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  • Aug 15, 2009, 12:36 AM
    fuzzychin
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LJDK View Post
    Although i might be having second thoughts at times, i made up my mind. If she chooses the bad road, then so be it. But only when that is 100% certain can i quit.

    That will never be 100% certain, I'm afraid. You will be too worn down to see it if/when it appears. I said never - I never say never... It's unlikely that you'll see it.

    My advice is don't do this. Don't make absolute promises like this, because it's like dropping a wall down inside yourself; a thing you can't cross. It divides you, and disallows certain connections to be made in your mind. This will be bad for you later on if left in place - and I've not really had much experience of breaking my own: you will need someone who understands as we do, to delve deep within you and ask you that one question that knocks on the 'magic' (loose) brick. Then it will fall. In my experience, I've never seen a wall that wasn't harmful to someone.

    I'm sorry to be so contradictory. I don't believe this is the end yet - it doesn't sound like you've managed to explain enough, and that post sounded like it was written in the 'heat of the moment' a bit. You should both understand the reasoning behind what you're doing, or it will be wasted effort. You still love the person lying there underneath the drugs - at least if your path still lies similar to mine then I'd bet money that you do. That person will only come out if you don't destroy her by running at some predetermined time: you've probably been feeling that it's slightly easier than the hardest possible path*. Go when it feels right. You have done some preparation for this already, but not enough. The forefront, conscious part of our minds is not good at making decisions such as this: I'd leave it to your subconscious to decide when it's right, but you must listen to it and not leave it aside thinking it's a glitch. It won't be long by the sounds of it, but remember to give her wonder and awe, and give her the power to believe that what she wants from life it is possible (for her specifically) to get.


    Try to remember, how it felt when you met her. That meeting will never happen again: all future events are influenced by the past, so are automatically different. However, something as good or better can happen again. She is the person you want - don't let that slip away out of frustration. Help her, and you help yourself. You sound ready to retract and get your life back, and maybe she is too. What she hasn't got is preparation for the split. Ideally she would understand that it is just separation: not a proper break-up. And it's not through lack of love - that one's easy to prove. Try having a think about the situation turned on its head: if you were her, what would you really need your lover to say/do now? If she was you, what would she do? That's helped me a lot in the past.

    Best,
    Fuzzy

    PS This was a bit of a messy post - I'm not entirely clear what I should've done in my relationship, so passing on clues by explaining what happened-type things is all I can offer now. Hopefully you can gleen some information out of it that helps you.

    * I've found that the hardest possible path is almost always the best one to follow... Especially in a relationship like yours. It's less painful in the long run if you take on the pain as and when it appears.
  • Aug 15, 2009, 01:00 AM
    fuzzychin
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Sorry guy, but your lack of knowledge is part of the problem, and has made you an enabler, and that does more harm than good.

    The logical option is to get information, not enable her by using with her.

    Thats what I recommend, as your trying to do something you know nothing about. Better to leave, than send the mixed signals your sending, because you can't help without guidance.

    What do you think he's looking for here? Ways to blow up Iran? This guy has opened up his heart and life here, so that others might be able to help two lovers stick together and work through this </fairytale>: the admission of lack of knowledge has been and passed - get with the times. The thing about being an enabler is the most helpful thing you said, but it's phrased harshly. It sounds like you might *have* said knowledge - why not share, or at least share how you got it..
  • Aug 15, 2009, 06:27 AM
    talaniman

    My knowledge comes from first hand experience with drugs, and alcohol, and how to overcome them, and also helping others overcome them, And that does include many family, friends, and loved ones, who live through the lives of those who suffer.
  • Aug 15, 2009, 06:37 AM
    N0help4u
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fuzzychin View Post
    What do you think he's looking for here?? Ways to blow up Iran? This guy has opened up his heart and life here, so that others might be able to help two lovers stick together and work through this </fairytale>: the admission of lack of knowledge has been and passed - get with the times. The thing about being an enabler is the most helpful thing you said, but it's phrased harshly. It sounds like you might *have* said knowledge - why not share, or at least share how you got it...?

