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  • Jul 24, 2008, 06:07 PM
    marriaget
    Alrighty, look this might really really hurt you.
    I'm sad to say this but, it's kind of true... once a cheater always a cheater.
    When you forgive them once, they'll think "hey, i got away with this, who cares, she'll still be there" I'm having the same problem now, no cheating but... the guy is taking me for granted and thinks I'm always going to be there. Because I kept going back to him, kept talking to him... I couldn't admit to myself he's not going to change. You have to try to move on, just go out party have fun, be good, try another guy out. I doubt this one is good for you, show him you don't need him. & ignore him, if he truly loves you he's comes crawling back to your door , etc. Just try your best to move it, it won't be easy, TRUST ME. I doubt you'll find a guy who won't take take you for granted when you give him another chance... so yeah... think about it. (:
  • Jul 24, 2008, 11:57 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    No Contact, let him understand you need to just have some time to yourself, ask him not to contact you but that you'll contact him when you see fit. (And not that does not mean in 2 days!)
    GREAT SUGGESTION!
  • Jul 25, 2008, 03:53 AM
    Kevin_s
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman
    GREAT SUGGESTION!!

    I learned from you Talaniman! Hahah.

    Seriously, to anyone reading this. Take Talaniman's advice, feel free to go read my old threads as he has some GREAT advice.

    No sugar coating, just the truth, which is the best way to approach all of these situations.
  • Jul 25, 2008, 09:50 AM
    Rockstar714
    And that's why Talaniman is fabulous. Lol
  • Jul 25, 2008, 12:08 PM
    jenny77
    THIS HAPPENED YESTERDAY!!!!


    alrite guys...im finally 100% on wat ive decided...

    for one i will not get back with him..my aunt had lent him a bookand i had to go pick it up yesterday.. I had a feeling this would happen.. so I drove to his house and before I did I had sent him multiple textes saying to put the book in the mailbox and I don't want to see your filthy face. So he kept responding how sorry he was and blah blah blah.. I just wanted to make sure he would put it.. because I knew if he sees me he won't let me go.. I also told him to tell his dad to put it since he wasn't home which was great but he wudnt tell me if his dad was home because he's usually working.. so I didn't want to just drive there and have him not be there.

    ****the day before yesterday i put all the memories,pictures album, valentines day cards, christmas cards, even noted we passed in high school in AP chemistry, i went to his house he was home i saw his car so i quickly hung the bag with stuff on his mailbox and after i left i told him to take it...i had to take the first step to make myself get over him and doing this meant sooo much to me..it made me feel strong..so he eventually got the bag and he sent me messages saying that u see u do love me and u kno i love u ths symbolizes our love and i wrote if u loved me u wudve not done wat u did wit that girl in fact i can't even say u care about me because u just dont hurt people u care about..obviously u didnt care so love is beyond"" anyway and thats wen i had gottn a call from my aunt saying she needed her book it means a lot to her..so i told him to drop it in his mailbox...
    so back to wat i was saying..i drove to his house and there was no book in the mailbox soo i started yelling a storm in my car and i texted him a really mean text once again basically saying put it in the mailbox and go inside or ill drive off.
    while im texting this kid comes out with the bag i gave him of all of our stuff and my heart dropped wen i saw him.. I really didn't want to see him.. so I figured the book was in the bag I gave him.. he ran to my car and tried to open the door but I locked it.. his eyes were soooo puffy and teary he luked soooo depressed I've never seen him like that.. so I opened the wimdow just a little it and yelled give the f-in bag.. so he just kept saying baby just please please please listen to me for a little bit pleasee and at this point he was crying and crying non stop.. and I took the bag finally.. and I'm in the car guys he's locked out know that.. so he gives me the bag and me smart I luked inside and see that the book wasn't inside..

    It was all the stuff that I had given him the memories.. so he said baby please take them back I know how much they mean to you please.. and he said he put a letter inside for me so I took it out and I crumbled it in his face and said "it means NAAA--thingggg to me!!!!!" and he began crying to a point where he cudnt even talk...he said baby u dunt mean that..u dont.. u dont u dont!! baby pease u know i love u and i now kno how stupid i was..if u dont come back to me now i WILL earn u back and i will do everything i have to..because i deep inside my heart want u to be happy and even if its a different guy i still want the best for u believe me wen i say this but i can't even think that i kno I CAN BE THAT MAN.. I WANT TO UR MANNN and ONLY urs and u be my girl and ONLY GIRL BABY

    Things he said.. baby this was so long ago please I made a huge mistake I was immature and stupid and I can honestly say I'm the f-in stupidest guy on earth.. I had something so precious and I just threw it away( I said.. IT WAS 4 MONTHS AGO your guna tell your matured and you became a man during that time?? ) he says baby please take me back I promise you I've changed and the word please and don't leave me wer said sooo much I lost count... he said I promise I will be your man the man you deserve I will baby please give this only chance please! And he's crying.. at this point I'm yelling get me the book and he is trying to get his arms in the wimdow which he couldn't because I kept shutting it..

    than i had had it soo i lowered my window and got close to his face and said GET ME THE BOOOOKKKK!!!! im not listening to ur lies and bull just GOOOOOOOO!!!!

    he said baby i can't do that im sorry.. I can't let you goooo please don't leave meeeee and I smacked him while he was saying all this... guys I was soooooo heatted..

    wen i went not to sound conceated lol but i luked hott i had my nice and my glasses on the thing that reallllyyyy got him emotional was wen i said luk at mee..(i pulled up my sunglasses) and said u see......not one tear...luk whose crying now..luk whose begging now and i smiled..he just BROKEEE down.

