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  • Oct 8, 2007, 10:10 AM
    bummedout4
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy
    I agree, he needs to get his head clear and thats what its going to take, NO CONTACT WITH HER. I suspect its this obsessive behavior that lead her to ask for a break in the first place.


    I may be obsessed with her now, especially not having her but it is not that I have an obsession, it is love that I just feel I can't express to her anymore. It was not like this and this before and this is not the reason she wanted a break. I have read everyone's posts and I agree and disagree with some points that everyone is making. And for the record, she has called me , not just me calling her all the time. So she got the flowers, texted me thank you and that she liked them and appreciated it and it was thoughtful. That is all I was hoping for, not that she would say ohh I want you back now. It was just something that was nice and thoughtful. So that's done with, we are still in communication , I said I would talk to her later and she said to text her later because she can't talk (strep throat). So that's where we stand now, I do not call her all the time nor bother her. So I take all of your advice to heart, it has truly helped me to cope with this situation, and hopefully to overcome it for the better. Hopefully with her, yes that's what I want, but if not I will move on. It is still too soon to tell though.
  • Oct 8, 2007, 10:42 AM
    smoothy
    Obsession and love feel the same to the person who is afflicted with it. Its like judging the size and ferocity of a mob fight when you are in the middle of it. You really have to be outside the situation to be able to see what's really happening.

    For the record how many times has she called you since she asked for space? And not her returning your call or voice mail.

    OK, now how many times have you called her?

    See my point. You are still forcing yourself on her.
  • Oct 8, 2007, 11:12 AM
    bummedout4
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy
    Obsession and love feel the same to the person who is afflicted with it. Its like judging the size and ferocity of a mob fight when you are in the middle of it. You really have to be outside the situation to be able to see whats really happening.

    For the record how many times has she called you since she asked for space? And not her returning your call or voice mail.

    OK, now how many times have you called her?

    See my point. You are still forcing yourself on her.

    Yeah, I have probably called her more since the beginning, but that first week or so I was a mess and didn't know what was really going on. Since we talked a few times in person, I have not called her a lot, for a whole week I didn't contact her and she called me a few days in a row. So I am not keeping track, this isn't a game, if I want to talk to her, I am going to, if she wants to talk to me , she will call, and she has. So all this back and forth should I or shouldn't I call her isn't working. We may not be together but we still care about one another enough to keep communication open. I tried the NC for a week and it didn't work, she thought I was upset and moving on and she didn't call me because of that, she thought I didn't care anymore which is not true. This is a time to reflect for both of us, she may not know what she wants but I feel if I disappear totally it will be doing more harm than good , at least in this situation. I may be wrong, only time will tell. So I am giving her space, not smothering her , and I feel I have been doing the right thing for now. As time passes, the situation may change and at that point we'lll see where we go from there. I am in the middle of all of this so I prob don't see it as clearly as I should or would if I stepped back, but for now that's all I can do.
  • Oct 8, 2007, 11:23 AM
    Sad Soul
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bummedout4
    So she got the flowers, texted me thank you and that she liked them and appreciated it and it was thoughtful.

    Did she call you and thank you for you having flowers delivered?

    Because if she didn't, it's a sign she really needs space.

    This doesn't mean she doesn't think the flowers were great. But it does tell you something.

    If she didn't call to say thank you... think about this... she's telling you something. I mean, she might not even be thinking "god I need some space" but it's likely that she unconsciously texts you due to not wanting to be close. She wants out.

    See, I'm telling you that she is not "planning" her actions, because she is not a bad guy here. She is just a girl who wants some space, and she cannot control how she is feeling. You can't control this either.
  • Oct 8, 2007, 11:33 AM
    smoothy
    Now if its an even balance or close to it.. then maybe its not so much you forcing yourself on her, but if she has only called a couple times and not in response to a voice mail or anything you left then I think I'm right.

    But in my mind you should still cut her loose, because by wanting space but talking to you she is trying to have her cake and eat it too if you are right, and that's still wrong. And If I'm right should let her go because that's what she asked for.

    In any case what's been going on is doing nobody any good. She either needs all the time and distance in the world to decide if that's what she wants or not. And she did ask for that.

