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  • Nov 1, 2014, 01:16 PM
    adenia14
    Tank bladder in a well
    If the bladder in the well tank is bad will the tank not water log
  • Nov 1, 2014, 01:42 PM
    ma0641
    The tank WILL waterlog if the bladder is bad. Try the little air valve on the top of the tank, see if air or water comes out.
  • Nov 1, 2014, 01:58 PM
    adenia14
    If the nozzle and venturi get stuck what will it do and what will cause the tank to loose air pressure the tank is not water logged
  • Nov 1, 2014, 02:16 PM
    adenia14
    Well tank
    If the nozzle and venturi get stuck what will it do and what will cause the tank to loose air pressure the tank is not water logged
  • Nov 1, 2014, 03:23 PM
    hkstroud
    I think you are going to have to say that a little differently. What do you mean by nozzle and venturi getting stuck?
    Just tell us what has or is happening.
  • Nov 1, 2014, 03:55 PM
    adenia14
    Would them being stuck cause the well to not prime properly
  • Nov 1, 2014, 04:16 PM
    hkstroud
    I repeat, what do you mean by nozzle and venturi getting stuck?

    Are you referring to the Schrader valve, usually referred to as a valve stem, looks just like the valve stem on your car's tires.

    If the valve stem is stuck open you will loose all the air in the tank and the tank will immediately become "water logged".

    That, however would have nothing to do with priming the well pump.
  • Nov 1, 2014, 04:33 PM
    adenia14
    They are in the twin injecter near the foot that is what the manual calls them
  • Nov 1, 2014, 05:51 PM
    ma0641
    "If the nozzle and venturi get stuck". This is in the foot valve? They don't move, don't get stuck. Air pressure being lost in a bladder tank is either through the top valve leaking or a bad bladder
  • Nov 1, 2014, 11:23 PM
    jlisenbe
    You might be referring to a checkvalve/footvalve not closing properly and allowing the system to slowly, or even rapidly, lose pressure. In that case, you will notice the system losing pressure when no water is being used. Once pressure falls to a certain point, the pump will cut back on.
  • Nov 1, 2014, 11:28 PM
    jlisenbe
    You are referring, I believe, to what many people call the "jet". They cannot get stuck as they do not move. They could get clogged. If that happened, your pump would either stop working or work much less efficiently. It would not cause your tank to lose pressure, but a leaking footvalve/checkvalve could certainly do that.
  • Nov 2, 2014, 01:49 AM
    adenia14
    The pump will not keep a prime but there is water in the line the tank checks out fine not water logged brand new pump and motor our conclusion is it is the foot valve or the twin injector
  • Nov 2, 2014, 06:16 AM
    jlisenbe
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    This diagram shows what you have. I imagine the footvalve is leaking. When you say it won't hold prime, how frequently do you have to reprime the pump?

    Quite possible that you can solve your problem by putting a checkvalve on the suction line near the wellhead.
  • Nov 20, 2014, 12:01 PM
    adenia14
    Well problem
    OK we have a new pump, new motor, new foot, new jet, and the tank is good why wouldn't the well prime
  • Nov 20, 2014, 06:12 PM
    jlisenbe
    I'd put a checkvalve on the suction line near the wellhead.

    When you say it won't prime, it could mean one of two things.

    1. When you pour water into the primer port, it just keeps accepting water but never fills up.
    2. You pour water into the primer port, it holds water for at least 20 minutes, but then the system will not pump when you turn it on.

    Which problem is yours?

    Are you sure your jet/injector is in water? I know it sounds simple, but you'd be surprised.
  • Nov 21, 2014, 04:24 AM
    Mike45plus
    Adenia,
    The nozzle at the bottom of the venturi tube in the jet assembly has a very small opening. A BB sized piece of debris can clog this port and disrupt the siphon jet action. A typical blocked venturi port will result in a bouncing pressure gauge reading; usually between 25 & 28lbs. The pump will not prime under these circumstances...
  • Nov 21, 2014, 06:36 AM
    adenia14
    OK the tank is good the pump is new the motor is new the foot is new just put in a new ejector and when we prime it it fills but when we cut the pump on it pumps water for a few seconds then it looses the prime and yes everything that should be in the water is
  • Nov 21, 2014, 07:03 PM
    jlisenbe
    When a pump will not prime, you typically think of a leak somewhere or a faulty footvalve. That being the case, I'd put a checkvalve on the suction line near the wellhead. It's a cheap, simple attempt at a fix.

    You might try filling with water till it overflows the primer port. Then walk away from it for a couple of hours. When you come back, there should still be water at the port. If there is not, then you have to be leaking somewhere.
  • Nov 21, 2014, 07:44 PM
    hkstroud
    Quote:

    when we prime it it fills but when we cut the pump on it pumps water for a few seconds then it looses the prime

    To me, that sounds like you are just pumping out the water you put in to prime. Not that you are losing your prime. In other words something wrong with the injector and it is not pulling in any new water.
  • Nov 21, 2014, 07:57 PM
    jlisenbe
    Could be, but they stated the injector was new.

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