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  • Sep 8, 2008, 05:45 AM
    cowboyjai
    I hear you bro. Don't be ashamed of crying, man, the first week I cried for days. I felt so sick to my stomach I almost vomitted. No one has ever seen me break like that, and, if I can help it, nobody ever will again. I don't want to feel like that either. That's why whenever I have a memory pop up, I just switch straight to 'no more memories, no more thoughts'. Not even anything justified about why I can't think about the memory etc etc. Just a blank 'no more memories, no more thoughts'.

    I think the next time we get into a relationship man, we should both be careful about the way we approach it mentally. Because I know even if the next chick says it'll last forever, that it's probably not going to.

    No contact man. Maybe once we're in a better place... But yeah. No contact. Me and you bro. Thousands have done this before us. We can make it too.
  • Sep 8, 2008, 06:07 AM
    wikedjuggalo
    I get paid today, so that's something to look forward too. It won't be a big check but a little money. I might plan a trip somewhere when I get my refund check from school. That would be something nice. Maybe I'll go bowling today or I might even go geocaching.

    Also another hard part is I'm not sure how to meet people. I know that's advice but I'm really not sure how I do this. Just going to keep myself open, not closed, someone asks if I want to do, I should. Well unless its getting drunk because I know I'm not ready for that, as the when him and my mother broke happened to my father and he became an alcoholic for 8 years.

    But I need to leave to my college now, have class soon. Thanks everyone for your comments.
  • Sep 8, 2008, 06:31 AM
    cowboyjai
    Also another hard part is I'm not sure how to meet people. I know that's advice but I'm really not sure how I do this. Just going to keep myself open, not closed, someone asks if I wanna do, I should. Well unless its getting drunk because I know I'm not ready for that, as the when him and my mother broke happened to my father and he became an alcoholic for 8 years.

    This is something I'm trying to get through as well. I read somewhere, on some site, that basically just don't decline any social invitation. Sometime invites, you go. I've been doing that. A lot of these things have been to parties where the chicks were.. basically.. not really my type. But I went anyway. Meet people. Meet old friends. Basically it feels good to just get out there, and know you're not at home moping around.

    When I do find out where some good places to meet chicks are I'll let you know.
  • Sep 8, 2008, 07:36 AM
    busterite
    Quote:

    When you're in a long-term relationship like us man, and they walk, not only do you lose your girlfriend - you lose the plans you made for the future, you lose possibly your best friend, you lose your family (if at any point you started to consider her family), and in a way, you lose the memories. I can't think of any memories at all, good or bad, since there's nothing good that comes with thinking about them now. I've locked them up and thrown away the key. Not sure if it's healthy, but it's the only thing that I can do with them.
    I totally agree with you. Looking back I can see that at some point I considered her to be more of family to me than my family, which was wrong but at the time I felt like it was the right thing to do. I knew her sister long before I knew my ex and I got along really well with her parents and her whole extended family and friends. They adored me and would always talk to others in the best possible way about me. They told me they had never seen her so happy in their life and could not understand what it was I had done to her. That is why she still hasn't told them what really happened and why we really broke up, because she knows she treated me wrong and that they would judge her heavily for that. She thought I would go around bad mouthing her to everyone and asked me to keep it all a secret. And that really hurt because it showed how little she knew me. But like you I always maintained my decency and was fully rational about all this. I felt weak but was able to think rational. So where I am getting at is that now you might think that the fact that you acted so maturely was irrelevant but believe me it does. It shows great strength and I am positive you will get through this. When things clear up in your mind you will look back and there will be nothing you regret doing or not doing during this time.

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    I will get through it. But man its hard. I am trying to keep my head up. I don't want to feel like this. I did cry, I admit it, I woke on one morning last week and just cried. For a good hour and half. I felt emptiness, like something tore away something from my heart. I don't ever want to feel like that again.
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    Crying, feeling emtpiness, feeling torn, feeling as if you were robbed, feeling betrayed, as if you were fooled. These and a million more feelings are normal at a time like this. If anything crying and feeling all this is a good thing because your emotions are surfacing, keeping stuff inside and suppressing them would not be healthy. It is part of the mourning process so don't feel ashamed about any of that. I understand you with the dreams and sometimes they feel so real and make you feel so vulnerable. As soon as you wake up from them just tell yourself that you are safe and no one can hurt you anymore but yourself and that things will get better. Keep saying that to yourself.


