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  • Oct 13, 2008, 06:43 PM
    JBeaucaire

    My suggestion is a little more worldly. People build confidence through accomplishment. Purely complimenting people's looks is a loser in my opinion, since one REALLY mean comment from someone can completely undo all the progress you've made in THAT area.

    No, better would be to help her accomplish something. Make something together, help someone together, help her create things in her life that are short and simple "wins" that you can both look at and say, "Look what you did." Awesome. "Look what we did" is OK, too, but not as effective.

    Stuff like that is WAY more lasting than compliments on physicality. Is she skilled at anything you can mention? Can you think of some way she can share that skill in a quick meaningful way to someone? You know her better then we.

    Is there something YOU'RE good at you can teach her? Something not overly complicated but satisfying when learned? Build/Fly kites? Paint a bedroom? Make a photo album?

    Is there a charity that needs help accomplishing something? Serving in or leading by organizing short projects are always fulfilling.

    You get the idea...
  • Oct 13, 2008, 06:50 PM
    Bural21
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JBeaucaire View Post
    My suggestion is a little more worldly. People build confidence through accomplishment. Purely complimenting people's looks is a loser in my opinion, since one REALLY mean comment from someone can completely undo all the progress you've made in THAT area.

    No, better would be to help her accomplish something. Make something together, help someone together, help her create things in her life that are short and simple "wins" that you can both look at and say, "Look what you did." Awesome. "Look what we did" is OK, too, but not as effective.

    Stuff like that is WAY more lasting than compliments on physicality. Is she skilled at anything you can mention? Can you think of some way she can share that skill in a quick meaningful way to someone? You know her better then we.

    Is there something YOU'RE good at you can teach her? Something not overly complicated but satisfying when learned? Build/Fly kites? Paint a bedroom? Make a photo album?

    Is there a charity that needs help accomplishing something? Serving in or leading by organizing short projects are always fulfilling.

    You get the idea...

    Not arguing with you, however I tried completing things... and it actually made me a little worse. And some self esteem is really just image. I developed bulimia because I thought I was fat and shortly after that was told I had anxiety... mentally, I think I'm a good person... and maybe his girlfriend is similar too. And it takes one heck of an a*shole to tell someone they look horrible - a person like that is only upset with their flaws. :) Once again not arguing your point. I do agree that helps for people who have low self esteem in many aspects.
  • Oct 13, 2008, 07:03 PM
    JBeaucaire
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bural21 View Post
    Not arguing with you, however I tried completing things... and it actually made me a little worse. And some self esteem is really just image. I developed bulimia because I thought I was fat and shortly after that was told I had anxiety... mentally, I think I'm a good person... and maybe his girlfriend is similar too. And it takes one heck of an a*shole to tell someone they look horrible - a person like that is only upset with their flaws. :) Once again not arguing your point., I do agree that helps for people who have low self esteem in many aspects.

    Understood. Thanks for the background comparison.

    I admit it's no cureall, but so much bad self-esteem is directly caused by so much self-focus. Anything that interferes with that habit is good. Helping others always makes you feel good, and anytime that happens it's a win that can't be removed.

    A lot to think about, for sure.
  • Oct 14, 2008, 04:10 PM
    NItEMArE129

    I think that you both have valid points, and its more of a formula if you will. You need different parts to it or it will not work, so just focusing on little things or just focusing on big things might not cut it.
  • Oct 22, 2008, 04:35 PM
    NItEMArE129
    She has to kiss another guy
    Threads merged


    Hey all, my girlfriend is a very talented actor. She also sings very well, and recently this has lead her to try out for a play which she made. The problem, however, is that, in a scene, she has to kiss another guy and is constantly flirting with him as though in a relationship. I can't stand the thought of watching her kiss another guy, and while I would be able to get over it, I'm worried that I'll overreact to her acting and take it for real and that she WANTS to kiss this other guy. So am I being too protective and jealous, or is my jealousy justified? And if I am being unreasonable, can anybody give me advice to how I can soothe my jealous side?
  • Oct 22, 2008, 05:00 PM
    jrsg

    You asked if you are being reasonable...
    What do you even want her to do about this? What would you like to see happen?

    And I'm sure this happens all the time. Your feelings are definitely understandable, and they are natural emotions to something like this.
  • Oct 22, 2008, 05:02 PM
    NItEMArE129

    What I want is for her not to have to kiss this guy. But as this is unavoidable, I want to know how to, if not eliminate my jealousy, at least make it bearable.
  • Oct 22, 2008, 05:27 PM
    JBeaucaire

    Don't watch the play. Keep the stress to a minimum, keep the comments to yourself. A supportive boyfriends supports by thinking of her, not himself.
  • Oct 22, 2008, 05:43 PM
    Fr_Chuck

    Acting is acting, done all the time in plays, movies and TV throughout american. It is not sexual, and not a desire and there is no emotoinal connection.

