She texted me today saying she sent me a check for booking the flight and was bored at work, but I didn't respond. She also imed me, why I was ignoring her, said I wasn't, and then she tried seeing how things were, I had a few short responses and signed off. I don't want to kill my chances if there are any left, but I feel like I have to do this to move on.

The more you communicate, the more you kill your chances. You are not in any way saving anything by communicating. You have to remember, all she is thinking about if her actions, not yours. You however, are thinking about what she is going to think about what you do. You are living your life for her and not for yourself. Trust me, if she really wants you (like a person that you want to spend the rest of your life with should), then she will do whatever it takes to be with you. Cut off the communication, and then over time you will see how she really feels. If she does whatever it takes to be with you, then you know that she is the one, but if not then, well that give you the answer as well. You are being weak right now, and you need to be stronger than ever.

She imed me about 10 times today. Starting small talk, but I didn't respond. She said she kneew I was there, this and that. Later on she imed me to say that he passed her cpa this and that. She then said o I guess you want to play the ignore me games and sorry just wanted to tell you what happen. She went through a tough time during it, so I felt bad to not say congratulations and did about ten minutes later, and also said I didn't see the messages, when I truly did. She said thank you and signed off. Should I have just completely ignored her? I did except for the congratulations and don tell me I'm playing games, I didn't see them. I didn't say anything else and I won't. I guess I should continue no contact an if she comes to the point where she says she wants to be together, then I have to think about it, if it ever happens?

You see what happens when you respond? Now you are the one who is left with questions. She simply said "thank you" and logged off. Now, you are the one in limbo. Ignore, and delete!

When would I ever know if it was right to respond back?

You won't, and that is why you shouldn't. It is confusing huh? Just ignore and move on. For right now, you need not worry.

You will never NEED to respond to her. Need is all a matter of mentality. You may think you NEED to respond to her, buy you NEVER need to. It is up to you.

Take a second and break down what happened when she imed you...

First she writes you and you don't respond.

Second, then she writes you more because she wants to know why you aren't responding.

Thirdly, at this point she is really not sure what is going on because she is so used to having you just respond to her whenever she wants. (having cake and eating it too sound familiar)

Fourth, she starts to say that you are playing games because you aren't responding... well the simple fact is, she has to say that now because she knows that is what will get to you and well surprise, surprise, she doesn't like her own medicine.

Fifth, she is starting to see that she is not in control and doesn't like that so that is also why she wrote the "playing games" comment.

Sixth, she was using this whole cpa thing as an excuse to get in touch with you. Who cares whether she had a tough time. She gave you up and therefore she can go share that news with all the other people in her life.

Lastly, she finally breaks you down, and you respond and now she still knows that she has control of the situation if feels good to her. You are mistaking her need to ease her conscience with her actually caring.

I am not here to piss you off or hurt you in any ways, he! I am here to help you. EVERYONE ON THIS SITE REPRESENTS THE EYES THAT CAN SEE WHAT YOU CANNOT SEE BECAUSE YOU ARE BLINDED!

You need to cut off all communication. ALL COMMUNICATION! NO RESPONDING, NO MATTER WHAT! You see how she was being when you didn't respond to her? She didn't like the idea that you were actually being a man and that you weren't going to be a part of her BS and her games. Then when you communicated she got what she wanted, and then was gone. If she wants a congrats from you, then perhaps she should have rethought her previous decisions.

I'm trying to help you here, and trust me, I will. But you have to start listening. Once you start that, you will begin to see these things for yourself as well.

You're right, just having a tough time because I keep thinking to myself what if she realizes she messed up? Honestly, because it has been more than a few days, Im not ruling out that I would get back with her, or should I just force myself if the opportunity arises and I want it, not to be with her?