    [QUOTE]Also another hard part is I'm not sure how to meet people.

    You mentioned you have just started going to college so I would say you are in an excellent position to meet people. Take advantage of it. Just remain open to new people and new experiences. See what has happened as an opportunity to meet new people, live new things, some which you will enjoy. Possibly join a club or pick up on a new hobby. You have been given the chance to start something new, what is it that you always wanted to do but because you were in a relationship you hesitated? Take that as a starting point. I was always abit of a control freak in the sense that I always felt like I needed to know where I am heading in terms of my career, my life. During this past year I had managed to align everything after many years of efforts. I had managed to get a really good job which I enjoyed, be in the same city as my ex (as we had a long distance relationship for the 6mths before that) had good friends around me and generally I felt like things had finally taken their course for me. But some things are beyond our control and I realised that you have just got to let go and wait and see what life is going to throw at you next. For the past 2 months I have let things take their own course and out of nowhere old friends started contacting me wanting to hang out and I have met a whole new bunch of people which have filled a big part of the gap I was feeling. All I am saying is get out there, start doing things and keep yourself open to new opportunities. One thing that is for sure is do not stay at home all the time. As my signature says I firmly believe that people happen to opportunities so you have just got to put yoursefl out there and just wait and see what comes next.
  • Sep 8, 2008, 12:19 PM
    wikedjuggalo
    Today was hard at school, sitting through a physics lecture was very boring. It was hard to keep my mind from wondering on to thoughts of her, and also this happened in my Pre-Cal class. But in my humanities class, I meet up with my brothers friend who is a lesbian and she made me feel better. But after class while driving home my mind started to wonder. I tried to tell myself that its over and things happen for a reason. Its out of my hands. It was hard, I wanted to see if she is happy but I know it won't do anything but make me feel worse so I put that idea away.

    I woke up twice last night both times because I had a dream. I felt like screaming but I didn't, I posted on here and tried to lay back down. The first one messed with my head. I was standing there and she was on her knee begging me back, and I told her she had to do 2 things before I'd consider it. One was get tested, I went on to explain it wasn't about sex, but to prove. The other was kneel down and ask me back from her heart. This one messed with me pretty bad because in the dream it happened, she did it.


    Why do we allow ourselves to be hurt like this? I mean I guess you can't have that feeling of being loved without the polar opposite, that of being hurt. I wish I could just fast forward to when the hurt stops. Just skip the painful time. I am tired but I am going to go play something or wash my car.
  • Sep 8, 2008, 02:06 PM
    Animal0126
    I think if you really want her that bad then go after her. Then make her realize how big of a mistake she made by choosing the other guy. Make her want you back.
  • Sep 8, 2008, 02:19 PM
    wikedjuggalo
    If it was that easy, she gave me her answer and she will have to see what a mistake she made. I wish but she made her choice I would like nothing more for us to be happy together again but she choose to attempt things with him. If she realizes what a mistake she made down the road we'll see where I'm at, I do love her. I hope she comes back to me but as of this moment I have to try and heal. Its only been 3 days since she gave me her answer.

