How can I replace a 24 inch section of ABS pipe (shower drain pipe) when the sections I am connecting to are rigid? I've heard of using 4 90's but surely there must be a way to do this without tearing up any more concrete than I have to?
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How can I replace a 24 inch section of ABS pipe (shower drain pipe) when the sections I am connecting to are rigid? I've heard of using 4 90's but surely there must be a way to do this without tearing up any more concrete than I have to?
Have you considered using no-hub couplings? Like this:
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PalmMP3 was bang on when he suggested using No-Hub Bands as couplings.
(Welcome back Moshie, you've been missed.) No-Hub Bands are much more ridged then the neoprene Fernco couplings and do not allow the pipe to sag. When you make your cut, allow for the 1/8th inch ridge in the coupling and make your cut 1/4" larger. Good luck, Tom
Thanks guys! I actually looked at this and thought they might not be allowable being as they will be underground and the steel clamps exposed to the dirt. Thanks again for your timely response as I'm headed to the building supplies right now.
No-Hub bands will work, but since they are manufactured specificly for No-Hub Cast Iron pipe, you would get into some serious trouble with the inspectors in my area if you used them on plastic.Quote:
Originally Posted by speedball1
The approved method in my area (for 2" plastic) is to use a Fernco Proflex or Mission CP-200.
3" plastic would be a CP-33 and 1-1/2" plastic would be a CP-150.
Hmmm, OK, then speedball1, could I actually use 4 90's to allow me to just keep rigid plastic fittings? i.e. would that creat too many bends? Thanks for any comments!
Naw, you should definitely use shielded couplings.Quote:
Originally Posted by nphillips55
Put too many changes of direction in the line and you'll have to add a clean-out.
"could i actually use 4 90's to allow me to just keep rigid plastic fittings?"
Inserting "dog-legs" in a drainage system isn't the best of plumbing practice. I advise against it. Growler's correct when he sez that No-Hub Bands are made for cast iron. However, unless Fernco's come up with a metal band since I've retired that won't allow the pipe to sag I'll keep on sugesting that the more ridged No-Hub bands be used to couple the two pipes together.
Growler speaks of a unhappy inspector and he's probably correct. But wait! We're not pulling a permit to replace a chunk of pipe are we? On a 4" piece of (sv)cast iron the OD is 4 1/4 while the OD on the PVC is 4 3/8". That leaves 1/8th inch total or 1/16 th. A side. Plenty of room to open up the band to accommodate 4" PVC. I can see no problem in using the NO-Hub Band for your repair joib. In defense of Growler, he's a "by the book plumber"( and a good one) while I'm a older verson. A seat of the pants plumber. If you're gonna stick close to code listen to Growler. While I attempt to go by code I'm not above taking the "easy way" if it gets the job done. Good luck, Tom
I am not pulling a permit for the repair, thanks so much for comments from both you guys. I've gone with the "no hub coupling" exactly as suggested originally by imgrowler. :o) I ran water through to ensure no leaks and all is well. Covered and cement patched and on to the next project... have a great day guys!
Actually, it was ME who suggested it originally. But you're welcome anyway. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by nphillips55
Glad it worked out!
Moishe
My apologies Moishe! Thank you for correcting me. Have a great day!
The Fernco and Mission shielded couplings I mention are actually much less prone to sag at the transition point than the 'crinkle bands' used in No-Hub Bands.Quote:
However, unless Fernco's come up with a metal band since I've retired that won't allow the pipe to sag I'll keep on sugesting that the more ridged No-Hub bands be used to couple the two pipes together.
If you were to put a micrometer on the two different bands (which I have done) you would see that the bands on the Fernco and Mission shielded couplings are significantly thicker than the bands on the No-Hub Bands.
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