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  • Aug 23, 2007, 09:21 PM
    mckenzie134
    Im going to a party where my ex will be at next Saturday week and well I wasn't going toi go but why notr go have a good time hell she might see what a great time I'm having and want me back... probably not but ioll go its my friends birthday why should I not be there...

    I didn't thinkyou should go but you should go talk to oithers meet some other people have a good time what ever you do don't stay there don't let her con you show her yourve got other things to do...
  • Aug 24, 2007, 09:37 AM
    samesame
    Mckenzie, you are right and you shouldn't hide. But at the same time make sure you're strong enough to see her so you don't fall back down. And you need to keep self control so you don't do or say anything you might regret after (in other words easy on the alcohol). Like what if she's there with another guy? Just be careful, and hope for the best, but prepare yourself mentally for the worst.

    Cheers,
    Samesame
  • Aug 24, 2007, 10:34 AM
    Sandstorm99
    Boy oh boy. Prepare yourself for the worst. If she shows up with some guy that will set you back pretty hard.

    Samesame, Mckenzie. Look at all our stories. We were dumped, tried hard to get back with the ex for months, began no contact after 2 months or so. And no results. I was all about the strategy but we all have used the same strategy.
  • Aug 24, 2007, 11:00 AM
    talaniman
    The only strategy that counts is the one that allows you to heal, and think and act in your own behalf in a healthy way. The sooner you get the clouds of emotion out of your head, you can see things in a realistic way, and make solid, healthy decisions as to how to deal with what your going through. I think right now you are your own worst enemy and your shooting yourself in the foot, AGAIN. Sorry guy, it just if your going head long into a brick wall, at least wear a helmet. Reread McKenzie's post, and see how long it took him to put his helmet on. I mean no disrespect, to either of you.
  • Aug 24, 2007, 11:11 AM
    Sandstorm99
    I agree talaniman. I was all about strategy in winning her heart back. There is no strategy when it comes to getting a loved one to come back. But what I do see is that being their friend is tough/prolonging and doesn't help them make a decision. However no contact helps to clear your mind and maybe, just maybe will make them miss you.
  • Aug 24, 2007, 11:12 AM
    SAB123
    Mckenzie, You and I both came to this site about same time, I'm about a month healtheir then you. But I still don't ever want to see my ex with new guy. I know I'm not that good too see her with someone. So I would not go my friend.
  • Aug 26, 2007, 10:23 AM
    Sandstorm99
    So I went to the 2nd grad party. Boy did I feel strange. Ex met me outside and we went in and met everyone. It is hard to hug and converse with all the relatives when you think you may never see them again. They are all about hugs and I must have given probably 40 hugs when I got there. She hung out with me for quite some time but I started to realize that there wasn't much to talk about with her because she never asks about my life etc. Sometimes I felt as if she was disappearing every time we sat somewhere together. She kept switching locations she was sitting and even at one point asked me to pull a chair up with her. I can't describe how strange it was. She was looking as beautiful as ever. We ate together and talked a little bit. After a while one of her very good girlfriends showed up and she hung out with her for a while. I guess this is what you get when you come as "the friend". Maybe I was just overeacting but it started to feel as if it was time to leave. I didn't want to keep following her around like a lost kitten.

    I talked with her stepdad for a while, I didn't bring up anything about me and her. He said he noticed how when the girlfriend showed up she kind of disappeared to the kitchen for a while. I tried not to voice my opinion with him. He did say she is making a big mistake and one day she will realize what she has lost. He told me to never bail her out when she needs help. He said she is burning many bridges and just let her fall on her face. It is an odd feeling having all her family on my side. She doesn't really owe me much so I can't blame her for visiting with everyone else, including her best girlfriend. At one point while talking to her stepdad I felt the tears start to form and come to my eyes. I quickly stopped myself from allowing the tears to form. This is when I decided it was time to get the heck out of there. I told him I had to get going and started to say goodbye to everyone. I told the ex I was taking off and she actually gave me a frown suggestion. She asked if I was going to eat some of her cake. I said I had enough dessert. What I was really looking for was for her to ask me to stay. But she didn't ask and I didn't want to over welcome my stay. I was the ex and it was a very strange feeling. The whole party lasted for about 7 hours and I only stayed for 3.

