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  • Apr 2, 2008, 08:03 PM
    Spranza
    It Can Help A Lot!
    I just need someone to listen to me...


    I cry day and night... and I can't hold it any longer...


    You know those police movies... when a cop work under cover to get some information and data from some one... in order to do this he has to live with them and be one of them... then he get in love with this family,. and can't do his business any more...

    and he will be between tow fires... TWO FIRES... the fire of his job losing,. and the FIRE of being a liar to someone as pure as rain drops... and you can't say any word to him... because you know deep inside that you are a LAIR...


    I am like this PERSON...
    I lied to someone... to make fun of him... BUT NOW I am becoming his best friend... and he is everything to me... I never imagined that it will be like this...

    it's a dirty game I played... and now I am regretting everyday passes by.. I tell a lie to that person... I AM SORRY... I never meant it to be like this...

    I loved you like a true friend... and ONLY god knows about it... and I can't face you with the truth... because I am afraid if I lose you...


    it has been now ONE year and a half... we are friends... but he doesn't know who the real am I??

    And we spend nights chatting and having fun... but as soon as he is gone... I feel like a f(&(* as^%$#... I DESERVE TO DIE... he is sooo good... and I betrayed him...

    I can't say the truth... I can't tell anyone about this... its only me , him , my friend and my niece... and now you people... here in the forum... I need someone to listen to me... I have been tortured everyday... keeping this all inside... I can't bear it anymore... and I am getting deeper and deeper in this s*&(*!!


    PLEAS GOD SAVE ME... ITS KILLLING ME... EVERYWHERE I GO... I THINK OF THIS AND I BECOME SAD... AND I HOLD MY TEARS... BUT I CAN'T PRETEND I AM HAPPY... EVERY ONE AROUND ME KNOWS THAT THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG... I am not as I used to be... funny and happy... I am changing...

    by telling you that... I feel much more better... at least there is someone share it with me now...
  • Apr 2, 2008, 08:36 PM
    lengkyx
    It's OK, honey. The important thing is how you feel about this person right now. May be you did some mistakes in the past. It's good that you acknowledge this and that you are sorry about it. Your actions towards this person now should be a testimonial that you have changed. Next thing that you should do is to forgive yourself. Always remember you can't be that bad especially you're a child of God. Peace!
  • Apr 2, 2008, 08:57 PM
    Spranza
    I don't know what to say to you Lengkyx... BUT your answer made me in tears... I hope he will forgive me after what I did to him... I don't think so? :(

    And I can't forgive myself... I would rather burn in hell... than telling him lies again... but I just can't stop... I can't stop talking to him... and I can't stop lying too... because once I do... he will know about everything... and he will hate me...

    I AM FORCED TO DO IT!.

    And what hurst the most that he trusts me blindly... he even gave me his email password... and asked me to log on with his own...

    I WON'T never betray him and do anything to his email... or even to him... but I believe that telling him lies will hurt him even more when he knows about it...

    Thanks for your replay... it really helps...

    But please don't be that kind to me... I don't deserve it... I deserve insults from every one read this!.

    You can say :
    You BH... why did you do that..!

    You can say :
    What the hell are you thinking... its someone's feelings... YOU SICK?!

    You can say :
    GO TO HELL!!

    You can say :
    DIE

    You can say :
    Cry yourself a river... no one will forgive you...

    You can say :
    May God burn you alive...

    You can say :
    You are Cursed!!

    You can say :
    Find a doctor!

    You can say : anything that make me feel better...

    I really mean it... I MEAN IT O_O...

    At least I can feel that there are others who can take his rights... and avenge him...
  • Apr 2, 2008, 09:09 PM
    ihatewestseneca
    I think we're going to need more info if we're going to have any luck making any sense of this/giving you some decent advice.

    The purpose of this forum is to post whatever you want and not feel judged. Maybe you did something awful, it doesn't matter what we think anyway, we're just a bunch of jerks on the internets.