    Than I had also told him this.. I took off my sunglasses again and said "listen move on I'm never guna get back with u... and omg that was the worst thing ever for him... I said I don't feel bad for... and he kept begging baby at least let me sit in your car and talk please.. ive been sooo depressed I can't function I can't breath your my life and I'm not letting you go.. baby disrespected my family and yours by my dumb action and most of all you... I don't care what you say to me say what ever you want because I deserve it(guys I've never hit him before.. ive never cursed at him never because we HAD respect but now that its all gone it kills him for me to talk to him this way)

    OK SO I GOT REALLY MAD RAN OUT OF MY CAR AND RAN INTO HIS HOUSE..HE RAN AFTER ME AND I WENT TO LUK FOR THE BOOK AND MY LUCK HE HID IT..HE KNOWS ME TOO WELL..SO I BEGAN SCREAMING WHERE IS THE BOOK..HE PICKED UP THE CRUMBLED BABY HE WANTED ME TO READ FROM MY CAR AND HE BEGAN READING IT OUT LOUD..IT WAS A PAGE FROM HIS JOURNAL FROM WEN ME AND HIM FIRST HUNG OUT AND HOW MUCH HE LIKED ME..I TOOOK IT OUT OF HAND AND SLAPPED HIM WITH IT..GUYS I CUDN CONTROL MY SELF IM USUALLY THE GIRL THATS ANTI PHYSICAL ABUSE LOL BUT I CUDNT CONTROL MY SELF. HE ONLY BLOCKED ME AND KEPT TALKING AND SAYING FORGIVE ME PLEASEEE AND SH-IT. FINALLY HE GAVE ME THE BOOK CUZ I WAS GOING CRAZYYY CUZ I WNTED TO LEAVE HIS HOUSE WE WERE IN HIS ROOM U KNO..HIS BED WAS RITE THERE AND IT HURT ME TO LUK AT IT CUZ WE SHARED A LOT OF SPECIAL MOMENTS ON IT AND NOT JUST LOVE MAKING. ANYWAY I GOT THE BOOK AND RAN SOOOOO FAST OUT HIS HOUSE AND HE WAS RITE BEHIND ME..HE WANTED TO HOLD AND STUFF BUT HE KNEW THAT WAS THE WORST THING HE CUD DOO..CUZ I WUD FLIPP A SH-IT. SO WEN I GOT IN MY CAR HE RAN IN AND HE SAT IN THE PASSENGER SEAT!!!OMG I WAS SOOO PISSED..ALL I WANTED WAS THE DAM BOOK AND I CUDNT GET IT ANY WAY ELSE CUZ ONLY HE KNEW WHERE IT WAS AND HE WUDNT DROP IT OFF AT MY AUNTS!! HE DID IT CUZ HE WANTED TO C ME AND TALK. AND I WENT THERE KNOWING THIS BUT I ALSO DID IT SO HE CAN C HOW MUCH IM OVER HIM IN JUST 2 DAYS!!

    So he of course continued to say a whole lot of bull... baby listen I can't let you leave me please give a chance and I promise you it will change and I will stay at my aunts house and be home every weekend and but I didn't care and he said he would come home during the week sometimes because his aunt lives between his schol and my house. He could come home half the time...
    i said listen get this in ur puny brain my heart is sealed and i can NEVER let u back in u understand??u betrayed my trust for u and its all been lies after lies!!!!im screaming these sentences and hes crying like a lil baby. i can never satisfy u after wat u did..u had sex with me and than with her and than WITH MEE!! do u understand..congradulations u got wat u effin wanted and now u can be free and screw as many girls as u want!! because im stronger and numb from the pain that i dont bother to care anymore. after this pain i can handle anything and that means letting u go((((dammm im mad nice hahahah)and he began cryingggggggggggggg and cryingggggggggg and cryingggggggggg he couldn't even talk from his tears.. i said to him i dont feel bad for u and before u had told me baby dont ever think that u were never good enough because ur the best girlfriend any guy can ask for... i said ITS NOT THAT I WAS NEVER GOOD OF FOR U...ITS THAT I WAS TOOOOOOOO GOOD FOR YOU) another nice one by mee haha and his last thing he said to me was I promise I'm going to earn you back and I don't care how long it takes because your my life.. I said what the hell do you want from me! Its not guna happen and he refused to accept that. I had also told him listen this is just a phase you may feel like now but your guna eventually forget me and move on I mean I am, I'm going out this weekend with kayla and he broke down once again... and he said no baby please donttt.. I can't have you be wit other guys and I said watch mee and smiled.. OK the end my fingers hurt haha

    OK so that's my 1st love tragic ending story please comment if you have advice for me regarding my future with this cheater, I can only say that I am in love with him and I told him listen I want to be with you soooooooooooooo bad as much as u BUT I can't and he said yes you can baby please but I didn't listen.. maybe in like year or sumtin maybe we can start all over? But I don't think I can with the way I feel now you know but people do deserve another chance and they also deserved to be punished. His punishment is never seeing me... give me some advice ;)
  • Jul 25, 2008, 12:17 PM
    hjpan
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jenny77
    THIS HAPPENED YESTERDAY!!!!


    alrite guys...im finally 100% on wat ive decided...