    So is what you are feeling normal, yes of course, I would not like it either but it is something you have to get used to.
  • Oct 23, 2008, 08:04 AM
    neverme

    How long have ye been together?
  • Oct 23, 2008, 04:28 PM
    NItEMArE129

    We've been dating for almost 5 months now.
  • Oct 24, 2008, 10:40 AM
    AWess

    Make a joke out of it, not a big deal! Your girlfriend should know how you're feeling about it and should help you out of your insecurity. It's normal to feel that way, but you got to work on it.

    And if ever that turns out to be more than a superficial kiss and flirting, well, you'll know you should move on. But I really don't think it will be necessary...
  • Oct 25, 2008, 11:37 PM
    BlessdWitTalenT

    I would have told my girl to drop out the play. I tell her all the time I don't even want her to touch other guys period. I get really jealous and I go crazy for stupid things sometimes. But in the end as long as she's not cheating on you, you should be fine with it after a while. Just set down your rules
  • Oct 25, 2008, 11:41 PM
    411Help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BlessdWitTalenT View Post
    i would have told my girl to drop out the play. i tell her all the time i dont even want her to touch other guys period. i get really jealous and i go crazy for stupid things sometimes. but in the end as long as shes not cheating on you, you should be fine with it after a while. just set down your rules

    That jealousy of yours will cause your girlfriend to sprint towards the exit.
  • Oct 26, 2008, 06:52 AM
    NItEMArE129

    Im not going to tell her to drop the play because I know how much she loves acting and this is her first lead. I just need to know a better way to deal with my jealousy because, yes, I am going to the play. So sorry JB but I can't go with your solution =[. Any other tips?
  • Oct 26, 2008, 07:00 AM
    ISneezeFunny

    The more you seem jealous and upset about this situation, the more she'll be inclined to leave you for this guy.

    She's with YOU because she likes you. If you act nonchalant and cool about this, then you'll have become the bigger man and she may even be more attracted to you as you seem so confident in yourself about the relationship.

    Be that whiny needy and jealous guy, and it shows off your bad side. Support her, go to the play, and make a joke or two (keep this at a minimum!) about it, then move on.
  • Oct 26, 2008, 07:33 AM
    kitten420

    I wouldn't worry too much about her being in a play. Most likley its nothing emotional and she is just doing what she loves best and that is acting. Most likley you knew she loved to act when or before you got together. Just be there and support her. Let her do what she loves you can't act like this every time she has a kissing scene in a play. Your emotions are normal I'm sure... but you just need to know that she cares about you and the kiss means nothing. Its not like she is doing late night rehersals with the guy at his house. If that ever comes to action then I would start to worry. Until then trust her and know she is just doing what she loves to do and support her.
  • Oct 26, 2008, 08:15 AM
    AWess
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NItEMArE129 View Post
    Im not gonna tell her to drop the play because I know how much she loves acting and this is her first lead. I just need to know a better way to deal with my jealousy because, yes, I am going to the play. So sorry JB but i can't go with your solution =[. Any other tips?

    Okay, listen: you got to make a huge effort to not get extremely jealous while you're there at the play. If it might help, bring a good (guy) funny friend to be there with you and support you. Let him know you're freaking out about that kiss and he might be able to help you out a bit. And when the play is over, go see your girlfriend and do not emphasize that kiss, but be really cool about it and as I said, make a joke out of it. Let her know it was indeed something you had to deal with and conceal as much as possible, but also reassure her that you get it was part of the job (part of the play). And then kiss her the best way you can so she forgets the other one... :D I am sure she will be stressed out about the kiss and about the whole play, too and will need some reassurance.

    Relax, you'll get over it if you make an effort to! And yes, your jealousy IS justified, but you got to work on it...
  • Oct 26, 2008, 08:51 AM
    NItEMArE129

    Thanks AWess, and I know the perfect guy to bring there. Haha and what do you mean by concealing it?
  • Oct 26, 2008, 10:25 AM
    ISneezeFunny

    Concealing it... means even though you might be angry, push it down, and leave it alone. By the time the play is over, it's over and done with, right?
  • Oct 26, 2008, 10:37 AM
    AWess
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NItEMArE129 View Post
    Thanks AWess, and I know the perfect guy to bring there. Haha and what do you mean by concealing it?

    Great! Then, it's going to be just fine. :)
  • Oct 26, 2008, 06:32 PM
    BlessdWitTalenT
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 411Help View Post
    That jealousy of yours will cause your girlfriend to sprint towards the exit.

    If that would have happened it would have happened a year ago. Were both jealous freaks
  • Oct 26, 2008, 06:34 PM
    BlessdWitTalenT
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ISneezeFunny View Post
    The more you seem jealous and upset about this situation, the more she'll be inclined to leave you for this guy.

    She's with YOU because she likes you. If you act nonchalant and cool about this, then you'll have become the bigger man and she may even be more attracted to you as you seem so confident in yourself about the relationship.

