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  • Dec 23, 2007, 09:12 PM
    aiyerrc
    I'm just saying its been a long time since we have talked on the phone. If I don't call her, she usually calls me. We talk at least once a day when we were at school... no tala, she doesn't have to call me too, but it would be nice, you know?
    \
    I'm trying to accomplish getting her interest lvl raised back up, because I fear it may be diminishing. She called me twice over the break because I didn't call her that day and that was great. But since Thursday, she hasn't initiated any contact between us, which is 2 days longer than we have ever gone wihtout phone contact.

    God I hate xmas break...

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J_9
    Sorry, I don't mean to butt in here, but it seems as though you are really lonely without her, and that's okay. But it IS the holidays, and she MAY want to spend time with her family.

    Is there a reason that you need day-to-day contact with her? Are you so uncomfortable in your relationship that you must talk to her daily? (Yes, I read the thread about her and her ex and lunch)

    You see, women like me see men like that as needy. We don't want men who are needy. We want men who can stand on their own two feet and do what they need to do without approval from us.

    A strong woman does not want, nor need, a weak man. Keep your distance, it's Christmas. She will appreciate you more when she gets back. There will be more to talk about. Give her space and don't smother her.

    Yea I totally get what your saying but the day to day contact was a norm until about 4 days ago. I'm just wondering what has changed since then you know?

    Should I just stop texting altogether now tooo? Just a merry xmas?
  • Dec 23, 2007, 09:17 PM
    George_1950
    Maybe you will understand this: total silence
  • Dec 23, 2007, 09:18 PM
    J_9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by aiyerrc
    yea i totally get what ur saying but the day to day contact was a norm until about 4 days ago. im just wondering what has changed since then ya know?

    Christmas has changed everything. She may be busy with family, visiting relatives, etc...

    Give the gal a break... if you want to text her merry christmas, then do so, but don't expect a response, and don't be hurt if you don't get one.

    Give the gal a little breathing room over the holidays. Seems you are very needy and she is not. You could be turning her off if you keep it up.
  • Dec 23, 2007, 09:21 PM
    talaniman
    You do not have a life without her do you?
  • Dec 23, 2007, 09:27 PM
    J_9
    You know, I remember the day when there was not texting, no internet, and long distance was expensive as hell... Those were the days that relationships WORKED.

    Couples need some space from time to time. I have been with my husband for over 15 years and we still appreciate a little time alone, with friends or family.
  • Dec 23, 2007, 09:28 PM
    aiyerrc
    Hah, its really not that... I may be bored as hell being home over xmas break, and that's why I'm asking so much and seeming so desperate... also, I don't have a lot of experience in relationships, so I'm trying to do everything right, which is impossible I know, but its hard not to try...

    All I really want right now is by January 10th, we are still together, and I have other things that can take away my focus from her.

    Like I've said before, I overworry about things and I make something out of nothing. I don't want to come to her yet, or at all with my insecurites, so I come here with them
  • Dec 23, 2007, 09:48 PM
    little firefly
    Quote:

    Christmas has changed everything. She may be busy with family, visiting relatives, etc...
    I agree with J-9, with the holiday here she could just be really busy and not really have had the chance to call or talk to you. Try not to get yourself worked up and upset over it. I'm willing to bet that she's just swamped with so many other things right now. Don't let it dampen the holidays for you... Don't worry until you know for a fact that you have something to worry about.
  • Dec 23, 2007, 09:51 PM
    George_1950
    Well, yes; she could have three other boyfriends texting her the at the same time. And Ol St. Nick is on his way, too.
  • Dec 23, 2007, 10:18 PM
    talaniman
    Your putting too much focus on her, and not nearly enough on you.
  • Dec 25, 2007, 04:49 PM
    Matteus
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman
    I am so confused, if she answers your text, does she have to call on the phone too????????????? Explain to me whats going on here, and what your trying to accomplish. I would think a text aday is enough.

