now, you arent being fair to yourself or him, its OK saying youll tell him in 2 or 3 weeks time, great, in which time youll have a trial run at NC, knowing he doesnt know, which indirectly means youve given yourself a safety net and time for a trial run of NC, which gives you time to either back out or go back, he wouldnt be any the wiser.

    Why put off till tomorrow what you can do today, Really the time for stalling has ended you really must tell him your intentions and why, and then walk away dont look back, but until he knows your plans hes got no idea that hes for now at least history so he will make emotional displays and possibly demands too, you can't keep him on a string thats not fair to either of you, its got to be a clean break, or it wont do either of you any good.

    Please if you want to end it with this guy youve got to tell him that you are. Now Please.

    If you decide not to go through with this, you wont have let me down, I would respect your decision and leave it at that, youve got to live your life for you no one else, those who care about you wont condemn you or say anything bad about you or to you, some may be disappointed but its human nature peoples relationships are on and off on occasion, so dont worry what others want you to do, you have to do whatever you do for you, and only you. Ill stick by you whatever you choose to do, but know you are responsible for your choices and the outcome of those choices good or bad.

    Choose what you want for YOU..

    I believe he will never change. He was raised in a culture that has been instilled in him. Katie.. think about this. I know you love him and he'll promise anything to get you back. If you do go back , picyure yourself and him five years from now... Kit
  • Jun 10, 2010, 01:02 PM
    positiveparent

    Katie know this if you don't sort this out and let him know what you're intentions are, then that could just be something you end up living to regret, because finding out you've in his mind at least played with him, could push him one step too far, and he could turn nasty towards you, thinking that you've maybe been using him or similar.

    A Mans Pride and Ego don't take kindly to being dented.
  • Jun 10, 2010, 01:20 PM
    positiveparent

    Kits spot on he won't change, Leopards never change their spots they merely re-arrange them.

    He may promise you the earth, swear on a stack of bibles or islam equivalent and possibly really mean it at the time, but believe me, he will revert to type its ingrained in him, he's a control freak, a negative entity, and they always get worse with age.

    Since being with him going on what you've told us in these posts, you've had a sneak peak into Domsetic Violence, a mild form maybe but domestic violence all the same, so just ask yourself, do you want him telling you who you can or cannot mix with, or for him to accuse you of screwing any male over 5 years old, to accuse you of making him act like he does, and its all your fault if it wasn't for your stupidity and not listening to him it wouldn't be happening.

    Do you want him calling you a slut telling you you're a useless person and that if you report him to the police no one will believe you because everyone knows you're sick and a liar a slut whore tart, tramp, and if you have kids hell ridicule you in front of them, tell you you're a useless Mother, and wife, do exactly what he wants whilst you dread him walking through the door at night after he's had a skinful of beer, and forget about having headaches, hell just take what he wants when he wants it, Because you're his property, and he is entitled

    Don't kid yourself it won't happen to you, because on what you've told us he's already well on the way, do you want to tell your family oh I walked into a door, for the umpteenth time. Because he blacked your eyes.

    Did you also know 90% of all murders are Domestic between man and wife usually, because they are.

    I was lucky I managed to escape eventually after 7 years of being his piece of trash, who couldn't have any friends because they were all tramps. My family were low lifes I was scum, and more much more.

    Oh but as soon as I managed to get away he became a snivvelling little wimp again, because that's what he really was, a big hard man who could only beat his 5ft 1inch 8stone wife up, but ran for the hills if he thought a Man may confront him. Yes he was hard to look at without laughing.

    Oh and hell keep you barefoot and broke as the saying goes.

    Stick with your ex and the above is what you can look forward to. So do you want to be treated well or without hope. You choose.
  • Jun 10, 2010, 03:57 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by positiveparent View Post
    Kits spot on he wont change, Leopards never change their spots they merely re-arrange them.

    He may promise you the earth, swear on a stack of bibles or islam equivalent and possibly really mean it at the time, but believe me, he will revert to type its ingrained in him, hes a control freak, a negative entity, and they always get worse with age.