    for one i will not get back with him..my aunt had lent him a bookand i had to go pick it up yesterday..i had a feeling this wud happen..so i drove to his house and b4 i did i had sent him multiple textes saying to put the book in the mailbox and i dont want to see ur filthy face. so he kept responding how sorry he was and blah blah blah..i just wanted to make sure he wud put it..cuz i knew if he sees me he wont let me go.. i also told him to tell his dad to put it since he wasnt home which was great but he wudnt tell me if his dad was home because hes usually working..so i didnt wana just drive there and have him not be there.

    the day before yesterday i put all the memories,pictures album, valentines day cards, christmas cards, even noted we passed in high school in AP chemistry, i went to his house he was home i saw his car so i quickly hung the bag with stuff on his mailbox and after i left i told him to take it...i had to take the first step to make myself get over him and doing this meant sooo much to me..it made me feel strong..so he eventually got the bag and he sent me messages saying that u see u do love me and u kno i love u ths symbolizes our love and i wrote if u loved me u wudve not done wat u did wit that girl in fact i can't even say u care about me because u just dont hurt people u care about..obviously u didnt care so love is beyond"" anyway and thats wen i had gottn a call from my aunt saying she needed her book it means a lot to her..so i told him to drop it in his mailbox...
    so back to wat i was saying..i drove to his house and there was no book in the mailbox soo i started yelling a storm in my car and i texted him a really mean text once again basically saying put it in the mailbox and go inside or ill drive off.

    while im texting this kid comes out with the bag i gave him of all of our stuff and my heart dropped wen i saw him.. i really didnt want to see him..so i figured the book was in the bag i gave him..he ran to my car and tried to open the door but i locked it..his eyes were soooo puffy and teary he luked soooo depressed ive never seen him like that..so i opened the wimdow just a little it and yelled give the f-in bag..so he just kept saying baby just please please please listen to me for a little bit pleasee and at this point he was crying and crying non stop..and i took the bag finally..and im in the car guys hes locked out kno that..so he gives me the bag and me smart i luked inside and see that the book wasnt inside..

    it was all the stuff that i had given him the memories..so he said baby please take them back i kno how much they mean to u please..and he said he put a letter inside for me so i took it out and i crumbled it in his face and said "it means NAAA--thingggg to me!!!!!" and he began crying to a point where he cudnt even talk...

    things he said..baby this was soo long ago please i made a huge mistake i was immature and stupid and i can honestly say im the f-in stupidest guy on earth..i had something so precious and i just threw it away( i said..IT U IT WAS 4 MONTHS AGO ur guna tell ur matured and u became a man during that time????????????????) he says baby please take me back i promise u ive changed and the word please and dont leave me wer said sooo much i lost count...he said i promise i will be ur man the man u deserve i will baby please give this only chance please!! and hes crying..at this point im yelling get me the book and he is trying to get his arms in the wimdow which he cudnt because i kept shutting it..

    than i had had it soo i lowered my window and got close to his face and said GET ME THE BOOOOKKKK!!!! im not listening to ur lies and bull just GOOOOOOOO!!!!

    he said baby i can't do that im sorry..i can't let u goooo please dont leave meeeee and i smacked him while he was saying all this....guys i was soooooo heatted..

    wen i went not to sound conceated lol but i luked hott i had my nice and my glasses on the thing that reallllyyyy got him emotional was wen i said luk at mee..(i pulled up my sunglasses) and said u see......not one tear...luk whose crying now..luk whose begging now and i smiled..he just BROKEEE down.

    than i had also told him this..i took off my sunglasses again and said "listen move on im never guna get back with u... and omg that was the worst thing ever for him...i said i dont feel bad for...and he kept begging baby at least let me sit in ur car and talk please..ive been sooo depressed i can't function i can't breath ur my life and im not letting u go..baby disrespected my family and urs by my dumb action and most of all you...i dont care wat u say to me say what ever u want becuz i deserve it(guys ive never hit him b4..ive never cursed at him never becuz we HAD respect but now that its all gone it kills him for me to talk to him this way)

    OK SO I GOT REALLY MAD RAN OUT OF MY CAR AND RAN INTO HIS HOUSE..HE RAN AFTER ME AND I WENT TO LUK FOR THE BOOK AND MY LUCK HE HID IT..HE KNOWS ME TOO WELL..SO I BEGAN SCREAMING WHERE IS THE BOOK..HE PICKED UP THE CRUMBLED BABY HE WANTED ME TO READ FROM MY CAR AND HE BEGAN READING IT OUT LOUD..IT WAS A PAGE FROM HIS JOURNAL FROM WEN ME AND HIM FIRST HUNG OUT AND HOW MUCH HE LIKED ME..I TOOOK IT OUT OF HAND AND SLAPPED HIM WITH IT..GUYS I CUDN CONTROL MY SELF IM USUALLY THE GIRL THATS ANTI PHYSICAL ABUSE LOL BUT I CUDNT CONTROL MY SELF. HE ONLY BLOCKED ME AND KEPT TALKING AND SAYING FORGIVE ME PLEASEEE AND SH-IT. FINALLY HE GAVE ME THE BOOK CUZ I WAS GOING CRAZYYY CUZ I WNTED TO LEAVE HIS HOUSE WE WERE IN HIS ROOM U KNO..HIS BED WAS RITE THERE AND IT HURT ME TO LUK AT IT CUZ WE SHARED A LOT OF SPECIAL MOMENTS ON IT AND NOT JUST LOVE MAKING. ANYWAY I GOT THE BOOK AND RAN SOOOOO FAST OUT HIS HOUSE AND HE WAS RITE BEHIND ME..HE WANTED TO HOLD AND STUFF BUT HE KNEW THAT WAS THE WORST THING HE CUD DOO..CUZ I WUD FLIPP A SH-IT. SO WEN I GOT IN MY CAR HE RAN IN AND HE SAT IN THE PASSENGER SEAT!!!OMG I WAS SOOO PISSED..ALL I WANTED WAS THE DAM BOOK AND I CUDNT GET IT ANY WAY ELSE CUZ ONLY HE KNEW WHERE IT WAS AND HE WUDNT DROP IT OFF AT MY AUNTS!! HE DID IT CUZ HE WANTED TO C ME AND TALK. AND I WENT THERE KNOWING THIS BUT I ALSO DID IT SO HE CAN C HOW MUCH IM OVER HIM IN JUST 2 DAYS!!

