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  • Jun 11, 2008, 04:55 PM
    Kaege
    Age difference hindering me to ask them out.
    I have very strong feelings for this guy... he's one of my best friends, and we're really really close, I've been in love with him for almost a year now.
    The summer I started to like him, I broke up with my boyfriend because I felt unfaithful liking someone else at the same time. Me and my ex never got back together again.

    One of my friends told him about my feelings for him last year, but he simply joked about it being cute and really said nothing else about it.

    I made a promise to a friend of mine we'd both express our feelings/ask out the people we like by the end of the summer, and he's been single for about a year now too.

    The problem remains that I'm unsure whether he likes me back or not.. and we have a 7 to 8 year age difference. It doesn't bother me... but I feel like it'd bother him and that he only really sees me as a kid.

    But I really want to try asking for a chance... any advice about it? Whether I should ask or not?

    [Also, if I do, I want to pick a good day to do it. I couldn't find a board that relates to Astrology, but if anyone knows, I'm a Libra and he's a Gemini. Doesn't anyone know possibly when would be the best day to do it under astrological influence.. ]

    P.S- An important piece of info possibly, we only know each other online. So it'd be long-distance.
  • Jun 11, 2008, 05:00 PM
    Fr_Chuck
    Well what are the ages, if you are 18 and they are 10 yes that is a issue.
    I am saying this since it sounds somewhat like a teen post "loving" someone you have not dated and having friends tell them.

    Actual ages will help.
  • Jun 11, 2008, 05:06 PM
    progunr
    My advice is to leave the internet dating alone.

    It is a fantasy, not a reality.

    You have no idea who this person is you have been talking to. It could be a woman. It could be a 70 year old pervert, you have no way of knowing.

    You are not in love with "someone", you are infatuated with what someone has typed into a computer screen.

    Find real guys, in person, in the area where you can actually get to know them and date them.

    You will have enough hurt and disappointment in your dating life, without adding more with this internet dating crap.
  • Jun 11, 2008, 05:06 PM
    Kaege
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
    Well what are the ages, if you are 18 and they are 10 yes that is a issue.
    I am saying this since it sounds somewhat like a teen post "loving" someone you have not dated and having friends tell them.

    Actual ages will help.

    I'm 14, turning 15 soon. He turned 22 just a week or so ago.

    And, I know that usually teenagers haven't a clue what real "Love" is. But I must stress the fact that I am not one to wear my heart on my sleeve, and I really put a LOT of emphesis on the word. I'm not one for levity with that subject.
  • Jun 11, 2008, 05:09 PM
    Kaege
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by progunr
    My advice is to leave the internet dating alone.

    It is a fantasy, not a reality.

    You have no idea who this person is you have been talking to. It could be a woman. It could be a 70 year old pervert, you have no way of knowing.

    You are not in love with "someone", you are infatuated with what someone has typed into a computer screen.

    Find real guys, in person, in the area where you can actually get to know them and date them.

    You will have enough hurt and disappointment in your dating life, without adding more with this internet dating crap.

    >_>; I've dated online before. And I can tell the difference between an internet stalker and a real person. I know who he is, have proof of it too.
    And I can't really go "Find" people to date. When I get feelings, I get feelings. I'm not into the whole 'Go have small-talk with that guy from the party and see where it goes', type of thing.
  • Jun 11, 2008, 05:12 PM
    Fr_Chuck
    No, anyone in their 20's wanting to date a 14 year old is a stalker or worst. And yes I know at 14/15 you will be getting feelings, and these will grow and mature over the next 5 and 6 years.

    But no, this relationship is wrong in every way I could even conceive
  • Jun 11, 2008, 05:15 PM
    Kaege
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
    no, anyone in their 20's wanting to date a 14 year old is a stalker or worst. and yes I know at 14/15 you will be getting feelings, and these will grow and mature over the next 5 and 6 years.

    But no, this relationship is wrong in every way I could even concieve

    >__> Thanks...