    Since being with him going on what youve told us in these posts, youve had a sneak peak into Domsetic Violence, a mild form maybe but domestic violence all the same, so just ask yourself, do you want him telling you who you can or cannot mix with, or for him to accuse you of screwing any male over 5 years old, to accuse you of making him act like he does, and its all your fault if it wasnt for your stupidity and not listening to him it wouldnt be happening.

    Do you want him calling you a slut telling you youre a useless person and that if you report him to the police no one will believe you because everyone knows youre sick and a liar a slut whore tart, tramp, and if you have kids hell ridicule you in front of them, tell you youre a useless Mother, and wife, do exactly what he wants whilst you dread him walking through the door at night after hes had a skinful of beer, and forget about having headaches, hell just take what he wants when he wants it, Because youre his property, and he is entitled

    Dont kid yourself it wont happen to you, because on what youve told us hes already well on the way, do you want to tell your family oh I walked into a door, for the umpteenth time. because he blacked your eyes.

    Did you also know 90% of all murders are Domestic between man and wife usually, because they are.

    I was lucky I managed to escape eventually after 7 years of being his piece of trash, who couldnt have any friends because they were all tramps. My family were low lifes I was scum, and more much more.

    Oh but as soon as I managed to get away he became a snivvelling little wimp again, because thats what he really was, a big hard man who could only beat his 5ft 1inch 8stone wife up, but ran for the hills if he thought a Man may confront him. Yes he was hard to look at without laughing.

    Oh and hell keep you barefoot and broke as the saying goes.

    Stick with your ex and the above is what you can look forward to. So do you want to be treated well or without hope. You choose.

    Katie... let us know what is going on...
  • Jun 10, 2010, 04:17 PM
    eveamee09

    Hi, I am sorry for the late reply, I have been out distracting myself with friends and trying to revise. Didn't really work though.

    I am just a complete confused mess and don't know what to think or believe. One person's telling me one thing, somebody else is telling me another, and it's so difficult to make up my own mind. I am just so confused about it all and really didn't expect these feelings to come back so strong and intense. This is all also mixed with the stress of anticipating the exam tomorrow so really I just feel like screaming and collapsing on the floor. I don't think tonight is a time to make any decisions so I am going to just see how I feel after my exam in two days. My heart is telling me one thing and my head another. I just can't cope with this stupid situation anymore.

    Thanks both of you for your support, your words mean a lot to me and sorry for leaving you hanging all evening. I'll stay on here for a bit to chat if you are around.
  • Jun 10, 2010, 04:21 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by eveamee09 View Post
    Hi, I am sorry for the late reply, I have been out distracting myself with friends and trying to revise. Didn't really work though.

    I am just a complete confused mess and don't know what to think or believe. One person's telling me one thing, somebody else is telling me another, and it's so difficult to make up my own mind. I am just so confused about it all and really didn't expect these feelings to come back so strong and intense. This is all also mixed with the stress of anticipating the exam tomorrow so really I just feel like screaming and collapsing on the floor. I don't think tonight is a time to make any decisions so I am going to just see how I feel after my exam in two days. My heart is telling me one thing and my head another. I just can't cope with this stupid situation anymore.

    Thanks both of you for your support, your words mean a lot to me and sorry for leaving you hanging all evening. I'll stay on here for a bit to chat if you are around.

    Study.. with a friend. I wish you had someone you could stay with. I feel uneasy about him. I guess you have a lot of thinking to do. Read back over all the post. We're here for you... {{ HUGS}}... Kit
  • Jun 10, 2010, 04:22 PM
    positiveparent

    Hi Katie Pleased to know you're still with us, can we chat on here?
  • Jun 10, 2010, 04:24 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by positiveparent View Post
    Hi Katie Pleased to know youre still with us, can we chat on here??