    Or she's got to decide she doesn't want her space.

    In any case your judgment on the matter is clearly clouded and because of that suspect.

    You can't be obsessive about someone like you are and be objective at the same time... can't happen, won't happen, and isn't happening.
  • Oct 8, 2007, 11:36 AM
    bummedout4
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sad Soul
    Did she call you and thank you for you having flowers delivered?

    Because if she didn't, it's a sign she really needs space.

    This doesn't mean she doesn't think the flowers were great. But it does tell you something.

    If she didn't call to say thank you... think about this... she's telling you something. I mean, she might not even be thinking "god I need some space" but it's likely that she unconsciously texts you due to not wanting to be close. She wants out.

    See, I'm telling you that she is not "planning" her actions, because she is not a bad guy here. She is just a girl who wants some space, and she cannot control how she is feeling. You can't control this either.


    Well as I said, she texted me thank you and that she liked them and they were nice and it was thoughtful. She can't talk because she has strep throat and it hurts. So I understand, she said to text her later because her throat hurts. So I think she liked them, in what context I don't know but she appreciated it, which is all I was really going for.
  • Oct 8, 2007, 03:03 PM
    talaniman
    I think most here have given you advice to help you, since we know nothing of her, or her motivations. The point being that you need to be healthy, and live your life, and not have expectatations of something more with this female. Make awfully sure that you keep your own life on the right path, and not let her being nice and friendly, hold you back on your own happiness. No one can say where this will end up. We are not psychics, but from experience, make your decisions based on fact not your aching, hoping heart.
  • Oct 8, 2007, 03:06 PM
    star3114
    Well flowers were thoughtful, but keep in mind you are both very young. She started to realize this... that is why she left. She wanted to be absolutely sure you were the best thing for her. You are still acting as if you are in a serious relationship... even though you say you are both friends. You are not acting like a friend. If a friend acted that clingy, I would probably ditch them (I actually ditched one of my guy friends... because he was really starting to creep me out with his hovering) . Be very wary of what you do, or you may get the final boot. It is one thing to be caring and another to be obsessive... a very fine line. Take care!
  • Oct 8, 2007, 03:23 PM
    bummedout4
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by star3114
    Well flowers were thoughtful, but keep in mind you are both very young. She started to realize this....that is why she left. She wanted to be absolutely sure you were the best thing for her. You are still acting as if you are in a serious relationship....even though you say you are both friends. You are not acting like a friend. If a friend acted that clingy, I would probably ditch them (I actually ditched one of my guy friends...because he was really starting to creep me out with his hovering) . Be very wary of what you do, or you may get the final boot. It is one thing to be caring and another to be obsessive.....a very fine line. Take care!


    Thanks, well said, I know the line is thin , I am trying not to overstep my boundaries with her and I don't think I am. I will try my best to move on my own path, but still want her in my life. WE will see what happens I guess, time will tell what reallyhappens.
  • Oct 8, 2007, 03:27 PM
    Sad Soul
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bummedout4
    WE will see what happens i guess, time will tell what reallyhappens.

    You keep saying "we will see what happens" or "only time will tell" when you never seem to wait for time to tell you...

    Please go about doing all the great things everyone helped list out for you to do (everything that could make you a stronger, healthier and more attractive man), instead of getting impatient and trying to control the situation with your ex.

    Be true to what you say in regards to, "only time will tell" and give time a chance. You'll be giving your ex a fair chance this way too.

    Trust all the people who have posted this for you!
  • Oct 8, 2007, 03:38 PM
    bummedout4
    Yeah I know I keep saying it, it sounds so good,but time is just going so slow!
  • Oct 8, 2007, 03:46 PM
    talaniman
    WARNING!!!DO NOT READ IF YOUR SENSITIVE!!!!

    There will never be any good from sticking your head up a females butt. MANHOOD is all about dealing with the facts as they are, and doing what you must, for your own good to build a happy secure life. That means making the hard decisions, for the long term good. Yes, letting go, and starting over is a life changing event, but not the hardest one you will face, and definitely not the only one.
  • Oct 8, 2007, 05:43 PM
    madaman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bummedout4
    yeah i know i keep saying it, it sounds so good,but time is just going so slow!