    It'll really make you feel better if you write down everything that happened and how you feel. Then we can go from there. But by the looks of things, you got to learn to forgive yourself, we all do stupid things.
  • Apr 2, 2008, 09:19 PM
    talaniman
    Please make sense for all us poor guys who can't read minds, or broken senseless english. Have you no mercy?
  • Apr 2, 2008, 09:31 PM
    rockerchick_682
    Lol Talaniman I totally agree. I tried reading the whole thing, all I got was something about being fake to a guy.
  • Apr 2, 2008, 10:22 PM
    oneguyinohio
    Well your joke certainly seemed to backfire on you. With that in mind, you'll only continue to hurt if you go on the same way. If you come clean, you'll at least know that you did that. Even if it ends the relationship, and he never communicates again, at least you'll know that you are not continuing the lies, and that you cut him loose from the deception.

    I don't know what the secret lies were, but it is possible that it means more to you than it would him, or you may be right that it will make a big difference to him, but it doesn't make much sense for you to continue it with your feelings as they are.

    Your post has led me to speculate on something such as you are not female, or you are not single, or you are not the age you told him, or you've had a sex change, or the list could go on and on if I keep speculating, but I won't. I'll wait to see if you post any more information.
  • Apr 2, 2008, 11:50 PM
    Spranza
    GUYS ,….. it's a long damn story … but if you are willing to hear it , then it will be ….

    And I am here to share it with you guys …. I swear I'm writing this again …. After I was putting the last lines of my replay … it was all gone … because of a stupid touch pad … was hit by mistake to backward the page …

    Any way … I am sorry for being late …. My mistake … and sorry for not being clear …. Because I am totally miserable … and I want to talk it out ….. . but here is the story …

    This thing has been going on for a year and a half now … for begin reckless and pre-judging things and people ….. I was so stupid to listen to someone …. And help doing stupid things …. I will tell how this has happened ….

    One day …. My niece came to me telling me about some guy who has looked her down and never wanted to help her back …it was all about photo shop and forums …. She loved PS and wanted to learn it by all means …. And she is so smart ….. This guy is a tough TALENTED person on PS … and he was just showing off on people their ….. << one of them was my niece …. Moreover , he made fun of her designs and his replays were sooo tough and harsh …. As if " do you call this a design you don't know any thing about PS … go work on a painter … its better for you!''

    She told me all about this …. And she was hell mad …. And even cried …. I was sooo fouirse ….because I just hate when it gets my family … no one touches my family NO ONE!!!

    So while I was signing in with my MSN … I wanted to check my chat log !! … so I found one of them was not mine …. I opened it … and there I found it was my niece email on it … and the other one was by that guy name….. and the whole conversation was one line …. She was telling him happy holiday ….. and he didn't even replay back …
    I was like……( what the hell …. This girl never learns …. He is that bad and she still sends him greetings …!!)

    So I added his email <<< MY LIFE MISTAKE…..
    Not to hurt him or to do anything bad to him … But I was just so curies to know how does this guy's mind work!! Why does he look poeple down …. And how does he think!!??
    And he got online and we chatted ….. then he asked me "where are you from? "
    I said .. I am American …. <<< THE SECOND LIFE MISTAKE…..

    But that wasn't for him only …. I NEVER give a guy from my own country my real name, my real location , my real identity << its culture's differences !.....NVM
    Btw , it turned out that he is doing somehow the same ….

    So …. As an American … I had to fake my daily life ….. how do I spend my free time …. Where do I live … what are my studies … who is my family …. ALL FAKE! ….. I even showed him a pic of a girl << who is not me !!

    It turned out that this guy …. Started to believe me and very happy about it, then a brilliant idea came to my STUPID mind ….. I said … why not to go on …. And complete this as long as he is believing it …I will be revenging my niece ..and at the END ,…. I will just tell him that you were fooled …. You have been lied to…. I am not an American .. I thought you would be a smart a%^ to know … but you turned out to be stupid… Why to show off … while you are not worth it … << I HATE MYSLEF FOR SAYING THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So I took advantages of my fluent English << well no that fluent … but good … to fool that guy and make up events ….doesn't exist only on MOVIES !! (don't look at me like that :S)

    Still want to know what I did……………………….

    I faked my pic

    I faked group conversations …………for 6 people << ALL OF THEM WERE I AM….. and that guy!

    I pretend to go online drunk!!

    He dreams about me ….. and says to me …. You are an angel!!!<< I was soo good to him …actually that is me …. But I was blind by devil!