    Would it be "Wrong in every way" If I was 20 and he was 27?
  • Jun 11, 2008, 05:20 PM
    Fr_Chuck
    No, so if you want to wait 5 or 6 years, but that does not justify a chlld being with a grown man, I would hope your parents would put a stop to it before it even got started.
  • Jun 11, 2008, 05:23 PM
    progunr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaege
    >_>; I've dated online before. And I can tell the difference between an internet stalker and a real person. I know who he is, have proof of it too.
    And I can't really go "Find" people to date. When I get feelings, I get feelings. I'm not into the whole 'Go have small-talk with that guy from the party and see where it goes', type of thing.

    Sorry, I didn't realize at 14 that you were an expert on internet dating, my mistake.

    I would be interested in what "proof" you have received?
  • Jun 11, 2008, 05:25 PM
    Fr_Chuck
    And of course at 14, dating should not be going much of any "place" either. Now should it be much of a party except for teen parties.

    I am sorry if I sound blunt but this is so obvous it is jumpint out and yelling.
  • Jun 11, 2008, 05:27 PM
    Kaege
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by progunr
    Sorry, I didn't realize at 14 that you were an expert on internet dating, my mistake.

    I would be interested in what "proof" you have received?

    I know many of his friends (And not able to be him on other screen names, because in chats they all talk at the same time), I've seen multiple pictures that have also been proofed by some of his friends, and I've been cam to cam with him.

    That's some of the most prominent proof.
  • Jun 11, 2008, 05:29 PM
    Kaege
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
    And of course at 14, dating should not be going much of any "place" either. Now should it be much of a party except for teen parties.

    I am sorry if I sound blunt but this is so obvous it is jumpint out and yelling.

    It's fine. Of course I'm not going to agree with every reply... but if all I do is listen to the sorts of replies I want to hear, that'd be sort've missing the point of asking now wouldn't it? So, I do respect your opinion.
  • Jun 12, 2008, 07:09 AM
    talaniman
    All due respect, but the worse part of this on line dating is you build up a lot of feelings, without the benefit of information, you can only get face to face. Given your age, your experience handling your own feelings is suspect, no matter how mature you may be.
    As he talks to you, he may be talking to others the same way, and you would never know, and never know how he really lives his daily life, and with whom.
    To answer your question directly, why would a grown man take a chance of going to jail, by pursuing a relationship with a CHILD. No disrespect, but 14, no matter how mature you sound, is not an ideal situation for a MAN.
  • Jun 12, 2008, 07:21 AM
    HistorianChick
    I must admit, I was surprised to read that you are 14. You have a very good head on your shoulders and are very well-spoken... I'd even say that yes, you are mature for your age - judging from your post.

    These are all very good things and are a huge testament to you as a person, but they don't change the fact that you are 14. From reading your original post, I formed the opinion that you were in your 20's and he was in his late 20's/early 30's. In that case (that age difference), age is not so much an issue.

    BUT (and that's a big "but), you ARE 14 and no, that is not acceptable. You are very mature for your age, but under no circumstances is it acceptable for a 20 year old to even entertain thoughts of dating a 14 year old girl.

    No circumstances.

    So sweetie, use that awesome personality you have to get to know the guys in your class, at your church, in your community. Don't focus on older men online - because like Fr_Chuck said, you honestly do not know if the man that you "love" is the man that is corresponding with you. You can do ANYTHING online these days.

    Protect yourself. Protect your childhood. Get into drama/theatre. Focus on your studies. You'll find that white knight one day; don't wish away your precious school days.
  • Jun 12, 2008, 07:26 AM
    ScottGem
    Can we assume that he knows how old you really are? Because if he does, you need to end this right away. A 22 yr old should not be camming with a 14 yr old. Its one thing to participate in chats but camming goes too far in my opinion.

