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Originally Posted by Foxy459459

Then dont ask about her man. Just ask how she is doing in general. And who is "Them"? You just have to give it time. And like i said if it is ment to be then it will happen. If its not ment to be then you will know when the right time to move on is. Just because all of this is going on does not mean that you can not go out and have a good time for yourself still. I know you prob do not want to but you should get some of your buddies together and go out and have a night for yourself...

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Them is my parents, in few days I will be going away for 2 weeks so that will do me good, You are right I have to give this time, It will take a long time to play out I think, I know she would have to break up with him and then hopfully if that happens I will be there for her and maybe she will look at me in a different light if I can be just a friend and leave my feelings out of it, I know the chances of all this taking place may be slim, but I have to have faith

Now your talking right. And I think your 2 week trip will do you good. You need time to clear your head with everything. Keep your faith and never give up on what you want out of life, and always follow your heart. Just in a smart way which I think you already know.

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Originally Posted by Foxy459459

Now your talking right. And i think your 2 week trip will do you good. You need time to clear your head with everything. Keep your faith and never give up on what you want out of life, and always follow your heart. Just in a smart way which i think you already know.

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Thanks Foxy, I am working on my faith and I am not giving up on her. I am in no big hurry and they say the best things in life are worth waiting for, but there is nothing I can do about them, if they break up it will happen on its own, I cannot interfere, that would really push her away

You are so right about that one, I mean about not interfering with breaking them up, because if she found out then I don't think she would talk to you again, you have to let time take its course, and you know I was telling myself the same thing just last night (The best things in life are worth waiting for.) Me and my BF have been together for 14 months almost it was real rocky at times but he is the best man I have ever met. And I love him with all my heart and then some. Yet he has not told me that he loves me yet, because I think he is so scard of his feelings twards me because he was in a really bad relationship for a really long time. So I think he is scard to actually admit it. I know he does love him, I just want to hear him say it and do not want to pressure him in to it. You know what I mean? I have a good feeling that things are going to work out for you, you just have to give it time...

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You are so right about that one, i mean about not interfering with breaking them up, because if she found out then i dont think she would talk to you again, you have to let time take its course, and you know i was telling myself the same thing just last night (The best things in life are worth waiting for.) Me and my BF have been together for 14 months almost it was real rocky at times but he is the best man i have ever met. And i love him with all my heart and then some. Yet he has not told me that he loves me yet, due to the fact that i think he is so scard of his feelings twards me because he was in a really bad relationship for a really long time. So i think he is scard to actually admit it. I know he does love him, i just want to hear him say it and do not want to pressure him in to it. You know what i mean? I have a good feeling that things are going to work out for you, you just have to give it time...

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Thanks Foxy, I hope things work out for you. Just before she left work yesterday she sent me a Email asking me to send my dad her best regards, I told her he was having cataract surgery today, and she said she hoped I have a good night, so I guess that was nice, Foxy would you please answer these questions as to what you think ? I wonder why she has not told me she is engaged, my friend who she told a few weeks ago emailed her 2 weeks ago saying she should be the one to tell me (he did not tell her he told me) but she never answered that question, just talked about other stuff, is it because she does not want to hurt me ? Or maybe she is not 100% sure about it ? When I ran into her I did see she is not wearing a ring, but maybe that is because her Catholic faith does not allow a engagement until you have a anulment which takes about a year or more to get ( so I guess that is good) and also I have not let on that I know she is living with him, should I be quite that I know that ? And Foxy what do you think about this guy she is with ? My friend who is the coupels consoler says to me, just let it go and have a stronger faith that God will bring us together, and he really believes things between them will fall apart, he just says watch and see, they may even make it to marriage but it will not last, him and a few others have told me that he is not the guy for her and in the end that will come out, they keep telling me to let go and let God work and to have the faith.

Listen to your friends they have a good point. I don't think she told you that she was engaged because she is afraid to tell you because she still has feelings for you, and I think if she knows that you know that she is enganged then I thinks he will be afraid that you will give up, and not talk to her. Don't let on that you know, let her be the one to tell you about everything. I don't know much abuot this guy, just that she needs to make the decision about him. No one can make up her mind for her, just believe what your friend tells you to have faith in what you believe in, if its meant to be then god will make it happen.

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Originally Posted by Foxy459459

Listen to your friends they have a good point. I dont think she told you that she was engaged because she is afraid to tell you because she still has feelings for you, and i think if she knows that you know that she is enganged then i thinks he will be afraid that you will give up, and not talk to her. Dont let on that you know, let her be the one to tell you about everything. I dont know much abuot this guy, just that she needs to make the decision about him. No one can make up her mind for her, just believe what your friend tells you to have faith in what you believe in, if its ment to be then god will make it happen.