    I made him translate songs for me to English while I knew what they mean … because they were my with language

    I had a boyfriend ….. and I broke up with him ……

    I EVEN SUICIDE….. and made him shade tears ………<<< well that was meant to be an escape for me to just vanish and never come back ….. but I couldn't …. And I got back to him << I know it was stupid and totally wrong but I want to finish this madness …

    I talked to his friends …….. and he was like " hey this is my best friend ……BEST EVER!! "

    I talked to his sisters …… and that what kills me …… they are sooo cute and nice ….. but I just can't go back …. To day No.1 and say ….. all that were lies …. I was joking !!

    I DID THINGS YOU WILL NEVER IMAGINE!!!!!!!!! PEOPLE …….(don't trust MSN friends)

    I knew that guy ….and knew how does he think…. What does he want …. What does he need …. His way of expressing things …. I knew when he has anything in his mind … without even saying it …. And he told me that I am the only one who could understand him out of all his friends ….. he almost got 112 contacts … and he only talks to me !! we talk every night …till morning … for hours and hours …..laughing .. and having fun

    I was having fun with this s*** …. Till one day !!

    He travelled to somewhere out side our borders …. And he didn't go online for about ONE month …… I WAS WORRIED like hell ….. and even had dreams about him …. I sent him messages …. I was like crazy then I stopped for a while (WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING??!!??) you never suppose to be like that ….. he means nothing to you …. Stop worrying …. But I couldn't ….. ONLY THEN …. I realized that this guy means a lot to me …. And I begin to care about him as I care about not only a friend but a FAMILY …. And I would kill any one tries to hurt him …..

    I was so scarred about my new feelings ….. and I couldn't lie to him when I met him after that ….. then he told me " you've changed….. is there anything wrong? … you are hiding something … you know that we can share anything …. If there is anything bothers you …. Just tell me? " …. I almost died ……

    So I started to tell lies again … I didn't want him to know I am fake …… I didn't want to LOSE him …. This friend ….. is part of my life now ….. we share secrets … we solve each other problems and issues ….. we are much more than just friends …. He tells me everything …. And I do the same but some how I Americanized it a bit ….. WE ARE ONE NOW ….. he introduced me to his family T_T … I met his sisters …. I HATE MYSELF ….. now I am not lying to one person … but to the whole family …..

    LOOK AT ME ….. I can't go back now …. And I am sooooo deep in this ….. I don't want to lose him …. I became addicted to him …. I talk to him every day ….. I even mistaken his name with my family members ….. because I talk to him more than I do to them ….

    YES I faked everything ….. but I didn't fake my feelings ….. they are all true!! And I would sacrifice myself for him and give him my all ….. because he is a really true friend …. And I deserve him NOT!!


    I AM SORRY !!!!
  • Apr 3, 2008, 12:00 AM
    Spranza
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman
    Please make sense for all us poor guys who can't read minds, or broken senseless english. Have you no mercy??


    Sorry for that...

    P.S.
    Is my English that broken... :confused:... well... This broken English fooled My friend

    I wish if he were like you... and finds out that I am fake... I would be released from this sad, heart smasher story...

    By the way...
    I wrote him a poem... and its about the whole thing...
    But I decided to hand it over to him when he finds out the truth... and I will be vanished for ever
  • Apr 3, 2008, 12:32 AM
    Spranza
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by oneguyinohio
    Your post has led me to speculate on something such as you are not female, or you are not single, or you are not the age you told him, or you've had a sex change, or the list could go on and on if I keep speculating, but I won't. I'll wait to see if you post any more information.

    Yes I lied about my age...
    I told him 22 and I am 23

    But I didn't lied about my sex... he knows I am a female...
    And I am single...

    I am ready to tell you guys anything... you just ask... I feel better by telling someone what I felt about it... since I have been keeping it all inside...
    Its killing me
  • Apr 3, 2008, 12:33 AM
    ihatewestseneca
    First off, tal was being sarcastic with the "have you no mercy??" part.

    Second, how old are you?

    Third, have you ever met this guy in person? It was kind of unclear.
    How long has this been going on?

    From what I can tell... you lied to someone on the internet, someone you've never met, I'm not sure if you can have feelings for someone you've never even met... you may enjoy talking to them, but I don't think you can have deep feelings for some internet guy. After all, he may be some 40 year old lady with a sick mind.
  • Apr 3, 2008, 12:55 AM
    Spranza
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ihatewestseneca
    first off, tal was being sarcastic with the "have you no mercy??" part.

    second, how old are you?