    Time will 'speed up' once you stop thinking about her and how you can talk to her next or impress her. It will speed up once you start working on yourself. Start playing a new sport or learn an instrument. It will be really hard to focus at first but just stick with it.
  • Oct 8, 2007, 05:56 PM
    bummedout4
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by madaman
    Time will 'speed up' once you stop thinking about her and how you can talk to her next or impress her. It will speed up once you start working on yourself. Start playing a new sport or learn an instrument. It will be really hard to focus at first but just stick with it.


    Yeah that's something I have been trying to do, getting back to the driving range and hopefully if weather holds up start getting to the golf course more often. Golf should take my mind off things for a while at least.
  • Oct 8, 2007, 07:17 PM
    ilovcali
    So I haven't posted on this thread for sometime. Basically, you've been going around in circles since the very beginning and haven't moved forward even one step. If anything, after three weeks, you're at or worse than square one.

    Since you claim to LOVE her, don't you think you should do the ONE THING she asked. LEAVE HER ALONE! At this point, do it for her sake, because you're clearly not trying to help yourself by repeatedly pushing a square peg into a round hole.

    You made this girl your entire life and now she's gone. And now YOU ARE BEING SELFISH by trying to FORCE THE ISSUE. I mean seriously dude, she's trying to move on and live her life. Have some spine. DO THE SAME.

    Most GIRLS LIKE FLOWERS. What was she going to say to you? She's a nice person. She said thanks. What was she going to say?

    Anyway, I'm sorry for being harsh. But through this entire thread, the only thing you've focused on is how to win her back not how do I MOVE ON WITH MY LIFE. People have given you spot on advice for the latter, but you choose to ignore it and focus on anything or any ploy to win this girl back.

    SHE'S NOT STUPID. She knows what you're trying to do by sending flowers, texting, calling. You can't TRICK HER into liking you again. LEAVE HER ALONE. You're literally going insane trying to figure out what to do to get her back.

    And we've all been in your shoes. These situations are all fairly similar. Don't have the ILLUSION that yours is somehow different. It's not. And from our collective experience, we've all told that the point is TO GET BETTER, NOT get her back.

    With all that said, I am still hoping you finally start helping yourself. Only you can do that. SHE CAN'T and she shouldn't have to. And we are doing everything we can. So that leaves you to do your part.

    Good luck.

    --Cali
  • Oct 9, 2007, 05:09 AM
    smoothy
    Look at it this way... since you can't seem to accept the advice we have been giving you to back off.

    I for one don't even know you and can see your obsession. Can you imagine how bad that makes you look in her eyes. No woman wants a man that is that out of control. It's a huge turn-off to women. They hate immature men and crybaby types... as well as mommas boys. And all this incessant insistence you are the only one that knows what's right and good only shows we are right about this.

    The most certain way to drive her off for good is keep doing what you are doing and keep in her face. If she didn't want space she would not have asked for it.

    Its time to show some maturity, be a man and as suck it up and do what's right. Give her the space she asked for... women don't ask for space then ask for you to keep calling etc... those two things are mutually exclusive. You can do one or the other but not both. I can believe she asked for space... I think the part of keeping in touch was something you dreamed up or misunderstood however based on everything that has been said. Yeah its going to hurt, boo hoo, that's life, everyone deals with it many times in their life, dealing with it is part of being an adult, not running away from it.

    Keep it up what you are doing and you will convince her you are not mentally stable. And I know that's exactly what you don't want to do.


