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  • Aug 17, 2015, 11:05 AM
    Yusf
    Why graph curves after yield point in stress-strain graph.
    I understand these things:
    Stress is the internal force that neighbouring particles exert on one another.

    Strain is a measure of deformation of an object. Strain equals extension÷original length.

    Are they right?

    And also I don't get why strain reduces after the yield point. My point is, if an excess of force is being applied after yield point, how is the material providing the extra opposite force?

    Hope I am clear about the question. Someone please make me clear about the answer too.
  • Aug 17, 2015, 11:37 AM
    ebaines
    Your definitions are OK. But the premise behind this question is incorrect:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by yusf
    I don't get why strain reduces after the yield point. My point is, if an excess of force is being applied after yield point, how is the material providing the extra opposite force?

    Once enough stress has been applied for the material to reach its yield point, the strain increases at a higher rate (i.e., the slope of the stress-strain curve decreases), because less additional force is required per unit of additional strain. Given:



    where = stress, = strain, and E = Young's Modulus, you can see that as E decreases past the yield point then increasing strain requires smaller amounts of additional stress..
  • Aug 18, 2015, 12:00 AM
    kreysiz
    The graph curves after the yield point because, it no longer follows the Hooke's Law after the yield point.
    Hooke's Law states that " stress is directly proportional to strain".
  • Aug 18, 2015, 09:33 AM
    Yusf
    no I don't understand.

    The graph curves (stress on y axis and attain on x axis) meaning that the gradient has decreased. So a smaller change in stress occurs over a larger change in stress. So rate of change of stress decreases, that what I understand.

    And will it be right to say that a smaller stress is required to make a higher strain, so the graph curves down. (after the yield point)
  • Aug 18, 2015, 10:08 AM
    ebaines
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Yusf View Post
    So a smaller change in stress occurs over a larger change in stress.

    I think you mean: "So a smaller change in stress occurs over a larger change in strain."

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Yusf
    So rate of change of stress decreases, that what I understand.

    Correct. As noted previosuly, the material gets a bit weaker, so the value for Young's Modulus "E" decreases, and the slope of the stress-strain curve decreases.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Yusf
    And will it be right to say that a smaller stress is required to make a higher strain, so the graph curves down. (after the yield point)

    For many materials that's indeed what happens. After the yield point the slope decreases, but is still positve. But as the material is stretched more and more it reaches a point of ultimate tensile stress, where the slope becomes negative. At this point the material starts to neck down, and less stress is needed to make it continue stretching. Finally you reach the fracture point.
  • Aug 18, 2015, 03:15 PM
    Yusf
    Fully understood! Thanks!

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