    I am 23 but I told him 22 ><


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ihatewestseneca
    third, have you ever met this guy in person? it was kind of unclear.

    I'VE NEVER MET HIM
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ihatewestseneca
    How long has this been going on?

    It has been going for one year and a half... and still going and still lying

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ihatewestseneca
    from what i can tell... you lied to someone on the internet, someone you've never met, im not sure if you can have feelings for someone you've never even met... you may enjoy talking to them, but i dont think you can have deep feelings for some internet guy. after all, he may be some 40 year old lady with a sick mind

    I am the sick one... I just did what you've said..

    I know this guy... he is well known in the forum my niece told me about... I never registered to that forum... but as she said.. she told me he is a hell of a person... and he is not lying to me... I am sure of that... he sends me pictuers more than just once... He is real... I am fake.. ihatewestseneca

    And YES... I have feelings for him as a close friend... I swear I cry everyday I think of what I did to him... and he goes crazy if I didn't show up on MSN for a long time...

    We are REAL friends...

    I think if I met him... I might not be as close as I am now to him

    And thank you so much for trying to help me... you and the others...
    And I am sorry if you looked at me as a DEVIL person... I don't blame you at all...

    I just want him to forgive me when he knows about it...
    And I won't come back to him if he finds out all about this... I won't be able to face him... because simply it won't be the same...
  • Apr 3, 2008, 03:38 AM
    starbuck8
    QUOTE: I am the sick one...

    And thank you so much for trying to help me... you and the others...
    And I am sorry if you looked at me as a DEVIL person... I don't blame you at all... END QUOTE:

    No one thinks you're a "devil person". You did what unfortunately a lot of people do when they use the anonymity of the internet to create a false identity. That is how 12 and 13 yr old innocent little girls get trapped by 50 yr old men, and think that it's a young boy they have fallen in love with, and end up agreeing to meet with them in person, and bad things happen.

    He might not even be who YOU think he is. I'm guessing you have never spoken on the phone either? If you are so sure that you know who he is, and what he is all about, then all you are doing is hurting yourself by carrying on this game with him. That's what happens when you start one lie... it snowballs and you can't stop the snowball from rolling down the hill and taking people out in it's path!

    If you feel he is a good friend to you, come clean! Tell him that you have something to tell him that has been eating away at you. Tell him it all started as a joke, but then you started to think of him as a good friend, and by that time you had gone too far. Tell him you just couldn't bring yourself to do it, because you couldn't bear to hurt him by telling him that all this time he was talking to a made up person.

    He may tell you to go to hell... or he may not, depending on the way you tell him. But, you have to tell him. It isn't fair to either of you to keep up the charade. In fact, it's downright cruel.

    Just tell him and deal with the consequences!
  • Apr 3, 2008, 05:51 AM
    oneguyinohio
    You might not want to call it all a joke, but say that it was for your fun, and that you wanted to be annonymous on line so that you would not get into trouble with some basically unknown person on the internet. Then you can tell about you made up life, but that all of the feelings were real. If he still likes the conversation and wants to continue that, then you can... but if he decides to take a long walk, you have to respect that as well. But then you will be able to respect yourself for not continuing the lies.
  • Apr 3, 2008, 06:11 AM
    talaniman
    What started as a prank, grew to have a life of its own. That's life on the INTERNET. I doubt you have real feelings for someone you never met, but your solution is quite simple really. Leave him alone, and chalk this whole incident up to bad judgment, and learn from this experience. Just leave him alone, and don't complicate his life trying to explain, or make it up to him. Simply disappear.
  • Apr 3, 2008, 06:23 AM
    K_3
    You must have been quite good at convincing him of your lies. What makes you so sure he is telling the truth? He may be as good at is as you are.
  • Apr 3, 2008, 06:43 AM
    Breake
    *blinks* I want 10 minutes of my life back.
  • Apr 4, 2008, 09:02 PM
    Spranza
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by starbuck8
    QUOTE: In fact, it's downright cruel.

    Just tell him and deal with the consequences!

    I know I am that cruel... but I swear it wasn't meant to be like that... and I feel so bad for him and I...

    Telling him could be the right thing to do... but words are not like actions...

