Ask Me Help Desk - Zodiac matching

Ahhh astrology. The product of the collision between statistics and the human mind.

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Originally Posted by rol

ahh kaitou...go and help this guy out hes a genini dating a scorpio girl ;-)
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/relati...ind-71473.html

LOL rol, but I don't think I can help though hahaha..

All I can say is, I don't think I'll ever date gemini again. We scorpians tend to dive right into the relationship, and gemini tip toe to go in, and pull out very quickly.

I'm quite sad to hear aries and scorpio don't match though LOL, according to the site I went to, they match pretty well :confused:

Yeah its strange as I get on very very well with aries also as friends !
Let me read your site again! Ha ha

Maybe aries are just good as friends (I have tons of aries friends LOL), but not as boyfriends oO?

Aries a knight in shining armour. Scorpio and Aries = mind games all the time >D

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Originally Posted by Capuchin

Ahhh astrology. The product of the collision between statistics and the human mind.

Yeah, well, most of what passes for astrology in popular culture has little if anything to do with the subject, really. Astrology, Tarot, and many other "analogical sciences" have their place as tools for self-discovery, in my experience. It all depends on how they are approached and used.

Oh yeah ordinaryguy, I meant to go back and reread what you wrote yesterday, it was too much information for me this morning:)

You seem to know a lot about the subject. How come?

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Originally Posted by Capuchin

Pffft, vegemite is a cheap rip off of marmite.

Don't you ever, and I mean ever, bad mouth vegemite like that again. ;)

Marmite... (shakes head in astonishment that such a thing could be said)

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Originally Posted by rol

You seem to know alot about the subject. How come?

No mystery. I took the time to study, learn about it and apply it to my own life.

My hubby is Nov 13th (is that Scorpio?) and I am a June 25th Cancer but the strange thing is we have never resembled any version of our signs that we've even encountered. I mean not even close!

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Originally Posted by valinors_sorrow

My hubby is Nov 13th (is that Scorpio?) and I am a June 25th Cancer but the strange thing is we have never resembled any version of our signs that we've even encountered. I mean not even close!

Not strange at all. Sun signs are more often than not a relatively minor indicator of personality. Other features of a birth chart, especially the house positions of planets and relationships between them are usually far more significant.

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Originally Posted by ordinaryguy

Yeah, well, most of what passes for astrology in popular culture has little if anything to do with the subject, really. Astrology, Tarot, and many other "analogical sciences" have their place as tools for self-discovery, in my experience. It all depends on how they are approached and used.

It's useful in the same way as religion is useful. But it makes zero sense to me that your life is dictated by the position of the stars. Just as it makes no sense to me that there is a guy up there who can do anything he wants to with us.

I'm not deriding it as a useful practice that can give you faith and purpose. I'm just saying that it's rather obviously completely created by the human mind's ability to see patterns where there are none.

From a logical point of view it is useless. From an emotional point of view, it certainly isn't.

Ahhh 2 water signs VAL, great match :)

Hi guys, happy Friday : )

Yes, I am Leo :D

My famous ex is an Aquarious, does that spell disaster? Ha ha !

Pffft Aquariuses are great.

Ha ha!

HA HA Wap, just read aquarius man description the in theing kaitou put..
"But no one is more out of touch with his own feeling nature than the Aquarian man. He can be one of the most infuriating people you will ever meet when it comes to relationships. His coolness is infuriating - and deceptive. Remember that this sign has a lot of pride. Control of emotions is a big thing for Aquarians. No matter how much he's suffering, he will not grant you the satisfaction of knowing it.
You may meet the type of Aquarian man who simply refuses to discuss his feelings. Or he may tell you you're being emotional, irrational, or downright hysterical. He's often grossly hypocritical about all this, because when the tables are turned, he's as capable of feeling desperate jealousy as any Scorpio. But even then, he won't admit it to himself. He'll just suffer in silence and go all frosty and detached.

The only way to deal with this kind of Aquarian is to out-Aquarius him. That means challenging his beliefs, so that he can find out whether he really believes in them or not. It means being a little unpredictable yourself, and claiming your fair share of all that freedom he talks about so freely.

Ha ha! Sounds like him Rol!! I think he is a lost cause ha ha! What about Leo?

Leos often find it very difficult to share the stage. You're generous to a fault, but you can be insensitive to the emotional currents around you. And as for pride... Well, you invented the word. Leos are often deeply introverted, but you depend so ferociously on the love and acceptance of others that you'll do virtually anything to earn their admiration. It's really a problem of identity.

The big task which challenges you in life is the issue of who you are, why you're here, and why you're uniquely yourself. It's a lifelong challenge. If you can't muster the self-esteem you need from your own inner resources, you'll crave it like a drug from the audience. But the real journey is within, into the source of your own being. It's in the process of creating that you find your real sense of self-value. And the Leo who learns this, and lives it, is indeed heroic.

Mm some of it is true, some not! Im quite happy for someone to be on the stage ha ha! I hate attention in crowds etc.

Thanks Rol! Well, I have a big heart, I am certainly not insensitive!! Maybe it would help me more if I was!!

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Originally Posted by Capuchin

But it makes zero sense to me that your life is dictated by the position of the stars.

This is the popular conception of astrology--that the stars cause things to happen or require people to behave in certain ways or exhibit certain character traits. Even some astrologers still approach the subject from this point of view, but there is another way to do it that I believe is more useful. Here's how I described it in my previous post (emphasis added):

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Originally Posted by ordinaryguy

The usefulness of one's birth chart as a tool for self-exploration depends on the willing choice to treat it as a symbolic mandala that represents the sum of all possible challenges, opportunities, potentials and hazards afforded by this life situation. There is no necessity to make such an analogy, just as there is neither a guarantee nor requirement to manifest any particular one of the possibilities inherent in the lifetime. Hence, the sages say, "The stars inform, they do not compel".

From this point of view, astrology provides a taxonomy of personality and a vocabulary for describing and analyzing the process of growth, learning and maturation. It becomes a way to think about and become aware of the inner complexities of our psyche and the process that we go through as our life unfolds. There is nothing deterministic or compulsory about it.

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Originally Posted by ordinaryguy

Not strange at all. Sun signs are more often than not a relatively minor indicator of personality. Other features of a birth chart, especially the house positions of planets and relationships between them are usually far more significant.

Thanks for that explanation, Guy! It makes sense and we've never had a full work up done since neither of us know the time of our births.

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Originally Posted by Capuchin

It's useful in the same way as religion is useful. But it makes zero sense to me that your life is dictated by the position of the stars. Just as it makes no sense to me that there is a guy up there who can do anything he wants to with us.

I'm not deriding it as a useful practice that can give you faith and purpose. I'm just saying that it's rather obviously completely created by the human mind's ability to see patterns where there are none.

From a logical point of view it is useless. From an emotional point of view, it certainly isn't.

Interesting... Most scientists dismiss religion as there is no real proof that convinces them. I respect that but I always say that it is important to keep an open mind, always as there may be things that science cannot explain or even provide insight. I use the word MAY because there MAY be things or there may not be things...

The important thing is to keep an open mind...

Kind of like what Skell was talking about the red Kangaroo being the largest of them all... I am open minded to that concept but I have not seen one yet so I am partially dismissing them too... LOL Just kidding, that is a rubbish example.

Sometimes there is half truth in something people believe in and the other half is based on sugar coating the truth or adding on things which help drive the belief system. This could be a fact with Astrology in that there is some truth to it and it must have derived from some reliable source but the truth of it gets misshaped in some way and therefore the belief system is driven by this misshaping because it makes the theory of it all more attractive.