    While saying goodbye her mother, brothers, stepdad etc asked why I never come vistit them or call anymore. Her brother even asked for my cell number and I told him my ex had it. In the back of my mind I was thinking "sorry i'm the ex, I can't hang out with you all anymore and I may never see you again". My ex made me an extra plate of food to take home and a bag of fruit. She gave me a hug goodbye and I told her to take care of herself. She said she would call me later. She said to be careful driving home. That was the first time I heard the "be careful driving" in a long time. Why be careful? I didn't have anything to drink besides water and pop.

    So I drove home wiping tears from my eyes. I probably shouldn't have gone to this 2nd grad party. Moral of ths story "you can't be friends with someone you still love deeply"

    She texted me later that night. Yes, a freakin text message. No phone call, just a text. It said "Thanks for coming, I hope you had fun". I let the text go for now. I didn't respond and I'm not even sure what I should respond with. I'm done calling her, I finally feel that I have tried everything I could besides asking her to give me one last chance. Not real sure If I should even text her back.
  • Aug 26, 2007, 08:35 PM
    samesame
    I think this is the perfect set of circumstances to make your exit. Leave it on a high note. Walk away and do absolutely NO CONTACT. It doesn't get a better time than this. You know it's not your place anymore. Keep your dignity and be strong.
  • Aug 27, 2007, 04:02 AM
    talaniman
    Not sure if you should text her back?? My friend its time to move on, and not hold on to a maybe anymore. If she cares that much, she will understand and if she really cares, she will find you. For now make your healing a priority.
  • Aug 27, 2007, 06:37 AM
    Sandstorm99
    Yes talaniman. I am my own worst enemy. You are very correct again. I texted her back 24 hours later and said "Yeah I had fun, Thanks for the the 2go food". She text back "no prob."

    I can officially say I'm done calling her and will not initiate any texts. Not really sure what to do when and if she calls me. I did 3 weeks of solid contact, initiated by me up until these grad parties. And now I'm completely cutting contact. I'm taking talanimans advice and going to heal.

    One question though for talaniman. You have been on here for quite some time offering loads of great advice. You are definitely about moving on/healing but do you ever think of strategies to win back someone that left you because they aren't sure how they feel? Or is it always best to cut contact and move ahead?

    You are absolutely correct though. They will find you if their feelings are strong enough.
  • Aug 27, 2007, 06:39 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    You are definitely about moving on/healing
    Sand, I absolutely think we make better decisions and take better action with a clear sober mind that is not clouded with emotions and fantasy. That's it in a nutshell, and if you read these threads, on this forum, you will find how blinded you become during, and after a relationship goes sour.
    Quote:

    But do you ever think of strategies to win back someone that left you because they aren't sure how they feel?
    I have probably tried every trick in the book, and have come to accept if they(partner) are confused, no on can read their mind or feelings, and we waste a lot of time trying. Get over your own confusion, and as you know who you are, you figure out what you want and how best to get it. Knowing yourself is a key to life and health, and being happy with yourself. Do you really think I would be married to Mrs Perfect, if I was still stumbling over past memories?? You never know what tomorrow brings, so get, and try to keep your own act together.
    Quote:

    Or is it always best to cut contact
    For your own health and happiness.
    Quote:

    Move ahead?

    Get over your bruised ego and hurt feelings, the sooner the better, because you have to be ready for what life brings and deal with it, from a position of health and being happy with yourself.
    Quote:

    They will find you if their feelings are strong enough.
    Them, or someone else??
  • Aug 27, 2007, 09:02 PM
    mckenzie134
    As you have been advised many times in the past let this one go mate... The sooner you let it go the sooner you will get your response and the ansewr you are looking for...