    So are you suggesting that OP DOES do drugs to solve the problem??
  • Aug 16, 2009, 08:49 AM
    sweet1028

    I doubt that he is suggesting that anyone do drugs to solve any problems. Drugs are definitely not the best choice to solve anything, it only makes things worse.
  • Aug 16, 2009, 11:20 AM
    talaniman

    People who do drugs do so, because it makes them feel good.
  • Aug 16, 2009, 11:38 AM
    amicon
    Yes. And I suppose drugs make a person forget the emptiness inside them. I ve never touched any drugs never wanted to.I do believe though that one would need professional help to get off them.
  • Aug 17, 2009, 12:05 AM
    fuzzychin
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    so are you suggesting that OP DOES do drugs to solve the problem???

    What? I'm saying that the user talking about him becoming an enabler as a negative thing is helpful, and you come out with that. Some people are either deranged or refuse to learn to read before posting responses...
  • Aug 17, 2009, 12:23 AM
    sweet1028

    Being on drugs is just a way to face the problems and the stressful things in your life. That is my opinion.

    I have and never will get on drugs because even though time do get hard, I'd rather face things with an open mind. I would not want to kill a few brain cells to forget my problems and wake up to find that they are still there. Then what? Go find more drugs because the problems didn't go away while I was high before...

    I don't know what people are thinking when they take their lives in this direction.
  • Aug 17, 2009, 12:58 AM
    LJDK

    Well I did make it clear to her now that this is a thing of the past. She got very sick from her relapse so I doubt she will be using again. Still, I made it clear I can no longer tolerate it.

    So we decided we will start excersizing together and get in shape and eat more healthy. After all, a healthy body is a healthy mind.
    She just started with a detox, no cige's, booze or weed. Lets hope this helps the cause.

    And yes, we do drugs because it feels good. But never ever to forget something bad... for life has taught me that you only feel worse afterwards. Not better. Drugs do not take away pain, sorrow or anything but the capacity to reason properly.
  • Aug 18, 2009, 12:00 AM
    fuzzychin

    Wow - it sounds like you're both way more mature than either me or my ex were. Brilliant plan, and I'm glad to learn that a hard line has worked for you - but don't let her get downhearted if signs of change aren't imminent. You seem to be well on top of this now.
    Absolutely agree - drugs take away the capacity to reason properly, which leads you to a) think less of yourself as you're less capable of solving your problems after taking them than you were before, and b) take more drugs to *avoid* the problems further. NOT to face them. People turn to them probably because they don't believe a viable solution exists, so they want to be as happy as possible for as much of the time as possible.

    Congrat's. Now all you need to know is whether she's doing this for herself, or for fear of losing you if she doesn't (probably both, and thinking about it in your situation it probably doesn't matter - it's unlikely to be for the worst).
  • Aug 18, 2009, 05:29 AM
    talaniman

    Quote:

    And yes, we do drugs because it feels good. But never ever to forget something bad...
    That's not true at all, but its only a symptom of a greater problem that needs to be addressed.
    Quote:

    for life has taught me that you only feel worse afterward. Not better.
    For some its an easier way out. Facing a problem, and solving it are to different things.
    Quote:

    Drugs do not take away pain, sorrow or anything but the capacity to reason properly.
    For some they do take away the pain and sorrow, and it's the easiest way to feel good.

    I say all this to try and point you in the right direction, as I think you have little understanding of the true effects of drugs, on the mind, body and soul, so you can at least LOOK for the proper information, such as Alanon, so you can know how to help, and what to expect.

    Her choice of drugs doesn't matter, nor how much, or how often she uses, the whole problem is much deeper, and until its resolved, or at least addressed, seldom do people have a chance.

    I urge you to give her that chance, and educate yourself, and encourage you to help her dig deeper.

    Its also a fact, drugs, and alcohol, have a profoundly greater detrimental effect on females than males, so doesn't minimize the danger she is in.

    The good news is the solution is out there.
  • Aug 21, 2009, 06:27 AM
    LJDK
    To go or not to go?
    Threads merged
    Hi again.
    My fiancé wants to go out tonight to one of her friends birth day party.
    Not a big deal right!

