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  • Nov 1, 2025, 05:14 AM
    tomder55
    DSA a real threat that cannot be ignored
    Tuesday NYC will elect a mayor who is a proud member of the so called 'Democratic Socialists of America' (aka commies ) . Socialists have come a long way in the US since Eugene Debs created the American Socialists Party . And their emergence has been relatively recent .
    Bolshevik Bernie Sanders nearly won the Dem primary for President in 2016. All Out Crazy emerged as a socialist rock star in 2018 . Some small to mid-sized cities in blue states have elected mayors here and there since the 1960s
    But they have never had in the past the power to shape American politics as they have today.

    And it is true that NYC has tinkered with socialist mayors in the past (Dinky Dinkens and Sandinista Bill DeBlasio)and their failed terms . Now they intend to put Commie Mamdami in Gracie Mansion.

    The DSA was formed in 1982 . Back then the Democratic part of their name was important to them. It's founder Michael Harrington was in fact anti-communist . He said "I am anti-communist on principle... because I am pro-freedom".

    He believed that the party should go as left as possible but remain under the wings of the Democratic Party .

    But today's members don't believe in that constraint .They admire the authoritarian socialists who rig elections.
    Perma | x.com

    Maurice Isserman was a member until the DSA threw in their lost with the antisemitic block that supports Hamas.

    Quote:

    Unlike my generation, for whom the overriding issue of the late 1960s was opposition to the war in Vietnam, most of DSA’s new members were attracted to the organization by its proposals for substantial, vital, and above all realizable domestic reforms (Medicare for All, the Green New Deal, student debt relief, tenants’ rights, etc). As a result, between 2016 and 2020 DSA’s membership expanded from 6,000 to 90,000-plus, while dropping the average age of members from 60-something to 20-something. Scores of new chapters opened up, including many located in cities and states that haven’t seen an active socialist presence since the era of Eugene Debs, if ever. And those young, energetic recruits proved remarkably politically savvy and successful in the field of electoral politics, not only elevating four members to Congress, but also sending nearly 200 others to state legislatures, city councils, and other offices, almost always as Democrats.
    All well and good—except for the return of the entryists. Suddenly, in the eyes of revolutionary purists in a host of small competing sects, DSA was no longer to be sneered at as just a reformist swamp. “Why rob banks?” career criminal Willie Sutton was once allegedly asked by a reporter. “Because that’s where the money is,” he replied. The exchange is apocryphal, but substitute warm bodies for cold cash, and it offers a concise explanation for DSA’s sudden attractiveness to sectarian strategists. Unknown numbers—hundreds, perhaps more—started joining in 2016, some of them former members of defunct Marxist-Leninist groups, others (in violation of DSA bylaws) still belonging to and carrying out the agendas of such groups. They proceeded to quarrel and compete among themselves, splitting and recombining under various banners like “Red Star,” “Marxist Unity Group,” and even the “Communist Caucus.” But they remained united in one overarching shared aim—to take a well-meaning, not particularly well-organized, and essentially social democratic organization still committed in practice to the original DSA vision of creating “the left wing of the possible,” and reinvent it as the mass vanguard party of the proletariat that somehow they had never been able to pull off while operating under their own banners of deepest red.
    Why I Just Quit DSA | The Nation

    Mancommie did is not a Democrat. He and his ilk infiltrated and succeeded in making it effectively the communist Party of NY. They are gaining power nationwide . The one defining thing about them is that no matter how much they muck things up. They don't give up power easily .
  • Nov 1, 2025, 07:39 AM
    jlisenbe
    The utter disregard of the wonderful value of liberty is behind all of this. We have enjoyed it for so long that we now pay no attention to it and have no awareness of the need to defend it.
  • Nov 1, 2025, 12:48 PM
    tomder55
    The other defining thing to realize is that their utopian dreams can only be realized at the national level. States have fancifully tried to institute things like universal health care (Massachusetts Connecticut Vermont California Colorado) and ultimately abandoned the effort

    Mancommie wants all the city freebees paid for by the state . Guv Hochel is pushing back .

    Why ? Because states are limited to spending only revenue they collect . Nearly every state had balance budget laws . Ultimately when states overspend they put a hand out to Washington .They can't print their own monopoly bucks

    Only the national government has the power to spend and charge it to future generations .

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