    so he of course continued to say a whole lot of bull...baby listen i can't let u leave me please give a chance and i promise u it will change and i will stay at my aunts house and be home every weekend and but i didnt care and he said he wud come home during the week sometimes because his aunt lives between his schol and my house. he could come home half the time...
    i said listen get this in ur puny brain my heart is sealed and i can NEVER let u back in u understand??u betrayed my trust for u and its all been lies after lies!!!!im screaming these sentences and hes crying like a lil baby. i can never satisfy u after wat u did..u had sex with me and than with her and than WITH MEE!! do u understand..congradulations u got wat u effin wanted and now u can be free and screw as many girls as u want!! because im stronger and numb from the pain that i dont bother to care anymore. after this pain i can handle anything and that means letting u go((((dammm im mad nice hahahah)

    and he began cryingggggggggggggg and cryingggggggggg and cryingggggggggg he cudnt even talk from his tears..i said to him i dont feel bad for u and before u had told me baby dont ever think that u were never good enough because ur the best girlfriend any guy can ask for... i said ITS NOT THAT I WAS NEVER GOOD OF FOR U...ITS THAT I WAS TOOOOOOOO GOOD FOR YOU) another nice one by mee haha and his last thing he said to me was i promise im gona earn u back and i dont care how long it takes because ur my life.. i said wat the hell do u want from me!! its not guna happen and he refused to accept that. i had also told him listen this is just a phase u may feel like now but ur guna eventually forget me and move on i mean i am, im going out this weekend with kayla and he broke down once again...and he said no baby please donttt..i can't have u be wit other guys and i said watch mee and smiled.. ok the end my fingers hurt haha

    ok so thats my 1st love tragic ending story please comment if u have advice for me regarding my future with this cheater, i can only say that i am in love with him and i told him listen i want to be with you soooooooooooooo bad as much as u BUT i can't and he said yes u can baby please but i didnt listen..maybe in like year or sumtin maybe we can start all over? but i dont think i can with the way i feel now u kno but people do deserve another chance and they also deserved to be punished. his punishment is never seeing me...give me some advice ;)

    And that's what I'm going to do with my ex when I get my stuff back...

    I can imagine myself rolling up to her house with a tuned car for drifting or a ferrari.. or any nice ,good looking, fast car...

    Good job on your part~ you kept yourself together!
  • Jul 25, 2008, 12:28 PM
    jenny77
    I know and it was so hard.. I didn't shed one tear :D and this KILLED him.. and when I smiled he was like baby please don't smile I mean everything I'm saying I promise..
  • Jul 25, 2008, 12:30 PM
    pcastro70
    The best advice I can give you is to make up your own mind. If you are asking all of us then it is possible that you don't want to break up but you need to realize your own potential for forgiveness and ask yourself this very impotant question. If I stay are things going to be the same happy I remember or am I always going to question everything he does when he is not with me? If you can get past this and really believe he made a wrong choice and will not do it again then stay, if you are going to drive yourself nuts because you no longer trust him therefore making yourself miserable then maybe you should consider breaking up. Above all else this has to be your choice and not make the decision based on other people's opinion or else you will always wonder if you made the right choice. I give you this advice from experience.
  • Jul 25, 2008, 12:30 PM
    Romefalls19
    If he keeps calling your cell phone. Give him a personalized ring... Taylor Swift "Should've said no":-)
  • Jul 25, 2008, 12:38 PM
    hjpan
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jenny77
    i know and it was soo hard.. i didnt shed one tear :D and this KILLED him..and when i smiled he was like baby please dont smile i mean everything im sayin i promise..

    I can imagine my ex with a new boyfriend or boyfriends who are trash =]
  • Jul 25, 2008, 12:39 PM
    Andrew916
    Like I said before- "friends"...
  • Jul 25, 2008, 12:49 PM
    jenny77
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pcastro70
    The best advice I can give you is to make up your own mind. If you are asking all of us then it is possible that you don't want to break up but you need to realize your own potential for forgiveness and ask yourself this very impotant question. If I stay are things going to be the same happy I remember or am I always going to question everything he does when he is not with me? if you can get past this and really believe he made a wrong choice and will not do it again then stay, if you are going to drive yourself nuts because you no longer trust him therefore making yourself miserable then maybe you should consider breaking up. Above all else this has to be your choice and not make the decision based on other people's opinion or else you will always wonder if you made the right choice. I give you this advice from experience.


