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  • Apr 30, 2007, 03:28 PM
    kikkoman650
    Can you get aids from dogs bite or saliva?
    Can you get aids from dogs bite or saliva?
  • Apr 30, 2007, 04:18 PM
    RubyPitbull
    No.
  • Apr 30, 2007, 04:51 PM
    J_9
    Nope.
  • Apr 30, 2007, 06:12 PM
    Fr_Chuck
    Can I question the no's??

    What if two people were standing side by side, the dog bites the first person with aids, and then bites another person seconds latter,
    Could they not get aids from that?
  • Apr 30, 2007, 07:45 PM
    kepi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
    Can I question the no's ???

    What if two people were standing side by side, the dog bites the first person with aids, and then bites another person seconds latter,
    could they not get aids from that ??

    They could if the blood of person A got into the body of Person B

    :D
  • Apr 30, 2007, 07:48 PM
    Fr_Chuck
    Yes I was not saying they could, I really did not know, if something in the dog mouth would kill the germs ( or what ever they are)
    We were warned before about some insect bites and the such before.

    But then following this same thought? Seem related, can the dog itself get aids from the bite,
  • Apr 30, 2007, 09:24 PM
    kepi
    Well, you said "seconds later" so I don't think the HIV would die that quickly, and as far as I know there is nothing that kills HIV viruses in a dog's saliva.
  • May 1, 2007, 12:52 PM
    RubyPitbull
    Just as an FYI, AIDS results when a person is infected with HIV. HIV stands for Human Immunodeficiency Virus. Any animal other than a human being cannot have this virus. Cats carry Feline Immunodeficiency (FIV) virus. Other primates carry Simian Immunodeficiency virus (SIV). They are all different viruses but the effects are just as devasting to all. As far as I know there are not any documented cases of CIV (Canine). That doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    Fr Chuck, according to the CDC what you are suggesting is not possible. I don't know if they say it to keep people from panicking. Although, I would suspect it is a major long shot for a human to develop HIV as a result of a dog that has just bitten a person who is infected with HIV. That dog would have to continue in attack mode and not swallow after biting one person. Dogs clamp down when they bite. It is very difficult to achieve continuous biting without closing the mouth, licking it's teeth, and swallowing between attacks on "enemies". Once a dog swallows a couple of times, the blood of the first person would more than likely be removed from the canine teeth. The canine teeth are the ones responsible for puncture wounds.

    Unfortunately, I am not aware of any case studies. I can only imagine what kind of odds would be involved here. I guess in the end, we can conclude, however remote it may be, anything is possible.
  • May 1, 2007, 01:02 PM
    shygrneyzs
    As an HIV/AIDS Instructor for the American Red Cross - the answer is no - a person cannot contract AIDS from a dog bite.
  • May 1, 2007, 07:09 PM
    kepi
    I agree with all of you, but I don't think you read Fr_Chuck's question closely- he asked whether a dog could serve as a transport- if a dog bites Person A (infected) and then, two seconds later, it bites person B (not infected) I think the answer would be yes because the dog could potentially force transmission of the infected blood.
  • May 1, 2007, 07:22 PM
    Fr_Chuck
    Yes, I really have no idea, but my question seemed a follow-up of the original, so I did not move it to a new question.

    I have been through 100's of hours of AIDs training with the government, I was Officer in Charge of a AID's ward ( cell block) in a state prison system, ** as for as inmates go, they were a great bunch of guys.
    We had safely procedures for everything we did from hair cuts, to contact with any general population and visits. So many of the safety precautions went against most of the actual training we got. But dog bite was not something we worried about ( we had to worry about inmates scratching, biting and bleeding from their own injuries and the such.

    But to be honest I don't know enough about the subject ( like most of America) and often most likely allow gossip or fear cloud my own judgement
  • May 1, 2007, 08:56 PM
    kepi
    I too have spent many hours on the Subject of AIDS and its transmission and it has never come up but I will definitelyu bring it up this fall at my "refresh" training:D
  • May 2, 2007, 06:27 AM
    RubyPitbull
    Well, Kepi, you will have to let us know the answer you receive on that question. I can only guess that the standard answer will be NO.

    By the way, look closely at my answer. I did answer Fr Chuck's question in a rather roundabout way.;)
  • May 2, 2007, 03:20 PM
    kepi
    LOL- I didn't look at it closely enough...

    I think chances of it happening are like, MINIMAL (0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000
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    000000000000000000000000000012%)

    When I find out I'll let you know.

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