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  • Oct 17, 2017, 06:23 AM
    paraclete
    Racca is free
    Let us just shout Halleujah
  • Oct 17, 2017, 07:31 AM
    talaniman
    Don't celebrate just yet. You have destroyed the nest, but you haven't destroyed the roaches.
  • Oct 17, 2017, 09:06 AM
    smoothy
    How much did it cost before?
  • Oct 17, 2017, 09:43 AM
    talaniman
    The real question is what did we learn from the last experience with roaches.
  • Oct 17, 2017, 02:03 PM
    paraclete
    The lesson with roaches is you have to exterminate them
  • Oct 18, 2017, 11:21 AM
    talaniman
    The history of man is FULL of outlaws, rogues, and disgusting humans with bad intentions, that thrive on weak and ineffectual governance. To be effective you must be proactive in not just good governance, but enforcement, and growth, because like it or not, bad guys are always evolving and looking for ways around whatever devices you develop to exterminate them.
  • Oct 18, 2017, 09:09 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    The history of man is FULL of outlaws, rogues, and disgusting humans with bad intentions, that thrive on weak and ineffectual governance. To be effective you must be proactive in not just good governance, but enforcement, and growth, because like it or not, bad guys are always evolving and looking for ways around whatever devices you develop to exterminate them.


    Yes so keeping guns hasn't worked, and the reason is you are not allowed to exterminate the bad guys, but following up on your suggestion to be proactive, what do you suggest since all that enforcement has given us is more bad guys
  • Oct 19, 2017, 05:48 AM
    smoothy
    In many states here we have something rare in other countries. Called the Castle doctrine. Someone intrudes into your place of residence... you have the legal right to exterminate them... so to say, they don't HAVE to be armed, they don't HAVE to have injured you first. You just have to feel threatened. You don't HAVE to prove it was necessary. I feel sorry for people who live places where they can't even protect themselves in their own homes without fear of prosecution.
  • Oct 19, 2017, 06:22 AM
    talaniman
    Don't need help and knock on a door of someone who feels threatened and as a matter of LAW any shooting has to be investigated. To Clete's question though not sure I have a solution since weak governments, and oppression go hand in hand around the world and segregating whole people mostly poor immigrants in one place often leads to high crime, vicious gangs, and a host of problems.

    Chicago at the turn of the century comes to mind with the mob wars and plenty of corruption especially during Prohibition. They have just traded one gang for another over the decades, but same stuff. The new ghettos of Europe, go unnoticed and unreported but the same segregation and oppression and no doubt corruption. Racca may have been freed, but plenty of places for the roaches to run to, thrive and grow.
  • Oct 19, 2017, 02:41 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    In many states here we have something rare in other countries. Called the Castle doctrine. Someone intrudes into your place of residence... you have the legal right to exterminate them... so to say, they don't HAVE to be armed, they don't HAVE to have injured you first. You just have to feel threatened. You don't HAVE to prove it was necessary. I feel sorry for people who live places where they can't even protect themselves in their own homes without fear of prosecution.

    I would rather live in a place where home invasion is rare. I know opportunists and idiots are everywhere but we don't live in fear, and that is because people don't go armed. The problems you have you created
  • Oct 19, 2017, 04:45 PM
    tomder55
    Ok so we helped the Iran Shia proxies defeat the former Baathists .Now are we going to help them defeat the Kurds ? https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-shia-fighters
  • Oct 19, 2017, 09:50 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Ok so we helped the Iran Shia proxies defeat the former Baathists .Now are we going to help them defeat the Kurds ? https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-shia-fighters

    We can expect america to do a classic backflip, the kurds don't help Trump's america first policy at all, and all his anti Iran rhetoric is setting the agenda, he will talk them to death
  • Oct 20, 2017, 01:24 AM
    tomder55
    The Kurds are our only true ally there ;and we will abandon them again.
  • Oct 20, 2017, 05:04 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The Kurds are our only true ally there ;and we will abandon them again.

    Yes, how many freedom fighters have you helped and abandoned?
  • Oct 20, 2017, 05:45 AM
    talaniman
    If we listen to our NATO ally Turkey, the Kurds should be wiped out, as terrorists. Chad is also an ally against Isis and terrorists groups in Africa, and they end up on the travel ban list. Go figure. What's the old saying, "With friends like that..."?

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