    That comment has made me wonder more now :( Now I just want to contact her even more. I am going to wash my car, get out of this house.
  • Sep 8, 2008, 02:59 PM
    cowboyjai
    I wonder too sometimes. Should I chase my ex? Then I realize Im still afraid to walk away. It's already happened. I sometimes think she'll be waiting for me when I get home. She never is man. The fact is there's not a lot we can do right now if they just aren't keen. All we can do is walk and try not to look back. It sucks but I'm sure deep down you must agree.
  • Sep 8, 2008, 03:02 PM
    wikedjuggalo
    I do, if its meant to be she will contact me, this sucks.
  • Sep 8, 2008, 03:16 PM
    busterite
    Stick with NC! Do not go after her. If anything you will push her further away. She has made her choice. The fact that you should not go after her is not a matter of pride or ego it is a way to protect yourself from getting exposed to something that will make you feel 100 times worse than you are now. Believe me I have been where you are now. Over the last week together she took me through the whole process going on through her mind while deciding whether she wants to be with me. We always had a very trusting relationship and talked about everything but in this case the stuff I heard over that week was hell and certain comments she made would come back to me for weeks to come. I then saw some pictures of her and the other guy on Facebook. That completely destroyed me and the dreams I had for a week were extremely disturbing. Leave things as they are. You do not want to come across or hear stuff that will make the healing process longer. You have done everything that was possible to show her you really love her more than anything and I am sure she knows that and is not easy for her either (that doesn't mean though that she wants to come back). Everything is still really recent and raw and although you have done an amazing effort to deal with all this you still need to do your best to protect yourself remember that. YOU COME FIRST NOW! No one can hurt you now but yourself! Stay strong man and don't give in to those emotions. When you get the urge to contact her come on here and write or call someone else. Tell a friend of yours or a family member that you will need them now and that if you end up calling them frequent its because of what you are going through. You have said that you have always helped people so I would say that its time someone else helps you. There are loads of people here to support you to start with but having someone close also helps.
  • Sep 8, 2008, 03:36 PM
    cowboyjai
    busterite is on the money man. You HAVE to protect yourself now. God knows the thoughts are bad enough - I think if I encountered something like that for real I'd be scared of what I'd do. Be vigilant and stay away, both from her and any information about her. You do not want to expose yourself to more pain.
  • Sep 8, 2008, 04:07 PM
    wikedjuggalo
    Which is why I left my house and went to clean my car. This chapter in my life sucks. Only thing I have looking forward to atm is the 2,000 dollar check coming from school. If she decides she made a bad choice and decides to contact me it will be my decision to choose what I do, and most say NC but I would feel inclined to hear her out and judge if she is just BS'ing or genuine. I hate this. I really do. I have read over numerous post that NC is best, that chasing does nothing but make a bad situation worse on yourself. So I will contiune to do my damnedest not to contact. Am I really doing better then most, I feel like I'm not.
  • Sep 8, 2008, 04:22 PM
    friend4u178
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Animal0126
    I think if you really want her that bad then go after her. Then make her realize how big of a mistake she made by choosing the other guy. Make her want you back.

    This will only prolong the process.
  • Sep 8, 2008, 05:43 PM
    wikedjuggalo
    I cleaned my car, and played some COD4 I feel a little better but thoughts are still racing.
  • Sep 8, 2008, 06:21 PM
    friend4u178
    Your thoughts will race from time to time , this is also normal. You just have to remember you are still fresh from the breakup and it takes time. And as time goes you will find yourself thinking about it less and less.

    Its not easy I know and that sucks , but hey if it were easy you wouldn't be here.
  • Sep 8, 2008, 07:34 PM
    wikedjuggalo
    I am going to try and get some sleep its been a rough day. I hope I don't wake up a lot tonight.

    This morning has been hard. Thoughts keep coming and I am doing my best to not think about it. I woke up a lot last night, but no contact. I am feeling down again but trying to look up its been 1 week and a day since it ended. The pain in my chest is still there.

    Today at school was hard. It felt like slow motion and nothing itself was real. I felt like a zombie. I don't know if it's the lack of sleep or what else. I have had this pain in my chest all day. I believe I had a panic attack after my Pre cal class. I was walking across campus to my car to leave to get something to eat. My chest tightened and it was hard to breath, my chest also hurt and just a general spurt of crap feeling came over me. After that walk I wasn't able to eat even a simple chicken sandwich. Today has been a hard day and its only half over.
  • Sep 9, 2008, 12:43 PM
    busterite
    Quote:

    Thoughts keep coming and I am doing my best to not think about it. I woke up a lot last night, but no contact. I am feeling down again but trying to look up its been 1 week and a day since it ended. The pain in my chest is still there.
    It has only been 1 week and all this is very rough but you just need to hang on in there. It is not easy I know but you just need to give it time. With time the ups and down will become more normalised and your mind will take over control of the emotions believe me.