    While I agree with HistorianChick, that you are well spoken and appear mature for 14, you still are only 14. And there is a big difference between 14 and 22. Too big for a relationship now. An 8 year difference doesn't mean much when both are adults but when one is a minor, its very wrong.
  • Jun 12, 2008, 01:36 PM
    Kaege
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ScottGem
    Can we assume that he knows how old you really are? Because if he does, you need to end this right away. A 22 yr old should not be camming with a 14 yr old. Its one thing to participate in chats but camming goes too far in my opinion.

    While I agree with HistorianChick, that you are well spoken and appear mature for 14, you still are only 14. And there is a big difference between 14 and 22. Too big for a relationship now. An 8 year difference doens't mean much when both are adults but when one is a minor, its very wrong.

    What's wrong with camming? o_o We don't do anything pervy. It's juse like talking on the phone.
  • Jun 12, 2008, 01:38 PM
    Kaege
    Thank you all for your responses, by the way.
  • Jun 12, 2008, 04:52 PM
    ScottGem
    What's wrong with camming IN YOUR CASE is that a 22 yr old should not be having a personal relationship with a 14 yr old. I'm not saying you did anything that you shouldn't, but a 22 yr old should know that he risks problems in such a case. It's one thing to chat in a group, but when it goes one on one, alarms bells go off.
  • Jun 12, 2008, 06:05 PM
    Kaege
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ScottGem
    What's wrong with camming IN YOUR CASE is that a 22 yr old should not be having a personal relationship with a 14 yr old. I'm not saying you did anything that you shouldn't, but a 22 yr old should know that he risks problems in such a case. It's one thing to chat in a group, but when it goes one on one, alarms bells go off.

    o_o
    I'm sorry, I really don't know what you mean.
    Of course we talk one on one,
    He's one of my best friends. >_>
    Nobody risks anything by having friends.
  • Jun 12, 2008, 06:18 PM
    CrystalAnn144
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaege
    I have very strong feelings for this guy...he's one of my best friends, and we're really really close, I've been in love with him for almost a year now.
    The summer I started to like him, I broke up with my boyfriend because I felt unfaithful liking someone else at the same time. Me and my ex never got back together again.

    One of my friends told him about my feelings for him last year, but he simply joked about it being cute and really said nothing else about it.

    I made a promise to a friend of mine we'd both express our feelings/ask out the people we like by the end of the summer, and he's been single for about a year now too.

    The problem remains that I'm unsure whether he likes me back or not.. and we have a 7 to 8 year age difference. It doesn't bother me... but I feel like it'd bother him and that he only really sees me as a kid.

    But I really wanna try asking for a chance... any advice about it? Whether I should ask or not?

    [Also, if I do, I wanna pick a good day to do it. I couldn't find a board that relates to Astrology, but if anyone knows, I'm a Libra and he's a Gemini. Doesn anyone know possibly when would be the best day to do it under astrological influence..?]

    P.S- An important peice of info possibly, we only know eachother online. So it'd be long-distance.

    Well it depends on the people, how mature they are how independent they are, and the ages. If the youngest age is about 17/18 and then like 7 years older than that, IF you are read for it, then go for it. I am in a relationship with a man that is 6 years older than me, but I am very mature for my age and mentally it seems that we are the same, there is no difference in how we think or act, and we have been together for a few years now and things are going great, we are getting married. So basically I think that it depends on the situation and the people.
  • Jun 12, 2008, 06:58 PM
    jrsg
    14 and 22, AND long distance is not a practical relationship at all.

    I am 16. My girlfriends ex is 20. My girlfriend is 16. Even that 4 year difference is pretty big. She is in grade 10 of high school, he is in 3rd year of university. The relationship didn't last.

    The 20 year old guy wanted a family, marriage, and a life after he graduates university. The 16 year old girl wanted some fun, and a supportive, maybe high school sweetheart style boyfriend. This difference in needs caused them to break up.

    I can assure that the same will happen to you. He will want many different things than you out of the relationship, like sex. You at 14 and him at 22... I'm assuming he has a different mind than you, and different goals. The guy is a creep in the first place to be preying on 14 year olds over the internet.