    Well to me it might be. Not sure yet. One, we seldom do go out. But when we do it lasts for 5 - 7 nights in a row. Then I start refusing to go out because I only go out to clubs because she wants to. I can't stand clubs simply because the people are all wasted, and the music is really not my type. I am a relaxed person with very little interest in socializing but knows it has to be done for her sake.

    In any case. Perhaps my anti social behaviour is the cause of my lack of willingness to go out tonight. Maybe not.

    But let me tell you something else.

    1: The dude told her the other day on text he will give her an open mouth kiss if she kept his sunglasses safe. (he forgot it at her work, she is a hairdresses - got his hair cur) Sure he might have just been expressing his gratitude.

    2: We have no cash atm. She is going to make more debt just so we can go drink with them.

    3: I am sick, my throat hurts like hell and I'm tired as hell considering I couldn't sleep with her snorring last night.

    4: Those friends of hers are 5 years younger than me, intrested in 2 things. Drugs. Sex.
    (based on previous occasions that we met)

    5:I have nothing in common with any of them, or get along with any of them.

    If I go, she will get upset because I am not very chatty with her mates. If I don't go, then I'm being antisocial and a bore. If I tell her to go without me, then I tell her openly go and enjoy your night with the dude that told you he wants to give you an open mouth kiss.

    Hmmm
  • Aug 21, 2009, 08:36 AM
    talaniman

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    I think you have MANY issues to work out together, as sex, drugs, and your social life seems to be having problems.

    As to the partying, a week is a long time to have a good time, doing what?

    Man you can't keep up with her, and really do need to gets some honest communications going, so you both can work on a compromise solution that works for you both.

    If your not willing to work together, you will grow apart.
  • Aug 21, 2009, 08:43 AM
    LJDK

    The thing is we do have open communication. And I lost count of the times I said no, I don't want to go out. So I feel guilty for wanting to say no again, because I say no more than I say yes. And she does compromise a lot, and so do I.

    Still I am not in the mood. But guess I have to just keep my mouth shut and tag along and take everything as it comes.
  • Aug 21, 2009, 10:46 AM
    talaniman

    A sour puss is a poor partner to party with, so take a better attitude with you.

    Given her problem with drugs, and alcohol (alcohol is a drug ), recognize that she may be triggered, and want to participate.

    That's something to work out ahead of time, will she use, and get carried away, or is she ready to be around something she likes to do, but it's a problems in her life, and abstain, and have a good time without using?

    That's what I meant by open communications, as is she really ready for that, and is it a good idea?

    All you have expressed is you don't like her friends, or what they do, and some guy Frenching your female, when you both know good and well, their are dangers, and issues to discuss.
  • Aug 26, 2009, 05:33 AM
    LJDK

    Hi again. New question or thing.
    She works 6 days a week. Only off on wednesdays. And then every 2nd Sunday she gets a day off. So today was her day off, or is. We are moving to a new place this weekend. So my mother stopped in to fix a carpet stain.

    So my fiancé got super irritated when I saw her earlier during my lunch break. She goes off telling me how this was suppose to be her off day, and she didn't want to spend half of it helping fixing the place before we move out. Also she felt incompetent for being able to do it herself.

    So she kept lashing out at me, and I starting feeling surely this cannot be the only reason. I must add we have not been sleeping very great the last few nights. Our bed is kind of wasted.

    In any case, so I text her to ask her I did wrong, because she was extremely rude towards me earlier. She then tells me she feels like she has no time for herself.

    So what do I do? Right now my intuition tells me I must ignore it because women have a right to be upset over little issues. Also she is on her period atm.

    But I cannot help and be extremely angry right now at her for acting this way. I mean its not my fault she burned the carpet, if she didn't burn it my mother would not have been there today to fix it. Also I see no reason why she has to be upset towards me. I feel like switching off my phone and just ignoring her at this point in time because frankly I try to keep her happy to lift her spirits when she is down but also due to my lack of sleep I am just not in the mood for her crap today.