    Hate to be so brash, direct and harsh, but nothing else seems to be working being that we are on page 46 and you still don't see what you are doing wrong.
  • Oct 9, 2007, 08:02 AM
    bummedout4
    OK, I get everyone's point that I have to start moving on. Let me ask you all something, did you do the right thing when you were faced with this situation for the first time? Did you ever have that hope that I am feeling and the sense that its not over , just a rough patch in the road? You are all right, I can't let her dictate what I do with my life and I need to control myself. Well with all that being said, what do you do if you KNOW that person is the one you want to be with forever. Do you let it go and push it away further or keep them close? I think I may be coming across as an obsessive guy that is all up in her business and smothering her when I post on here. This is not true, I am giving her space, and we have talked and decided that she just needs time to think things through and figure things out and that we can still stay in contact. I am not trying to force anything with her and I don't want to force her now to make a decision about her future. So with this being said, I should just tell her I don't want to talk to her anymore until she decides what she wants? Wouldn't this push her away further, at least now we are talking and still close. Or is this the problem, with me around she will never really realize what she wants? I admit I am confused and in love and it may be blinding the reality of the situation. All I know is that I want to be with her, and she may also, but is just confused and overwhelmed right now. If I am not there for her when she needs me, wouldn't that show that I really don't love and care as much as I say I do? I know this post has gotten huge, and I really appreciate everyone taking time to read it and offer their opinons and advice. Without it , I would be even more lost than I am now. I just want to do the right thing and give myself a chance again, not ruin it or make things worse. In respect to becoming a better person, I have really been able to reflect on our relationship and see what needs to be improved in the future. All I want is to show her that if we work on it, things can be like they use to be, and we can both be happy, because the foundation is there. We know each other better than anyone, care about one another, and can be ourselves and act normal around each other. Am I wrong for wanting this? I feel like everyone is saying I should just suck it up and move on withuot her, leaving all we shared and still share in the dust. I just don't think I am ready to do that now, and I am not sure when I will be. Does this make me less of a man? I never was emotional and never cried, but this has changed me, I now know its OK to express those emotions because if not, they will stay inside and one day explode in a way that may not be good. So really all I am asking is Why does it seem like everything I feel is right, actually so wrong?
  • Oct 9, 2007, 08:20 AM
    madaman
    I find it funny that the title of this whole question was 'girlfriend wants a break. How to accept it?'. 46 pages later you still refuse to 'accept' it.

    We say you need to focus on yourself, and you spin it to be you focusing on yourself to improve your relationship with her. That's not what we are saying.

    We say leave her alone, and you ask us how to tell her that you are going to leave her alone.

    We say by being independent and doing things only for yourself, you will be happier. You ask us 'well won't she think I don't care anymore if I stop calling?'.

    When this is over, you are going to look back and kick yourself for not listening to EVERYONE here sooner. You ask us if we made the mistakes you are making the first time around, and yes I know I did, but I didn't ask for help on a great site like this. If I had had this during my first breakup I wouldn't have been so messed up for a YEAR after (and during that year I met at least 4 great girls who I scared away because I wasn't over my ex).
  • Oct 9, 2007, 08:27 AM
    bummedout4
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by madaman
    When this is over, you are going to look back and kick yourself for not listening to EVERYONE here sooner. You ask us if we made the mistakes you are making the first time around, and yes I know I did, but I didnt ask for help on a great site like this. If I had had this during my first breakup I wouldnt have been so messed up for a YEAR after (and during that year I met at least 4 great girls who i scared away because I wasnt over my ex).


    You know you are probably right. I wish it was as easy as it seems to just follow everyone's great advice. My head is all over the place and my heart refuses to let go. I need more time to really see what is going to happen with us. It has been a month, I have made some progress because I am not breaking down emotionally like I was the first 2 weeks. I feel like I am able to do things without her, but I admit I do think of her and miss doing things with her. So I know it will take some time, I hope I can look back at this time and see that it made me a better person, whether I am with her or not. Its just Way harder than I ever thought. Thanks again.
  • Oct 9, 2007, 08:30 AM
    madaman
    Its OK and normal to miss her. You would be a robot if you didn't. What I am trying to say is don't degrade yourself to giving up everything for her (ie your pride, etc) because if she never wants you again you will be a broken man. There is no better feeling then looking back at a situation like this and being proud of what you did and the actions you took.
  • Oct 9, 2007, 08:36 AM
    smoothy
    You know, I've been told to leave, and I've told women to leave. Yeah its hard, and yeah it hurts, nobody here will say it isn't.

    Best way to do this is walk away, don't call her to tell her you are walking away. Just do it cold turkey, anything else just prolongs the pain.

    Now if in a month or two she calls you, just tell her she wanted space and you are giving it. Put it on her shoulders. In the mean time you move on with your life and find a woman that knows what she wants... trust me, its usually the woman that knows and the guy that doesn't.