    Well the mods don't allow it. But use pm or IM.
  • Jun 10, 2010, 04:25 PM
    eveamee09

    Yes of course we can chat on here. Thanks, yes I wish I had somebody else too but unfortunately it's 23 past midnight and everyone else is asleep! I think that tomorrow I will read over the posts for a second time in detail and try to absorb fully what you're saying. It's hard because I feel like my emotions have muffled any type of rational thought at the moment, so like I said to Marianne in the email, after a good sleep I should think clearer tomorrow. Just all the love's come rushing back and the thought of "oh, what if he does change? What if he actually means it?" Even though I know that's stupid I can't help wondering it and wanting to give him another chance. Don't worry though, like I said tonight I feel very confused...
  • Jun 10, 2010, 04:39 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by eveamee09 View Post
    Yes of course we can chat on here. Thanks, yes I wish I had somebody else too but unfortunately it's 23 past midnight and everyone else is asleep! I think that tomorrow I will read over the posts for a second time in detail and try to absorb fully what you're saying. It's hard because I feel like my emotions have muffled any type of rational thought at the moment, so like I said to Marianne in the email, after a good sleep I should think clearer tomorrow. Just all the love's come rushing back and the thought of "oh, what if he does change? What if he actually means it?" Even though I know that's stupid I can't help wondering it and wanting to give him another chance. Don't worry though, like I said tonight I feel very confused...

    It would be like me trying to change my husband from a Republican to a democrat. He might try to think the way I wanted him too for a while and then when things got back to normal he would start acting like a Republican(bad analogy I know). I wouldn't change my beleifs as a Baptist and a christian for anyone. Think Katie... and sleep well... Kit
  • Jun 10, 2010, 05:01 PM
    eveamee09

    Kit I know you're right, I've just had a chat with my best friend Catherine and she's talked a bit of sense into me.. or rather I talked some into myself.. I hope tomorrow I see things more clearly. Have a lovely evening and appreciate your help. Night x
  • Jun 11, 2010, 03:29 AM
    eveamee09

    Hiya, woke up this morning feeling a lot more positive, I realise that the emotions of yesterday were taking over and that really deep down nothing has changed. Even if he promised to change, I am imagining (like somebody suggested) what he'd be like in 5 years' time, and he would most likely revert back to what he was like in the first place... also if he did agree to do things like letting me go clubbing etc he would still be a nervous wreck whilst I was out and either ring me every 5 minutes or interrogate me when I got back, so it just wouldn't be worth it. I do truly believe that he WANTS to change and means it, but I just don't think it's physically possible for somebody that radical to do so. Like you said Kit about the analogy of trying to change your husband - in the long-term it just wouldn't work.

    My exam's in 2 hours so am going to go and finish off preparing for that. Have a nice day, speak later x
  • Jun 11, 2010, 08:08 AM
    positiveparent

    That's great knowing you feel more positive about things today.

    From what I can see the bottom line is, you have 2 options open to yourself.

    You can get back into this relationship, knowing what you can look forward to or you can end it and mean it, and focus on your University Degree, and put all thoughts of a relationship on hold for the time being, you have your whole life ahead of you, and in my opinion this time at Uni should be your time for focusing on your career plans.

    Not spending night after night torturing yourself over a relationship that in my opinion based on personal experience is headed for disaster, and that's the only way to describe your relationship with this guy.

    I believe you are aware of where this relationship will end up if you stick with or go back to it.

    Katie you're young, and single, if you were my own Daughter, I would be advising you to forget about boyfriends and relationships for now, and to get out there, enjoy life, take the world by the ears and grab what you can, go see the world, get your degree, and live your life for you and only you, you can give your time and attention to having a relationship in say 5 or 10 years time, there's no rush, you have years before you need to spend hours deliberating over what would be a disastrous relationship.

    Go out there and live your life to the full don't give it over to a relationship that's going to end in disaster.

    If you live your life for you now by the time you get to thinking about a relationship you'll have gained so much experience you'll be more worldy wise, just think how much richer any future relationships you embark upon are going to be, don't give away your youth you only have it once make the most of it, and worry about love and romance in a few years time, There is no rush its not a race.

    If I had my way on things I would want the age of consent for getting married raised to 30 for males and 28 for females, why? Because under these ages no one male or female is experienced enough or wise enough to be able to make a success of any romantic relationships, it would also give the youth of the world more time to focus on learning life skills and maturing enough to cope with relationships/marriage.

