We are told that because to the lifting of the level of the terror alert and the subsequent increase in survelliance and arrests that the Muslims feel intiminated. Well welcome to the club, come and jointhose who feel intiminated by their presence, by their alien cultures and foreign language in our midst and mostly by the very real possibility that there are terrorists in their community aided and abetted by members of their community. They now complain that their travel plans are being questioned and why? Because they have chosen to travel to a part of the world in turmoil. Well tough, have some common sense and realise that there are more important things in this world than your travel plans. They complain that police have dared to enter their homes and search, and then not make an arrest, and I have to ask out of the hundreds of thousands of muslims in our community, why were a select few chosen? Is it a lottery? Guilt by association, not a pleasant thought, but we have a saying here, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it just might be a duck.

So if you fly an ISIS flag, expect ASIO(americans read Homeland and NSA) to come knocking, if you send money to ISIS expect ASIO to come knocking, if you bignote yourself among your friends at the mosque, expect ASIO to come knocking, and if you are planning a holiday in the middle east, forget it

Remember the fellow in Melbourne, his travel plans were disrupted, he flew the ISIS flag, attacked police when questioned and is now dead. the only good terrorist is a dead terrorist, a sad truth

Nice rant, but I doubt it applies to as many Muslims as you say. Just to the loonies who scare the crap out of people with their crazy actions. All the loonies aren't muslims either, just sympathetic to them, and are attracted to the crazy BS message of certain jihadists extremists.

But of course you crazy christians take it upon yourselves to make yourselves victims by the crazy few, and fail to acknowledge the nutjobs have killed more of their own than they have of you. That's okay because normal people everywhere are scared sh1tless and incapable of rational reasoning.

Your rant is certainly evidence of that.

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So if you fly an ISIS flag, expect ASIO(americans read Homeland and NSA) to come knocking, if you send money to ISIS expect ASIO to come knocking, if you bignote yourself among your friends at the mosque, expect ASIO to come knocking, and if you are planning a holiday in the middle east, forget it

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sounds like prudent policy to me.

I'd hope anyone that flew an ISIS flag gets beaten to death. Not just made to feel uncomfortable, or just be questioned.

Well smoothy you got your wish that nutcase in Melbourne was shot dead. Tal thinks I'm ranting, he forgets that Christians are killed by Muslims every day of the week somewhere in the world. Just to reinforce what I say two muslims were charged after making death threats to Christian school children

You are ranting. As usual,

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If it weren't for a few Muslims whom you think are ALL Muslims, you would be afraid of something else you don't like.

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Well smoothy you got your wish that nutcase in Melbourne was shot dead. Tal thinks I'm ranting, he forgets that Christians are killed by Muslims every day of the week somewhere in the world. Just to reinforce what I say two muslims were charged after making death threats to Christian school children

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They aren't really Muslims. They use that tag to make it seem like the entire religion is out to kill the infidels. Looks like they are succeeding with you, messing with your mind.

I'm not afraid to them Tal but I do believe that nothing is served by multiculturism except eventual division in the community. Muslims come into a country like mine with a lot of baggage because most come as refugees or displaced persons, but rather than accepting this is a different place they start telling us we should adopt sharia law or allow them to live under sharia law as if our laws are inferior. I abhour the arrogance which says I will tell you how to live and yet this life style has proven to be a disaster in other places.

What did we get when we raided some terrorists among them, an operation with 800 police in three states executing warrants, certainly not expressions that this was a fair cop, no they retreated into their defensive stance of police state and police brutality when in fact very few of them had been affected. We don't have terrorists in our general community, they only exist in the muslim community, and then we see outright attack, a supposed lone wolf, but that person had to be redicalised somehow within that community.

So I'm prepared to say thus far and no further and if you don't like it you can stuff it where the light don't shine. And as far as me being a Christian is concerned, I uphold Christian values in my community, not the values of murder and desolation

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what are they ? Hasidim ?

They are deluded evil NUTS who mislead you by invoking a religious deity to scare you into stupidity, and fight the wrong battle.

Tom they are Muslims but they have been radicalised into thinking theirs is the only expression, a legalistic intrepetation that permits killing indiscrimately to setup this religious structure called a caliphate which then demands the loyality of all muslims. Their aim is to take over all arab lands and then expand. This is the same nonsense that drove the conquests in the seventh century

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They are political opportunists who have brainwashed the uneducated (and stupid?) masses, who are stuck in an ancient time warp. If the masses die for this cause, they believe heaven will embrace them. The opportunists are trying to create a theocracy, a caliphate, as Tom mentioned and are historical throwbacks.

If they worship Allah, and Mohammed... they are Muslims. No other religion picks the moon gods to worship.

This has been in the news lately. I wonder how these non muslims keep getting away with it if so many muslims dont agree with them.

Iranians Arrested and Forced to Repent on State TV for Dancing to Happy Song | Pamela Geller, Atlas Shrugs

But this is a twentieth century phenomenon, irrespective of its roots, which continues to grow. Afghanistan was one manifestitation of it, born out of a fight against an invader and the same thinking has arisen in Syria and it is fed from Pakistan. Yes, these people are brainwashed from endlessly repeating the same mantras. Left alone without opposition they grow and fester but without bulldozing a population and a generation you can't uproot these ideas. Nazism still exists despite defeat, and this won't be defeated without depriving them a place to recruit by raising the standard of living in these countries and returning the refugees to a peaceful homeland. That is not going to happen without boots on the ground because we have already seen the resolve is not there among the muslim populations.

When you attack the radical the community closes ranks and sees it as persecution of their ideas, of their religion.

Iraq was destroyed but not rebuilt creating a vacuum and an insurgency that provides a fertile recruiting ground for ISIS. There is a part of the Iraqi population that wants ISIS to succeed, there is a part of the Syrian population that wants ISIS to succeed, this is because they think they will overturn a tyranical regime, and there are opportunists like the Kurds you think they might just break away

Tom a rhetorical question, if they worship the Moon god, does this make them Lunies? Their actions and thinking might suggest this is so.

here's a hint ... I have James Madison as an avatar
Smoothy has General William T. Sherman .

And do you understand my avatar

nope ...

Convergence and progression