    The thought of telling him the truth kills me when it just crosses my mind... how about putting this in action... I can't tell him I lied to you... he might have a heart attack

    He might live with a scar the rest of his life... he appreciate friendship to madness... a friend to him is like God!.

    I deformed even his principles and figures of his life... I'll be a curse on him... IF he knew I am a lair...

    Besides... I won't be ready to absorb his possibly negative reaction or listen to his bad words... not after he becomes EVERYTHING in my life!

    He once said something to me... it was not that bad... and he never meant what I understood... but I just almost died... and he was talking to himself for a while.. because I was crying... it did hurt me like hell... and I was thinking of what he said for a week or something... shedding tears whenever I remember it...

    How about taking all his anger... I WON'T BEAR IT...

    I know its my mistake and I should pay for it... but now he is my BEST friend... and I can only see him that kind nice boy I usually talk to and open my heart for him...

    If he just yells at me... I would die...
  • Apr 4, 2008, 09:15 PM
    Spranza
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by oneguyinohio
    If he still likes the conversation and wants to continue that, then you can.... but if he decides to take a long walk, you have to respect that as well. But then you will be able to respect yourself for not continuing the lies.

    oneguyinohio thanks for your sweet words...

    If that guy knew what I did to him and if even forgave me... I WON'T be his friend any more... and will vanish!! For ever!!

    Think about it... deeply... would you be with a girl that lied to you 1 and a half year!?

    I don't think so... even if there is a strong connection between you two...

    And it will come up one day... SURE it will...
    Once you are telling the truth he will think you are not... and while you were lying.. he believed it all... it hurts !

    I can't accept his opinion about me being a lair and a friend... it just can't be together!
  • Apr 4, 2008, 09:36 PM
    Spranza
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman
    What started as a prank, grew to have a life of its own. Thats life on the INTERNET. I doubt you have real feelings for someone you never met

    Well... this is out of question... YES I have feelings for him as a true devoted friend... or else I won't be in this mess... I would just leave it as you just said... and never think about it again...

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman
    Just leave him alone, and don't complicate his life trying to explain, or make it up to him. Simply disappear.


    Simply disappear... so easy to say..!

    I have spent a life time with my friend... its just so hard to do that... though I believe it's the right thing to do... and I tried it once... I was like one month offline... and I was seeing him going online and offline... I read all his offline messages... and his dreams about me... he was searching for me everywhere... he even watched the news... hoping to know anything about me... or any recently accidents at college...

    He googled my name... trying to find anything about me...

    I messed with his life... and he needed me to be his friend... and to stay next to him when he needs me...

    If I just disappeared he will have hope everyday that I might come back!
    I will be placing two wounds rather than one... lies+ forsaking!

    When I disappeared... I saw how was he acting, I knew what I meant to him...

    I knew that he wanted me back by all means!.
    And then I decided to go back... and never let him down... if he wants to end up this... then its his turn to do so...

    At least... it will not end up by my own bloody hands!
  • Apr 4, 2008, 09:48 PM
    Spranza
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by K_3
    What makes you so sure he is telling the truth? He may be as good at is as you are.


    PEOPLE... you are missing the real lair here... ITS ME...


    I know him... I talked to his sisters... his friends... he is not lying... if I have doubts that he is lying... then I won't waste my time everyday thinking of him... and crying...


    Any way... thanks K_3... I wish if he is a liar... that will be a relief
  • Apr 4, 2008, 09:55 PM
    Spranza
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Breake
    *blinks* I want 10 minutes of my life back.


    I AM SO SORRY BREAK!! I KNOW I DON'T DESERVE THE AIR I BREATH!!


    But I have a believe...

    I have a believe that I was sent to him by God... I am there in his email for a purpose... and its HOLLY... no one knows it but God!.

    But I believe its for the good of both of us !
  • Apr 4, 2008, 09:55 PM
    starbuck8
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Spranza
    I know I am that cruel .... but I swear it wasn't meant to be like that ... and I feel so bad for him and I .......

    Telling him could be the right thing to do .... but words are not like actions .....

    the thought of telling him the truth kills me when it just crosses my mind .... how about putting this in action .... I can't tell him I lied to you .... he might have a heart attack

    he might live with a scar the rest of his life ...... he appreciate friendship to madness ... a friend to him is like God!!! .....