    If you two can have any relationship whatsoever, it would be a "big brother" "little sister" relationship. But if he wants anything more, get away from him.

    I wouldn't even support you talking to this guy over the internet as friends. He is a creep, and in my opinion, you should stay away from him.
  • Jun 13, 2008, 05:59 AM
    ScottGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaege
    o_o
    I'm sorry, I really don't know what you mean.
    Of course we talk one on one,
    He's one of my best friends. >_>
    Nobody risks anything by having friends.

    It is highly unusual and very suspicious for a 22 yr old male to be a best friend to a 14 yr old female. I'm sorry if you don't accept or believe that, but its true. Its bad enough that the relationship exists online, but to take it into the real world would be a big mistake. A 22 yr old and a 14 yr old are at vastly different stages of their lives with very different interests.
  • Jun 13, 2008, 05:14 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaege
    >_>; I've dated online before. And I can tell the difference between an internet stalker and a real person. I know who he is, have proof of it too.
    And I can't really go "Find" people to date. When I get feelings, I get feelings. I'm not into the whole 'Go have small-talk with that guy from the party and see where it goes', type of thing.


    Certainly - would you share how you know the difference between stalkers and real people? It's a real problem in my area and I don't have the answer.
  • Jun 13, 2008, 05:16 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CrystalAnn144
    well it depends on the people, how mature they are how independent they are, and the ages. if the youngest age is about 17/18 and then like 7 years older than that, IF you are read for it, then go for it. i am in a relationship with a man that is 6 years older than me, but i am very mature for my age and mentally it seems that we are the same, there is no difference in how we think or act, and we have been together for a few years now and things are going great, we are getting married. so basically i think that it depends on the situation and the people.


    I have read your other posts and don't necessarily think you are very mature - before you marry you should turn yourself in on the outstanding warrant or your boyfriend is going to be raked over the coals by law enforcement.
  • Jun 13, 2008, 07:44 PM
    Kaege
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jrsg
    14 and 22, AND long distance is not a practical relationship at all.

    I am 16. My girlfriends ex is 20. My girlfriend is 16. Even that 4 year difference is pretty big. She is in grade 10 of highschool, he is in 3rd year of university. The relationship didn't last.

    The 20 year old guy wanted a family, marriage, and a life after he graduates university. The 16 year old girl wanted some fun, and a supportive, maybe highschool sweetheart style boyfriend. This difference in needs caused them to break up.

    I can assure that the same will happen to you. He will want many different things than you out of the relationship, like sex. You at 14 and him at 22... I'm assuming he has a different mind than you, and different goals. The guy is a creep in the first place to be preying on 14 year olds over the internet.

    If you two can have any relationship whatsoever, it would be a "big brother" "little sister" relationship. But if he wants anything more, get away from him.

    I wouldn't even support you talking to this guy over the internet as friends. He is a creep, and in my opinion, you should stay away from him.

    Why did you assume he's "Preying" on 14 year old girls? He doesn't want anything LIKE that. He's not a stalker. And I don't appreciate you calling my best friend a creep!
    By the way, I don't talk to mindless perverts who only expect sex out of relationship, mind you. And I'm not the sort of person that only looks for fun in a relationship. Love is much more important than the highschool-sweetheart sort of deal.
  • Jun 13, 2008, 07:56 PM
    Kaege
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JudyKayTee
    Certainly - would you share how you know the difference between stalkers and real people? It's a real problem in my area and I don't have the answer.

    Stalkers ask personal questions, never have pictures, never tell you about their friends, say perverted things, ask for your number... a number of qualities.

    Real people have proofed friends, have a realistic non-personal life-probing personality, just basically the opposite of the stalker traits.
  • Jun 13, 2008, 08:16 PM
    Kaege
    Allright, I don't want anymore answers to this original post.

    (Does anyone know how to delete questions?)