    I guess I know what's going on. She is a nice person, who respects the text sender, no matter who he is. But she is already annoyed from his wussy behaviour, to a point where every word he says, seems like a bomb in her hand, which she just can't handle. Do you know that feeling when, after you have eaten too much, even a small piece can make you vomit. Anyway, what I have seen and understood from his posts, he has a terrible wussy behaviour, always expecting for something from his girl, always being pushy, always wanting things to be "perfect" in his way, etc. And he still does it, even now. His mind thinks that, as the girl replied to his texts, is in somehow interested... what a fake... He should be doing not only NC, but also even forget even her name! These kind of these guys are really annoying. I mean, even a girl who wants everything from you, expects so much from you, makes you feel like vomitting and frustated.
  • Dec 25, 2007, 06:13 PM
    talaniman
    Wildcat use to say less is more, how true. Its very unhealthy to expect anyone to always be there for you 24/7. Its so important that she is part of your happiness, not the only thing that makes you happy. Relax some and stop trying to be so perfect.
  • Dec 25, 2007, 07:38 PM
    aiyerrc
    Matteus, you are more or less right on target, and that pretty much fulfilled what I had felt I was getting from her. I'm just kicking myself for screwing up royally, with a great girl. And now ever attempt I make to see if everything is normal with her, only drives that annoying nail for her in deeper. I'm just not going to contact her at all, whatsoever, because I know she could care less.IS THE RELATIONSHIP FULLY OVER? Because if it is, I want to just call her and end it, so I stop worrying about it. I want to end it on my terms, if it really is over for her and she hasn't broken up with me yet.
  • Dec 26, 2007, 08:48 AM
    talaniman
    You have a lot of personel issues to deal with. The bad part is you have no clue how she feels, but have assumed yourself into a frenzy. Can't you see that? This is all you tripping in your own head.
  • Dec 26, 2007, 09:26 PM
    LivingtheLifeinFLA
    Let her come to you, if she does she's interested, if she doesn't you are done.

    Frankly, if she didn't text you or call you on xmas you are more than done, no need to ever call, let her call you, if she does call and asks why you have been distant, tell her that you thought that she wasn't interested, then shut up and listen to her answer.

    Remember, the NC gets you to forget about her after time and move on. Just do it!
  • Dec 26, 2007, 10:31 PM
    kuulski
    If your GF asked you for space and you are expecting a call don't. You should enjoy yourself the best you can go out or with family. Relax and see what happens. Don't push it you will make it worst.
  • Dec 26, 2007, 11:05 PM
    aiyerrc
    We Broke Up.
    Hey guys

    LONG BUT PLEASE READ

    For all of you who have been following my insane posts over the past few weeks, tonight me and my ex broke up via phone. I didn't want to do it this way, but the idea of being confused and not knowing just got me too impatient...

    It was completely mutual, I pressed the subject, and she came out with it. She said she was going to wait until we got back to school, so we could talk in person, and I just couldn't wait until then, especially because I pretty much already knew the outcome.

    She said 2 of the last 3 nights we spent together before the break, she was trying to have sex, so she would see if that would make the relationship work out and bring us closer... unfortunately, because I was a virgin, I wasn't ready... looking back, she said it worked out for the best because if we would have done it, it would have only prolonged the inevitable, and made it that much harder when we did. Besides, if a 2 month relationship at 19 has to be saved by sex, then I'm not sure it would have saved anything at all. Plus, it would have been for all the wrong reasons.

    So it was a mutual breakup, and we agreed to be friends and not let this be the last night we spoke... we ended the conversatin with some joking around, and poking fun at each other. It felt so good to not have the pressure of being "in a relationship". We could just be ourselves. We agreed to meet over new years in atlanta, so she could give me my birthday present. I said yea thatd be nice, and we left it at that.

    As anxious and obsessed I may have seemed in my earlier posts, it was more me trying to figure out the situation than the fear of actually losing her as a girlfriend. Yes I am a bit hurt, but I already feel better just knowing that this is what we both kind of wanted. It wasn't a nasty breakup, and we laughed and joked around here and there.

    It just wasn't the right time for her to be in a relationship, nor was I ready to handle a relationship. She did cite that I may have pushed things a bit too hard too fast, but that most of the things I felt I needed weren't that outrageous. She just wasn't ready to give them to anyone, it didn't matter how much she liked me.