    You have to simply pick up yourself up, and from this moment on pretend she no longer exists. No calls, no emails, to text messages, just stop and move on.

    In a few months when you find a woman that knows what she wants in life you will be thanking us, and come to the realization of what a waste of your life this one has been.

    Relationships take two people... if one isn't doing their part, or doesn't want to, or even decides there is no relationship then you have to move on.


    She has made it clear to the rest of us there is nothing... there never will be anything and any belief to the contrary is delusional behavior.

    And you ARE being delusional, and you ARE blind to the signals she is giving that are obvious to everyone else here.

    You can't make anyone else do or think what you want... so its stupid to try or even think you can. You will end up in a straight jacket in a padded cell before that ever works.

    Now do you want to end up in a nut house or are you going to take charge of your life and move on?
  • Oct 9, 2007, 08:39 AM
    madaman
    I think the hardest thing for him to accept is that she is just stringing him along right now. Because they have dated for so long, in his mind he sees a perfect girl who would never do that to him. In reality she is doing it but he won't accept it.

    Be the stronger person and walk away. Like smoothy said you will be proud of yourself, and so much happier when you find a girl who wants what you want. And yes it will happen, unless you carry away too much baggage from this girl which is what will happen if you don't let go!
  • Oct 9, 2007, 08:45 AM
    talaniman
    I can still remember when I was you! I can still remember all that came after HER! I grew! So must you! If I had not let go of the past, I would not be married for 33 years with a bunch of grandkids jumping on my belly welly!! They are in school, and me and my better half enjoy to the MAX our time together. WHY?? Because life is that PRECIOUS!! And we earned it!! The glitch in your life is temporary, grow and make your life own happy!
  • Oct 9, 2007, 09:11 AM
    ilovcali
    1. https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/relati...ice-30454.html

    2. https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/relati...rd-128846.html


    The first post is how I made my way onto this board. The second is after a 6 month hiatus. Now, my first post was about my worst break-up ever. Not the first, but definitely the worst. I was dating a woman I was planning to marry, someone I lived with, and someone I saw my life with. She left.

    The second post is how I am now. The main thing you should note in the first post is NOT my desire to GET BACK WITH THE EX. It was my DESIRE TO MOVE FORWARD. And it took me 5 MONTHS to be fully normal. Where I didn't really care anymore. But in that time, I NEVER ONCE CALLED, TEXTED, EMAILED. And guess what, I saw her all the time since she worked near me. I had all the delusions that you are having, but I realized THEY WERE DELUSIONS. I never acted on them.

    It was hell for the first three months. I worked non-stop. I worked, worked, worked. I started taking jujitsu. I hit the gym like a bat out of hell. And it started to pay off. In between the first post and the second, I briefly dated four girls. And then this summer, I had a new girlfriend. One who was very caring and loving, WAY BETTER than the ex.

    One thing I did realize, which you do not seem to, is that this girl has put you through tremendous pain. And I decided that I have a lot going for me, I'm smart, I'm fun, and I'm not too bad on the eyes. SO SCREW HER. She had it good, and she lost.

    That is not to say I did not miss her. I missed her a whole lot. And I thought of her often. Sometimes I still miss some of the good times we had. But I've good times with plenty of people, friends, family, other girlfriends. And none of them HURT ME SO BAD. So, like I said, SCREW HER.

    I spent my post break up trying not to feel like crap. What I wanted was the crappy feeling and misery to go away. The last thing that was going to do that WAS RUNNING BACK TO HER. I MOVED FORWARD, trying to distance myself from something that caused me so much pain. I DON'T WANT PAIN. I want to be the happy-go-lucky guy I normally am.

    I learned a lot from that break-up. In retrospect, I'm a far better person, and I have far more control over my emotions. And funny thing is, I'M HAPPY I WENT THROUGH it now. It has made me a better man.

    Now, PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, MOVE FORWARD. One, two, three, FORWARD MARCH.

    No more asking, "how do I get her back". Start asking the right question. HOW DO I MOVE FORWARD?