    I reckon it would also cut down the divorce rate.

    P.S. get yourself a BOB ( battery operated boyfriend) they're less hassle and always do as they're supposed to. LOL
  • Jun 11, 2010, 09:47 AM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by positiveparent View Post
    Thats great knowing you feel more positive about things today.

    From what I can see the bottom line is, you have 2 options open to yourself.

    You can get back into this relationship, knowing what you can look forward to or you can end it and mean it, and focus on your University Degree, and put all thoughts of a relationship on hold for the time being, you have your whole life ahead of you, and in my opinion this time at Uni should be your time for focusing on your career plans.

    Not spending night after night torturing yourself over a relationship that in my opinion based on personal experience is headed for disaster, and thats the only way to describe your relationship with this guy.

    I believe you are aware of where this relationship will end up if you stick with or go back to it.

    Katie youre young, and single, if you were my own Daughter, I would be advising you to forget about boyfriends and relationships for now, and to get out there, enjoy life, take the world by the ears and grab what you can, go see the world, get your degree, and live your life for you and only you, you can give your time and attention to having a relationship in say 5 or 10 years time, theres no rush, you have years before you need to spend hours deliberating over what would be a disasterous relationship.

    Go out there and live your life to the full dont give it over to a relationship thats going to end in disaster.

    If you live your life for you now by the time you get to thinking about a relationship youll have gained so much experience youll be more worldy wise, just think how much richer any future relationships you embark upon are going to be, dont give away your youth you only have it once make the most of it, and worry about love and romance in a few years time, There is no rush its not a race.

    If I had my way on things I would want the age of consent for getting married raised to 30 for males and 28 for females, why? because under these ages no one male or female is experienced enough or wise enough to be able to make a success of any romantic relationships, it would also give the youth of the world more time to focus on learning life skills and maturing enough to cope with relationships/marriage.

    I reckon it would also cut down the divorce rate.

    P.S. get yourself a BOB ( battery operated boyfriend) theyre less hassle and always do as theyre supposed to. LOL

    Post when you need us.. We worry about you... Kit
  • Jun 11, 2010, 09:49 AM
    eveamee09

    Haha I want a BOB! He would be perfect for me! Do you know, I actually agree with everything you've just said. I think that at the age of 18 there are a lot more important things in life to worry about and stress over than men and love etc. especially when the person you are with isn't making you happy. You're right, I would love to be able to focus on things I want and things that make ME happy, and not worry about pleasing/disappointing him. Today I am feeling stronger and realise very much that yesterday my emotions were blocking my rational thought processes. I should really put my Psychology Degree here to good use and apply some of the theories to myself!

    Yes, I know the relationship was heading for disaster, my rational mind knows that and knows that getting out now is definitely the best thing. However once your emotions come in they completely take control and thinking reasonably is very hard. That's why I think it's important to always wait and think rather than making rash decisions based on feelings alone. Deep down I know I am doing all this for a reason. My friend gave me some really good advice - she said to sit and think about all the possible ways he could react when I do see him and tell him that it's over. Like to consider all options - him getting very upset and crying, him screaming and getting angry... him trying to kiss me and talk me round.. him promising to change everything.. all sorts of things. That way it is unlikely that something will take me by surprise, and I'll be prepared for most things and know that even though I feel very emotional and want to give in I was expecting to feel this way and know how to deal with it. Does that make sense?

    It's very easy to think like this now though when he's not sat in front of me trying to manipulate the situation!

    The exam went really well today by the way so I'm feeling positive in that respect. Now to prepare for tomorrow!

    I am also planning on getting back into belly dancing by the way and doing a few performances at some point, something he would never let me do before!

    Really grateful for all your help still, I know I couldn't be thing positive without you and Kit helping me along. Thanks x
  • Jun 11, 2010, 10:09 AM
    eveamee09

    Thank you yes, much better! Up and down but better for now!

