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  • Aug 18, 2010, 09:47 PM
    Outoftime44

    Day 5 NC.

    Last night got a bit drunk and wrote an e-mail. Didn't send. That is a breakthrough I'm hoping.

    Still lots of regrets for the person I became, confusion, but a bit more clarity as well.

    Tough adjusting to being single after becoming reliant on a person.

    Had a slip up today as I was at my friends apartment, and he left his Facebook logged on. I have her blocked, but he is friends with her and I briefly checked her FB profile to see if there was the pic of us in your profile pictures. It was and it set me back a bit... Still no contact though, still a mess, but must keep moving forward.

    Also, yesterday another former co-worker visited the office where we worked and then this former co-worker, a friend of mine (who has taken my side, been a huge help through all of this) told me she was not looking very good. I read too much into this comment, and it went backwards today as well from it.

    Tough part is that an entire area that used to be a home to me, an entire year of memories, and my place of employment have been spoiled by a sense of betrayal, regret, manipulation, and me becoming a terrible crazed person. I want those memories back, but they are tainted, they've become bad.
  • Aug 18, 2010, 09:52 PM
    vanheart

    "I want those memories back"

    You already have them. Good & bad.

    You are doing great. Just resist temptation from now on, you've learned that lesson, huh? Right?

    Remember, its over & in the past. Onward...
  • Aug 18, 2010, 09:54 PM
    Outoftime44

    I still am not at a point that I could turn her down if she came back.

    Everyone here knows how wrong she is, my family says she is broken and crazy, my friends say I should drop her if given the chance, red flag red flag by boss says, but still I need to reach the point where I am over her.

    Because her personality type is never happy, always circles back, always plays the victim. I was not the cause of her unhappiness, and she won't have better relationships because I am gone.

    I feel good owning up to my failures and improving
  • Aug 18, 2010, 10:01 PM
    vanheart

    Well, you need more time then. She isn't going to come back and more importantly you shouldn't expect it or want it.

    This was bad. You know it.

    You are right. YOU are the one that has to realize.
    Aside from me, this site, your family & friends.

    "her personality type is never happy, always circles back, always plays the victim"

    Sounds like you are still playing the victim.

    Doesn't "really" sound like your are owning up.

    Still in denial. Realize its dome for good first, then work on yourself.

    Are we regressing?
  • Aug 18, 2010, 10:23 PM
    Outoftime44

    I don't think regressing, I think I am getting stronger.

    I woke up at my friends place today, as I did a month before, and I noticed a major improvement in where I was today as opposed to a month ago.

    Yet still I'm in denial, because the intense moments of good won't come easily with someone else, if at all. Other relationships with other people I have had, never had this connection and good, but this came with bad too.

    On it's face she is really the same person as me, in so many ways, or I became more like her... we brought out the worst in each other because of it.

    But it makes me sick to think she is gone forever. I think this after effect was natural after spending a year idealizing someone, while myself esteem was low, a lot of stress and health issues, and that person acted like I was the greatest thing ever. So when that idealization is broken and that person flipped, I'm left with just the problems. I had this vision of things that was so skewed that I was acting crazy and didn't even realize it.
  • Aug 18, 2010, 10:27 PM
    vanheart

    "I'm left with just the problems"

    The only problems you are left with lies in your head.
    Your own, not hers.

    She's gone.

    So get stronger, stop checking FB. That's included in NC, BTW.
  • Aug 19, 2010, 01:08 PM
    Outoftime44
    I still find myself finding ways to get her back in my life somehow. In spite of everything... crazzzzy, stupid, but when you are in the moment, and spend a year idealizing someone as your soulmate, craziness happens.
  • Aug 19, 2010, 04:48 PM
    vanheart

    She wasn't worth idealizing. No one is.

    And wasn't your soulmate.

    This is all in the past & now under your control.
  • Aug 19, 2010, 07:20 PM
    Outoftime44

    Regressing on positive memories... Hard to break my mind from thinking she is my friend. She was all I talked to all day everyday for a year, still empty it's nothing and she thinks I'm ****
  • Aug 19, 2010, 09:47 PM
    Outoftime44

    Day 6 no contact.

    Regrets, why I just couldn't have fun with this chic, why it had to get all emotional BS
  • Aug 19, 2010, 09:47 PM
    vanheart

    What Im most interested in is what your are doing for yourself.

    "She was all I talked to all day everyday for a year"

    That's part of it. All encompassing. Obsessive, right?

    "she thinks I'm ****"

    That's also in your head. You don't know. You aren't her.
    Regardless, who cares?

    Check out Byron Katie's 4 questions to ask yourself next time your head is spinning:

    1.) Is it true?

    2.) Can you absolutely know that it's true?

    3.) How do you react, what happens, when you believe that thought?

    4.) Who would you be without the thought?

    Then turn around the concept you are questioning, and don't forget to find at least three genuine, specific examples of each turnaround.