    We said we were going to remain close friends and still talk to each other, but of course many mutual breakups say that. I still do like her, and I'm just glad I finally got to understand the way she was eeing us, and that's all I ever really wanted. She said there may always be a chance of us being together, but at the current time, it just wasn't happening. We were trying too hard at a relationship that was barely even off its feet to begin with. When we were together, we were great together, but the true test of a relationship is how we acted when we were apart. I felt she acted the opposite, she felt I acted the opposite of how someone should act.

    I would sometime like to date her again, but I'm not holding my breath by any means. The part I will miss most about her will be all the superficial wrong reasons.. i.e. she's hot, she gives good "head", she's the envy of many other men around me, but like I said those are shallow and unimprtant reasons for a relationship.

    If we get back fine, I know I will understand how a relationship goes the second time around, but its just going to take her time that whatever knowledge I lacked, I made up for with care and affection.

    I know NC should be the way to go if I want to "get her back", but I don't even know if that's what I really want. I mean right now, when you lose something, you want to find it or get it back... thats human nature, especially, if you were fond of the particular item.

    Should I contact her and meet up with her for new years?
    Should I be friends with her? And hope she comes around by seeing me as a nonrelationship bound threat and a person she can once again have feelings for?
    Or should I just go completely NC and forget about her altogether?

    I know you may think I'm okay on the outside, but that's really not the case. I'm fine on the inside as well. I like her yes, but I'm not in love with her nor do I have any kind of infatuation with her. I would love to have another shot with her, but, like I said, I'm not going to hold my breath or wait for her.

    I would like to say thank you to all the people who took the time to write thoughtful and insightful responses, however many different times and ways I asked the same question. This really helped me transition through the breakup phase, probably more than even I know. Thank you especially, talaniman, matteus, cali, livinglife, george, phil, and anyone else I forgot for everything. I will continue to keep in touch..
  • Dec 27, 2007, 12:20 AM
    aboleth
    Well, if you're really OK with it, then good for you brother. You seem to be mentioning the possibility of being back with her, so I don't know if your heart is totally ready to let go. These things can get harder as people go on and see what the other person is doing in their life. I'm just saying this because I'd hate to see you torture yourself over the "might have beens".

    In any case, if you aren't missing her completely terribly right now, I'd stay on that path. I really would limit contact, to keep you from tossing yourself into an uncommited woman... believe me I know that pain...

    Anyhow, best of luck
  • Dec 27, 2007, 12:32 AM
    aiyerrc
    I just know, from how sincere she was, granted it was over the phone, that she really was hesitant to do it and that I may have forced what was probably going to inevitabley happen, but nonetheless, the breakup was good for us at this point and time. I may have rushed things a bit as a said, but she said I probably wouldn't have mattered how fast or slow I went because it just wasn't the right time for her to be in a relationship.

    The fact that it was mutual says a lot. I feel like going NC after saying we should see each other during new years would be a risk, but might work. On the other hand, she could have sugarcoated the breakup conversation, although as I said, she was sincere with her feelings, which she hadn't been the entire relationship.

    She told me I shouldn't be an obligation to her, and at this point in time, she didn't want to feel bad for wanting to go and hang out with her friends instead of me on a given night.

    I just realize she was very confused, and that's why we broke up.

    I really don't see it as false hope, because I'm technically not "hoping" for it. If we see each other again, dating, gf/bf, whatever that's awesome and I would give it another chance no problem, I just don't know the best way to let her go about it. Me staying in touch with her, and showing that I can handle seeing her as a friend, and us having fun and eventually leading back to a relationship, or NC, in other words ignoring her, which I have felt up to this point is not the way to go with this type of girl. She doesn't play games, she doesn't test you. She's a bit reserved with her feelings, and I am not, that's the only real difference we had.

    That is why this is a bit hard. If it were a nasty breakup, this would be a lot easier(well I haven't gone through one so I'm assuming) because I could have a reason to hate her. But it was such an amicable and normal conversation about something so serious, I feel it left room for it to be mended, and repaired, but just unaware of how long it would take

    You see what I'm saying?
  • Dec 27, 2007, 01:15 AM
    aboleth
    Yea I sure do. I think you're in a good place right now. I like the fact that you are able to say what was wrong with the relationship, and admit that it just may not be a good time for her to commit, without blaming yourself for it. That's a good emotional spot to be in, and shows a level of maturity about the whole thing.