    Of course I don't want to break up.. I feel and know that if I say OK I take you back but I can't forgive what you did.. well believe that I will start sooo many fights and because of this I will keep on hurting.. so I must let him go to realize that he isn't the only fish in the sea and I have to open my eyes to new opportunities.. I mean it when I say I trully am the best girlfriend.. I have done him so much and I can also say that I have shaped up his pesonallity and he knows this and I was the only person in his life that actually really showed him love and cared for him. His mother passed when he was in the 7th grade, and his sister got married and moved out and he lives with his dad and he's not the best dad in the world they always fight. His grandma was great to him she died, his aunt died and he has been through a lot and that why his family loves me so much because I was the only thing that made him happy :( but he did it to himself so what position am I in? Exactly I shouldn't be in that position so he tookme for granted... so I must move on and let him live with the problems he caused.. now when he mostly needs someone.. im not there because this time he made a mistake of hurting me...
  • Jul 25, 2008, 12:55 PM
    Andrew916
    I'm somewhat in his situation. My ex was the only one in my life that really showed me any true affection and I loved her but we had to separate because she was going away to college and I'm still in high school. I live in Sac and she's going to UC Santa Cruz. I still miss her and everything but I knew it was inevitable. I know how he feels- I'm just glad Sam didn't do to me what you did to him lol. But then again, why would she? I didn't cheat...
  • Jul 25, 2008, 01:08 PM
    Rockstar714
    I have to give you the rockstar seal of approval for that. I did that with my ex when I found out he cheated. I showed up at HIS GIRLFRIEND'S HOUSE (that he was living with) and all of his friends were standing outside, and I walked up to the door, I said "I know you've been cheting. I am done. I want my stuff back and I want you NEVER to call me again." He said "I'll bring it down to your car" and I stood right there and waited. He called me later beggng and crying and pleading and he did that for months and I stuck to my guns, so good job!

    Now you just got to stick to it.
  • Jul 25, 2008, 01:40 PM
    jenny77
    It's the worst when you return their stuff because its kind of like a metaphor, the stuff symbolizes your love, your relationship, and that you are ready to move on and forget!! :) I recommend this to everyone who has been cheated on...
  • Jul 25, 2008, 01:43 PM
    hjpan
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Andrew916
    i'm somewhat in his situation. my ex was the only one in my life that really showed me any true affection and i loved her but we had to separate because she was going away to college and i'm still in high school. i live in Sac and she's going to UC Santa Cruz. i still miss her and everything but i knew it was inevitable. i know how he feels- i'm just glad Sam didn't do to me what you did to him lol. but then again, why would she? i didn't cheat...

    Yeh.. UC Santa Cruz full of dirty girls like UC Santa Barbara D;

    But you got some time before :D
  • Jul 25, 2008, 02:04 PM
    jenny77
    He just sent me a text saying to listen to its so hard to say goodbye to yesterday and than all my life mykc and jojo and than he wrote I swear in the next message... oh god!! Does he want to not forget! Because I'm really trying and he's running it but ill be stronggg
  • Jul 26, 2008, 03:13 AM
    Kevin_s
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hjpan
    And that's what I'm going to do with my ex when I get my stuff back...

    I can imagine myself rolling up to her house with a tuned car for drifting or a ferrari.. or any nice ,good looking, fast car...

    Good job on your part~ you kept yourself together!

    Want to buy my 400whp Subaru Impress WRX that's had a complete STi engine drivetrain swapped into it? I walk all over porsches and corvettes haha!

    To the original poster, your novel of a post was Epic! Remind me to never make you mad!

    :)
  • Jul 26, 2008, 04:03 AM
    Kevin_s
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jenny77
    he just sent me a text saying to listen to its so hard to say goodbye to yesterday and than all my life mykc and jojo and than he wrote i swear in the next message...oh god!!! does he want to not forget!! because im really trying and hes runing it but ill be stronggg

    The way he is acting is out of desperation, and not necessarily his true feelings. You've stated that he doesn't have the best household to live in, and all of the important people in his life have passed away, leaving him stranded.

    I agree with your position but I think that just for the heck of it, I'll see if I can look at this from his perspective.

    He cheated, he broke your trust, and he feels like a jackass (he IS human). And for some odd reason he did so on a whim, and now realizes that he has MAJORLY messed up with the only person that he can still confide in, be treated decently, and be cared for. It's tough, almost as tough as what you're going through.

    Even though you're staying strong (I commend you), I know that you are having just as much of a hard time as he is.

    People say, do, act in crazy ways when in desperate times. Don't hold what he's saying to you now against him.

    Personally, I think that though you needed to act and talk harshly towards him, that you could have been a little more reserved. He knows he messed up, but throwing in how great you look and other things is a bit over the top. He could have just never told you what he did, give him some credit for that.

    You don't need to say how much better you are than him to show it if that makes sense. I don't cheat on my girlfriends, and I won't lie to them. If I felt I needed to cheat, I would just break up with the girl because it's not fair to them. And if I was drunk (even though I choose not to drink haha) and hooked up with a girl, I would confess what I did, and understand that I messed up, I wouldn't forgive my significant other either and I would bow out gracefully so that they can be happy.

    I think this guy has attachment issues, if he's saying "you are my life" that's a big red flag. No other person should be why you're alive, you are both independent people enjoying the affection and time with one another.

    Who knows what the future holds for you both, though he made a mistake (a VERY big one, especially since he had sex with her, and then you) but other than that if he was a fairly decent boyfriend, I would hope you could show a little more compassion for him and still be stern on your decisions.