    Focus your thoughts on you take a vacation from her.
  • Aug 19, 2010, 09:53 PM
    Outoftime44

    Right now I am staying busy with friends as much as possible, going to gym regularly, therapy sessions, working on the physical health problems that I neglected in the relationship, reading a good deepak chopra book, and trying to get back into music and writing. So I'm trying all things. Drinking too much when I go out though.

    This is going to sound shallow, but I can't get over the fact I could basically still be having fun and having sex with her if I just didn't do anything. If I just backed off, calmed down. But I think I WAS CRAZY.

    Do you mean ask those 4 questions to myself with the crazy thought that comes up? I'll work on that.
  • Aug 19, 2010, 10:00 PM
    vanheart

    Yup. Ask those questions.

    "having sex with her"

    Don't confuse sex with love or a relationship.

    Glad you are doing stuff, but at some point you will say to yourself: "Enough is enough"

    Why am I wasting my precious time dwelling on someone & something that's gone. Not to mention not good for you.

    The past. Like yesterdays paper.
    Are you holding on to that?
  • Aug 19, 2010, 10:05 PM
    Outoftime44

    That's true, the most important thing to remember, is that at first she brought out the best, but then the worst in me.
  • Aug 19, 2010, 10:28 PM
    vanheart

    People don't define us.

    If she brought out the best in you, then you must have had issues prior. Her too.

    How were you before happy & carefree or dying for a girlfriend?

    She is a user that cries wolf a manipulator, you are needy, insecure & obsessive.

    She still has you in her clutches & she not even around.

    Feels like crap, doesn't it. Take it from someone who got manipulated. All as I acted like nothing was wrong.

    Stop the madness now. Take a breather.
    Concentrate on your amazing life without her.

    Way better.
  • Aug 19, 2010, 10:38 PM
    Outoftime44
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vanheart View Post
    People dont define us.

    If she brought out the best in you, then you must have had issues prior. Her too.

    How were you before happy & carefree or dying for a gf?

    She is a user that cries wolf a manipulator, you are needy, insecure & obsessive.

    She still has you in her clutches & she not even around.

    Feels like crap, doesnt it. Take it from someone who got manipulated. All as I acted like nothing was wrong.

    Stop the madness now. Take a breather.
    Concentrate on your amazing life without her.

    Way better.

    I didn't realize I was insecure and needy, but I was sick and did not socialize for 8 months... (salmonella and mold poisoneing) finally met the new girlfriend when I was coming back to normal health. And my previous girlfriend of 2 years was moving to Angola and we would have to end things for good.

    I was happy, ambitious, content, but was dying for a GF. So I thought I met a perfect match and dove in... she said all the right things, acted like I was perfect. But then I started breaking down and doubting her. Became so vulnerable. She is insecure herself.

    I think in this case we both saw the same things in each other, good and bad, but also she got pregnant early and things got serious because of that. Also we did have so much fun together, talk all the time, but the truth is I was the one who was getting angry with her, not trusting her, doubting her more and more... She really had no problems with me except when I was constantly getting in bad moods towards her.

    She made me nervous- I guess I knew all along she was two faced...

    But I was nervous because I was insecure and because I knew her very well- better than she knows herself. I had reason to be nervous.

    She did love me, that is for sure, and I her.

    But we both were walking on eggshells, twisted.

    It's sad to admit that she was a user and a manipulator, I had no idea, but when I tell people things, they say how she was playing games. Yet it isn't fair to put all the blame on her, like I said, I was CRAZY

    Yeah she had me in the palm of her hands since the first time she broke up with me... and I got squeezed more ever since then.

    Although for some reason the previous breakups when we kept talking I didn't mind so much, I was way calmer. I think it is more the psychological shock of no contact and not being in each others lives. I was kind of OK after the breakups where we kept talking.
  • Aug 19, 2010, 10:43 PM
    vanheart

    All you need to know is that's its done. Wasn't & isn't right.

    Then your next thought.
    Hopefully a good unrelated done.
  • Aug 19, 2010, 10:45 PM
    Outoftime44

    Yeah done, scary to realize still, done.

    Feel as if I had a conversation in person I could easily talk her out of it, she probably knows it too, but I've realized I needed my life back in order without her
  • Aug 19, 2010, 10:55 PM
    vanheart

    "feel as if i had a conversation in person i could easily talk her out of it, she probably knows it too."

    Talk her out of what? ITS DONE. NOTHING ELSE TO SAY TO EACH OTHER!

    "scary to realize still"
    Not sure what you are afraid of. A better life?

    C'mon, man. I was accused of being an attention magnet here, but really...

    Take a step back. Read through your thread a dozen more times. Take a rest, listen.

    Don't beat your head against the wall anymore.

    Im sick of her. You?
  • Aug 20, 2010, 07:35 AM
    Outoftime44

    Yes sick of her. Posting here somehow keeps it from taking over my daily life. Clearly the toughest part of all this has been the realizAtion of the person I became, and not her.

    I knew all along this would happen with her... Up and down, talking marriage then breakup on and off for months. It's why I snapped I knew it. But still it was me who snapped and became a bum, and a year as that person is taking hard to get over even though I am fixing it. I couldn't imagine being that person for the rest of my life - scary.

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