    I know you want to get her back but NO CHANCE AT THE MOMERNT nad with what you are doing NO HOPE Let her be let her go let her know what she is missing... No more parties NOPTHING
  • Aug 31, 2007, 07:14 AM
    Sandstorm99
    Ok. So about 4 days have gone by since the last text message episode. I have not initiated any contact to her. I used to contact her almost everyday for 3 weeks up until these parties. And I quite doing all that after the 2nd party. I'm sure she is wondering why I don't call her anymore. So yesterday I get a text out of the blue "did you get your car?"

    I had told her at one of the grad parties about a car I was getting. So now she is asking. I let the text go for about 8 hours. I replied with a simple vague "nope. long story" She replied asking a few other things and I kind of quit texting her back after her last reply. I am feeling much better than 2 months ago but part of me won't give up. Yes like most of us. I want her back but not sure If I should completely disappear. The tables have kind of turned because now out of nowhere I don't call her anymore like I did for the past month. She is the one initiating any conversation, but in the form of a text.

    Yes another simple text message. Does anyone think she is too shy like in the beginning of our relationship when we only talked on AOL? We used to chat for hours on the internet and I would call her sometimes. She was shy or something and didn't call me much. But after a while we called each other equally and got away from the internet chat. Yes, kind of a stupid question. Why would she be shy and not call me instead of text messages after we spent years together.
  • Aug 31, 2007, 07:25 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Why would she be shy and not call me instead of text messages after we spent years together.
    Your making an assumption about her shyness. Texting is really the easiest way to contact someone. Back off and be unavailable.
  • Aug 31, 2007, 07:39 AM
    samesame
    Yeah, I think Tal is right. And I think after 3 weeks, she got used to the attention of you contacting her and she's looking for it again. I don't know what the right thing to do here is, but if I was in your situation I would reciprocate, but just the way you are... vague simple (but polite) answers. But do not initiate contact yourself.
  • Aug 31, 2007, 08:01 AM
    Sandstorm99
    Yeah. Before when she would text me I would get all excited and call her. But she only sent a few texts in the past. I was the one who was always chasing her.

    I know contacting her first is out of the question. But I'm starting to wonder what would happen if I completely ignore these texts. I guess I'm worried that if I ignore a text she will become stubborn again.
  • Aug 31, 2007, 08:04 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    And I think after 3 weeks, she got used to the attention of you contacting her and she's looking for it again.
    I am leaning that way myself, she still wants to keep contact. I think the real issue is her motives and agenda. Either way Sandstorm, I think you would see things clearer, if you weren't so freshly hurt from the break up. Healing has to be a priority. Until that has been achieved, don't contact her, so work very hard on yourself.
  • Aug 31, 2007, 08:21 AM
    Sandstorm99
    talaniman agrees: I think she is used to the attention, but is he ready for friendzone??


    Friendzone. That sounds like a scary place I don't want to go.
  • Aug 31, 2007, 09:55 AM
    mckenzie134
    Sand STOP answering these messages. CUT ALL CONTACT!!

    IF she really wants you she willlet you know. She's feeding you biscuits at the moment and you munching themlike her puppy!! You are afraid if you don't reply she will become stuborn.. there you go worrying againwhat might happen instead of growing some balls and takimng control and saying hay I Won't REPLY I WILL DO WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD over and over and over again and I will totally disappear and if she does want me she will contact me! This stuborn crap is absolute rubbish if she I interested in you NOTHING will stop her friom trying to get you back! DO NOT ANSWER ANY TEXTS How many times do you have to listen to this... How long is this going to go o for!! Ill goive you the answer TILL SHE FINDS A NEW GUY AND THEN STOPS MESSAGING YOU MATE!!
    So why keep answering and let her have you till then.. HOW STUOID OF YOU< Don't LET HER HAVE YOU AND DRAG YOU ALONG< TAKE A CHANCE Don't REPLY AT ALL! WAIT TILL SHE WRITES I WANT YOU BACK AND TILL THEN ITS OVER!!
  • Aug 31, 2007, 10:05 AM
    Sandstorm99
    Yes she is throwing me bisquits. I'm not eating them right away but ,I'm letting them sit on the floor for half a day or more and then eating them. I will continue to listen to you all. I'll stop eating those bisquits.