    Quote:

    It felt like slow motion and nothing itself was real. I felt like a zombie.
    This is firstly because of the lack of sleep and secondly because you haven't been able to eat properly. Try forcing yourself to eat something. I know the zombie feeling. There are a million thoughts going through your brain and you probably just feel tired and numb. This is a normal reaction of the brain. Don't think of that too much, time will resolve this and not far from now you will be able to eat normally and get a whole nights sleep.


    Quote:

    Today has been a hard day and its only half over.
    Yes but now you are closer to the day when you will be able to go through a whole day without counting the hours.
  • Sep 9, 2008, 01:33 PM
    Animal0126
    I know that this hurts you, but you sound like you really love her... and the pain in your chest that you keep feeling is a broken heart trying to mend itself. These things hurt, but quite frankly if I were you, I would go after her and at least try to talk to her.
  • Sep 9, 2008, 01:45 PM
    wikedjuggalo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Animal0126
    I know that this hurts you, but you sound like you really love her... and the pain in your chest that you keep feeling is a broken heart trying to mend itself. These things hurt, but quite frankly if I were you, I would go after her and at least try to talk to her.

    It hasn't been that long, I'd love to case after her but in the end it will do nothing she choose. I told her exactly how I felt and maybe in time she will realize but I will not crawl and beg back to her. I didn't do this, I shouldn't have to, I told her how I felt, she knows I love her and I can't force her to be with me. The relationship won't last between them because I know what she likes and he can't offer that.

    Its not about if I love her, its about if she loves me. I know people make mistakes but I can't change what happened. I played my hand I was dealt as best as I could. I didn't push her away by calling texting anything. I gave her, her space. I Didn't GO AND KISS ANOTHER GIRL AND SAY I'm CONFUSED. I found myself kind of liking a girl about 6 months into our relationship but I knew that I didn't want to loose what I had so I let that ship sail away to WV.

    If she wants to talk, I'll listen but I won't open myself to hurt again. I can let the past go when its in the past.

    But giving myself false hope at this time won't help me. It will hurt me more if it doesn't happen. I have started the NC a week ago, she called me Friday last week and told me she wanted to date this guy. I told her I love her and always will. I told her if she finds she made a mistake down the road, If I'm not with someone WE'LL TALK, but that does not mean I will take her back. I Told her that. I know I made her happy, I know she made me happy. I told her I will always hold a place in my heart, I told her I do hope everything works out great between her and him. She asked if we could remain friends I told her not right now, I have to take her out my life at this point which I told her included removing her myspace and stuff. I don't wish Ill will, I just hurt.
  • Sep 9, 2008, 01:53 PM
    Animal0126
    I understand. You just need to do what's best for you and what you think will help you in the long run.
  • Sep 9, 2008, 03:14 PM
    wikedjuggalo
    I didn't mean to come off rude for you posting. I do want her back, but I can't force her back.

    I feel a little better, an old friend (girl) I knew back in the 9th grade I talked to today. I found out she had always had a crush on me and as did I (I was too much of a sissy to act on them at that time) but had moved away. She went through what I am going through about 6 months ago.

    Not that I thinking I should pursue a relationship its just nice to talk. My chest is still hurting and its kind of hard to breath . I am still hurting.
  • Sep 9, 2008, 08:04 PM
    BrewCrew0981
    You'll hurt for a while, wiked. I'm going on 6 weeks after a breakup of 7 years. It still hurts me every day. But, I'm WAY better than I used to be. You'll get there, bro. Just take it one day at a time and concentrate on YOU. There is no one controlling your life now but YOU. YOU now have full control over your own fate. Enjoy that freedom.
  • Sep 10, 2008, 01:01 AM
    wikedjuggalo
    Its 4 in the morning again. I can't sleep, I'm so tired but my mind keeps racing with thoughts. I just want to scream. I want to talk to her so bad. But I know I can't it will hurt me more.