Continuing to stay in contact with her will only worsen your chances of you two getting back together... but the whole point is, you NEED to not even think about that right now. You need to see it as done. She made a decision to do her own thing for now, and SHE made that decision. Now, YOU need to make a decision for YOU, and do your own thing. Stop even worrying about whether you will get back together. You can't make her want to get back with more, but you can make your chances worse, by continuing to communicate with her. The term, "absence makes the heart grow fonder" didn't just appear out of nowhere. Believe in that. Plus, with that absence, you enable yourself the time to start doing things for you and you enable yourself to start healing, and don't be surprised if during that time, you start to notice how screwed up her decisions are. So give up on the what if's... the point is that it is over for now. You go about your way, and if she ever decides to come around, then she can catch up with you then. Don't think about what she is doing, or what she is thinking or what could happen if you do this or that. She isn't thinking about that right now, and she is the one doing the decision making. Start being the one in control here and take care of yourself. Responsibility and knowing who you are and not being afraid to back that up and put your foot down, are some of the most admirable and attractive traits that we as man can have. The sooner you realize that, the sooner you will start healing.

She called, iming me again too. I haven't responded. What could she possibly want? And want will tell me if she wants to get back? I feel like I'm just playing a game with her

I'm having a hard time justifying not responding back at all because it hasn't even been a week since she said she needed time. Yesterday she began trying to contact me, mainly aim, and then once by phone later on at night, and then back to aim to say she called but wasn't sure if it went through. I just don't want to be on bad terms because as of right now I will be visiting her in a month, as long as nothing happens i.e.. Her and another guy. I want to see her and hope it does happen, but I couldn't be shocked if something did. Should I just respond if she contacts me again and say, I can't talk to you until you have what you want figured out? And then go one with myself? I understand the no contact when its bad terms or been awhile, but its only been a few days and the only bad term b/t us was "her needing time." I just feel like I'm jumping the gun, but she probably doesn't even know what she wants

Your frustration with understanding not communicating is normal. Let me lay it out in front of you in a clearer way so that you can see it easier...

She wants her space to think about things. This is what she has told you. So, you grant her space. The point here is that there is more that she is not telling you. She doesn't need to take any space, when this is a long distance relationship to begin with. This is an easier way for her to either let go and let you down easy, or to have the opportunity to see what else is out there, and keep you stringing along in case it sucks.

So, what do you do? You give her space. Why is she calling you and trying to get ahold of you? Because she wants to have her cake and eat it to. She wants to have that attention from you to know that she is still wanted, while she does her own thing without having to be responsible for giving you attention.

You see, she wanted space, and you are giving her what she wants. It's not a concern to you whether she likes it. She didn't really care what you thought about her taking space did she? It's not that it's a game you are playing, but instead, you are just giving her what she wants, space. She is the one playing the games.

You are doing what she asked, and this is a point in which you will see how much she really loves you, because if you doing exactly what she asked, is reason enough for her to just give up, then that is showing you the real side of her, at her own expense. You haven't jumped any gun here. I can't say it enough, but you have done exactly what you need to do and exactly what she asked.

As for whether you should contact her or not, you don't need to do that. She already knows that. Remember, she is the one that asked for the space... so she is well aware of this already. This is why you need to stop worrying about wondering if anything you do is going to jeopordize your chances with her. You need to do things for yourself right now.

Thanks, that was a great post. The only edge I think she has right now is that she knows I plan to come up to where she is in a month, as long as she isn't involved with anyone else. More or less I am just going to have fun, whether its with her or not, but at least will be with my friends, and she paid for half the flight, so its very cheap. I will have to contact her a few days before I go up, but that's still a while from now, I just think she may know that and because she is stubborn and I doubt would ever swallow her pride, she will probably just wait to hear from me. But that shows a lot about her character. If anything though, I am just sticking to the mindset that I didn't do anything wrong when I go through those moments when I doubt ignoring her, even though she has only called once in the last 5 days, sent two texts. Since we broke up she has been trying to contact me through aim everyday, but I stopped going on or put up an away message if I need to be on.