    Nobodie's helped, and most of the people who did answer have proven to assume all the wrong things.

    End question.
  • Jun 13, 2008, 08:29 PM
    jrsg
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaege
    Why did you assume he's "Preying" on 14 year old girls? He doesn't want anything LIKE that. He's not a stalker. And I don't appreciate you calling my best friend a creep!
    By the way, I don't talk to mindless perverts who only expect sex out of relationship, mind you. And i'm not the sort of person that only looks for fun in a relationship. Love is much more important than the highschool-sweetheart sort of deal.

    You are 14. I don't think you even know what a mature, true love kind of relationship is. I understand why you are mad. You probably came to this site here looking for advice on how to ask this guy to be your boyfriend. You wanted support, and things like that. Instead, you got the truth.

    Bottom line, you are 14 and are not mature. You think you know everything, you think you are an expert in everything. You know all. You are invincible. Everybody else is wrong. That is the kind of attitude that is scaring me. One day, if you continue meeting guys on the internet, you are going to make a mistake in your judgement. There is the possibility for tragedy here. I don't think you understand the risk you are taking. You are best to meet guys your own age, NOT 22!

    You can be mad at me, I don't really care. However, what I do care about is you becoming the victim of an online predator.

    If this guy is as you say, that he is NOT a creep, then he won't want to have a romantic relationship with you. If he is a respectable, decent person, he would pursue a brother-sister FRIENDSHIP style of relationship and NOTHING MORE. If this guy accepts anything more than friendship, HE IS A CREEP! I know you don't want to hear it, but trust me, ITS TRUE!

    So, my advice would be as follows:
    - ask the guy what kind of relationship he is looking for with you
    -If he says he wants to be friends, and a brother-sister thing, okay
    -If he says he wants to be romantic and be your boyfriend, GET THE HELL AWAY FROM HIM!

    I am not even sure you should stay around if he says he just wants to be friends. He could be manipulating you, and you don't even know it. So, basically, my overall advice to you would be to break all contact with this guy. Stop meeting guys over the internet. Start meeting guys your own age, or at least within reason.

    -Jay


    P.S, I know that what I am saying is going to piss you off, but it has to be said. For the other people on this thread... Am I the only one who feels this way about this situation?
  • Jun 13, 2008, 08:31 PM
    jrsg
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaege
    Allright, I don't want anymore answers to this orginal post.

    (Does anyone know how to delete questions?)

    Nobodie's helped, and most of the people who did answer have proven to assume all the wrong things.

    End question.

    I'm sorry you feel this way. But everybody has helped, you just can't see it.
    I hope you make the right decision here.
  • Jun 13, 2008, 08:56 PM
    Kaege
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jrsg
    You are 14. I don't think you even know what a mature, true love kind of relationship is. I understand why you are mad. You probably came to this site here looking for advice on how to ask this guy to be your boyfriend. You wanted support, and things like that. Instead, you got the truth.

    Bottom line, you are 14 and are not mature. You think you know everything, you think you are an expert in everything. You know all. You are invincible. Everybody else is wrong. That is the kind of attitude that is scaring me. One day, if you continue meeting guys on the internet, you are going to make a mistake in your judgement. There is the possibility for tragedy here. I don't think you understand the risk you are taking. You are best to meet guys your own age, NOT 22!

    You can be mad at me, I don't really care. However, what I do care about is you becoming the victim of an online predator.

    If this guy is as you say, that he is NOT a creep, then he won't want to have a romantic relationship with you. If he is a respectable, decent person, he would persue a brother-sister FRIENDSHIP style of relationship and NOTHING MORE. If this guy accepts anything more than friendship, HE IS A CREEP! I know you don't want to hear it, but trust me, ITS TRUE!

    So, my advice would be as follows:
    - ask the guy what kind of relationship he is looking for with you
    -If he says he wants to be friends, and a brother-sister thing, okay
    -If he says he wants to be romantic and be your boyfriend, GET THE HELL AWAY FROM HIM!