    Does backing off and being unavailable involve ignoring these text messages completely?

    Mckenzie. You originally advised me to be vague and answer the texts late with short answers. I haven't contacted her one bit and she is texting me. I have let her texts go for half a day or more before I respond.
  • Aug 31, 2007, 10:08 AM
    samesame
    I'm confused at that to. I think u have to realize when you're being played and when she has interest. The other thing is the contraditory advice I see. People say no contact and they will come back, and then when people post that their ex came back people say to move on. I know moving on is the right choice in many circumstances, but it can't be for all. You can't be blind, deaf and dumb because of stubbornness to what could be a second chance.
  • Aug 31, 2007, 10:34 AM
    samesame
    That being said you can't let the hope rule your life to only bring you false hope and dissapointment or stagnation. And in a break, space is important.. NC space. All I'm saying is that it's not always black and white when it comes to love/relationships. There is a big grey area, and that's why no one has it figured out.
  • Aug 31, 2007, 11:22 AM
    Sandstorm99
    I guess I should look back on how this all played out. I contacted her for weeks on end and didn't really get anywhere besides went to some grad parties and nothing really happened. I was her friend and she didn't really ask about my life. Now I'm not contacting her and acting super mysterious. She is texing me now and I'm replying late. I guess take this to the next level and cut contact until she actually tries harder. She has never really had a long period of not talking to me. Like mckenzie has said, she has never been able to feel the void. I also need to heal more and clear my mind.

    Just got a few more texts from her today. Saying something about some sandwich I recommended months ago. I only replied to one of them. Yes mckenzie, shoot me. The roles have really reversed here. I have made no attempt at contact and she has been reaching out hoping I will call her. Or maybe she is throwing bisquits.

    I was going to mail my cell phone to my uncle for a few months so I could get away from it. Wish I did that now.

    SameSame. You were 100% correct about doing absolutely no contact after the 2nd graduation party. Leaving on a high note.

    Talaniman,mckenzie. Very correct. I should have backed off and been unavailable.

    Well after that 2nd grad party about 1 1/2 weeks went by when I didn't contact her. She had texted me a few times for about 3 days, as I posted about before. Well I was talking with my sister in law on labor day and she said she ran into my ex at her work. Oh brother! She asked my ex why we weren't together etc. I wish my relatives would stay out of my life. The sister in law didn't really know any details about my break up, so she took it on her own to ask my ex. And I should know better than to listen to a sister in law. My sister in law said my ex isn't seeing anyone, and she wants me to make some changes with my trust issues etc. The sister in law told me I'm being too stubborn and my ex really misses me and wants me to chase her. My ex never told my sister in law that she wanted me to chase her, this was an assumption. Sister in law suggested having a serious talk with my ex and lay it on the line. To tell her that I'm moving on if she doesn't want to get back together. Why in the world did I even think that would be a good idea?? Sister in law didn't know about how I've been trying to get back together.

    So you guessed it, I called the ex and said I needed to have a serious talk with her. 1 1/2 weeks after that 2nd grad party when I should have done no contact 100%. She said "yes, that is fine. will it be ok when I get off work?" I replied "sure"

    So we met up at my place. I just came out and told her I miss her, she replied and said she misses me too. I asked when she missed me the most after we broke up. She told me she missed me the most after the 2nd graduation party. That's right, the 2nd grad party when I should have left on a high note and did absolutely no contact. Why was I even thinking the sister in law had a good plan. I asked my ex how she has been feeling about us and she said for some reason she thinks about the bad things. Arguments we had before etc which were only about 1% of all the things we experienced. I tried explaining to her that the bad things were only a tiny part of all we have experienced. She named some of the bad things and I should have just agreed. But I had to explain why all this happened and back myself up. Such as when I was sick for a year and she was taking way too many hours at school. This was for the last year of our relationship and pushed us to this break up. And times when I got mad and acted out.