    Feel like dropping her stuff off at her moms house and just call it quits. Feeling like a failure atm. Can never satisfy her, but I might be exaggerating a bit.
  • Aug 26, 2009, 05:40 AM
    amicon

    Maybe its time you had a good think about what you want to do?what kind of life do YOU want?
  • Aug 26, 2009, 05:47 AM
    s_cianci
    She has a drug problem, plain and simple. You see the kind of drama it causes. Is this how you want to live the rest of your life? Based on what you've said here I think I know the answer to that question. I'd think long and hard before taking the plunge with this one.
  • Aug 26, 2009, 05:52 AM
    LJDK

    I have to give her the benefit of the doubt at least. She hasn't used since her last relapse and I already made up my mind, if she uses again I will send her packing regardless of the amount of pain it will create for me and her.

    Because I know I don't want this kind of ups and downs for the rest of my life. Doesn't PMS justify her behaviour today?
    I sure hope it does otherwise she is definitely using again.
  • Aug 26, 2009, 07:35 AM
    talaniman

    The thing you need to recognize is maybe your letting past problems, influence small everyday problems, and making them bigger than what its worth.

    Something's are only a temporary glitch, that will pass, if you let it.

    PMS?? Geez dude, every guy knows that's the worst time of the month for man, and woman!!

    Let it go, you have enough problems, without making more from nothing.
  • Aug 26, 2009, 07:49 AM
    LJDK

    OK. Will take your advise talaniman. I reckon I am taking past issues and reviving them for the sake of justifying what is happening.
  • Sep 3, 2009, 03:32 AM
    LJDK

    Hi again.
    Got something else to add.

    New thing that happened. If you have read my life thread, and you are familiar with all the past stuff, then maybe you can tell me if I am handling this the right way.

    Tuesday night, she got home. We just finished moving into our new place so we were both over tired, stressed from the sudden shift in life's responsibilities.

    The 4 nights before this I tried to get her into the mood. But failed. I understood its due to stress, the big change of moving etc. So I let it go. Any case. Tuesday I had a headache like never before from falling on my head during the day. I was tired from all the moving and carying stuff.

    So I was lying in bed, when she woke me. She tried seducing me, but almost as if just trying to make up for the other 4 nights, but still I wanted to be seduced but was too tired to do anything to seduce her. Short while later she stopped said I should just sleep in her arms. OK. Then she asks me why the lack of passion from my side?

    I made the mistake of saying its because I feel rejected after 4 consecutive nights of trying in vein. She got super mad. So a fight began. And she told me I am too much of an effort in her life(because I am always anti social) and that she has given up so much for me (drugs and she blames me for giving up her friends which is not true... they disappeared when she stopped doing drugs). We never have fun and she feels like an old lady. She also told me I am always serious which frankly was BS. I made some bad moves and said bad things when she mentioned our sex life.

    We talked about it. Everything that was mentioned. Including the other night when she told me her mom does not want me to marry her. Then we got in bed. The phone rang and we got out of bed and went out with friends for some drinks.

    So everything appears to be fine. She laughed and had a great time. Yesterday everything was very chill. Not one mention of any of the issues. But there was this long silence. Maybe because I kind of did not respond to her talking for about an hour then she stopped talking.

    I just felt, well if she says nothing is wrong after the huge fight, why the need to speak if she always calls it comfortable silence?
    So I am pretending nothing is wrong because she said nothing is wrong. No more Mr. Serious. I believe the best way to go is to stop analyzing everything so much. This would then have prevented me saying what I did which sparked the argument.

    It seems she needs to have more fun and less seriousness in her life. And to be honest, since I stopped talking serious stuff with her, I feel better... but I still have this nagging sensation that she is really getting bored with me.
  • Sep 3, 2009, 06:41 AM
    talaniman

    Quote:

    I made the mistake of saying its because I feel rejected after 4 consecutive nights of trying in vain.
    Interesting you chose to dredge up a, what you thought was a slight from the past, instead of saying you had a headache, from a fall on your head, and was tired from the days events.

    That's not honest communications, and lead to a misunderstanding.

    I believe thinking before you speak, leads to better communicating, and not some tit for tat excuse, that was meant to hurt.