    I am not even sure you should stay around if he says he just wants to be friends. He could be manipulating you, and you don't even know it. So, basically, my overall advice to you would be to break all contact with this guy. Stop meeting guys over the internet. Start meeting guys your own age, or at least within reason.

    -Jay


    P.S, I know that what I am saying is going to piss you off, but it has to be said. For the other people on this thread... Am I the only one who feels this way about this situation?

    I tried not to come off as that way, sorry that I did; No, I don't think I know everything and I know I'm just a 14 year old kid, and I could understand why you'd think that's how I feel.
    But believe me when I say that no, I don't think I'm an expert, etcetera.

    I didn't expect every response to be supportive, but I also didn't expect to have my feelings ridiculed, of sorts, by most of them either. (Not you personally, by the way.)


    I can't help who I meet, I use the computer a lot, and I socialize via MMORPGS and other sorts. I'm going to make friends with people online. I can't choose who I fall for, and I don't personally like the fact it always ends up being someone out of reason.

    Perhaps when I'm older it will be easier, because it tends to be I fall for the more mature types, (Who of course tend to be older), rather than most of the perverted teenage population at my school.


    Thank you for your advice and your opinion.
  • Jun 13, 2008, 09:13 PM
    jrsg
    Sorry if I came across as a jerk, but the reason I do that is because I care. The reason everybody here speaks up this way is because they care.
    The reality is, is that there are thousands of teens who are preyed on every day. You can't blame us for looking at the situation the way we do.

    I think you need to look at this situation though. Find out what he wants. If he wants more, I strongly recommend you break contact with him. But really think, he is 22. You are 14. Sorry, but it just isn't practical.

    And I know that you can't choose who you fall for, but maturing involves making smart decisions, and good choices. You need to start thinking with your head, and not with your heart. Love isn't the only part of a relationship.

    The internet is great thing. It provides us with a resource to research projects for school. It allows us to communicate, and to socialize. It also makes us vulnerable to many bad people, including online predators.

    So, I hope you make a smart decision based on our advice, and on your own thoughts and expirience. Let me know what you choose to do. I will stop trying to convince you to think the way I do, sorry for doing that. But, you know how I feel, and my thoughts on your situation. So good luck with this, and I hope you make a good, responsible, mature decision.

    No hard feelings right?
  • Jun 13, 2008, 09:13 PM
    Kaege
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ScottGem
    It is highly unusual and very suspicious for a 22 yr old male to be a best friend to a 14 yr old female. I'm sorry if you don't accept or believe that, but its true. Its bad enough that the relationship exists online, but to take it into the real world would be a big mistake. A 22 yr old and a 14 yr old are at vastly different stages of their lives with very different interests.

    How is that supicious? I'M not HIS best friend really, but I consider him one of mine.
    If we were that vastly different anyway, we wouldn't be friends.
    Honestly I'd have to say we're pretty much the same at Mental Level.
  • Jun 13, 2008, 09:19 PM
    Kaege
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jrsg
    Sorry if I came across as a jerk, but the reason I do that is because I care. The reason everybody here speaks up this way is becasue they care.
    The reality is, is that there are thousands of teens who are preyed on every day. You can't blame us for looking at the situation the way we do.

    I think you need to look at this situation though. Find out what he wants. If he wants more, I strongly recommend you break contact with him. But really think, he is 22. You are 14. Sorry, but it just isn't practical.

    And I know that you can't choose who you fall for, but maturing involves making smart decisions, and good choices. You need to start thinking with your head, and not with your heart. Love isn't the only part of a relationship.

    The internet is great thing. It provides us with a resource to research projects for school. It allows us to communicate, and to socialize. It also makes us vulnerable to many bad people, including online predators.

    So, I hope you make a smart decision based on our advice, and on your own thoughts and expirience. Let me know what you choose to do. I will stop trying to convince you to think the way I do, sorry for doing that. But, you know how I feel, and my thoughts on your situation. So good luck with this, and I hope you make a good, responsible, mature decision.