    Sometimes people can be friends after a relationship. I don't see it happen so SOON after a relationship very often however. I'd be willing to bet that some emotions and talk about things would definitely happen over new years. So, I'd give it a bit of space, but that's me. If you can handle it, then awesome, your keeping yourself confidence and not taking a huge ego hit from this.
  • Dec 27, 2007, 01:20 AM
    aiyerrc
    I mean, to be completely honest, when she sees me over new years, and showing that I am comfortable being her friend first, then that is the way to go with her if something is to happen down the road as far as her and I go. I know her too well that the NC thing will only give her the impression "forget it" and she will completely ignore me. She's not the type, most girls will say they aren't, but few actually aren't, of girl that will chase after a guy is she is ignored by them... then again that could be a huge misconecption on my part so I just don't know. I spent our whole relationship chasing her, that I could never really see if she did any chasing! That's just what confuses me

    2 options:

    NC AT ALL

    Be friends with her, not her BFFAEAEAE, but her friend, plutonic first, then maybe a rekindled flame
  • Dec 27, 2007, 01:43 AM
    aiyerrc
    Where are all my little trolls when I need them? Lol
  • Dec 27, 2007, 02:07 PM
    aiyerrc
    Bumpity bump bump...
  • Dec 27, 2007, 02:39 PM
    kuulski
    I read this post and was all intense till you said "She gives Good Head" LOL! I almost fell out my seat. First question is You're a virgin how do u know? I am joking obviously Looks like you have your head on straight :>) Don't contact move on and see what else you find out there. I am sure if she wants to work it out or if u desire too down the road there won't be any issue with it because you guys seem to be handling the situation right.
    Good Luck
  • Dec 27, 2007, 03:16 PM
    aiyerrc
    Intercourse virgin lol... but yea, so you don't think I should contact her over the new years? Even though I said I would?
  • Dec 27, 2007, 03:43 PM
    Baby-_-Girl-_-19
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by aiyerrc
    hey guys

    LONG BUT PLEASE READ

    for all of you who have been following my insane posts over the past few weeks, tonight me and my ex broke up via phone. i didnt want to do it this way, but the idea of being confused and not knowing just got me too impatient...

    it was completely mutual, i pressed the subject, and she came out with it. she said she was going to wait until we got back to school, so we could talk in person, and i just couldnt wait until then, especially bc i pretty much already knew the outcome.

    she said 2 of the last 3 nights we spent together before the break, she was trying to have sex, so she would see if that would make the relationship work out and bring us closer...unfortunately, bc i was a virgin, i wasnt ready...looking back, she said it worked out for the best bc if we would have done it, it would have only prolonged the inevitable, and made it that much harder when we did. besides, if a 2 month relationship at 19 has to be saved by sex, then im not sure it would of saved anything at all. plus, it would have been for all the wrong reasons.

    so it was a mutual breakup, and we agreed to be friends and not let this be the last night we spoke...we ended the conversatin with some joking around, and poking fun at each other. it felt so good to not have the pressure of being "in a relationship". we could just be ourselves. we agreed to meet over new years in atlanta, so she could give me my birthday present. i said yea thatd be nice, and we left it at that.

    as anxious and obssessed i may have seemed in my earlier posts, it was more me trying to figure out the situation than the fear of actually losing her as a girlfriend. yes i am a bit hurt, but i already feel better just knowing that this is what we both kind of wanted. it wasnt a nasty breakup, and we laughed and joked around here and there.

    it just wasnt the right time for her to be in a relationship, nor was i ready to handle a relationship. she did cite that i may have pushed things a bit too hard too fast, but that most of the things i felt i needed werent that outrageous. she just wasnt ready to give them to anyone, it didnt matter how much she liked me.

    we said we were going to remain close friends and still talk to each other, but of course many mutual breakups say that. i still do like her, and im just glad i finally got to understand the way she was eeing us, and thats all i ever really wanted. she said there may always be a chance of us being together, but at the current time, it just wasnt happening. we were trying too hard at a relationship that was barely even off its feet to begin with. when we were together, we were great together, but the true test of a relationship is how we acted when we were apart. i felt she acted the opposite, she felt i acted the opposite of how someone should act.