She sent a few texts today, telling me how she is getting out of work early and asking about my finals... still not what I'm looking to hear so I've continued to ignore her. Good idea or no?

If she's contacting you that's already a plus, I would handle it now how you'd like to because I'm in a situation my girlfriend left me after 4.5 years and hasn't spoke to me in weeks, and if she started texting or calling me, I couldn't even tell you how I'd react, I'd say follow your heart kid.

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still not what I'm looking to hear so I've continued to ignore her. Good idea or no?

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Make up your mind, and drop the games. Ignoring someone because its not what you want to hear is a selfish game, that will get you confused, and frustrated.

Forget false hope, and wrap your head around getting your own act together without her.

Ignoring her will push her away, and really that's what you want, if your moving on.

So what are you doing?? Moving on, or trying to influence her into changing her mind, and taking you back?

I should need to influence her to get her back after 3.5 years. I told her when she knows what she wants or doesn't need anymore time, let me know. Now she's asking why I am ignoring her. I thought I should begin to try and move on and then if she ever decided she wanted to be wit me figure it out? Small talk w/ her just leads me on that something will happen, when it probably won't. I texted her back finally (long message) after she asked why I was ignoring her and told her how I felt, asked what she expected when she said she needed time. I told her it only will lead me on and give me false hope of things. We'll see if she responds back.

Talked to her and now I'm completely confused again. Seems that the hope of being together again is reemerging on my part, which takes me back to where I was a few days ago. I told her I could not keep talking to her if we weren't going to be together at this point, it would only give me false hope. I also said to her that she told me she was open to meet other guys and she denied that, saying she wants to be alone for right now. I also said that it seems like you don't want to get back together ever again and she denied that as well. She seemed to put it on me if we didn't get back together. She said she knew and wanted to be back with me after her time. She also was telling me how she has potential good news, that if I come up, she got off work one of the days during the week I am there. She said she doesn't think it is a good idea for me to ignore her (obviously, whether she wants to be wit me or not), but would understand if I did. She said all the stress and fighting recently has led to her needing time because she couldn't take it anymore. I don't know what to believe. She could easily be playing me for a fool or being honest with me and does need some time for everything to cool off. She said it has been hard not talking to me, as I said also. She also said again, that all she wants is for me to be there where she is living, but she knows and we have had this conversation. Many times, that it won't happen for at least another year and a half, where I once again said, if you can't be in a relationship like that, just tell me.
I'm not trying to convince her of being with me again whatsoever. I feel like she needs to make that decision on her own, w/o any influence from me.
I don't know how to handle this anymore, as you can all tell. I really don't want to make that mistake and blow her off when she is being completely honest and faithful. I will be seeing her in a month unless something bad occurs on her part and I feel like maybe this time thing for her now until she sees me could lead to a fresh start. But, that may not be enough time for her. I just feel like having the attitude and impression that we are going to get back together will only set myself up to be hurt even more, so I think I'm going to just keep convincing myself that this probably won't work out, its possible but unlikely, so I don't keep having false hope if it turns out not to work. I'm also not sure if talking with her is such a great idea because I don't want to start thinking I'm dating her and expecting to hear from her everyday, when we aren't together. Maybe talking not regularly, on impulse would be better? Like I have posted before, I don't want to possibly push her away if she is being honest, but I also don't want to set myself up to get hurt again if she's lying.
I love the girl to death and really want this to work out sometime soon, but like you all said, I need to live for me and not be miserable/depressed. Any suggestions or feedback would be greatly appreciated

I can't give you any feedback. I know it is hard and all I can do is offer my support. I have been broken up for three months now, but the sadness and missing my ex feelings are really creeping in as the holidays approach. I just want you to know that I am here for you and understand how rough this is. It is apart of life. I am no expert on relationships, so I will leave the advice to the experts. Good luck, and have a great Thanksgiving.