    No hard feelings right?

    Of course, thank you very much. =]
  • Jun 13, 2008, 10:11 PM
    KalFour
    Hi Kaege.
    I like the way so many people have assumed an online friendship = stalker... good to know people have so much faith in the world. :P
    I've had friendships over the internet too, and they can definitely be real. But they can also be misleading. People are inclined to sound very different online because, not being face-to-face, they can be more open. They also get to consider their wording before typing it, and avoid spontaneity. I'd advise anyone with feelings for an online friend to at least meet them in person before trying to get into a relationship.

    The age gap is an issue. No matter how mature you are, you're at very different stages in your life. And as nice and harmless as he seems, he's 22, so probably wants sex out of a relationship. Which, at 22 is perfectly reasonable. But at 14 isn't. You want a high school romance, he wants an adult relationship.
    He might like you, even respect you, but chances are he DOES see you as a child in many ways.
    Maybe in a few years the age gap won't be an issue. But at the moment it probably is.

    Kal
  • Jun 13, 2008, 10:32 PM
    taytortot
    No I think your too young you might get hurt but if you really feel like you should d this and you know in your hear you should then take a risk but I'm just saying it won't turn out good mabye when your like 22 and he's 29 that woud be OK but 14 and 22... no
  • Jun 14, 2008, 04:18 AM
    ScottGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jrsg
    Sorry if I came across as a jerk, but the reason I do that is because I care. The reason everybody here speaks up this way is becasue they care.
    The reality is, is that there are thousands of teens who are preyed on every day. You can't blame us for looking at the situation the way we do.

    ....
    No hard feelings right?

    You did NOT come across as a jerk. Your posts here have been right on the money.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaege
    How is that supicious? I'M not HIS best friend really, but I consider him one of mine.
    If we were that vastly different anyways, we wouldn't be friends.
    Honestly I'd have to say we're pretty much the same at Mental Level.

    That's the point you refuse to accept and understand. If you think a 14 yr old girl and 22 yr old man are on the same level, then your judgement is impaired and you are deluding yourself.

    I'm sorry if you think this is ridiculing your feelings, but those of use who are mature, who have epxerience and who care about you, know you need to be told the truth. Even if you refuse to accept it.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaege
    Allright, I don't want anymore answers to this orginal post.

    (Does anyone know how to delete questions?)

    Nobodie's helped, and most of the people who did answer have proven to assume all the wrong things.

    End question.

    This is an example of how you need some more maturing. You don't like what you hear so "Nobody helped". You ignore the fact that we have all expressed concern for you. You may not feel that concern is well placed, but that's what has motivated us.
  • Jun 14, 2008, 07:57 AM
    jrsg
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ScottGem
    You did NOT come across as a jerk. Your posts here have been right on the money.

    Thanks, That's what I thought. I just needed to hear that I was right from some other people. I was just doubting myself. I just thought I might be a little hard here. Now that I think about it again, she does need a talking good to.

    The fact that she won't listen to ANY of us here does show her immaturity, and it really is too bad that she would ignore us like she is doing.

    I hope she does come back, and continues to 'argue' with us, for lack of a better word, and she maybe will see the light one day. That 22 year olds shouldn't date 14 year olds. There are laws in place to prevent this, and those laws are there for a reason. Even 18 would be illegal.

    I just think that if she isn't going to come back, and talk to us, that we have to hope for the best. Maybe she will make her mistake. Maybe she will learn from it. She has the final decision, and if she refuses to listen, all we can really do is hope for the best...
    __________________

    At one point, she said that they are at the same mental and emotional level, and that is suspicious for a 22 year old, like ScottGem said. For him to even say that he has the same interests as this child is suspicious.

