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  • Apr 21, 2007, 08:32 PM
    ahjiu
    Theft under 5000. First offence?
    Hi, I see that there are many questions with the same topic... but I haven't seen anyone with the same situation as I do... so here's my question...


    I was caught by undercover security while shoplifting at walmart with a friend of mine. The total of the things came to around $50... the police came.. and we both got a Form 9( blue ticket with a court date and a date for fingerprint) I'm 20... and my friend is 18.. and we got a 1year ban from walmart
    However this is not really the first time I've been caught... I was caught for shoplifting about 1year ago at shoppers.. but I got off with a yellow ticket for "trespassing" and a fine of $75...


    And for my friend... she's 18... with a clean record... no tickets and convictions of anything in the past... is she going to be okay?

    So some of my questions are...
    1: would I end up with a criminal record?
    2: should I get a lawyer?
    3: if I have previously been in trouble with the law over other matters... is it going to affect me?
    4: is it true that... wal-mart could bring up security camera captured video against me? Because... honestly... I've stolen from wal-mart and gotten away with it before... I think this is why they got an undercover security on me this time...



    Thanks for anyone that might be able to help me out...

    ** another question...

    I've heard that there's a new "law" that came out... something about not putting charges on shoplifting under $100... @ walmart..? I'm not too sure on the whole deal... but would anyone have any additional info on that?
  • Apr 21, 2007, 08:43 PM
    Fr_Chuck
    Yes you will have a criminal record if you are found guilty or plead guilty

    You always have the right to have an attorney

    Yes when it comes to your sentence, prior criminal activity can effect the punishment you get

    Yes walmart can show security camera video in court against you if they need to or have it. ( actually them catching you with the goods on you is all they really need) But prior actions of stealing can not be sued for this case, only evidence about this crime only. ( except maybe in the sentencing stage to show a pattern of this behavior.)
  • Apr 21, 2007, 09:23 PM
    ahjiu
    Thanks for your answer...
  • Apr 30, 2007, 08:56 PM
    ahjiu
    Is there anyone else that might be able to give me some advice?
  • May 9, 2007, 07:54 PM
    ahjiu
    I'm sorry to up this post... but my court date is coming up...
    Any other piece of advice??



    Would I get jailtime for this? Because I'm too poor to hire a lawyer... so I'm just going to show up to the court date on my own...
    Does anyone have any tips on what I should say..
    I would plead guilty... but I just want to be prepared for what might happen...


    Thanks a lot...
  • Jun 2, 2007, 11:46 PM
    keljai
    l'm not sure but l was just wondering if you can say what happen to your friend after. Thanks greatly appreceated
  • Aug 4, 2007, 02:19 AM
    ahjiu
    Oh... um.. an update on the whole matter...
    Well... I got away with doing 30hrs of community service... n then charges withdrawn...
    And my frd just got away with it all.. because she had nothing on her..
  • Sep 5, 2007, 01:46 PM
    sxe_van
    Hi ahjiu.. your case is interesting to me since I got caught shoplifting at walmart today.. I have a court date set but I was just curious.. did they have security tapes? I have received a year ban already from walmart and the cop said he would recommend an alternative to the crown because it was my first offence. My stolen stuff was about $75. Do you have any suggestions?
  • Sep 8, 2007, 01:43 AM
    ahjiu
    Well... this is only what happened to me...
    But I think u'll be okay... just go to the court date... see the duty counsel... see what they say... and then go from there...
  • Sep 11, 2007, 05:48 PM
    Treeny
    My daughter got caught stealing at k- mart 50.00 or less some makup,
    She has to go to a behavior class and then back to court.
    Also K-mart has their own law firm suing for 500.00 now its up to 800.00
    And it can go up to 1,0000 if it is not paid.
    They will either drop it or take us to court for it.
    We do not intend on paying it so hopefully it won't be worth the cost for them to take it
    To court.
  • Apr 5, 2009, 07:27 AM
    ringoffire
    Can an unrelated law suit use or subpoena store videos / pictures from a trespassing charge?
  • Jun 24, 2010, 07:26 PM
    vjachi
    About a month ago I got caught stealing at Shoppers Drug Mart. It was only 70$ worth of things and I was caught by an undercover investigator. This was my first time getting caught doing anything against the law and about a month and a week later I got a letter from Shoppers stating I owe 500$. At the scene when it happened, the cops said since I am under 18 and it is my first offence I will be let go with no charges but if it happens again I will have to go to court and I will be charged. Was Shoppers legally allowed to send me this letter after the cops themselves told me I will not be charged? What do I do?
  • Sep 5, 2010, 02:39 PM
    mattyboy2282
    I'm 13 and I was with my friend who picked up a $30 dollar bluetooth and jammed it in my backpack and I never knew it
    So when I walked out the security took me and I got the blame of course
    So now I have a court date December 2nd of this year
    It counts as a first offense and now I'm banned from that store nationwide for life


    1. Am I going to go to a juvenile center?
    2. am I going to get sewed?
    3. are there options for community service?
    4. if not then what can community service consist of?
    *** answer
  • Sep 5, 2010, 02:41 PM
    mattyboy2282
    I'm 13 and I was with my friend who picked up a $30 dollar bluetooth and jammed it in my backpack and I never knew it
    So when I walked out the security took me and I got the blame of course
    So now I have a court date December 2nd of this year
    It counts as a first offense and now I'm banned from that store nationwide for life


    1. Am I going to go to a juvenile center?
    2. am I going to get sewed?
    3. are there options for community service?
    4. if not then what can community service consist of?
    *** answer

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