    I just came out and asked her if we could get back together. She replied with a nice "no". I said I have been waiting and waiting since we broke up and I've been trying and trying. I told her I give up. I'm done trying and I don't care anymore. She said that I never really gave her time to herself, she is correct. The longest we didn't talk was about 2 weeks. I told her that I was trying to be her friend and that it is impossible to be her friend. She said she would only get back together if she was certain.

    I asked if she had to see other guys in order to be certain and she said she was concentrating on her career and wasn't even thinking about dating right now. She said she has no idea when she will become certain if we should be together. She said it could take a year and that she doesn't know what is going to happen. And she said she feels bad and doesn't want me waiting around for her. And said that wouldn't be fair for me to wait. She said if you waited and we didn't get back together then that would be very cruel. I asked how she would feel if I had a serious girlfriend and she decided she wants to get back together. She said she would feel horrible and regret letting me go.

    I recapped and asked what is the main thing that is keeping us from getting back together. She said she needs to be certain that we are meant for each other. I held her hand while we were standing at the door and told her again that I have tried so hard to make this work, I've changed many things about myself and that I have waited too long. I told her I'm giving up and that I'm losing one of my best friends. She had tears in her eyes which started to roll down her face. I told her that I have officially given up and that I can't be her friend anymore. She said she understands. I finished it by saying that " I'm going to continue to improve myself and i've lost all hope for us, I give up."

    I'm done trying

    THE END.
  • Sep 8, 2007, 02:01 PM
    Jiser
    Good!!
  • Sep 8, 2007, 02:32 PM
    Sandstorm99
    I regret having this needy conversation. I must of seemed so needy and pushed her even further away. I don't think it was good. What I am sure about is that I should have listened to everyone's advice and never had this final conversation.

    Now I'm just mad at myself for having such a talk.
  • Sep 8, 2007, 03:23 PM
    Jiser
    What's done is done. The past is nothing but in your head now. Reality is now. Stick to NC and let the emotional dust settle.
  • Sep 8, 2007, 07:57 PM
    pinkrazr
    Hi Sandstorm,

    I am dealing with the same situation where my ex (bf of 5 years) broke up with me and told me that he isn't in love with me anymore basically out of nowhere. I have reason to believe that he suffers from depression, because of the constant flux of emotion, stress/anxiety, and pushing away those you love. However, unlike your ex, who contacts you, mine refuses to talk to me or maintain any contact with me at all.

    Just like you, I value the relationship tremendously and want to give him the time he needs, yet let him know I'm there for him. Looking back on everything that you went through, do you have any advice for me?

    Thanks!
  • Sep 8, 2007, 11:14 PM
    mckenzie134
    Well, you can take as much advice as you want but in the end you will make your own decision. That is the reason why talking to no one and pretending to move on or at least try and be happy and not mention your ex to anyone is a good idea. Cone on mate the problem with discussing the situation with others, especially females!! They don't know the story they are just going off what they think they wuld want a guy to do if they were in the situation. Most girls say I want him to chase me and so fourth when this is not what they really want they ant a man who is in charge and is the winning prize someone they want to chase after. Why should you run after them, there are millions of guys chasing girls be the odd one out have the girl want you thatis how it works. PRIZE PRIZE!!

    You're the catch she is losing THE BEST FRIEND!!

    Don't listen to people who do not know about relationships , most times people menion thing to say their mums or sisters and they say things like well it wasn't meant to be or she wasn't the one or get her some flowers tell her your sorry!!

    WRONG~!! You did nothing wrong except suck up!! If she doesn't want you GOOD ridance she looses and if she is an honest and great girl she will realise this!!