    By the way, I forgot to mention that he told me he knew the password for my hotmail account, so he had been reading all the emails that you and I have sent each other, positiveparent. At first I was angry but then a little relieved as I hoped that he had got the message after reading what I've said to you about definitely wanting to break up with him. Unfortunately though he didn't seem to have accepted that point and still believes that I don't mean it, which is a bit of a worry as he appears to be very much in denial. Anyway, I am sorry if this has angered you as I know what we say to each other should be private, but unfortunately there is not much I could've done about it as I didn't know he had the password.

    I have obviously changed the password now by the way and am sure he won't be able to see anymore.
  • Jun 11, 2010, 10:17 AM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by eveamee09 View Post
    Thank you yes, much better! Up and down but better for now!

    By the way, I forgot to mention that he told me he knew the password for my hotmail account, so he had been reading all the emails that you and I have sent eachother, positiveparent. At first I was angry but then a little relieved as I hoped that he had got the message after reading what I've said to you about definitely wanting to break up with him. Unfortunately though he didn't seem to have accepted that point and still believes that I don't mean it, which is a bit of a worry as he appears to be very much in denial. Anyway, I am sorry if this has angered you as I know what we say to eachother should be private, but unfortunately there is not much I could've done about it as I didn't know he had the password.

    I have obviously changed the password now by the way and am sure he won't be able to see anymore.



    He sounds like a total out of control fruitcake. Get a restarining order !
  • Jun 11, 2010, 10:22 AM
    positiveparent

    At least its good to know that you've at least got the handle on knowing what thinking positive is, many of the women I counsel in a woman's aid refuge don't have a clue, and think that they are positive thinkers, its such an eye opener to them when they finally catch on to what Positive Thinking really is.

    So you're streets ahead already, it sounds to me like you've got a very sensible and realistic head on your shoulders already, and that's great.

    You're going to become one wise woman Katie Congratulations.

    I assume with your taking psychology you'll go into counselling/psycho analysis etc? Well seems to me you're taking the right degree, and consider this experience as another learning curve, like a hands on experience.

    Life is one long lesson, just when you get it in one area another experience comes along and you then have to get that one, and the next and so it goes on.

    If I had known 10 years ago what I know now I couldve ruled the world. LOL

    Also remember whatever hurts you most makes you stronger.

    If you want any psychology papers, thesis, methods etc, Ive got a ton, from Gestalt, to Jung to Frued, I can send you them no problem.

    Have to admit though all the psychology degrees in the world won't prepare a person for some of the lessons life throws at us, but having knowledge in this area can and does help one get through them.

    You're doing good.
    Keep On Keeping On.

    Just read your latest post here, Im not bothered about him reading anything Ive sent to you, its true so no problem, but let that be another red flag to you he's invading your privacy that's typical of a control freak, Ill send you details later of an email that is very private free and encrypted,so if you get one of them he will have no hope of hacking into it, inform hotmail he's hacked your account I would.
  • Jun 11, 2010, 10:29 AM
    eveamee09

    Thanks, that's very useful information, and I'll bear that in mine about the papers you've mentioned, especially Freud's stuff as he is definitely very interesting! Yes I'm doing a Psychology Degree, am at a good University too so really enjoying it! My plan is to branch into Clinical eventually, but I'm fully aware of how competitive it is and that it can take years and years to get onto the PhD course. Have done quite a bit of work experience though (in care homes and with children etc, also just did a very helpful counselling course which was good) so am staying hopeful! Did you do a degree in Psychology then, or have a career in that area? Counselling for Woman's Aid must be an absolutely amazing experience, but also very difficult.. I envy somebody who has the strength to cope with that!

    And you're right, it's hard to apply things to your own life situations when you're the one who's actually going though them.. advising others is so much easier as I'm sure you know!
  • Jun 11, 2010, 10:34 AM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by positiveparent View Post
    At least its good to know that youve at least got the handle on knowing what thinking positive is, many of the women I counsel in a womans aid refuge dont have a clue, and think that they are positive thinkers, its such an eye opener to them when they finally catch on to what Positive Thinking really is.

    So youre streets ahead already, it sounds to me like youve got a very sensible and realistic head on your shoulders already, and thats great.

    Youre gopng to become one wise woman Katie Congratulations.

