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I've had this problem for months. The water swirls around and I have to flush several times. There is no suction. I have looked for small holes under the toilet rim but can only see fairly large ones at the side and back. Nor can I find any hole at the bottom of the toilet. Do all toilets have one? I think my water level is OK but the overflow pipe is a polythene tube. I only noticed this yesterday. Is this right?
It has a lever flush.

Thanks in advance.

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The water swirls around and I have to flush several times. There is no suction.

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This indicates a siphon problem.

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I have looked for small holes under the toilet rim but can only see fairly large ones at the side and back. Nor can I find any hole at the bottom of the toilet. Do all toilets have one?

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Most toilets have rim holes to start the swirling action, How old is this toilet and are you in the USA?

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but the overflow pipe is a polythene tube. I only noticed this yesterday. Is this right?

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What is your concern here?

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Nor can I find any hole at the bottom of the toilet. Do all toilets have one?

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The newer ones mostly have a jet hole at the bottom of the bowl. These are called siphon jet toilets. The ones with no jet holes are called gravity toilets and the flush action is started by the force of the water from the tank. Make sure the tank level is 1/2" below the top of the overflow tube. Too little water means a week siphon. Can you take a picture of the bowl? Any more information? Back to you, Tom

Thanks for reply.I'm in UK but having looked at a video on YouTube, my toilet seems very similar to Mancesa. I think the water is at the right level and even if I pour more into the tank, it still doesn't flush properly.

I really need a picture of the bowl or at least a link where I can see what you have. Do you need instructions on how to add a picture? Is this a older toilet? If there's no small jet hole in the bottom then you have a gravity toilet but most bowls have rim holes. It sounds like you may have a Mansfield toilet, Is there a name on the bowl? Back to you. Tom

Yes please . I can't find anyway to attach an image. Looked in help section but can't see 'additional options'

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Originally Posted by betteted

Yes please . I can't find anyway to attach an image. Looked in help section but can't see 'additional options'

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Ah. Wasn't logged in.Attachment 46260

Okay, what we had here is a gravity toilet. What gives this bowl energy on enough to flush is the weight of the water coming down from the tank. What I think has happened is a partial blockage just large enough to produce I'm back pressure to slow the siphon action. Try this, purchase a closet auger and auger the bowl. If that doesn't help get back to me and we will go to plan B. Good luck, Tom

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Thanks. I can't find an auger anywhere so I'll have to order one online but before I do could you tell me if it would work with the toilet pipe as it bends 90 degrees. I've inserted photo.

A closet auger is flexible and designed to get around bends. This tool will clean out any clogs and extend 4 inches down past the flange. I'm amazed that plumbing stores in the UK don't carry them. Every home owner should have this tool. Let me know if it helps. Good luck. Tom

I thought I'd posted this once so apologies if a duplicate.

I had someone come out to clear the blockage today and he said it was a problem with the toilet not a blockage. He said that the rim holes were blocked on one side as the toilet only swirled one way. He said I probably need a new pan but before I get one I would like to go back to the overflow pipe. It is not secured at the bottom and just floats around in the tank. I cannot find an image of one like it. I can't pour vinegar or anything else into it as it just goes straight into the tank water

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He said I probably need a new pan

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What's a :pan"? Did the plumber repair the flush problem? This "overflow tube", did it look like this?" Back to you, Tom

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This is it. Hope you can see it properly.