Wow pal, sticky situation. I think this is where you take the bull by the horns and do what you think you need to do for yourself.

I think I'm going to just try and play it cool, talk if she contacts me if I'm available or feel like talking, maybe contact her occasionally, but I'm going to keep giving her time because otherwise this will go nowhere.

You go ahead, and try to be cool, when every conversation you have with her, confuses you.

What does that tell you about talking to her? Just think what seeing her in person and talking to her will be like??

You don't need advice, or suggestions at this point. Just review the ones you have already, and make a decision based on facts, that take your own interests, and well being into account.

I have tried going nc the last couple days because she wants time. She'll send me a text Every now and then just to see how my tests are going. Should I just keep nc? I'm supposed to be staying wit her in a few weeks. Don't want it to be awkward but she said she needed time, so why a text from her every couple days? For all I know she could be with another guy even though she says she needs time to be alone and won't be wit anyone else or moved on when I'm up there

I'm going to assume you guys are broken up?

So, I would say do whatever makes you more comfortable if your going to be staying with her and such, I would either give short quick replies and end the conversation asap, or I would simply ask her to stop contacting you because this is what she asked for, in this scenario I don't feel ignorance would be the right solution.

I hope this helps!

I'd say your doing the right thing. If she needs time and space or whatever give it to her.

She needs to realize what life is without you. So give what she asks and live your own life too.

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You have started yet another post asking the same questions of the same female, so I assume your unclear, and confused, as to how, and what to do.

In your other posts, you are scheduled for a trip to see her, and you are broken up, and its true that its doubtful this trip will get you back together, just my opinion.

Since your adamant about seeing her do so, as I think her contacting you is her way of making sure your still coming to see her, and keep you on your mind.

Your confusion comes from your inability to make a decision based on the facts you have, as to where this LDR is going. So far your following her, and hoping she changes her mind.

You seem to have ignored the link I sent you to that tells you to communicate and define the boundaries of this LDR, and choose to follow your heart, and do as she says.

You may as well learn the hard way the consequences of your actions, and inaction, and see what's up.

I strongly advise you to drop the No Contact, as you have been only half A$$ed been practicing this tool to healing, and it doesn't benefit you to pretend your healing, when your not. Your waiting for her to take you back, and that's not healing, nor trying to move on.

So, you may as well play her game and find out the hard way that without your honest input, and ability to stand up for yourself, you have no choice but to do as your told, whether it works for you or not.

Not trying to be harsh, just keeping it real, so you have something to think about.

I am confused. I want to go nc. And yes, I do hope she wants to get back, but my #1 priority right now is to try and get happy again, and if it means NC then I got to do it. I do want to see her in a couple weeks because we will have fun, regardless if we are officially together or not, plus I think it will be a reality check for me. I just don't want to blow my chance of seeing her by ignoring her, but then again, if she wanted to see me that bad wouldn't it not matter to her if I ignore her now and still come see her? She says she wants me to come regardless if I ignore her or not. I think I need to take the risk , maybe mention one more time that I need to do this with my life so I'm not miserable and can accept the facts? And if by ignoring so I can stop driving myself nuts about this, she finds another guy, I know its not meant to be and cancel going to stay with her? I think its time to just go by, "let her go and if she comes back it's meant to be?"

What do you think when the ex tells you she understands this is hard on me and will understand if I don't want to talk to her? Does it mean she could care less to talk to me? If so, why has she been so adamant on me visiting her even if I do decide to ignore her the next couple weeks? Or could she realize it is tough on me and is being understanding?

T-neck, its pretty obvious your mind is starting to play tricks on you. Take heed when you start looking at every little thing she says as having some monumental importance. She was telling you whatever you do is fine with her.

Your already in friend zone, so what difference does it make?

She's trying to be understanding. She's hurting too and probably would like the same understanding shown to her.. no 'plot'! (very sinister word to use? :) )

So what are you saying, I should be there to talk when she contacts me, basically like being on call whenever she feels like contacting me, pretty much when she is bored?