    My heart goes out to you for what you have to deal with now, and I wish he could be a bit more mature and stop trying to put so much stress on your life after already giving you a big blow to your gut with his actions.

    Always here to talk,

    Kevin
  • Jul 26, 2008, 08:15 AM
    marriaget
    I love this guy, ^^^^^ he has the answer to everything. (:
  • Jul 26, 2008, 02:16 PM
    Rockstar714
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kevin_s
    I don't cheat on my girlfriends, and I won't lie to them.


    Nope, you're just upfront with all of them. :) Haha

    Well said, as usual!
  • Jul 26, 2008, 05:50 PM
    Kevin_s
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rockstar714
    Nope, you're just upfront with all of them. :) Haha

    Well said, as usual!

    You have to treat people how you expect to be treated right? I grew up with 3 older sisters and my mom and dad so I know the hell that women can bring down upon me lol.
  • Jul 26, 2008, 11:12 PM
    jenny77
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kevin_s
    The way he is acting is out of desperation, and not necessarily his true feelings. You've stated that he doesn't have the best household to live in, and all of the important people in his life have passed away, leaving him stranded.

    I agree with your position but I think that just for the heck of it, I'll see if I can look at this from his perspective.

    He cheated, he broke your trust, and he feels like a jackass (he IS human). And for some odd reason he did so on a whim, and now realizes that he has MAJORLY messed up with the only person that he can still confide in, be treated decently, and be cared for. It's tough, almost as tough as what you're going through.

    Even though you're staying strong (I commend you), I know that you are having just as much of a hard time as he is.

    People say, do, act in crazy ways when in desperate times. Don't hold what he's saying to you now against him.

    Personally, I think that though you needed to act and talk harshly towards him, that you could have been a little more reserved. He knows he messed up, but throwing in how great you look and other things is a bit over the top. He could have just never told you what he did, give him some credit for that.

    You don't need to say how much better you are than him to show it if that makes sense. I don't cheat on my girlfriends, and I won't lie to them. If I felt I needed to cheat, I would just break up with the girl because it's not fair to them. And if I was drunk (even though I choose not to drink haha) and hooked up with a girl, I would confess what I did, and understand that I messed up, I wouldn't forgive my significant other either and I would bow out gracefully so that they can be happy.

    I think this guy has attachment issues, if he's saying "you are my life" that's a big red flag. No other person should be why you're alive, you are both independent people enjoying the affection and time with one another.

    Who knows what the future holds for you both, though he made a mistake (a VERY big one, especially since he had sex with her, and then you) but other than that if he was a fairly decent boyfriend, I would hope you could show a little more compassion for him and still be stern on your decisions.

    My heart goes out to you for what you have to deal with now, and I wish he could be a bit more mature and stop trying to put so much stress on your life after already giving you a big blow to your gut with his actions.

    Always here to talk,

    Kevin


    OK cool so are you saying give him another chance? U know what else he said to me that meant a lot trully did.. he said he has never felt greater emotional loss or physical and mental pain then at losing me and that I'm the most beautiful girl and every song reminds me of him... wat do you say to that? :/

    Remember when I told you guys that me and him are spiritually connected? Yesterday he told me to listen to the song please don't go by tank and I wrote him back saying rhianna says take a effin bow( u know the song)>>>>well tonight I was in my car and rhiannas song came up so I blasted it and it gets me pumped and stronger you know lol anyway.. u guys DO KNOW that tank's song please don't go is really old rite? Yea well tell me why RITE AFTER RHIANNAS SONG FREAKING TANK PLEASE Don't GO STARTED PLAYING ON 107.5! I WAS FLIPPIN A SH-IT! LOL IT SOOOOO WEIRD ITS LIKE A SIGN FROM GD OR SUMTIN LMAO! AND WATCH There's GUNA BE PLENTY MORE!


    I DO LOVE HIM I Want to BE WITH HIM SOOOOO BADLY.. WEN U HAVE APROBLEM U ALWAYS HAV THAT ONE PERSON TO GO TO BUT WEN THE PROBLEM IS WIT THEM U HAVE NO ONE U KNO>>? BUT I CANT.. :( I can't GET BACK WITH HIM A LEAST FOR NOW.. he rites me textes like baby I'm dying and I can't let you go, please come back , and stuff like that
  • Jul 27, 2008, 04:06 AM
    Kevin_s
    I'm not saying that you should get back to him, because what he did was completely wrong. He could have given you an STD for crying out loud, I would suggest that you have yourself tested just to be safe.

    I think that you're simply noticing things that are more of a coincidence and thinking that it's "fate". I would say that he really needs to understand that you would like some time to yourself so that you can think things through without having this constant presence of him hunching over your back, know what I mean?

    It's like when your parents keep telling you to do something, even when you know what to do. It's annoying to be told so many times when you already have the thought in your head.

    What I am saying though in my previous post to you was that I think you acted very harshly and somewhat immature in the situation (and no, I'm really not trying to bash on you at all, I just want to give you some constructive criticism to take on the road for the next time this happens.)

    Maybe you could send him a text back saying something along the lines of "Hey (name), I do apologize for acting so harshly the other day, but I do not appreciate the games you tried to play because I was asked repeatedly to get that book back and the least you could have done is given it to me. What you did was wrong, and is not so easily forgiven, and is definitely not one to be forgotten. I am very confused right now in regards to you and what I want in my life, and I would genuinely appreciate it if you could stop trying to contact me for a while so that I can think clearly and see things from every side. If you care about me as much as you say you do then you can do this for and when I feel the time is right to talk to you about what I've decided. When I have cleared my head and come to a decision I will contact you. This does not mean that I am calling you telling you that I want to get back together necessarily. So please don't expect that outcome. I really need some time alone from you because you're constantly trying to talk to me and it is making it harder for me to clear my head. I really appreciate you doing this for me."

