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Originally Posted by twinkiedooter

There is also the zoning laws to consider in this type of situation. If there is one adult and 5 kids up in that attic then quite possibly the homeowner has severely overreached the limit of people in the occupancy of this attic. They need to get different housing to properly house all 5 kids. There are quite a lot of house fires in the winter and I'm sure that the attic is not properly heated so the potential of a housefire is very, very real in a situation like that. Not having any outside staircase is illegal. Yes, I know that the homeowner may want to help out, etc, etc, but in reality he's the one who is breaking the law having the mother and the 5 kids live illegally in the attic - even if it is only to sleep. That is worse than atrocious living accommodations for 5 kids.

I don't condem you for calling up and inquiring. You may want to follow up with the zoning dept and see just how many people would be allowed to live in that attic - probably not as many as are living there now.

If social services can find alternate housing for this family, they should do this immediately. It may just be the difference in surviving a house fire and perishing. I was in a house fire and I was on the ground floor. Almost didn't make it and suffered severe smoke inhalation damage so you can imagine how I personally feel about this subject. Unless you have been there you have absolutely no idea. I still suffer some 30+ years now from the smoke damage done to my lungs. Keep that in mind when you contact the zoning dept as you just may save those children's lives in the end.

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Twinkie, I was too caught up earlier to properly reply. I am sorry that this happened to you and it is a shame that you still suffer ill effects from that fire. I am very happy that you made it out though. Best to you and I hope you are feeling well. I imagine what meds you are on and possibly an oxygen tank of some sort. I sure hope not but I'm glad you did survive.

Geeeees! I am sorry about the ENTIRE "Quote". I thought I only hi-lighted and quoted from the point where you wrote, "I was in a house fire... etc." Sorry about the length of this.

There are discussion areas on this site. Down near the bottom of the Forum list. If you want to start a discussion there, let me know the link to it and I will move the last part of these posts into it.

Why can't I predict lotto numbers? Scott Gem, I took a nap earlier and crazy as this sounds, I don't know why... I dreamt that you replied to me and I told you that you were a GEM. Crazy.

Thank you very much for your info. About the discussion boards. I need to read and learn more about the site obviously.
I will take advantage of that on another day when I'm strong enough to get beat up. But it does sound like it would be a very interesting discussion. Thank you very much again and I will let you know. (somehow?) Through a private email?? Is that OK? Or no

In reply to your question to me if I take any meds or am I on oxygen, the answer is NO. No meds and no oxygen. I just do without. I do get very bad chest colds now and then and wheeze like crazy when coughing but I don't get too many of them to warrant seeing a doctor. I'm an anti-doctor person and don't go unless I'm 99% dead and then I have to be dragged kicking and screaming.

When I read the circumstances of the children and mom in that attic I was worse than upset as I know they would not survive any sort of fire being that high up in the building as the smoke would go straight up and not down. You did not mention just how many people were in this attic originally and I was horrified to know the number!

I am sorry about the fact that this little family could be literally homeless, but I don't know which is worse, to be homeless or dead. I've been homeless myself for a little over a year approx 10 years ago and know first hand it is not easy but it is survivable. Don't know about dead yet, but when that happens I'll be sure to come back here and tell you all about it (somehow).

I figured that the Zoning Department would be on the job in a heartbeat about this. They usually are in a situation like this. They will be back with a warrant probably Monday morning with bells on.

The landlord does not care about the safety of anyone but about the smell of her money. I hope they "shut" her down and give her a swell fine as well. That's just my opinion on this matter.

I am also looking forward to taking this discussion to a different place anytime you feel like moving this Scott. Lots to talk about.

P.S. I have a band of Raccoons I feed year round - about 12 in all. I currently have 3 fur balls curled up under my raised shed sleeping blissfully. There is about a foot of snow on the ground here in Ohio and the tracks in the snow led under the shed but no tracks away. Took a peek this morning as I was curious if they were indeed there. Yep.

Is this the same situation, are these the same people involved in your IRS concern? https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/taxes/...ls-299431.html

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