Three way switch, ceiling box with 4 black, 4 white and 1 red wire
I am trying to replace a ceiling fan with a regular light fixture. The ceiling box has four black wires twisted together, four white wires twisted together and one red wire. There is no ground. The light fixture has one black wire, one white wire and a ground. There are two switches that control the one fixture. I can wire it so that the light is on but will not go off from either switch. I have tried black to black, white to white and capped red; white to white, ceiling red to fixture black and ceiling black capped.