    You give total NO contact now no more oping no more listening no more discussingf!! She may now send you a message saying hope you feel OK. ITS OVER MATE!!
  • Sep 9, 2007, 03:38 PM
    Sandstorm99
    Yes Mckenzie. I saw the sister in law today and told her that what she thought was a good idea was completely idiotic. I must have come across as so needy and helpless to my ex. All of this has probably pushed her even further away. I have no reason to contact her anymore. I said I give up and I mean it, I have finally set my mind free of the urge to keep trying. She left with tears in her eyes and she really has lost her best friend. The best friend that always was there for her no matter what time of the day. The best friend who took her out to eat all the time and paid, the best friend who rubbed her legs, back and bum every night.

    Pinkrazr. I always thought I could find a reason but you will never read their mind. Don't even try. My advice is to not call them and disappear. Steer clear of their family and relatives. Act like you don't care and make sure your family members stay the F out of it. Most of us on here speak through experience learned the hard way. I should have listened to all the advice given a few pages back here.

    Look at samesame, mckenzies and my stories. Do the opposite
  • Sep 9, 2007, 03:43 PM
    Jiser
    NC is for the best, if your in communication with the ex is best to get out now. When you do nothing then nothing can be done to make it any worse!
  • Sep 10, 2007, 03:06 PM
    samesame
    Sounds like progress Sandstorm, but it also sounds like you're running on frustration which is making you stronger now. Be careful for the wiplash/withdrawl that could come after when those feeling subside. You could start questioning what your choices now in a couple of days and fall back into the same mess of heartache and self pity because the realization that she's never coming back sets in. Hopefully it doesn't come to that in your case, but that's what happened to me. Still a rollercoaster. Today I heard some things about her and what she's doing and it's been the worst day since the break up. Stay strong bud and hang in there!
  • Sep 11, 2007, 08:16 AM
    Sandstorm99
    Well samesame. You were correct about when I should have done absolutely no contact. You see she missed me the most after the 2nd grad party. I found it strange she missed me more after the 2nd party versus right after we broke up. I was calling her all the time up until that party so it didn't make sense. I wish I had listened to you all.

    Yes I did get some answers and I have nothing else to try. I regret having the conversation and should have let it be after the 2nd party. The tears in her eyes threw me off because I always thought she was over all of this. I don't call her anymore and she doesn't call me. No more texts, but it is better this way.

    I know what you mean about hearing about the ex and having it bother you. I've become rather good friends with my exes cousin and for some reason he thinks there is a better chance than I think. He always says how much respect she has for me and how highly she speaks of me. She told him recently that I was the only one that was always there for her. I'm not going to get my hopes up anymore. He always wants to hang out but I need to disconnect from anyone that is close to her. I'd rather just quit talking to him because eventually my ex will use him to find out what I'm up to. I'd rather not let her know what I am doing and I don't want to know what she is up to.
  • Sep 11, 2007, 10:58 AM
    samesame
    That's a tough situation you are in with the cousin but you have to take care of yourself now, and the easiest and right way to do it (and I say that lightly because there is nothing easy about any of this), is to cut off anything related/reminding of her. For your own health and well being. Curiousity and your thoughts are hard enough to wrestle without the negative effect of constant reminders. Do it now and start counting the days of progress... day by day, then week, by week, and so on.. . Like I said before it's a long road. I'm 5 - 1/2 months broken up and 2 months of No Contact and overall I am better, but her and this situation still has a huge influence on me. Yesterday when I heard about her I was so nervous I was shaking and useless the entire day. I couldn't believe it. Anyway, it just means more time is needed. If you sincerely loved and cared for this girl (like I did and do mine), from what I hear, I'm guessing 6 months before it starts to really get easier. Unless you meet someone new. But I know with me, I have no serious interest in any other girl right now.

    But anyway, forget about the past. What's done is done. Today is a new day and a chance to do things the way you want. Make a plan and stick with it.

    Let us know how it goes. All the best!
  • Sep 11, 2007, 11:12 AM
    talaniman
    Best to limit contact with her cousin for a while.
  • Sep 16, 2007, 04:54 PM
    Sandstorm99
    Thanks tal. I'll limit my contact with her cousin.

    Samesame. Yes things are starting to set in pretty good. Rather bummed out and low for the past few days. I think it has been about 10 days since that serious talk. 10 days of not talking but I'm going to quit counting. I have no reason to call her anymore.

