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for days now a container vessel has been stuck in the Suez canal, aside from bankrupting the Egyptian government, this has the potential to disrupt world trade and I don't see the world powers doing anything about it. Who would have thought it was so easy just beach a container ship. To get it out they might have to redig the canal
Suez Canal built 1870s . I'm guessing it was not designed to take a cargo ship 224,000 tons the size of the Empire State building . What exactly do you think the "world powers ": can do about it ?
Well I'm sure they have powerfull tugs and dredges afterall it is their trade that is affected, but I guess your solution is to ban large ships from using it
I don't have a solution . Egypt owns the canal and gets all tolls for transit . There are tugs already attempting to dislodge the ship . How many rescue vessels do you think can operate around the Ever Given ? Maybe Egypt should have limits on the size of the vessels allowed to transverse .
They obviously need a lot more than 8 tugboats.
Ship happens
you see it all comes down to money, Egypt won't ban big ships while ever they are paid, the solution is to build a wider, deeper, bigger canal but cash strapped Egypt won't do it, after all they didn't dig the original, it took an empire to do that. Of course we could go back to making the source of goods closer to home and leave a few chinese on the unemployment linesQuote:
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According to reports the weather beached the boat but for whatever reason a lot of money will be spent any way to correct the situation they didn't see coming. I imagine the costs of the greatly delayed cargo will go way up as well as delays on the traffic back up.
They should have seen it coming, it isn't the first time it has happened
Look who has to come to the rescue yet again. "Navy sending team to Suez Canal to help dig out massive ship blocking passage."
https://www.foxnews.com/world/navy-t...ocking-passage
The canal had a rebuild in 2015 by il Sisi .It was an Egyptian project and was completed in a year . So before you start disparaging the Egyptians consider they are not some backward country without the resources They financed the project not unlike Ausrtralia would do. The project allowed 2 way traffic in the canal for the 1st time ..... something the 'empire ' that built it did not consider necessary . As tal said . It was a freak accident .Quote:
you see it all comes down to money, Egypt won't ban big ships while ever they are paid, the solution is to build a wider, deeper, bigger canal but cash strapped Egypt won't do it, after all they didn't dig the original, it took an empire to do that. Of course we could go back to making the source of goods closer to home and leave a few chinese on the unemployment lines
As far as moving the supply chain home . Good luck with that .Or should I say ;that ship has sailed .
And how do you deal with what happened in December when a cargo ship lost almost 2,000 containers in the wide open Pacific ? That type of product lost is much more prevalent than this rare ship grounding .
I recall a number of times vendors telling me the shipment was "lost " without going into specifics . But it went something like this
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Look I know Egypt has made improvements, afterall with $5 billion a year they need to put something back, as far as Egypt being a backward country, well I have been there and I didn't see anything to distinguish them from the rest of the ME, despite their money and they have plenty. You want to excuse them but ask yourself why was that ship escorted it is extremely large, pure incompetence
All 20/20 hindsight . We are seeing the same thought with the woke crowd . People of any era can look back and wonder how their predecessors can be so dimwitted and backward . We all see things that could've been done differently or better . BTW . If the US had planned the redesign of the Suez Canal ;we would still be in the environmental impact review stage for the next decade .
Yes we are all thankfull we are not in the US
The Panama Canal works pretty good and so did the Suez, until Mother Nature makes man look stupid. That happens all the time and to any society. Were the Aussies stupid and incompetent when they were on fire last year?
Well I would be the first to say some were, however as a nation we responded to the threat and many were saved. The same can be said of recent flooding and we were stupid not to raise the dam wall years ago and even more stupid to allow development on the flood plain. My point is governments are stupid, individuals are stupid becuase they respond to short term thinking
Australia is being hit with plagues that are close to biblical . Fires ,drought then floods ,mice pooing so much it takes six hours to clean up their waste. ,snakes, spiders .....all at the same time .
'Worst mice plague I've ever seen': Millions of rodents descend on eastern Australia (nbcnews.com)
Spiders and snakes swarm Australian homes as they flee record flooding - CNN
Australia Flooding Kills 2 as Waters Continue to Barrel Downstream | The Weather Channel - Articles from The Weather Channel | weather.com
Australia floods: Saving a home from fires only to lose it in floods - BBC News
It's that time of year Clete. Start spreading that lamb blood .
Hmmm time to put on the conspiracy hat again.
China and Iran sign a major economic deal reported yesterday...this right after a massive cargo ship runs aground in the Suez blocking Western access to ME oil .
Iran and China sign 25-year cooperation agreement | Reuters
Iranian Ambassador to Russia, Kazem Jalali, proposed activating a shipping line that passes through Iran as an alternative to the Suez Canal.
Iran proposes alternative shipping line to Suez Canal (aa.com.tr)
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Tom, you may have noticed, this is a different land and the wild life responds to abundance, there is an abundance of water at the moment and so we have a mice plague, it is probably thirty years since the last one I remember it well, roads paved with mouse skins but we are all still here. Yes things happen here in biblical proportions, it is afterall the the Great South Land of the Holy Spirit, but very few lives are lost in these events so we learn to live with them. Fire is part of this land, water is part of this land, and with a season like this we will be overrun with kangaroos next but because of covid there are other things we will not be overrun with. The Chinese have tried their best to put a dint in our economy and succeeded in putting a dint in their own, we have survived a stop to international travel and shutdown of our cities but we are not covid ravaged like some so our blessings are also biblical. Suggest you try spreading the blood of the lamb in your own dear land
The Ever Given is ever giving, still stuck despite high tide, dredging, and tugs which makes me wonder why was a ship of this size allowed in the canal in the first place
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