    i would sometime like to date her again, but im not holding my breath by any means. the part i will miss most about her will be all the superficial wrong reasons..i.e. shes hot, she gives good "head", shes the envy of many other men around me, but like i said those are shallow and and unimprtant reasons for a relationship.

    if we get back fine, i know i will understand how a relationship goes the second time around, but its just going to take her time that whatever knowledge i lacked, i made up for with care and affection.

    i know NC should be the way to go if i want to "get her back", but i dont even know if thats what i really want. i mean right now, when u lose something, you want to find it or get it back...thats human nature, especially, if u were fond of the particular item.

    should i contact her and meet up with her for new years?
    should i be friends with her? and hope she comes around by seeing me as a nonrelationship bound threat and a person she can once again have feelings for?
    or should i just go completely NC and forget about her altogether?

    i know you may think im okay on the outside, but thats really not the case. i'm fine on the inside as well. i like her yes, but im not in love with her nor do i have any kind of infatuation with her. i would love to have another shot with her, but, like i said, im not going to hold my breath or wait for her.

    i would like to say thank you to all the people who took the time to write thoughtful and insightful responses, however many different times and ways i asked the same question. this really helped me transition through the breakup phase, probably more than even i know. thank you especially, talaniman, matteus, cali, livinglife, george, phil, and anyone else i forgot for everything. i will continue to keep in touch..

    Normally this isn't the way things are advised to go, but seeing as how it was mutual, and not a messy break up, I say just be friends with the girl, meet her for new years hang out with her, as long as its not going to be awkward for you.
    If you decide you want her back, then maybe just being friends with her will help you figure out what she needs in the relationship, posibly even what you need.
    If it makes any diffrence, I'm best friends with one of my ex's, and things work much better that way, it wasn't easy for us at first, but eventually things just fell into an easy routine.
    I hope some of what I said helps...
  • Dec 27, 2007, 03:47 PM
    aiyerrc
    But your not back together with that ex obviously... I just don't know if the reason I have taken this breakup so well thus far is because I have some glimmer of hope we will get back together, or I just really wasn't that invested in the whole relationship as much as I thought I was or may have appeared. I still think about her a lot, but its doesn't make me upset or sad.

    The way we left things after the BU, I think I should contact her, not because I'm going to beg and plead with her, but to show that being friends is okay and the relationship didn't effect me too bad.

    As people always say, NC is for me, and since I don't really know or think I need ME work, I shouldn't do NC... ill think about it sometime more over the next few days, but right now my plan is to call her as planned.
  • Dec 27, 2007, 03:51 PM
    kuulski
    Yea everybody is different I myself needed NC and I have been through multiple breakups this is the first time I have actually been able to maintain NC. Also me and my ex were together for 2 years so it is different. If you can handle it go for it. I know I couldn't :>)
  • Dec 27, 2007, 04:13 PM
    Baby-_-Girl-_-19
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by aiyerrc
    but your not back together with that ex obviously...i just dont know if the reason i have taken this breakup so well thus far is bc i have some glimmer of hope we will get back together, or i just really wasnt that invested in the whole relationship as much as i thought i was or may have appeared. i still think about her alot, but its doesnt make me upset or sad.

    the way we left things after the BU, i think i should contact her, not bc im going to beg and plead with her, but to show that being friends is okay and the relationship didnt effect me too bad.

    as people always say, NC is for me, and since i dont really know or think i need ME work, i shouldnt do NC...ill think about it sometime more over the next few days, but right now my plan is to call her as planned.

    You're right, I'm not back with that ex, I wouldn't have minded, he was a nice guy, treated me right, but we both reailzed that the relationship wasn't working, and salvaged what was left of a good friendship.
    Maybe the break up isn't bothering you so bad, because it was something you needed for yourself...
    No contact is good depending on the situation, you're not intending on begging for her back, you just want to be her friend, I say contact her... its better to be able to have a friendship with your ex, than have it be awkward every time you see her.
  • Dec 27, 2007, 04:22 PM
    talaniman
    Dude your going in circles. If the other posters would read ALL your posts, they would say the same thing. Its you who is confused and clueless.
  • Dec 27, 2007, 04:24 PM
    aiyerrc
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman
    Dude your going in circles. If the other posters would read ALL your posts, they would say the same thing. Its you who is confused and clueless.