    I left this part out from the serious talk night. So when we had that serious talk the one night. She went out to eat with her girls afterwards and I forgot to have her get her bag of pictures. So I had called her that night when I had the serious talk to have her stop by on the way home to get them. Well what did she do. She called me after she passed my exit on the highway and asked if she could get them another day. I was a little aggravated because I didn't want her to have to come get them later down the road. I didn't want to give her a reason to contact me. I felt that the night of the serious talk was the last I'd have to see her. So I could begin 100% no contact to heal.

    Well fast forward 10 days up until now. 10 days have gone by with zero contact. I get a text today from her. It is obvious I have a long road ahead of me. Just seeing her name in a text bothered me. I was actually afraid to open the text to see what it said. I opened it and it read "I just remembered that I haven't gotten my pics. Can u leave them on the front porch and i'll get them? I have 2 of ur belts that I'll leave for you."

    I was going to completely ignore it but I didn't want to seem like some idiot that wouldn't give her stuff back. I need these things out of my place so I can ignore any attempts at contact. I simply replied with "Do you really need them right now?"
    She replied "No. I have to work at 3 and thought I could grab them today. Just let me know when u can put them out please. Thanks."

    I've left it here. I didn't reply to the 2nd message and I'm not sure if I want to. I need to get these things to her but I don't want to act like I'm just sitting around my house doing nothing. Which is actually the reality right now. I was thinking of just dropping them off at her moms so I don't have to reply to her anymore. And telling her mom that I was up their way for work and wanted to drop them off. She doesn't live with her mother so I won't have to see her. Does this sound like a good idea? Leave them at her moms and don't even bother texting my ex back? I honestly don't want to even give her the short moment of happiness of stepping in my yard.
  • Sep 17, 2007, 08:39 AM
    samesame
    I think u might be complicating a simple thing here. Put her stuff in a box and mail it. And/or, just text her and say I'm going to be away or out and your stuff is on the porch, come and pick it up. The end.
  • Sep 24, 2007, 09:19 AM
    Sandstorm99
    Well I decided to take her stuff to her mothers. That way I don't have a reason to contact(text) her. So I ended up contacting her mom to let her know I'll be up their way and that I have some things to drop off for the ex. The ex doesn't live with her mom but always visits. I just thought I would quickly drop the belongings off and be on my way real quick. Boy was I wrong.

    Her mom calls me that day to make sure I'll be there soon and said something about dinner. "dinner?" What was I getting myself into again. I thought I was going to just drop this stuff off but her mom wanted me to have dinner with her and her step dad. I couldn't be rude so I had to eat dinner with them. I even had to take her mom to the pizza shop to pick up the food. I did my best to not ask or talk about my ex but her mom brought up that she doesn't know what her daughter is thinking and that she is making a mistake. I just told her mom that I give up and I don't care anymore. Her mom kept saying how it doesn't make sense that she isn't dating anyone. I told her mom that it is only a matter of time.

    This was all a bad idea. I sat with her mom and step dad and ate pizza. They said how my ex said my place was peaceful and that it is annoying at her dad's where she lives. I was doing my best to not ask any questions about the ex. I had to steer the conversation and started asking tons of questions about their lives. Then we talked a little about what I've been up to but I did my best to be vague. She also mentioned that I didn't wish my ex happy birthday a day ago but I told her mom I didn't forget and that we don't really talk anymore so there was no reason to.

    Then I find out that my exes grandmother passed away about 6 days before this. Which was about 1 week after my needy conversation with her. Her mother couldn't believe that my ex didn't tell me but my ex told her mom that she didn't want to bother me. So now I know that my exes grandmother has passed away and I'm not sure if I should tell my ex sorry. I did my best to get out of the ex's moms house. For some reason they never tell me that we will get back together and work things out. I guess I'm looking for hope but they might know more than I do. I was there for about 2 hours and they were very sad to see me go. It was very painful being there because her mom had tons of pictures of my ex that were all there staring at me. Very painful.

