Has God created beings on other planets besides Earth? And if so, are there also sinners in those worlds?
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Has God created beings on other planets besides Earth? And if so, are there also sinners in those worlds?
I am not sure why this is posted under Christianity, since Christianity deals with earth and the relationship of people on this planet and their relationship to Christ.
The bible does not address any other planet except for the new earth to be created after this planet is destroyed.
so from a christian, does not matter, if there is, there is, if not, nope.
And we can not determine if there are sinners or not, if Adam had not sinned there would not have been sin on this planet.
I will attempt to enlighten you as to the reason I posted this question here. The reason I posted here was because I was thinking that Christians probably would be the most knowledgeable about the subject. However, if I was wrong and, in your opinion, I shouldn't have posted here, please forgive me. Now if you would be so kind as to point this poor ignorant soul in the right direction to a forum where this question would be more appropriate, I would be most grateful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
In my opinion, it is a perfectly relevant question to Christianity.
Not relevant to you eternal salvation, but relevant for curiosity's sake none-the-less.
Sin is inherent to humans. So when you are talking about other "beings" are you referring to humans or beings in a general sense?
With the information that we have from the Bible, your question cannot be answered with any degree of certainty. We can surmise though. In my opinion, the universe is a pretty big place for just one lonely planet. I personally believe that there are other planets with humans doing pretty much the same things that we are; trying to become more like God, our Heavenly Father. I don't dwell on it though. I try not to make guesses as to the nature of God's plan. Fascinating to think about though.
[QUOTE=Auttajasi]In my opinion, it is a perfectly relevant question to Christianity.
Not relevant to you eternal salvation, but relevant for curiosity's sake none-the-less.
Sin is inherent to humans. So when you are talking about other "beings" are you referring to humans or beings in a general sense?
First let me thank you for not making me feel like my question was out of place here, as Chuck did. I would imagine that God could create beings other than human, maybe in His likeness, or maybe not. I would like other Christians views on the subject.
No problem. Care to enlighten me with what you believe regarding your posted question?
Only god is without sin. So, if there were other beings, they would be sinners too, because only god has the perfection of no sin, so if there were other intelligent species somewhere, I hope they've found god too, for their own sake.
Funnily enough, I used to toy with the idea of god being an alien, like two years ago, but that's a silly theory, because he created us in his own image.
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Originally Posted by cal823
The angels were created sinless and those who have remained faithful to God, two-thirds of them, remain sinless.
Also, if there are other material intelligent creatures who were created sinless as mankind was, it doesn't necessarily follow that they have fallen into sin via disobedience as we have. In fact, wouldn't it be ironic if we were the only ones who have?
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Originally Posted by Starman
Haha wed be literally one of the most evil races in existence then
I think the Creator has populated many worlds with life, but I doubt if they are christians.Quote:
Originally Posted by rr man
Why wouldn't they be? Wouldn't god want everyone to be with him? He cares about everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Well, I guess not christians, because christ was on earth...
It would be a very humbling experience to find out that we are since we tend to consider ourselves the epitome of God's material creation. In fact, our disobedience might seem incomprehensible from their standpoint--totally illogical perhaps and instead of us having to teach them they might have a great deal to teach us in terms of being obedient to our heavenly Father.Quote:
Originally Posted by cal823
If they are imperfect like us, they mite even declare a crusade for all we know
Let's say that there are other human populated planets out there. Let's say, for argument's sake, that they are God's children, and Jesus is their Savior (he died for everyone's sins right?). If this is true, then we may very well be the most evil of all of God's children because WE crucified Jesus Christ. What if it was predestined that Jesus was born on THIS earth so he WOULD be crucified, thus dying for our sins and completing his atonement?
Is it possible that Jesus was referring to these other people in John 10:16?
"And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd."
Or is He just referring to other people on OUR planet?
Interesting! Maybe there are other people out there, which we will one day meet in gods place
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Originally Posted by cal823
Declaration is one thing. Being able to carry it out is another. God doesn't take kindlly to interference in his plans for our Earth and mankind. The disobedient angels who are far more powerful than any material alien tried during Noah's day and were soundly defeated.
Satan and the Fallen Angels Frames
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In Genesis, the sixth chapter, we read of the conditions of that time. "And it came to pass, when men (humans) began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, that the Sons of God (angels--Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7. Note: they are different from the men of verses 1 and 2) saw the daughters of men, that they were fair, and they took them wives of all which they chose." (Genesis 6:1,2) Here we learn that during the time from the expulsion of Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden, until Noah's flood, some of the angels materialized fleshly human bodies and became fully involved with mankind. They became enticed with sin, and sinful desires.
"There were giants (Hebrew: Nephilim) in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the Sons of God (angels) came unto the daughters of men (humans) and they bare children to them (a hybrid, mutant race, part human, part angelic) the mutant offspring were giants, physically and mentally superior to humans, yet they were brutish, sensual, violent and immoral, and they were all males. It is likely that the various mythological figures of some ancient cultures are distorted stories of these very Nephilim, and the condition of society prior to the great deluge,which destroyed them all.
They did? Can u tell me where in the bible this is?
There are several ways to understand the scripture referring to other sheep that are to be brought into the same fold. One is that it referred to the Gentiles which were to be brought into the Christian fold along with the children of Israel and that this unification began with Peter's preaching to the Roman centurion Cornelius.
Another interpretation is that this other sheep are those who have a different reward from the heavenly one. They are said to be the ones who will dwell on a paradise Earth instead of living forever in heaven.
Then there is the interpretation above which seems to indicate applicability to creatures and humans of other worlds.
One very important thing to keep in mind is that Jesus' Ransom Sacrifice was specifically given for Adam's descendants. Nowhere is provision made for his sacrifice to be extended to intelligent aliens or even humans who might live on other worlds since they are not of Adamic stock and Jesus' sacrifice is specifically said to apply only to those who inherited Adam's sinful nature.
In Adam All Died, In Christ Shall All Be Made Alive
"Through one man [Adam] sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned." (Romans 5:12)
This is not to say that those who might sin on such hypothetical world have no way out if they have sinned. This is only to say that if they have sinned then another sacrifice specific to them has to be provided.
What the Bible account describes below is the attempt by Satan and other rebel angels to genetically contaminate mankind via interbreeding. In that way they felt that the chance for the Christ to be born would be made more difficult. The giants mentioned were the halfbreeds. Half angel half human offspring of this unnatural union.Quote:
Originally Posted by cal823
Genesis 6: 1-8 Original KJV:
1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the LORD said, My Spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
So I take it that you believe there are christians out there?
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