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  • Feb 19, 2005, 04:21 PM
    headranger
    Question using Oulook Express 6
    I am currently using WinXP and Oexpress 6

    I am trying to find a simple application (preferably freeware) that will allow me, when I send outgoing emails, to be able to see when and if my recipients actually opened their emails (from me).

    I do not like the MSN feature that asks YES or No for a receipt.

    I have been told there is something like this available.

    ANY ideas, suggestions will be greatly appreciated,

    HeadRanger George in SF ;)
  • Feb 19, 2005, 04:58 PM
    NeedKarma
    A quick search turned up this: http://www.msgtag.com/Outlook_Read_Receipt.html
  • Feb 19, 2005, 05:33 PM
    Nez
    X Files?
    Had a look at the program,and it looks OK.But me,being as paranoid as I am,where it says you are sent a message saying your mail has been read,does it mean that THEY! Have read it first? :D

    "Trust no one." (David Duchovny)

    Cheers,
    Nez.
  • Feb 19, 2005, 06:20 PM
    ScottGem
    See my answer on Answerway.
  • Feb 19, 2005, 06:34 PM
    SESaskDFC
    Howdy:

    Read the following part in the explanation of msgtag..

    "all they see is a small MSGTAG footer stating that you've been notified of them having received the message."

    That still doesn't mean they read it.. simply means they got it and deleted it without reading it.. You are still no further ahead!

    Murray
  • Feb 20, 2005, 06:37 AM
    Nez
    Email
    Saw your posting Scott,had a look around and promptly joined up!

    I don't think there is a safe way to view info over the net without 'someone' having a look.I don't know if this is true,but I read that the CIA and others,GCHQ in the UK,monitor phone text messages and voice conversations,for signs of intrigue.But before we all get too carried away,they know what they're looking for,and as for freedom of info,privacy,etc?

    I hope I've stirred up a hornets nest here.Only joking.

    As far as freeware,safe viewing software goes,I know of only one.Say it face to face!

    Then of course they might be listening via satellite.

    Best wishes,
    Nez.
  • Feb 20, 2005, 06:50 AM
    ScottGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nez
    Saw your posting Scott,had a look around and promptly joined up!!

    I dont think there is a safe way to view info over the net without 'someone' having a look.I dont know if this is true,but I read that the CIA and others,GCHQ in the UK,monitor phone text messages and voice conversations,for signs of intrigue.But before we all get too carried away,they know what they're looking for,and as for freedom of info,privacy,etc?

    I hope I've stirred up a hornets nest here.Only joking.

    As far as freeware,safe viewing software goes,I know of only one.Say it face to face!!

    Then of course they might be listening via satellite.

    Best wishes,
    Nez.

    Nez,
    My posting about Return receipt services? I atually have an ambivalent feeling about those. I'm concerned with the privacy issues, but recognize the value of such a service.

    As for your comments about electronic surveillance, not sure where that enters into it, but the sheer volume of traffic means that the only way to monitor this is electronically. Which means, unless your communications contain keywords that the software used to monitor checks for, your communications will not come under scrutiny. Unless you have been singled out for more in depth monitoring.
  • Feb 20, 2005, 08:04 AM
    fredg
    Advice
    Hi, Nez,
    If you post anything to ScottGem, be prepared for LOTS OF STUFF!
    Some is informative, some...
    fredg
  • Feb 20, 2005, 09:54 AM
    Nez
    Outlook Express 6.0
    Guys,this posting is becoming strained.My posting was purelly tongue-in-cheek,and not to be taken too seriously. :D

    The URL which NeedKarma listed yesterday looks the best bet.I've checked Google,and there is stuff out there,most paid for,some incomprehensible to follow,and others I know nothing about.I did have a look at http://www.epromter.com/about.htm but I don't know if that is what headranger has in mind? It is freeware however.

    As for electronic survallance,GCHQ here in the UK,monitor ALL internet traffic.Yet as you say,unless you've been very naughty,they won't bother you.

    All the best,
    Nez.
  • Feb 20, 2005, 03:42 PM
    ScottGem
    Eprompter is a great product for polling mailboxes and getting informed when new mail is received especially when you have popular sites like Yahoo, Hotmail, GMail etc. I use it on several machines. But it doesn't give return receipts. I do use ReadNotify and have read good reviews of msgtag.

    As for the thread getting tense, please ignore (or report) the tension makers.
  • Feb 20, 2005, 04:32 PM
    Nez
    Email
    Hey Scott.I love the bit about about invisible tracking and self-destructing emails. :eek:


    All the best,
    Nez.
  • Feb 20, 2005, 05:18 PM
    ScottGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nez
    Hey Scott.I love the bit about about invisible tracking and self-destructing emails. :eek:


    All the best,
    Nez.

    Yeah. I've never had the opportunity to test the self destructing mail. I keep envisioning, a tape steaming ala me Phelps from Mission Impossible. :D
  • Feb 21, 2005, 04:43 AM
    fredg
    Outlook Express
    Hi,
    Yes, Eprompter is a great free program, but it only lets you know when you have email in Outlook Express.
    And yes, please ignore the "tension makers".
    Have a great day,
    fredg
  • Feb 21, 2005, 06:35 AM
    ScottGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fredg
    Hi,
    Yes, Eprompter is a great free program, but it only lets you know when you have email in Outlook Express.
    fredg

    To set the facts straight:
    Eprompter has nothing to do with Outlook Express. I use Eprompter to poll 10 mailboxes. Two of them AOL, one each for Yahoo, Hotmail and GMail and 5 POP3 mailboxes. EPrompter polls your mail boxes from the server no matter what other e-mail clients you use. You can choose to pull down the full mail or just headers. Eprompter works with the 3 WEB based mail services I mentioned as well As AOL and ANY POP3 mailbox.
  • Feb 21, 2005, 06:37 AM
    SESaskDFC
    Howdy:

    Have to agree with ScottG about Eprompter and its ability to poll a number of sites for email.. Use it at home all he time..