    --Cali
  • Oct 9, 2007, 09:16 AM
    madaman
    I agree with Ilovecali. I especially like the part about being happy you went through it. Situations like these really do make you a better person (if you actively take the steps to better yourself). Improving yourself will make your next relationship that much better!
  • Oct 9, 2007, 09:37 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    SO WHOEVER DUMPED, MOVE ON!! YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT ELSE IS OUT THERE UNTIL YOU LET GO.
    Not only do I remember your story, I also remember how you have helped others. Thanks!
  • Oct 9, 2007, 10:14 AM
    bummedout4
    So what if she still calls me, asks me for help with school stuff or whatever and eventually wants to hang out again? I should just ignore her and say NO?
  • Oct 9, 2007, 10:17 AM
    smoothy
    Say no... she asked for space, give it to her, all the space she can handle and then some... Like I said, put it on her shoulders.


    If you ever want to get past this and If you have an ounce of self respect you will do just that. You don't want to be the spineless door mat to anyone.
  • Oct 9, 2007, 10:37 AM
    ilovcali
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bummedout4
    So what if she still calls me, asks me for help with school stuff or whatever and eventually wants to hang out again? I should just ignore her and say NO?


    YES. YES. And YES. STAY AWAY FROM HER. You like BEING USED?

    --Cali
  • Oct 9, 2007, 09:56 PM
    talaniman
    Take back control of your life, and stop being so available.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bummedout4
    So what if she still calls me, asks me for help with school stuff or whatever and eventually wants to hang out again? I should just ignore her and say NO?
    Can't you see how the false hope is getting in the way of logical, healthy thinking? Get healthy, and then deal with the world.
  • Oct 11, 2007, 07:53 PM
    madaman
    I realized I haven't seen any posts in this thread in the last day or two, and I wanted to check up. Its funny how you can genuinely be concerned about people you've never met.

    Hope you are doing allright buddy!
  • Oct 12, 2007, 06:15 AM
    bummedout4
    Hey thanks man, yeah I am doing OK. I just pretty much have stopped wanting to talk about it and start moving forward. Everyone has given me good advice and I am just sorting out what I am going to do. Me and the ex are still in contact, maybe every other day or so and just talk about school and whatever. I talked to her mom about things going on and her opinions and she said that she sees my ex trying to be someone she isn't and that she feels that she was missing out on the single scene because her friend or other people were having so much fun and she was getting bored in our relationship. She has been sick twice in 4 weeks and her mom and I both think that eventually she will burn out, because this is not her personality. So basically she says it's a good sign that my ex hasn't cut me out and we still talk because when she doesn't want anything to do with someone, she will cut them out of her life. So... basically I am just letting things go for now, giving her the time she wants, not trying to think about where she is or what she is doing and I think next month sometime, we will have to sit down and talk about what is going on. As for that other guy, well her mom asked her about it and she said she doesn't want another boyfriend or relationship and they are just friends. So I take her word for it, and either way I can't control it so I try not to think about it. So I am willing to give her more time, so she can deal with school, stress and whatever else is going through her head. I'll see where we are at , at the end of this month and see where to go from there. She says she will be ready to talk to me when school dies down and after some time passes, so I am willing to "wait" for that.
    I am not waiting by the phone and moping around, I am trying to have fun and go out so that she knows I am living without her. So I know this is not NC but I feel with her NC will only push her away further. So this is my course of action for now, I am just trying to be patient and see where this time apart leads me and us. I may still be delusional but its only been one month and I am not ready to accept that its completely over. I understand right now we aren't together and its over, but I think in time her true feeling will come out, and she will either realize we can make it work or she doesn't want to. Right now she is confused and trying out new things, and I am trying to do the same. I know you are all going to be mad at me, and think I don't appreciate your advice, but I do. Its just I feel that in my heart I am not ready to cut her out, and push her to make a decision to either be with me now or to not call me until she figures it out. It may work out, and it may backfire and hurt me even more, but I feel it's the right thing for me right now. As things change, then I will surely adjust my thinking and what I feel is right. Thanks for the concern about me, I'm still here.
  • Oct 13, 2007, 08:54 AM
    Sad Soul
    Yep you just need a bit more time. People usually go through this for a good year.