    I deformed even his principles and figures of his life ..... I'll be a curse on him ... IF he knew I am a lair ...

    Besides ..... I won't be ready to absorb his possibly negative reaction or listen to his bad words.... not after he becomes EVERYTHING in my life !!

    He once said something to me .... it was not that bad .... and he never meant what I understood .....but I just almost died .... and he was talking to himself for a while .. because I was crying .... it did hurt me like hell... and I was thinking of what he said for a week or something .... shedding tears whenever I remember it ....

    How about taking all his anger .... I WON"T BEAR IT .....

    I know its my mistake and I should pay for it .... but now he is my BEST friend .... and I can only see him that kind nice boy I usually talk to and open my heart for him ....

    if he just yells at me .... I would die ...

    I don't think you are so worried about him here! You sound more concerned with yourself, and how YOU would feel. This is a virtual internet friendship! :rolleyes:

    Read all of your "I's"
    -- 'I' can't tell him 'I' lied (he may have a heart attack?)
    -- 'I' deformed his principles
    -- 'I'll' be a curse on him
    -- 'I' am a liar
    -- 'I' just almost died
    -- 'I' was crying --hurt ME like hell
    -- 'I won't bear it
    -- 'I' should pay for it
    -- 'I' would die
    -- 'I won't be able to absorb
    -- 'I' usually talk to

    Now read the things you said about "him"
    -- 'He' might live with a scar for the rest of his life
    -- 'He' might have a heart attack
    -- 'Friendship to him is like God??
    -- 'EVERYTHING' in my life
    -- 'MY' best friend (if he yells at ME, I would die)

    Do you REALLY think that he thinks the world revolves around you? He would have a heart attack if he found out? Comparing your friendship to that of God?

    Those are all pretty arrogant statements. Do you really think you have that much power over someone you've met on the internet? I really doubt that HIS world revolves around YOU.

    I think you need to spend more time off your computer, and talking to "real" people that you can see and touch... not on a webcam!

    Go out and meet yourself some real flesh and blood people, and stop being so loyal to the virtual guy!

    You're living in the virtual dream world!
  • Apr 4, 2008, 10:22 PM
    Spranza
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by starbuck8
    Do you REALLY think that he thinks the world revolves around you? He would have a heart attack if he found out? Comparing your friendship to that of God??

    Those are all pretty arrogant statements. Do you really think you have that much power over someone you've met on the internet? I really doubt that HIS world revolves around YOU.

    Yeah.. you are right... I concern about myself more... well... it was I who lied at the first place... it was I who made up the whole stupid #$%^ story!.

    and at the end... it should be "I" who must regret it...

    and I don't think that his world revolves around me... but I talked to that guy... and I know how much I mean to him... he got over than 100 contacts on his email... I SAW IT BY MY OWN EYES!. and he goes online just to talk to me...

    and he keeps telling me that I am his BEST friend and the only one who can understand him better... he told me about his friends and how they betrayed him... and how he felt about it... it was awful

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by starbuck8
    You're living in the virtual dream world!

    This virtual world has more meaning than the real one... for me
    and lots of people get to know each other by this virtual world... and some even got married!! I heard lots and lots of stories...

    and mine became a tragic one among them...

    even if its virtual... as long as it can affect your life and your feelings then its as real as the real world!

    I shouldn't lie to someone!. Its feelings... they are real!

    I JUST FEEL SO BAD!.

    P.S
    We didn't chat by cam... nor by phone... ONLY MSN...
  • Apr 4, 2008, 10:38 PM
    talaniman
    You are way to emotionally, and physically, invested into this fantasy world, to make any realistic decisions. For your sake turn off the computer, and seek a real person, preferably a professional to talk to, and get back to the real world of real people. Please, I beg you.
  • Apr 4, 2008, 10:40 PM
    starbuck8
    I believe you that you feel bad. But bad enough to tell him the truth? If you want to keep on lying to him, that is your own choice! Is it going to make you feel better? Probably not. Are you missing out on a 'normal' relationship? Probably so. Will your virtual friendship last long? Probably not. Are you living a fantasy? Probably so.

    Give the magic 8 ball a shake and see what it has to say.
  • Apr 5, 2008, 01:14 AM
    ampersandra
    Tell him the truth. This is YOUR responsibility. You want to fix things and the way to do it is to tell the truth. What else can you really do? If you can offer an alternative, tell me.