    That kind of message will be read and understood that you are upset, you are trying to be positive about this situation and give it some consideration. It also shows that you want to be free from the monkey on your back constantly keeping you from making a rational decision.

    Now, can you be in a relationship that has broken your trust? Will you be able to forgive him (and I mean ACTUALLY forgive him for what he has done and not constantly hold that over his head and throw it in his face whenever you get into an argument.) When an issue is resolved, it should never be spoken of again because then you are simply throwing it back in their face when you both have come to a decision.

    Will you be able to deal with the stress of a relationship that has been broken? Are you going to constantly wonder what he really is doing, whether he's lying to you, whether he's sleeping around again?

    Have you ever thought that maybe he's saying all these nice things to you simply to keep you around since he isn't getting any from someone else right now (maybe)? Maybe he likes having girls in different area codes?

    You've already seen that he is not faithful, but I give him credit for coming clean, that takes a lot of guts to do so. It's not easy telling the girl that loves you with all her heart that you've slept with another person (especially after you had sex with the girlfriend after the other girl.)

    I would really contemplate whether it is in your best interest to pursue a relationship with this fellow again. You will probably fight more often, resentment will play a large role in this, as well as the fact that you will feel far more insecure in the relationship since he has betrayed you once already.

    I do not always check the Relationship forums so the most quick way to reach me is through private messages. Just let me know that you've responded and I will try to get back on here as soon as possible.

    P.S. When you have the problem with that one person you can talk to about anything, you have us! Many people from around the world, all with their own opinions and advice, I have found no other place that is filled with the most open, sometimes harsh but realistic views for us all to consider when we come in with our problems. You have received some great advice from the people in this forum, I hope I could have been as influential in your decisions and actions as the rest of these fine people.

    I feel like even though I'm only 20 that I have the mind of an elder or something haha.

    I am the next Talaniman! (Apprentice maybe? Lol)
  • Jul 27, 2008, 11:49 AM
    marriaget
    ^^ well, I don't know I love your answers (:
  • Jul 27, 2008, 03:06 PM
    jenny77
    Thanks kevin your awesome you made a lot of sense. OK I have another question for u.. and everyonelse..

    1) do you think its OK for me to contact the girl he slept with? I badly want to ask her some questions , I want to make her feel completely conftorable on the phone and just get some answers because I'm really desperate.. I wanaask her if he was the one that wanted to have sex, if he tried getting with her even after they had sex and stuff like that or if they talked on the phone? It will help mee soooo much. I know she's a complete stranger but I'm really sweet I'm sure I can get her to tell me. And I want to tell her to not stress giving me answers because its only for me and no one else. I've been with him for two years and I want to see if he lied EVEN AFTER REVEALING THAT HE HAD SEX WITH THIS GIRL WHILE WE WERE BROKEN UP... im desperate.. I think I'm guna do it..

    Outcomes of that situation.. WORST CASE... well if he turns out to be lying completely and they had sex more than once and so on I want to meet up wit him and tell him that I need him out of my life forever because I don't deserve to have my heart drop every time he textes me or when after he textes I go crazy and think and think if I should take him bac you knoo..


    Good case: lets say he was telling the truth, guys sorry but I'm just guna say he said that when he did it, it was terrible, he didn't "go" yea OK! Is what I said.. and that they were drunk, he found out that she had liked him since the beginning of the year and she coudnt get with him because he was wit me.. if he is telling the truth I think that this is prooving that MAYBE JUST MAYBE he trully deep inside wants to stop living a lie and that he couldn't take it anymore because he began to realize more and more how much he loves and me and MAYBE now he's more than ready to be and a committed relationship with me.. I will c him more often he promised no more parties only if I'm there and no more hanging with his friends at bars and he said if I take him back he will live at his aunts house which means he will c me a lot during the week..

    WAT DO GUYS THINK GOOD IDEA TO CONTACT THE GIRL OR BAD?
  • Jul 27, 2008, 03:14 PM
    Kevin_s
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jenny77
    thanks kevin ur awesome u made a lot of sense. ok i have another question for u..and everyonelse..

    1) do u think its ok for me to contact the girl he slept with? i badly want to ask her some questions , i wana make her feel completely conftorable on the phone and just get some answers becuz im really desperate..i wanaask her if he was the one that wanted to have sex, if he tried getting with her even after they had sex and stuff like that or if they talked on the phone?? it will help mee soooo much. i kno shes a complete stranger but im really sweet im sure i can get her to tell me. and i wanna tell her to not stress giving me answers because its only for me and no one else. ive been with him for two years and i wana see if he lied EVEN AFTER REVEALING THAT HE HAD SEX WITH THIS GIRL WHILE WE WERE BROKEN UP...im desperate..i think im guna do it..

    outcomes of that situation..WORST CASE...well if he turns out to be lying completely and they had sex more than once and soo on i wana meet up wit him and tell him that i need him out of my life forever becuz i dont deserve to have my heart drop everytime he textes me or wen after he textes i go crazy and think and think if i should take him bac u knoo..


    gud case: lets say he was tellin the truth, guys sry but im just guna say he said that wen he did it, it was terrible, he didnt "go" yea ok!! is wat i said..and that they were drunk, he found out that she had liked him since the beggining of the year and she coudnt get with him because he was wit me..if he is telling the truth i think that this is prooving that MAYBE JUST MAYBE he trully deep inside wants to stop living a lie and that he cudnt take it anymore becuz he began to realize more and more how much he loves and me and MAYBE noe hes more than ready to be n a committed relationship with me..i will c him more often he promised no more parties only if im there and no more hanging with his friends at bars and he said if i take him back he will live at his aunts house which means he will c me a lot during the week..