    You can correct that with the truth, and an apology, and some understanding of why you felt bad by her rejection of your attempts at seduction. Bad timing, and not very compassionate of her feelings, which you wrongly took personally.
  • Sep 3, 2009, 07:06 AM
    LJDK

    Yip. I did apologise and explained myself better after the dust settled. Hopefully I can prevent this in the future.
  • Sep 25, 2009, 04:02 AM
    LJDK
    Insecurities getting me down.
    Hi.
    Not sure what to do or if there are any great self help books out there. Please be so kind as to recommend some.

    My situation. I am insecure. For instance, we were at a theme park standing in the que and I got frustrated at the fact that my fiancé would constantly turn her back towards me and instead chose to stand next to my friend and not me. The entire day she would not look at me once, but constantly stare into my friends eyes and talk with him, but not once with me.

    If I go an stand by her side she would move to the opposite barrier and look away from me, turning her back to me.

    When I talk only my friend looked and responded. She would not look, smile or respond in any way. So is started feeling insecure about this. Why she is acting this way I don't know.

    I told her how I felt and she said I am going to push her away if I make this an issue. Now I feel I was in the wrong. I told her body language says a lot and the fact that she turns her back on me constantly pretending I am not there says a lot to me. She then said I imagine things etc. and started screaming about how childish I am so I just left the house.

    I am starting to feel that I am no longer ready for this relationship. I never use to be this insecure, but the more my love grows the more I become insecure.
  • Sep 25, 2009, 05:33 AM
    I wish
    Try reading these books:

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  • Sep 25, 2009, 06:27 PM
    talaniman
    Its easy when things you cannot control take such a big chunk out of us, that its so upsetting. You can control yourself, your thoughts, and actions. I think it helps to think before you act, or speak, at least then you won't have something stupid to apologize for.

    Sometimes the best actions, are none at all.

    Have you had a check up, or a talk with a doctor? You should, you never know. Given your history with this female, she doesn't bring out the best in you for sure. You may be getting some of her weird moods transferred to you.
  • Sep 25, 2009, 08:17 PM
    artlady
    Listen to Tal!
  • Sep 26, 2009, 01:22 PM
    roxypox

    Had to spread the love Tal... but I think your really onto something!

    I am a big believer in trying to control what you can control, stop trying to control what you can't control.

    Other then that; Listen to Tal! (like artlady so greatly put it!)
  • Sep 28, 2009, 06:36 AM
    LJDK

    I will have to see a shrink at some point. Noticing a lot of issues I have, then taking it out on the relationship.

    I might have some damage that I picked up 9 years ago and its starting to work itself out now. What happened was me and my ex girlfriend broke up, we were together 3.5 years. She cheated on me. A few days after the break up my best friend died in a freak accident, and then to top that off, me and my family moved far far away so I had no other friends or anyone to relate to.

    Withdrew from society for roughly 8.5 years.

    Took me 8 years to return to his grave and make ammends with the reality that he is gone. So I must admit getting back into the whole aspect of society, and life in general is hard.
  • Sep 28, 2009, 04:33 PM
    roxypox

    No wonder that its hard, it sounds like you had a lot on your plate back then, and especially when life altering incidents happens all at once... it would do a number on anyone.

    I'm glad that you've decided to take a hold of all of this now though, that's a good start (if one can put it in those words)

    Everybody heals at their own pace, and some need more time then others.

    I def recommend seeing a psychologist, I started seeing one about 4.5 years ago and has found it very helpful! I've found that it has given me the tools I need in order to deal with some difficult things... and you seem to be at a place now where you are ready to deal and face some of the issues that you have been experiencing and that's a good starting point for therapy.

    I'm sorry to hear about the things that happened to you though!

    Roxy
  • Sep 30, 2009, 01:56 PM
    rnrg
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LJDK View Post
    Hi.
    Not sure what to do or if there are any great self help books out there. Please be so kind as to reccomend some.

    My situation. I am insecure. For instance, we were at a theme park standing in the que and i got frustrated at the fact that my fiance would constantly turn her back towards me and instead chose to stand next to my friend and not me. The entire day she would not look at me once, but constantly stare into my friends eyes and talk with him, but not once with me.

    If i go an stand by her side she would move to the opposite barrier and look away from me, turning her back to me.