    I stick to my opinion that Kaege should get away from this guy and cut all communication with him. She should stop meeting people online immediately. She should start thinking with her head, not her heart. Be realistic. Meet guys her own age.
  • Jun 14, 2008, 01:22 PM
    Kaege
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jrsg
    Thanks, Thats what I thought. I just needed to hear that I was right from some other people. I was just doubting myself. I just thought I might be a little hard here. Now that I think about it again, she does need a talking good to.

    The fact that she won't listen to ANY of us here does show her immaturity, and it really is too bad that she would ignore us like she is doing.

    I hope she does come back, and continues to 'argue' with us, for lack of a better word, and she maybe will see the light one day. That 22 year olds shouldn't date 14 year olds. There are laws in place to prevent this, and those laws are there for a reason. Even 18 would be illegal.

    I just think that if she isn't going to come back, and talk to us, that we have to hope for the best. Maybe she will make her mistake. Maybe she will learn from it. She has the final decision, and if she refuses to listen, all we can really do is hope for the best...
    __________________

    At one point, she said that they are at the same mental and emotional level, and that is suspicious for a 22 year old, like ScottGem said. For him to even say that he has the same interests as this child is suspicious.

    I stick to my opinion that Kaege should get away from this guy and cut all communication with him. She should stop meeting people online immediatly. She should start thinking with her head, not her heart. Be realistic. Meet guys her own age.

    We both like to roleplay, we both enjoy the arts, and we both love anime. Having the same interests or hobbies isn't anything supicious.

    Relationship issue aside, now you're questioning our very friendship?
    I see absolutely no reason why I should just go and drop everything because of our age.


    Also I didn't say that I wasn't listening, I AM listening. I guess I can't change the fact I'm coming off as immature.
    But this post has gone from A relationship is out of the question, to My friend is a creep and any sort of communication is suspicious or wrong.

    I asked for help on whether I should pursue what would make me happy or not,
    Not for my friends to be basically insulted.

    Most everyone has said the same thing, so please, for sake of my climbing stress level, I'd appreciate if the 'arguing' is over.

    I apologize.
  • Jun 14, 2008, 01:27 PM
    Kaege
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ScottGem
    You did NOT come across as a jerk. Your posts here have been right on the money.



    That's the point you refuse to accept and understand. If you think a 14 yr old girl and 22 yr old man are on the same level, then your judgement is impaired and you are deluding yourself.

    I'm sorry if you think this is ridiculing your feelings, but those of use who are mature, who have epxerience and who care about you, know you need to be told the truth. Even if you refuse to accept it.



    This is an example of how you need some more maturing. You don't like what you hear so "Nobody helped". You ignore the fact that we have all expressed concern for you. You may not feel that concern is well placed, but that's what has motivated us.

    I did not ignore that fact.

    And I realize I cannot express or show any real detail to the reality of our friendship, thus it's easy to see why you all are so suspicious of it.

    I guess this defeats the point of asking in the first place, but I don't think you can rightfully say you have real concern for me. I'm just a stranger.
  • Jun 14, 2008, 01:33 PM
    Kaege
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KalFour
    Hi Kaege.
    I like the way so many people have assumed an online friendship = stalker... good to know people have so much faith in the world. :P
    I've had friendships over the internet too, and they can definitely be real. But they can also be misleading. People are inclined to sound very different online because, not being face-to-face, they can be more open. They also get to consider their wording before typing it, and avoid spontaneity. I'd advise anyone with feelings for an online friend to at least meet them in person before trying to get into a relationship.

    The age gap is an issue. No matter how mature you are, you're at very different stages in your life. And as nice and harmless as he seems, he's 22, so probably wants sex out of a relationship. Which, at 22 is perfectly reasonable. But at 14 isn't. You want a highschool romance, he wants an adult relationship.
    He might like you, even respect you, but chances are he DOES see you as a child in many ways.
    Maybe in a few years the age gap won't be an issue. But at the moment it probably is.

    Kal

    Mm, that is true.
    I suppose waiting is mandatory, or perhaps trying again to get over it.

    Thank you for your reply.

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