    WAT DO GUYS THINK GOOD IDEA TO CONTACT THE GIRL OR BAD?

    *thunder sounds*

    I am here again! (Hooray)

    Okay, let's get down to bidnesss.

    Question 1: Do you think I should contact the girl that he slept with?

    Answer 1: (A question for this answer is involved) Though you may expect that she will give you the absolute 100% truth, what makes you think you can trust her? She knew you were with him, she obviously knows who you are, and who's to say she won't outright lie about what has happened? She could be saying that he is still hittin' it and it could be a complete lie because she wants you out of the picture. Just because you're a sweetheart, doesn't mean she won't have tricks up her sleeves ;)

    My personal advice... leave the girl out of it. He admitted to having sex with her, it doesn't matter how many times, ways, places, whatever. He cheated, and then he had sex with you again. (Once again, I suggest getting tested to be safe) You need to stop talking to them, or about the situation to anyone of the people you know (aside from us) and find out what YOU ultimately deserve (NOT WANT, DESERVE!)

    You take this guy back, he wins. You don't take this guy back, he'll probably just go get with that chick again. Either way it feels like he's going to win. The least you can do is take your dignity back and go out like a champ!
  • Jul 27, 2008, 03:33 PM
    Ash123
    You guys sound young.

    I'd take my time if I was you. Take 6 months off from this and get some perspective. If he is the one, it'll all turn out. If not, you can breathe again.

    You are doing all the work here... he should be doing all the work.
    You should be like: he messed up, I am taking time off to see what it's like without him.

    IFFFF you all are going to get serious he is going to need to realize what life is like without you - not just what life could be without you.

    I don't think he is the devil, just too young to make a sound decision right now. So, make it for him. Tell him you'll contact him on 09 after you've had time to think...

    Remember you can't date someone you can't forgive - so decide if that is worth ever happening. And focus on your life path / career / education etc. that solves A LOT of problems at your age!
  • Aug 5, 2008, 10:11 AM
    sun_shine_xOx
    i feel like for every girl he told you about, how do you know there arent more? you know the saying for every rat you see theres 1000 more or something haha but believe me i know what ur going through, my boyfriends leaving for college in the fall and im staying at a local college for a year. his school is only 2 hours away so our "plan" is to visit eachother every other weekend, but him cheating on me is my biggest fear. he says that if its meant to be itll be and always tells me he loves me. idk if this is "excusable" but he says that if he was ever going to hookup with a girl he would breakup with me first because he never wants to cheat on me. people have tempations, things happen,but the fact that this has happened multiple times it seems like a pattern, idk its going to be really hard to get over it and honestly even tho he is in the wrong, he is going to get sick of it after a while because everytime u have an argument u know your going to use that against him, its hard not to. its a sucky situation :confused: and you can't really go simply off others advice. when you know you know. hope this helped ( sorry its so long haha )
  • Aug 5, 2008, 10:18 AM
    Romefalls19
    Sunshine... I'm not quite sure if you are proposing a question or saying your boyfriend has already cheated on you but please post a question and we can help you out.

    The OP has already dropped this loser and realized she deserves better
  • Aug 5, 2008, 12:13 PM
    sun_shine_xOx
    Nahh I'm just letting her know that I'm scared that's going to happen to me, so I understand how hard it is. Letting her know she's not alone :)
  • Oct 5, 2008, 02:00 PM
    jenny77
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  • Oct 5, 2008, 02:40 PM
    redwee74

    Good Job Jenny, you may have acted a little harsh but keep your head up and moving forward. I never could get over a breach of trust like that. It always came up. Just remember you can do this and give it time. 6months plus. That will let you get your head straight. Just hang in there most all of us have been there and guess what we lived through it. Good Luck and God Bless
  • Jan 5, 2009, 04:01 PM
    teetsi

    Hey what ever happened with this situation? Did you move on? I'm going through this right now and it's so similar to your story, I would really love the advice :)
  • Jan 23, 2009, 03:52 AM
    cherilyndria
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Andrew916 View Post
    i suppose it's just how you word it. i feel like 'friends' is far too weak a word to describe two people who truly love each other. that's all i'm really saying. for instance- when i think friends, i think of people who look out for each other and like to hang out. but when i think of lovers, i think of two people who can't imagine life without each other. they some will do anything and everything for each other. they draw strength from each other and can't stand the thought of being separated. they love each others' flaws and can't imagine them changing. it's that higher level of connection and compatibility that i don't feel 'friend' or even 'best friend' can come close to describing. so in the end it comes down to what your definition of friend or best friend is. to you, friendship is something that can describe a relationship where two people are in love. i just feel that 'friend' can't even scratch the surface of what true love is... in the end- perception is reality...


    But shouldn't a lover do these things too? Its like saying all Chevys are vehicles but not all vehicles are Chevys, lol. A lover should be a friend, but not all friends are lovers, see what I'm saying. Just because they are a lover, that shouldn't be the only thing they are.

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