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so wut are you saying, i should be there to talk when she contacts me, basically like being on call whenever she feels like contacting me, pretty much when she is bored?

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No contact.If she calls don't pick up.She will get the message.

Turtle, I'm telling you right now, you are going to continue to kill yourself over this. She has already created a reputation as a game player and shown that she is just in this for herself. She is saying this because she is basically trying to put the ball in your court and make you feel guilty that you are doing no contact and not talking to her. The only reason she is considering talking to you is to fill a void that she has, because if you don't talk to her then she has to deal with the fact that she pushed you out of her life and perhaps gave up something good, whereas if you do talk to her and be friends with her, then she never has to worry about having done this, because you are still a part of her life. It is nothing deeper than that. Remember, you have the power right now as long as you aren't speaking to her and staying no contact. If you refer to the "break up first aid" sitcky, one of the things mentioned in there is something to the effect of "...the less you do, the more power you have...". The less you communicate with her, the more she is going to have to realize, and the less you are going to have to worry about.

So, as for this comment, don't respond to her, and just let it be. There is no reason for her to be expecting a response from you, so don't worry about thinking that you needed to give her a response. Just leave it open as it is, and she can sit there and think about it, rather than you.

It's good that you came on here to ask the question though. You needed to talk to someone about this and get opinions because you are in a tough state of mind right now and can't really think clearly, so its good you came on here to ask. Listen to us though, and you will be able to start naturally seeing these things on your own. You have to stay no contact, and you don't reply to this message from her.

I've posted on here a number of times about my situation. Just want to know what you all think realistically. I have been going NC for almost a week. Only have received one text from her and a few ims, didn't respond to any. I am supposed to be visiting her in about 2.5 weeks. She paid for half the flight. If I continue to go NC, you think she will just tell me to forget about coming and staying with her? She told me a week or so ago she understands if I don't want to talk to her and last time we talked, through texts, she said I want you to come and it'll be like usual. I asked if we don't talk do you think we'll still see each other or you'll be moved on and she replied I want to see you if you want to come up and I will not be moved on. (of course she's not going to say shell be moved on) More or less, Im just concerned w/ going up to see her or being able to make other plans if it doesn't work out to see her. I plan to keep going NC for the next week before I give her a call or text to make sure it is OK to come still, otherwise I need to make other plans. I am not trying to play a game just want to uncondition myself from her. Realistically, you think she will just say don't come if I keep going NC or you think I should make a little small talk to keep the trip on? I do want to go and see her, so I'm saying I don't want to mess it up. She said she understands, but Im not trying to be oblivious if you all think its obvious she's going to say don't come. She has only texting me once, so its not like she has been constantly trying to get in touch with me. I want to go up just to have fun, and will not make any attempts at getting back with her. Am I being oblivious thinking she will still want me to come? What do you recommend?

Why did you break up and begin NC in the first place?

I got to be honest, I don't think it matters one way or the other. If you continue to go NC to 'uncondition' yourself off her, all that progress will be lost once you visit her. If you plan on moving on from this, then you should't see her, period. I guess my point is, you really aren't trying to move on from her, you are really trying to see what reactions you get from her by going NC, and also what reactions you would get from her by visiting her. I think it is a dangerous game to be playing, unless you want to get her back.

I am going up because we will have a good time, plus all my friends who I grew up with are all there too. Im strictly going to have fun, nothing more and I told her if you think it is going to be awkward for you just let me know. She said there is no reason it would be, it'll be just like normal.

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itll be just like normal.

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Normal is thrown out the window once you have had a sexual relationship with someone. At least, in my opinion. You cannot go up there and expect everything to be 'normal' and then leave with no emotions whatsoever. I just think you are playing with fire in this situation, and I don't want you to get burnt.

Meaning I will just be back to square one after I leave?