    I got a text from my ex later that night that said "thanks for dropping the stuff off, you didn't have to go out of your way" I didn't want to reply to that statement but now my ex knows that I knew her grandmother passed away. I didn't know what to do. My mom suggested not even saying anything about the grandmother but I felt that death was the only reason I would reply. So I replied and hour later with "very sorry to hear about your grandmother. Hope everything is ok." She replied "thanks."

    So here I sit today. Me and the ex don't talk anymore. I haven't initiated one text or phone call with her since about 20 days ago when I had the needy conversation that I still hate myself for. Yeah she has texted me about these darn belongings but I simply tried to avoid texting back and took them to her moms. Only to find out her grandmother passed away. It would bother me I guess to not tell her sorry. So I guess it has been 20 days of no contact, not sure if this light text contact counts. I thought I was getting better but today sucks pretty bad. Trying to keep busy but my motivation is shot. I feel as if I'll never find someone I can trust as I did her and as beautiful and funny as her. I've had many past girlfriends and a lot to compare her to. It feels like she will be very hard to replace and that I won't ever have the same feelings for anyone else again. She kind of messed me up permanantely. Like the thought of her will always haunt me whether sleeping, dating or working in the future.

    The tough part about all this is that I don't hate her. It would be much easier if the breakup ended with an argument. I can't convince myself that she isn't the one for me. I can't find any faults with her to make me let go. Yes I have given up trying, I won't be calling her ever again. But I can't find a way to destroy that little bit of hope that sits in the back of my head. Feels like I will never move on. I think it is easier when someone dies because you know for sure they won't be back. This is still the worst feeling I have experienced. That darn hope keeps telling me there will be a part 2.
  • Sep 24, 2007, 09:33 AM
    talaniman
    Join the club my friend, as we all feel that way. You will have to work hard to have new memories, new friends and new experiences. You have to build a new attitude, with a new out look, and a new perspective. A lot of new stuff I know, and you will still have the old memories, but not as fresh and overwheming as they are now. Quite a challenge if you think about it that way. In time (and a lot of effort) you will get there. For insights check out the links in my signature.
  • Sep 24, 2007, 10:22 AM
    samesame
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sandstorm99
    So here I sit today. Me and the ex don't talk anymore. I haven't initiated one text or phone call with her since about 20 days ago when I had the needy conversation that I still hate myself for. Yeah she has texted me about these darn belongings but I simply tried to avoid texting back and took them to her moms. Only to find out her grandmother passed away. It would bother me I guess to not tell her sorry. So I guess it has been 20 days of no contact, not sure if this light text contact counts. I thought I was getting better but today sucks pretty bad. Trying to keep busy but my motivation is shot. I feel as if i'll never find someone I can trust as I did her and as beautiful and funny as her. I've had many past girlfriends and a lot to compare her to. It feels like she will be very hard to replace and that I won't ever have the same feelings for anyone else again. She kind of messed me up permanantely. Like the thought of her will always haunt me whether sleeping, dating or working in the future.

    The tough part about all this is that I dont hate her. It would be much easier if the breakup ended with an argument. I can't convince myself that she isn't the one for me. I can't find any faults with her to make me let go. Yes I have given up trying, I won't be calling her ever again. But I can't find a way to destroy that little bit of hope that sits in the back of my head. Feels like I will never move on. I think it is easier when someone dies because you know for sure they won't be back. This is still the worst feeling I have experienced. That darn hope keeps telling me there will be a part 2.

    I feel exactly the same way.
  • Sep 24, 2007, 11:29 AM
    smoothy
    Personally, I've dated women like this in the past... best thing I did was to get up the courage to walk out of their life. Life has enough challenges without drama queens that aren't sure what they want in life. Trust me its familiarity that makes it hard to walk away, we all have experienced it. Easiest thing to do is find another to date and in time you will feel these feelings for her fade. They may never go away completely. You may get lucky and find a woman without her bad qualities. That will make the transition easier.

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