    However, just because you are telling the truth does not mean he will forgive you. YOUR responsibility is YOURS. The result is HIS choice, whether you like it or not. You'll have to accept it. At least you will know that you actually DID something right, finally.
  • Apr 5, 2008, 05:43 AM
    K_3
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman
    You are way to emotionally, and physically, invested into this fantasy world, to make any realistic decisions. For your sake turn off the computer, and seek a real person, preferably a professional to talk to, and get back to the real world of real people. Please, I beg you.

    Very well put talaniman
  • Apr 5, 2008, 06:07 AM
    K_3
    When you say you "talk" to these friends and relatives of this guy, is it "talking" with your voice or is it emailing?
    Yes, there are friends who marry someone they met on the net, some success stories. There are many many stories of scams, lies, deceit. I am not saying this is true with him. If you were to ask him he would probably say you were honest.
    I agree that you are far too involved with a fantasy world. Talking on the net, meeting people on line is not a bad thing, as long as you keep it in perspective. Until you see someone face to face, spend some time with that person, observe their actions and reactions, you do not know that person. In an online relationship you only know what that person wants you to know. I knew a guy that pretended to be a woman.

    Your emotions are way out there on this. You need to tell him the truth and let this be a lesson to you. Lies will always come back and bite you in the end. He may be upset, but who knows he may understand. He may have several emails, several "best friends" that he has given his password to in order to prove his honesty. If not, life is about forgiving, his reaction will tell you something about him.

    You really need to get a grip on real life. Please go find a friend or family member and give them a hug, you need a real life reality check.
  • Apr 5, 2008, 06:55 AM
    Spranza
    Ok guys...

    So.. I assume it's the last and the only sulotion


    ...... THE TRUTH.....


    Even if that means I will lose him forever...

    Truth means end of this wonderful freindship... it means Goodbye forever...

    Its so hard to lose a friend like him... he is sooo REAR! And unique...

    if you were in my shoes you will know how hard it will be to say the words "I lied to you!"

    I just wanted to be next to him... and give him any kind of help he needs... I would do anything he wants... He is my BEST friend EVER!!

    But doing this will be hard for both of us...
    He will be shoked and hurt... and I will be left alone !

    But it's the right thing to do... Since I can't bear it any more... he is a great person! And I can't do this to him... I cry whenever he crosses my mind... because I feel sorry.. and I can't say I am so sorry...


    BUT I CAN'T DO IT... its just... omg

    Ok... let me at least make it up to him... I want to do something good to him... so when he know about it he will say.. I didn't waste my time... at least I got that thing out of the whole crap!

    But I don't know how to make it up to him..!
  • Apr 5, 2008, 07:11 AM
    K_3
    How to make it up to him... hmmmm. Be honest with him today and forever more. Be honest with yourself, you want to believe this is all about him going to miss you. I believe it is more about you missing him. That is the truth. He may feel hurt at first, but what will he really be missing, a big lie.
    You are not only living in a fantasy world on the net, you are also living in your mind. You are guessing he is going to say or do this or that, it is all thoughts in your mind. The more you dwell on it and think, the more creative and dramatic you get. It is not REAL. You have no idea how he is going to react, even when he tells you how he feels, if you do not see him, will you really know how he reacted or felt?
  • Apr 5, 2008, 07:23 AM
    Spranza
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by K_3
    When you say you "talk" to these friends and relatives of this guy, is it "talking" with your voice or is it emailing?

    You really need to get a grip on real life. Please go find a friend or family member and give them a hug, you need a real life reality check.

    I only chatted with them... MSN... not on phone...

    And I want to clear something out... I care about that friend... I love him as a close friend ... its not like what you think... its pure friendship...


    What's with the real world idea... I see internet world is as real as the real world... its just so hard to separate them since most of my friends are online contacts!
  • Apr 5, 2008, 07:34 AM
    K_3
    I did not think anything other than him being a friend. I am sorry if I implied differently.
    I am just worried about you. It is OK to have online friends. It is not healthy to have more online friends than friends you see and visit and touch each day. It is too easy to loose contact with reality. I am just concerned about you, that is all.
  • Apr 5, 2008, 07:41 AM
    Spranza
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by K_3
    How to make it up to him........hmmmm. Be honest with him today and forever more. Be honest with yourself, you want to believe this is all about him going to miss you. I believe it is more about you missing him. That is the truth. He may feel hurt at first, but what will he really be missing, a big lie.