    When i talk only my friend looked and responded. She would not look, smile or respond in any way. So is started feeling insecure about this. Why she is acting this way i dont know.

    I told her how i felt and she said i am going to push her away if i make this an issue. Now i feel i was in the wrong. I told her body language says a lot and the fact that she turns her back on me constantly pretending i am not there says a lot to me. She then said i imagine things etc. and started screaming about how childish i am so i just left the house.

    I am starting to feel that i am no longer ready for this relationship. I never use to be this insecure, but the more my love grows the more i become insecure.

    Maybe it is not you that is insecure, but your girlfriend. It sounds like she may be a little immature and not ready for a relationship. I would not want to be with someone (especially if they were my boyfriend/girlfriend) if they ignored me, saved their smiles for others, and brushed me off. It is always hard when both partners like each other on different levels. It also makes breaking up more difficult if you are the one that likes her more. However, if she treats you this way while dating, she could very well treat you similarly if you guys ever got married. Think about long-term whenever you begin to date someone. It saves a headache later on. There is a right girl out there that will definitely appreciate you.

    Here is a book that you might want to read. It is called Escaping Emotional Entrapment by Daniel Rutley. It is a good read for anyone and will definitely encourage you and help you to see "things" in a different manner.

    Don't sell yourself short. If you need to, make a list of what you want out of life - Long term and short term. Work towards those goals. Keep them realistic. Just remember that we all have our ups and downs, and that life is full of lessons. Learn from every situation and improve on the next.

    I am sorry about what you have already had to face. These are hurdles that I know you will eventually jump over.

    Good luck. Rita
  • Oct 5, 2009, 05:43 AM
    LJDK
    Why am I feeling like this?
    Hi.
    26 me
    21 she
    Together 7 months now. Me 7 years single (excl 1 one night stand) Her. 3 months single after 3.5 year relationship.

    Not sure why I am feeling this way and it is scary as hell.
    I love my fiancé very very much. We are going through that phase where you fight about everything. Small... big... does not matter. So for about 4 days all went well no fighting. Last night it started again.

    Only this time it is obvious my fiancé has been keeping all the past fights against me. It all became too much for her to handle. She cried and cried and cried. Obviously very frustrated, sad and angry. So we tried talking about it, but every time when we start making progress she suddenly says we are talking in circles and then pulls away refusing to continue talking.

    Now she wants a break, and go sleep at her mothers house. This morning all is fine, except when we spoke over the phone earlier I made a joke with her, she was irritated due to a customer that upset her. I ask her why and she said she doesn't want to say. Foolishly I make the joke "now my girl doesnt even want to share this with me" Bad mistake. She Screamed OMF, I'm going now... so I just put the phone down.

    Text her, sorry but it was a bad joke... please let go of all the grudges you are holding against me etc. She phones back, she is sorry etc. didn't know I was joking.

    Now here comes the problem. I have these constant thoughts popping up my head that I should end the relationship. The confusing part is, I feel neutral. I do not feel happy or sad. Not scared or sure. Just neutral. No emotion what so ever. I have been crying for a week or so every night, until she gets home then I hold my pose when she is the same room. Now I am just so depleted of all energies I simply do not care anymore.

    I think I might have pushed her away subconciously for thinking about leaving her on and off. There was no reason for these thoughts to start except the fact that she did give off a lot of signs of cheating for 2 weeks a while ago. Stuff like, shower when she gets home, refusal to talk, distant, irritated, gets mad very easily at the slightest criticism, keeping huge distance between us when we are sleeping, only have sex when she wants to.. no compromise like in the past. So for a long long time I was convinced she is cheating, perhaps that is when the "tension" started. We also had a huge fight when I raised these little suspicions with her.

    What sparked the whole fight last night is that during sexy time she reached climax. Then proceeded to say she is wondering why she can only do so with stimulation of the whatever etc. I told her most women are like this (I think) but then asked if I still do it for her in this regard. She replied "you do it for me in all other ways" I assumed she is saying no, but in all other aspect you do, but don't worry I will get this aspect from someone else. And that's how the fight started. Although I did not say she will get it somewhere else I sure did think about it.