    I work up to my chest hurting again. I had 2 dreams of her last night both involved me getting back with her. I felt like screaming. I just can't stop my subconscious mind from projecting this. I finally just crashed last night I was numb to everything. I work up at about 3 am after the dream. It sucked I couldn't go to sleep, my body was tired but my mind kept me awake. I felt like my body itself was sleeping but my mind wouldn't.
  • Sep 10, 2008, 05:58 AM
    busterite
    Quote:

    I just can't stop my subconscious mind from projecting this.
    Unfortunately the nights are the hardest because you have no control of your mind and the thoughts keep racing. Unfortunately the fact that your mind isn't allowing you to go back to sleep is a reaction meachanism that protects you. When you are awake you can block things out one way or another and you feel better so subconsciously you are keeping yourself awake. See this is like a fresh wound at the moment and anything that goes on it stings so what your mind is doing is trying to prevent anything from hurting you. With time the wound will heal and will start hurting less. Drinking something to calm you down (something natural like camomile) is a good idea. To be honest I went through similar things and there is no magic recipe I can give you. Just stay focused and keep in mind that this won't last forever.
  • Sep 10, 2008, 11:34 AM
    wikedjuggalo
    I had a very weird experience today. People might read this and think he's crazy but let me go into detail. In my life I have dreams, and these dreams depict a real life situation. When I have these dreams I know it but then they slip away (the memories). They often have me going through and feeling as if I have lived that moment in time before. Most times its just irrelevant stuff like driving somewhere but it hits me when it happens like wait... I've been here. And then the memories of the dream surface. You might think I'm crazy but I not.

    Today it happened to me but it was different. I was sitting in my humanities class watching a movie, in this movie a guy bends down to pick up a white handkerchief a girl dropped, at that moment it hit me and a feeling of everything is going to be all right and calmness came over me. I knew I had seen it before and it tied into something else but at that moment I felt eased. I couldn't remember the other part of the "dream" but I just had a gut feeling something good came out of it.

    Idk you probably are thinking this guys is crazy.

    I am hurting again. I'm really sad. I want to talk to her so bad but I know no contact is best for me. I wish I could sleep one night without waking up a lot. I felt kind of numb at school today like a zombie again. Its really sucking. I've spent the last half hour with tears in my eyes. The pain in my chest came back and I am trying to keep my mind occupied. I am going to run to the store in a minute. Try to clear my head.
  • Sep 10, 2008, 05:10 PM
    BrewCrew0981
    You need to surrender whatever control you think you have. People still remember their loves from 40, 50, 60 years ago and think about them sometimes. I still think of my first love and that was almost 15 years ago. You'll get better with time and NC. Just stick with it. As the sticky says "it WILL get better, even if it's nanobits each morning."
  • Sep 10, 2008, 08:44 PM
    411Help
    Man, all I can tell you is that the only remedy to these kinds of situation is TIME.

    Suggestions :

    MMA
    Boxing
    Running
    Puzzles / Mind teasers
    Cross words / ETC..

    Do whatever you can to stray your thoughts away from the situation.
  • Sep 11, 2008, 05:02 AM
    wikedjuggalo
    Well last night was a little better, but I still had a dream. I am trying to keep busy, but its very heard. I am off to school, its my long day today, 6 hours.
  • Sep 11, 2008, 12:23 PM
    wikedjuggalo
    Done with school and feeling o.k. Still tired but every time I try to sleep my mind races. I have plans with some friends tomorrow night to go bowling so we'll see how all that goes.
  • Sep 11, 2008, 01:58 PM
    BrewCrew0981
    This helped for me to get to sleep. Maybe it'll work for you.

    The thing you need to make your reality right now, is that you have ZERO control over the situation (as far as you and your ex). There is NOTHING you can do to bring her back. The sooner you accept and realize this, the sooner you will fall asleep.

    Good Luck.
  • Sep 11, 2008, 02:48 PM
    cowboyjai
    You're doing all the right things bro. You're going to start feeling better before you know it. Food for thought, NC definitely gets easier with time. You still get the odd occasional spike, but the total all-encompassing desire eventually fades away.