    One this if for sure through: you'll come out of this stronger and wiser, as long as you keep making tiny efforts to move forward.
  • Oct 13, 2007, 11:42 AM
    enigmagnetic
    This may sound totally insane but it's somewhat age related. I've seen this quite a bit lately, a girl turns 22 and the biological clock switches and she wants to make sure she isn't with the wrong guy. For men it comes at a different age. Believe me it's best you let her explore and hold off like she has the plague. Furthermore, you should act aloof and colder. She is shutting you out of her life remember. Read my post dude "I'm in dire need of assistance". While it's not the same situation my girl was 23 when she said some of the same things to me. It's time to show her what kind of man you are by facing this situation with some bravado. Remember you aren't friends, you're lovers, don't let her use you while she feels lonely. She'll go out all right and date and flirt and explore, but usually they come back especially if you improve yourself and follow a strict code of no contact and strength. That's because they realize that their "illusion" of what's really out there is just that an illusion. The dating scene can be real rough you know? If you are alone it's time you find some hobbies. Join a gym and some clubs. Volunteer and you may even find a cute volunteering girl that is more giving that she is. Cheers.
  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:40 PM
    bummedout4
    Thanks for all the extra opinions and advice. I know I need to just play it cool and not be around but I just wish I could get it out of my head. The weekends are the worst because I know she is out with people, guys and I just keep thinking about it. Even when I am doing something and trying not to. I just want all this to end so I can feel normal again.
  • Oct 13, 2007, 08:12 PM
    bummedout4
    I am starting to really realize that it seems like she wants me here to talk to and help her with school but doesn't want much to do with me on the weekends, when she is out with other people. So do I just not answer her calls anymore? Whenever she does call. Do I tell her that she needs to figure out what she wants , and that I won't be used as a crutch for her? Or do I just start ignoring her and call her back whenever I choose? We are now 5 weeks out and I feel that it is going to take longer for her to realize what she wants, and since she knows I want her , she probably thinks no matter what I am here waiting for her. So how do I do this w/out being mean and making her push me further away? I know she has said she doesn't want me out of her life and wants to be able to talk to me and I can talk to her when I want and its not bothering her, but I am starting to see more clearly that this is just leaving me hanging, waiting for her and pretty much making my life miserable. I have done this for this long, but know I cannot do this much longer. It is hard to think about ignoring her and not talking to her but it seems like she is looking to do different things right now and I am not really in those plans other than a friend. Whether this is temporary or not, I don't know. Well this is what happens when I am home and have nothing to do, I think about all these things and probably overanalyze everything. Well thanks to everyone for their advice.
  • Oct 13, 2007, 08:31 PM
    madaman
    Go back and read everyone's responses from the start, and realize you already know exactly what to do. Nows your chance to start healing.
  • Oct 14, 2007, 11:54 AM
    Homegirl 50
    I think you need to act like she has told you that you guys are done. Move on.
  • Oct 14, 2007, 07:01 PM
    bummedout4
    All right everyone, I think I am down to my last straw. I don't think I can go on with this limbo and confusion. I am going to talk to her, tell her that I can't do this anymore. She is having her fun and keeping me on the side guessing what she wants or waiting for her to change her mind, if she ever will. I am just going to tell her that she is throwing away a loving relationship that has lasted 4 years, that may have had its up and down, but has the potential to be great if we both put the effort. I feel that she is lying to me about that other guy and I feel that she is dating him and possibly going out with him after telling me that she doesn't want a relationship. She seems to be telling me what I want to hear and my life is just upside down and I can't seem to get it out of my head. I don't really want to do this, but I can't go on anymore with this. I am depressed and feel lost and cofused. She needs to know that she is losing me, my love and my comfort. And if she realizes she made a mistake, I may not be here. So whether this is the right or wrong thing to do, I think I have to make it clear and take the upper hand because I don't deserve to be played like this. Well I will let you all know what happens whenever she calls me back. I hope to meet with her within next few days but if not , I will have to do it over the phone. Either way she needs to get the message.
  • Oct 14, 2007, 07:06 PM
    Homegirl 50
    You don't need to tell her how she is throwing a good thing away. Don't try to lay a guilt trip on her. Just tell her that it seems that she has gone on with her life and now you need to move on with yours. Wish her happiness and then don't call her anymore.
    This way you have called the shots. End this.

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