    I just want to get these thoughts out of my head. I do not want to leave her, I want to be with her and marry her when all our issues are sorted out... but why can I not suppress these idiotic thoughts of moving on? Is it intuition that is warning me? Perhaps the thought of getting married that is scary? She did ask me if I feel that I was pressured into asking her for her hand. But I was not. .

    Perhaps I should give her the space she needs and use this time when she goes to sleep at her mothers as time to get back in touch with who I am. Oh yes, she also said she no longer wants to come home because its not fun like it use to be. She misses the fun we had etc. I have noticed we are both depressed these days... can't even get out of bed to do the hikes we use to etc.

    Sigh... any advice... sorry for the super long post.
  • Oct 5, 2009, 06:00 AM
    I wish
    Threads merged

    This problem has been going on for a while now. 7 months is not a very long time before getting engaged. It sounds like you didn't know her as well as you thought before jumping into a serious relationship. You need to slow things down with her. I think the fact that you're engaged is putting some pressure in the two of you to become more serious.

    Slow down, spend some time talking things out and getting to know each other better. It's good that she asked for a break. Just give her some time and space to let things cool down. Once you've each gained some perspective, you will be able to approach the situation more objectively.
  • Oct 5, 2009, 11:10 PM
    LJDK

    It is what I did yesterday. Took things slow, and I'm planning on keeping it that way. Last night was wonderful, it felt like the old days where we could just talk without any pressure.

    She now changed her mind and does not want to take a break. I guess it all came down to the both of us constantly focusing on the negative and forgetting about the positive. Always trying to look for something to fix between us.

    Somehow I feel happy again.

    She seems to have a lot more energy today, cleaned the place before I even got up, full of smiles and giggles. I reckon you are right that the pressure of being engaged got to us. Somewhere along the line we forgot why we are together and why we liked each other.
  • Oct 28, 2009, 02:22 PM
    LJDK

    Hi. Its me again.

    My issue is something personal. Ever since she said that she doesn't want sex I have been wondering how it would be to be with someone who wants me in that way. I just do not feel wanted anymore. I know its wrong and I do not want to think about other women, but I just feel I can no longer go to my fiancé and try to get her in the mood. We hardly get to spend time together, and she is always tired when she gets home.

    Candle lit baths, massages, doing the house chores etc. gets me no where... even on her off days she is too tired. I have tried everything. She's just never in the mood. What scares me even more is that I have started withdrawing emotionally from her... perhaps this is why we no longer fight. And to top that off, I have been spending more and more time with a female co worker... just smoking buddies... but that doesn't mean my mind is starting to crave more than a cige.

    I don't know how to control this desire to feel wanted again. I just feel alone. In the past I would communicate this with her, but have learned that it usually ends up in a fight... and I am tired of fighting. I know I would never cheat... I would rather break it off with her... the thing is I believe the only way to resolve this is to communicate, so I have tried long and hard to get my fiancé to work through the book men from mars women from venus as it might help to learn to communicate but the only one who read the book was me. I think in the past 4 months she read the introduction.

    So I told her we have to go see a intermediary... couple councilor or a pre-marriage councilor but this too results in a huge fight.

    I almost left her about a week ago. I had the letter written and was ready to read it to her when she said what I needed to hear at the time. So I decided not to give up. But I am so scared I will reach that point of becoming so frustrated that I will leave.

    Thing is lately I just care so little I cannot really be frustrated... I just do not care anymore. Do not feel wanted, one sided effort to learn to communicate without conflict... what's the point.
  • Oct 28, 2009, 08:12 PM
    talaniman

    You a way to uptight guy relax, breathe, your making mountains out of mole hills. SLOW DOWN and stop trying so hard. Balance yourself with something else besides her. 7 months and your feeling the way you do because you expect too much, too soon, and will surely crash and burn. Fiancé in 7 months?? Who's idea was that?! Go back to dating her, you'll both feel better.
  • Oct 29, 2009, 06:23 AM
    LJDK

    I guess you have a point. Maybe I am expecting too much too soon. Its just so hard to relax... need a vacation.
  • Oct 29, 2009, 07:07 AM
    talaniman

    Guys go fishing for 3 days with their buds, to get away and relax, and think of NOTHING.

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