    I changed my phone number and email addresses too. I had/have a hard enough time dealing with this **** as it is, I don't need one loaded email from her taking that away. I wanted to remove as many variables as I could, so all I was dealing with was myself. Don't know how far you want/need to go. Think about it though.
  • Sep 11, 2008, 03:14 PM
    wikedjuggalo
    I removed all contact points except I have email memorized. I didn't have her new numbers memorized but deleted them out of my phone. Yesterday was a really bad day. I had someone enter my life again after I hadn't talked to her for about 2 or 3 years. She moved away but it as nice to catch up with her. She has talked a lot to me and knows exactly what I am going through because she is/was going through the same thing.

    I was really sad yesterday and just felt like pure sh*t. I ended up crying again. I went to Walmart to get some headphones and the guy at the counter was like "Dude are you alright?, your not going to pass out in here are you?" I was like not just tired.

    I am surrendering control. I can't do anything to change this. I admitted it. Hopefully I can' feel like I feel now tomorrow now. I don't feel that bad.

    Life keeps going with me going along or if I stop.
  • Sep 11, 2008, 03:33 PM
    wikedjuggalo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cowboyjai
    I wonder too sometimes. Should I chase my ex? Then I realize Im still afraid to walk away. It's already happened. I sometimes think she'll be waiting for me when I get home. She never is man. The fact is there's not a lot we can do right now if they just aren't keen. All we can do is walk and try not to look back. It sucks but I'm sure deep down you must agree.

    I have the same feeling when I walk to my car after school. That she will be waiting there for me, to beg me back. But she isn't. I find myself get jittery when I get near home because in the back of my head I hope she is waiting there for me. But she isn't. I am trying to let go.

    So far the hardest part of my day includes
    Going to sleep, mind races.
    Waking up, specially after a dream
    Times when my mind wonders.
  • Sep 11, 2008, 05:25 PM
    miniminx4
    The way I see it is that if someone really wants to be with you, they say they love you, then why are they hurting you?
    The last thing that people who are really committed to you will do is want to upset you. If they do upset you and you tell them so they will be devastated and will do whatever they can to make you happy.
    I know its harsh but perhaps you should look forward to the day when you find this person.
  • Sep 11, 2008, 05:26 PM
    wikedjuggalo
    I am looking forward to that day. I'm in the process of getting over this. It hurts and is hard. Its true if something loves you, you let it go and it will come back to you.
  • Sep 11, 2008, 05:30 PM
    miniminx4
    I know its hard but you need to look after you and try to do stuff to keep you occupied. Yes you are right... let it go and if it comes back to you it is meant to be. What's for you won't go past you!
  • Sep 12, 2008, 05:16 AM
    wikedjuggalo
    *sigh* had 2 more dreams last night. I woke and kept telling myself its over, I have no control over what happened. Was hard to get back to sleep after that. I have plans this evening to go out with some friends so that might help. I actually was able to eat yesterday which included more then just 1/2 a sandwich.

    Something good did happen yesterday, I was approved for a small grant, which added an extra 350 a semester. I have a pre cal test today so I hope I do good on that today.
  • Sep 12, 2008, 05:42 AM
    talaniman
    Hang in there buddy, it will get better, as the dreams are only a passing storm. Seeing friends for fun, will do you good. Life will balance itself out, just stay on the path, you'll see. Good luck with your test.
  • Sep 12, 2008, 06:39 AM
    busterite
    From your responses to other peoples posts I think you have gone quite a long way since your first days. As time passes by you will feel less vulnerable to the dreams and to the idea of her not being there waiting for you and wanting you back. As time passes by and you start going out, living your life, new experiences will bridge that gap you might feel and give your mind new food for thought. All this is a phase that unfortunately many people go through. Stay focused and good luck on your test today!
  • Sep 12, 2008, 12:09 PM
    wikedjuggalo
    School was kind of rough today. I did my test but didn't think I did that great on it. I had thoughts coming into my head and tried to dismiss them by telling myself its over and I have not control over it. Still hard.

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