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Wow, so you think she really has feelings for me Foxy even though she's with another ? Is that what you mean Foxy ? When we were together it was like a yo yo, sometimes she would tell me she missed me, other times she was distant, one time she sent me a letter when I was out of town, she woke up at 2 am and wrote she was thinking about me and hoped I was safe and said she missed me, and signed it Love, that was 10 months ago, my best friend who she has talked to and emailed said he knows she cares about me very much. One thing I am not sure about, I have a few options. Option 1 my consoler would not approve of me sending her the prayer book, he would say I am interfering with Gods plan, so I have not told him I am thinking about doing that, Option 2, and my friend who is in touch with her says its OK if I send it anonymons. Option 3, I was going to send it with a little card just saying I just want what's best for her and I will always be her friend, but I have told her this in the past, for some reason I feel I need to again, but I am thinking she already knows, what should I do Foxy ?

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Listen to your friends they have a good point. I dont think she told you that she was engaged because she is afraid to tell you because she still has feelings for you, and i think if she knows that you know that she is enganged then i thinks he will be afraid that you will give up, and not talk to her. Dont let on that you know, let her be the one to tell you about everything. I dont know much abuot this guy, just that she needs to make the decision about him. No one can make up her mind for her, just believe what your friend tells you to have faith in what you believe in, if its ment to be then god will make it happen.

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P.S are you saying she may still be thinking about me for a future ?

I think you should send her the book, with the card saying "Seen this thought of you, just wanted you to know I was thinking about you, and if you ever need anything let me know? I will always be here if you need anything. That's what you should say to her...

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I think you should send her the book, with the card saying "Seen this thought of you, just wanted you to know i was thinking about you, and if you ever need anything let me know? I will always be here if you need anything. Thats what you should say to her.....

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Thanks Foxy, I think I will send it and not tell anyone, I don't think it would be interfering with Gods plan, I will say what you said in a card, I will send with the book, will keep you posted, maybe she will email me today, but I will be silent unlesss she does

Kepp me posted and let me know how it goes with the book, I think it's a good idea. Good luck to you...

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kepp me posted and let me know how it goes with the book, i think its a good idea. Good luck to you...

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I will let you know, I am going to bring it to work tomorrow and send It interoffice mail, she will get it Monday, I will be out of town till Wednesday, so We shall see if I get a response, I guess If I don't it may not be bad don't you think ? It will make me feel better by doing it, and I cannot see how it can hurt anything, I hope not.

I don't think it will hurt, I think she will love it. Keep me posted. Good luck~

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I dont think it will hurt, i think she will love it. Keep me posted. Good luck~

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No emails from her today so far, now that I was emailing her yesterday I want more, I was hopeing she would ask how my dads surgery went, but I won't email her today, don't want to be to pushy, Not even sure she is at work today, I could look out the window and see if her truck is here, but I guess that should not matter where she is, so I won't look, I have to tell myself I am in this for the long haul and this may take some time.

Its going to take sometime. You can not be pushy, and if things do not work out the way you want them to, you can not get angery or anything like that. Don't freak out because she hasn't e-mailed you today, she might just be real busy, or she might not be at work today. Just relax, things will be fine

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Its going to take sometime. You can not be pushy, and if things do not work out the way you want them to, you can not get angery or anything like that. Dont freak out because she hasnt e-mailed you today, she might just be real busy, or she might not be at work today. Just relax, things will be fine

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I won't get angery, There is a feeling that I have that something down the road will result in me being with her again, IF my faith gets stronger, I believe this, thanks for all your input Foxy

I have mixed feelings on this whole thing. She is either one of those people who can't quite seem to find exactly what she is looking for and feels she is running out time or she truly is confused and not sure what to do about it.

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Well she sent me a good morning email the other day, Good Morning was in the subjcet line and the email was a nice prayer, she also sent it to a few other people. so I responed today and kept it kind of short and said it was nice visiting with her the other day and I am praying for her, I signed it "Your Friend", can anyone else comment on my ordel ?

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That is a good point

It almost seems like she wants to keep a couple men on the back burner "just in case" the one she is trying to make something with doesn't work out. I do find it very hard to believe though that this girl is as into her faith as you claim. I know quite a few men and women that are deeply spiritual and devoted catholics and would never even think about putting themselves into a situation where they would be tempted into pre marital sex. It almost sounds to me that yes she is catholic and believes what she believes and may even go to church every Sunday but the whole sex before marriage thing is not that important to her and so for fear of sounding like a slut, she makes sure you know how awful she feels about it. And she tries to make you think you the "only one" she did that with. If she gets a little loose and easy when drinking, I can assure you your not the only guy its happened with. If I am out of line please say so, but this is what my gut it telling me the minute I read your post.