    How can you say that? Going in circles? Can you elaborate? I have felt more clear and better today than I felt the entire break before we broke up...
  • Dec 27, 2007, 04:31 PM
    Baby-_-Girl-_-19
    Aiyerrc, I think he was talking about me...
  • Dec 27, 2007, 04:35 PM
    talaniman
    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/search.php?searchid=2209193

    The whole sordid mess.
    You due to insecurity and confusion, can't get along with this female, and get to tripping when she is away on holiday break, mind you everyone says be cool. You still get mad because she doesn't call/text enough, so you cool off text less and then break up. Now your wondering if you should call her for New Years and want her back. If that ain't a big circle?? You had the girl, and ran, now same day you want her back. Just so you know, she went along with you, and everything you said and agreed to break up because she figures that's what your crazy confused a$$ wanted. So now here we are again answering the same a$$ questions but a week later. Leave this female alone and get your head screwed on tighter before you run everyone crazy. Just my opinion, of course.
  • Dec 27, 2007, 05:47 PM
    talaniman
    Bumpity,bump,bump??
  • Dec 27, 2007, 07:05 PM
    aiyerrc
    Tal, you have got this story backwards... if you want to get technical she was going to break up with me when we got back from break... when she says something like," I was trying to have sex so maybe we could salvage a relationship that was less than 2 months in, then I'm pretty sure its over, especially because we didn't have sex... exactly what I thought she was going to do, do it in person because she didn't want to do it over the phone... but I was so fed up with being in lala land as far as her and me happily dating, I couldn't go through another day of waiting for her to breakup with me, WHICH SHE WAS GOING TO DO.

    She didn't just agree with everything I said, we understood each other point of views... yes I may have lost her because I pushed too much too fast, but the more I think about that, the more upset I will be... I may have lost her because I'm not experienced enough in a relationship, and while I hate the fact, it'll make me learn for the furture.. she wasn't ready for a relationship, especially with me, someone who was looking for something serious. Yes it may be my fault, but I'm happier now, broken up, than I was not knowing what to do at all at the point in the relationship that we were at...

    It was mutual, I'm satisfied... did I lose a good girl? Possibley... am I heartbroken? no... am I upset? Maybe a bit... am I confused anymore? Hell no... the only thing I'm trying to determine right now is what way to go in terms of NO CONTACT

    Tala, you are the most avid proclaimer of no contact is for yourself... well I feel better now than I have in almost a month... I don't need time for myself...

    Could she have been just blowing smoke up my a$$? Saying there may be a chance for us down the road? There's a good chance... but honestly, I want to stop worrying about every move I make towards her... we broke up mainly so I wouldn't have to do that anymore...
  • Dec 27, 2007, 07:05 PM
    aiyerrc
    By the way, that link goes nowhere...
  • Dec 27, 2007, 08:44 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    should I contact her and meet up with her for new years?
    Does this sound familiar, does it make sense after breaking up, TODAY, and going no contact??

    The link is fixed. Ooooops!
  • Dec 27, 2007, 08:48 PM
    talaniman
    Yes go no contact!
  • Dec 27, 2007, 09:03 PM
    aiyerrc
    The thing is though tala, I don't hate her, I don't love her, I'm not at a great loss over her, we broke up for good reasons... I had mine she had hers... was I willing to work on it as hard as I could? Yes, because I don't give up on things so easily, but that's besides the point. Being in a relationship was too difficult for us, and after it only being 2 months, and already this stressful, we both thought to oursleves, is this worth it?

    The only reason I would contact her is to show her that the breakup didn't really affect me... its not for a chance to get back together with her at the first chance. Its to show, I still would like to be an aquantince(sp?) of hers. NC would solve nothing, imo.

    Maybe, I'm just missing the point entirely... lol

    On a different note: is it weird, that I genuinely(sp?) don't feel upset at the breakup? Is it weird that I have felt less pressure and stress today than I have felt the last 3 weeks? Is it weird that no part of me wants to contact her at all? Maybe its shell shock, but I really doubt it...
  • Dec 27, 2007, 09:09 PM
    talaniman
    Relax and give it a week, then see how you feel. No need to do anything now right?
  • Dec 27, 2007, 09:23 PM
    aiyerrc
    Well, new years is in 4 days!! Lol

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