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  • Apr 8, 2023, 12:14 PM
    tomder55
    When is the storming of a Capitol building acceptable ?
    When it happens in Nashville Tennessee .

    Gun control activists storm Tennessee State Capitol as fears of a left-wing uprising loom | Daily Mail Online
    Prior to forcing themselves into the building, hundreds were seen gathering outside airing chants of 'Save our children!' - phrase that reportedly echoed through the hallways between the state Senate and House chambers this afternoon.
    Some remained peaceful as they filed into the Senate building - while others yelled at officials trying to make their way into areas protected by police.

    This is what Kam the Sham said about the incident .

    “A Democracy allows for places where the People’s voice will be heard and honored…”
  • Apr 8, 2023, 01:53 PM
    jlisenbe
    The whole thing just drips with hypocrisy. The white legislator was not voted out because of her own testimony that she did not engage in the worst part of the demonstration. She then, of course, after protesting her own innocence, accused the TN legislature of racism for voting out the two black men but not her.
  • Apr 8, 2023, 01:55 PM
    Wondergirl
    That's not how the people's voices are to be heard in a democracy. As Mrs. Harris said, "A Democracy allows for places where the People’s voice will be heard and honored…”
  • Apr 8, 2023, 02:25 PM
    tomder55
    She implied that the attack on the state capitol was acceptable if the cause was right .
  • Apr 8, 2023, 03:37 PM
    tomder55
    No longer called an insurrection

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FtITyTPa...jpg&name=small
  • Apr 8, 2023, 04:59 PM
    Wondergirl
    Where was the pee and poop smeared on the floors and walls? The broken windows? The weapons? The costumes and makeup? Offices trashed and looted? Members of Congress ushered to safety?
  • Apr 8, 2023, 06:25 PM
    jlisenbe
    Where were the politicians actually involved and leading the whole thing??? Oops. I’m sorry. They actually did have that element in Tennessee with the three dems.
  • Apr 8, 2023, 06:39 PM
    Wondergirl
    And Trump in Washington. I think it was in 2021. January? Maybe on the 6th? You know, those tourists taking pictures.
  • Apr 8, 2023, 06:46 PM
    jlisenbe
    Trump was not at all involved in that demonstration.
  • Apr 8, 2023, 06:50 PM
    Wondergirl
    Only as the instigator. He certainly wouldn't want to be with that mob and get his outfit soiled or his shoes coated with poop or his hair mussed.
  • Apr 8, 2023, 06:58 PM
    tomder55
    Tennessee state law enforcement had no idea the state capitol would be stormed .Still they did their jobs and prevented a more serious incident from happening .

    Maybe if the Feds did their job instead of planning more ways to get Trump, the US Capitol could've been defended better
    Maybe US Capitol police should not have had stand down orders from Madam Mimi and from the DC Mayor. Maybe Trump's offer to have the National Guard on duty at the Capitol should've been accepted .

    What happened in Nashville was; without warning , a mob bum rushed the doors of the Capitol. They were unsuccessful . January 6 everyone knew of the possibility of a riot for more than a month . The unanswered question is why wasn't the Capitol protected given the importance of the event being held there that day ?????
  • Apr 8, 2023, 07:37 PM
    Wondergirl
    Two totally different situations.
  • Apr 8, 2023, 07:45 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Maybe Trump's offer to have the National Guard on duty at the Capitol should've been accepted .
    Awfully strange behavior from the guy who supposedly was the "instigator" of the disturbance.

    Yes, it was two totally different situations. 1/6 was strictly civilians. The Tennessee demonstration was led and REALLY instigated by liberal dem pols, so your observation is quite correct, though perhaps not in the way you intended.

    Hope all you have a wonderful Easter tomorrow and worship the risen Christ.
  • Apr 10, 2023, 04:18 AM
    tomder55
    nothing says 'democratic process' like drowning out debate in a state house with a bull horn. When you don't have the votes shout loud enough to disrupt normal legislative procedures.
    Kam the Sham flew to Nashville to praise such disruption of the legislative process . Did she take the time to meet with the victim's families of the shooting ? Nah But last year she was in Buffalo to comfort the victims of a similar attack

    In Nashville you see .It is not that a majority is denying the legislative process from taking place that they object to because that is not what's happening .. They object that the majority is preventing the outcome they desire.

    Politicians are tearing down the guardrails because they're convinced they're always right (nypost.com)
  • Apr 10, 2023, 10:26 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Expelled Tennessee Democrat blames 'White supremacist system' for being removed from House seat.
    As predictable as the sun rising in the east.
  • Apr 11, 2023, 03:19 PM
    jlisenbe
    Ran across this today while helping a weak as water preacher prepare a sermon. In 1644, a Scottish Presbyterian minister named Samuel Rutherford wrote the book Lex, Rex, Latin for "The law is King." It was revolutionary. In it, he made these four points. Oh that we would go back to them.

    1, What is the purpose of government? The glory of God and the wellbeing of the people in both outward and spiritual terms.

    2. Who or what brings government into being? It is brought into being by God and the people by means of a contract or covenant.

    3. What is the nature of government? Government involves declaring, applying and enforcing the law.

    4. What are the limits on government? Government cannot go beyond God’s law and command what is contrary to it or abuse the people.
  • Apr 11, 2023, 04:00 PM
    Wondergirl
    What is the purpose of guns? Weekly (or more often) mass murder.

    P.S. The 2nd Amendment was about guns for a well-regulated militia, not for individual use.
  • Apr 11, 2023, 07:31 PM
    jlisenbe
    Why did you bring up the subject of guns?

    At any rate, what was a militia in colonial times?
  • Apr 11, 2023, 08:53 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Why did you bring up the subject of guns?

    To quote you and add to your list, "oh that we would go back to" a country without many guns.

    Quote:

    At any rate, what was a militia in colonial times?
    Well-regulated. Controlled. Responsible. Use guns only to protect the people's freedom and rights.
  • Apr 12, 2023, 05:16 AM
    jlisenbe
    Colonial militias were assemblies of local men, usually poorly trained and organized and generally not having uniforms, which could be assembled quickly for local defense. It was not the army. They relied on men owning their own guns.

    Quote:

    To quote you and add to your list, "oh that we would go back to" a country without many guns.
    When was the U.S. a country "without many guns"?

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