    Its not a big lie!. My feelings are all real... everything I said about my personality is real... I lied only about the events around me... my environment..!

    What you said is sooo right...
    Its more about me going to miss him!. yeah.. I believe this is so true...

    I am so deep in this now... what should I do?

    How about disappearing... I don't want to hurt him!.
    But I will go through this gradually...
    I won't go online everyday... I'll make it once a week... and so on... till I completely gone
  • Apr 5, 2008, 07:49 AM
    BMI
    Wow, what an unusual way of writing.

    From what I understand, you lied to a guy on the internet about how you look, how then did you meet his sisters??

    This story is really unusual and does not make a heck of a lot of sense to me. Provided this story is factual then view it from this angle, IF he lovesyou or confides in you and has come to develop some deep mystical bond between you (fantasy) what should it matter what you look like? Isn't the inner you more important to this wonderful human being you've described. Someone so great cannot possibly be superficial to shun you because you are a little lacking in self-confidence can he?

    Also, what's with all the deserving to die talk? Geez, I've done worse things on a bus than this. I'm not making light of it but you are going way overboard with how serious this transgression really is.

    I'm still not convinced this story is actually true, I'll wait for your answer about the sisters.
  • Apr 5, 2008, 07:49 AM
    Spranza
    K_3... you are really nice...

    Thanks for your concerns and your help... they mean a lot to me...

    I am just confused!. and I need to talk it all out...

    Thax for listening to me as well
  • Apr 5, 2008, 07:55 AM
    BMI
    Oh, I didn't even draw attention to the fact he is an internet buddy which you have never met!! Tell him the truth or delete him if you cannot handle telling him. Also, get off these social network sites for your own sanity, you don't seem like a person that is well suited for these things. If your so drawn to the computer in your spare time than you'd be wise to start playing internet hearts (I'm goooooood) or reversi (I can't be beat on a consistent basis), it'd be a lot more healthy for you.
  • Apr 5, 2008, 08:09 AM
    Spranza
    BMI...

    What is so weird about my writing... I didn't thought it's that unclear... please tell me if there is anything wrong with it... so I can improve it...

    Well,
    This story is soooo real... and if you didn't believe it, it will be my pleasure to send you all the chat logs for both of us.. I keep them...

    I've post the whole thing... I lied to someone.. I gave him a different identity... not the real me... to take revenge of something he did to my niece...

    So when I knew that guy better... I started to change my mind about him being selfish and cruel... but it was too late for me to say I was fake... because we became close friends... and I couldn't tell him I lied...

    About his sisters...
    He liked me as a good friend... and was so proud of me... and he tells his sisters about me... so one day.. he just got me in online group conversation... with his two sisters... I was shocked!. because I knew that he is now trusted me far more than I thought!

    And now his sisters are chatting with me... and becoming good friends to me as well... and that what makes it worse than it was already...

    Instead of lying to one person... now I am lying to the whole family!

    I hope you got it... sorry for my English !
  • Apr 5, 2008, 08:20 AM
    BMI
    Oh dear you need not apologize for your writing. I said it was unusual in that the way you break up sentences is something I have not seen before.

    As for saying I may not be true, I said that because your story reads that you have never met him yet you met his sisters, now that you have clarified it makes more sense.

    All the rest I stand behind. This is not healthy for you at all, it is an obsession over a person in whom you have never even met. You would do well to distance yourself from the online world, its like thunderdome, no rules, everything is different and nobody is their REAL self.

    Wonderful article about Facebook personalities I happened upon weeks ago. Although the appearance of the individual and information is correct, the rest is what one WANTS to project. No space for writing your faults and real persona, only space for what you do well or want people to think you do well.

    Get away from this situation please.
  • Apr 5, 2008, 08:22 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    instead of lying to one person... now I am lying to the whole family!
    Either come clean, and be honest, or leave these folks alone. It helps nothing to lie, and then continue to lie does it? Your only confused because you know your actions have consequence. Consequences your unwilling to pay, so either do the right thing, and pay the consequences, or stop giving everyone the impression you're a caring person. Or are you trolling us for attention? This is not a hard problem to solve.

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