    Be that whiny needy and jealous guy, and it shows off your bad side. Support her, go to the play, and make a joke or two (keep this at a minimum!) about it, then move on.

    I don't think this is true at all. If you seem so cool about it and act likes it nothing she'll think its OK for her to do those types of things and maybe she'll start hanging out with guys and stuff and something could happen. You got to see both sides of the page
  • Oct 26, 2008, 06:54 PM
    AWess
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BlessdWitTalenT View Post
    i dont think this is true at all. if you seem so cool about it and act likes it nothing she'll think its ok for her to do those types of things and maybe she'll start hanging out with guys and stuff and something could happen. you gotta see both sides of the page

    No, she won't think it's OK for her to do "those types of things". Everyone knows "those types of things" are never OK.
  • Oct 26, 2008, 07:23 PM
    411Help

    No, she will look at you as a mature person and will want to be with you more.
  • Oct 26, 2008, 07:31 PM
    NItEMArE129

    Doesn't it really depend on the girl?
  • Oct 26, 2008, 07:36 PM
    E21
    I'm sure she doesn't want to kiss this guy. I don't think you have anything to worry about, it's only a play after all, it's not like she's cheating on you. But, you said she is "constantly flirting with him as though in a relationship"... That, I would be concerned about. I can see where the jealousy could come in if she is flirting with this guy outside of the play. I would try talking to her about the flirting issue, but don't bring up the kiss because it's irrelevant since she's only acting.
  • Oct 26, 2008, 08:34 PM
    AWess
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NItEMArE129 View Post
    Doesn't it really depend on the girl?

    It sure does depend, but I think any mature girl would understand that her boyfriend might get jealous. Yet, the better the boyfriend manages to deal with it and being cool about it, the more pleased she'll be with being with having him as boyfriend. (This is how I see it, but I've never cheated and I would never even think of doing so. Really!)
  • Oct 27, 2008, 02:47 PM
    NItEMArE129

    E21, I'm sorry, but I meant that the CHARACTER in the play is flirty a lot. So it's not her, it's in the play haha.
  • Oct 27, 2008, 03:41 PM
    E21
    Oooh, OK :) Well then, you have nothing to worry about! Just remind yourself that she's only acting, and the kiss will be over with quickly.
  • Oct 28, 2008, 04:40 PM
    Rainbow0077

    Talk to her about it and see. If she's that into the play then she'd care less about him and just wants to do the play for what it is. When you see her on that stage, just remember, she's not the same person she really is, she's someone else. Just looks like&sounds like her.
  • Oct 28, 2008, 06:00 PM
    NItEMArE129

    I have another question too. The play airs twice, and she has to kiss him both tims. Should I just go to one? Or would it be better to go to both?
  • Oct 28, 2008, 06:08 PM
    E21
    I'd say only go to one. Go to the first showing, then if you think it's going to drive you crazy not being there when she has to do the kiss the second time, you can go to the next show too. I think you'll find that you're relieved after you actually see it. You'll be wondering why you were even concerned in the first place.
  • Oct 28, 2008, 06:10 PM
    NItEMArE129

    Haha Idk about that... I'm the overprotective, paranoid, and jealous kind of guy (though I try not to overdo it). Fortunately she thinks its cute. =]
  • Oct 28, 2008, 06:13 PM
    E21
    Trust me, I know how that goes too, I'm a pretty jealous person when it comes to certain things as well. It's must just be in our nature. She thinks it's cute now, that's good, just don't become too overprotective, and everything will be good :)
  • Oct 28, 2008, 06:23 PM
    Kati-Katt

    Maybe she does want to kiss him, but that's only a possibility. If she really likes you then you got to back down on the paranoria. And yes it is completely normal to feel jelous towards it I mean for f*** sakes she's your girlfriend, but think of it as only a stage kiss and means nothing at all whatsoever.
  • Oct 29, 2008, 02:25 PM
    AWess
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NItEMArE129 View Post
    I have another question too. The play airs twice, and she has to kiss him both tims. Should I just go to one? Or would it be better to go to both?

    One
  • Nov 16, 2008, 08:57 AM
    NItEMArE129
    She's moving 9 hours away
    Threads merged


    Ok, well my girlfriend of more than 5 months is most likely moving to the other coast. It all depends on what happens to her father's job, and neither option is very optimistic. Either he gets a promotion and they move, or he gets fired. I honestly don't know how to deal with this. I can't stand the thought of breaking up, but I also know that most, if not all, long-distance relationships don't work out. At the very least, she would be there for 3 years before we could be close to each other. So I want to know how I should deal with this problem and if anybody who has been in this situation before knows about anything I can do to make it more bearable.
  • Nov 16, 2008, 09:23 AM
    talaniman

    If you're the only one doing the pushing, it's a waste of time.
  • Nov 16, 2008, 09:28 AM
    talaniman

    You can let her go, and live your own life, or be pen pals for a while, and see what happens. What does she want to do??

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