    I assume with your taking psychology youll go into counselling/psycho analysis etc? well seems to me youre taking the right degree, and consider this experience as another learning curve, like a hands on experience.

    Life is one long lesson, just when you get it in one area another experience comes along and you then have to get that one, and the next and so it goes on.

    If I had known 10 years ago what I know now I couldve ruled the world. LOL

    Also remember whatever hurts you most makes you stronger.

    If you want any psychology papers, thesis, methods etc, Ive got a ton, from Gestalt, to Jung to Frued, I can send you them no problem.

    Have to admit though all the psychology degrees in the world wont prepare a person for some of the lessons life throws at us, but having knowledge in this area can and does help one get through them.

    Youre doing good.
    Keep On Keepin On.




    Katie... I will be your first patient. I'm sitting here with my grandsons watching VHI classic videos. My sweeties are on the floor laughing their butts off because I like David Bowie.. "Space Odyssey".

    There are a few I will not watch nor do I let them watch. I love Bono and Pink Floyd... Oh well.. you all have a good weekend and here is a BIG HUG to you both. Katie get some garlic and a cross to put on your door... Kidding... Kit
  • Jun 11, 2010, 10:37 AM
    eveamee09

    Haha that sounds like lots of fun, I'm glad you are enjoying yourself! Thank you, have a wonderful weekend too with your Grandsons and hugs back to you as well. I do think you are rather sane though so not sure you'll be needing anybody's help! Hehe enjoy xx
  • Jun 11, 2010, 10:39 AM
    positiveparent

    Yes I did the degree course, for 5 years start to finish didn't go on for the Doctorate, but got the B Sc, in it. I counsel women who have left violent relationships, on a voluntary basis for now, I may go into it on a more full time basis when my youngest is in full time education, or at least the hours he will be at school.

    Hes 4 now so will have to make up my mind soonish LOL...

    I also have first hand experience of being in a violent relationship so that really helps, both myself and the women, they at least know I have been there so Im not just quoting from a text book.

    I also spend time on myself everyday ensuring I stay positive and focused in my outlook to life and its situations.

    Yes not responding immediately is very good and it will help you deal with your own emotions and how to control them or put them to effective use as opposed to destructive.

    I knew you were on the road to becoming a wise woman. Yep...
  • Jun 11, 2010, 10:55 AM
    eveamee09

    Wow you have done so much.. counselling vulnerable women like that must be a very helpful and also rewarding thing to do, especially when you know that you've helped them through a difficult time and supported them so much that it's given them the strength to move forward. It's odd that we're both doing the same type of degree, I'd never have expected it! And your son must be so gorgeous, it will be weird for you when he starts school and isn't home all the time!

    Yes, having been involved in the same thing that you're advising people about really is good. It's annoying when you talk to people sometimes who think they know exactly how you're feeling and exactly what you should do when really they have no idea as they've never been through anything remotely similar. That's why this site is so good as most of the people giving advice here have also been through a difficult break-up, or worse, so can give good and meaningful opinions.

    Right I had better actually get on with some revision otherwise I'll never make it as a Psychologist! Tomorrow is the Psychology in Context exam so there's a lot of Developmental and History in their.. Freud will be mentioned! Speak soon :)
  • Jun 11, 2010, 11:11 AM
    positiveparent

    Kat I envy you having Grankids, my eldest Son is Married but they don't plan on having any babies, she's too career minded and has no intentions of birthing out any grankids for me, woe, she's italian too, that's a turn up for the books, an Italian with no desire for babies, Drat, I felt sure Id have a ton of them.

    Ive got 2 more Sons though ages 13 and 4 so maybe in the future, just hope Im not too old by then to enjoy them, I quite like the idea of spoiling them rotten LOL...
  • Jun 11, 2010, 11:29 AM
    Kitkat22

    My joy, my heart and my world is my family. God blessed me beyond anything I could ever imagine. My husband is the best thing that ever happened to me.

    My children and grandcchildren... there's nothing I could ever say to thank the Lord enough. There will be grandchildren in your life.. wait and see.. . Hugs... Kit

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