    Just for clarification fredg,

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fredg
    Hi,
    Yes, Eprompter is a great free program, but it only lets you know when you have email in Outlook Express.
    fredg

    As per Eprompter site..

    "ePrompter works with AOL, Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo, POP3, Earthlink, Excite, iName, Juno, Lycos, Mail.com, Mindspring, MSN, MyWay, Netscape, OneBox, Rediffmail, SBC Yahoo, Switchboard, USA.net and hundreds of other email domains.

    ePrompter notifies you which accounts have new messages and how many new messages you have in each account, once new messages have been retrieved.

    And by the way, ePrompter has received CNET's highest rating of 5 Stars!"

    Murray
  • Feb 26, 2005, 08:40 PM
    Wendy225
    New Email
    Here are a couple of email program suggestions, better than Outlook Express

    1. this one is free Thunderbird, and get the Firefox browser to go with it.

    2. I love Incredimail, free with a small ad on it, very nice program,

    :)
  • Feb 28, 2005, 09:14 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wendy225
    Here are a couple of email program suggestions, better than Outlook Express

    1. this one is free Thunderbird, and get the Firefox browser to go with it.

    2. I love Incredimail, free with a small ad on it, very nice program,

    :)

    Incredimail is a nightmare to remove and is loaded with adware, I would not recommend it to anyone.

    Other links about Incredimail:
    http://www.rayshaw.im.com.au/article...ArticleKey=465
    http://springfield.news-leader.com/c...ai-285634.html
    http://support.microsoft.com/default...NoWebContent=1
  • Feb 28, 2005, 09:35 AM
    Wendy225
    Not really
    I have used Incredimail for many years now, I have uninstalled it many times when I have reformatted and I have tested it thorougly as I do with anything I use for my Computer.

    And I have never had a single problem uninstalling it, have you actually downloaded a recent version of incredimail and actually installed it, used it, then attempted to uninstall, just simple go to your add remove programs and it's gone when you remove it, I have never encountered any other removal problems.

    And have never heard of any others.

    Is this your personal experience with a new version of it, or an old experience with and old version, or is this 2nd hand information your offering.

    Unless you have completed tested the program as I have, since I work for a review site that does this, and unless you have tried the newest version and given us other info, like do you use Winxp and maybe some system info, so we all know your system is comparable to others so we may compare your possible experience with incredimail to ours.

    Then if none of this is so, please do not put down a good program with a good solid reputation, I do not use programs that don't work properly or cause problems.

    As for Adware, if you run the free version, you have to put up with a small ad to get it free, it's not really much of a problem.

    And yes Thunderbird is a very good free one also, I have tested it out, if you or anyone else is interested in my best of software the newest updated list, please just ask, for people that want lots of extras and to be able to be creative with your emails, incredimail can't be beat.

    The other ones, especially free ones, don't offer these extras, they are good if all you want to do is simple write a quick little email and dispatch it off, then receive and simple read email.
  • Feb 28, 2005, 12:18 PM
    NeedKarma
    It's my personal experience with previous versions of which there is a lot of out there. I have had many clients, family, and friends, call me to help them remove these previous versions. If you do not want to take my word for it then simply do web search for Incredimail and read the exper.

    If the latest version is adware free and removes all reference to itself in Windows then kudos to that company for making some needed changes. Meanwhile many others have the previous versions and will need help cleaning their computer once they decide the fluff is no longer for them.

    Cheers!

    P.S. Here is what used to be in their agreement to which all users must click OK:
    "10. UNSOLICITED MATERIALS
    Any confidential, secret or proprietary information or other material submitted or sent to
    IncrediMail, including without limitation via any Message sent by You through the Service,
    Site, or IncrediMail's physical mail and e-mail addresses, or in any other way, will be
    deemed to be not confidential or secret. By submitting or sending information or other
    material to IncrediMail or by posting information on any portion of the Service you
    (a) Warrant that you have all rights of any kind to the material and that to the best of
    your knowledge no other party has any rights to the material; and (b) Grant IncrediMail
    an unrestricted, perpetual, irrevocable license to use, reproduce, display, perform, modify,
    transmit and distribute the material, and you further agree that IncrediMail is free to use
    any ideas, know-how, concepts or techniques you send us or post on the Service for any
    purpose, without any compensation to you or any other person."

    That means that all mail content sent through Incredimail is the property of Incredimail.

    Here's their current privacy policy: http://www.incredimail.com/english/fullprivacy.html

    "Users, including without limitation, Users in the European Union, fully understand and unambiguously consent to the collection and processing of their personally identifiable and non-personally identifiable information, in the United States. "

    It's no better.
  • Feb 28, 2005, 02:21 PM
    Wendy225
    More
    I am sure as with any other program or game or file that people use, you will always have someone that has trouble with it, it's the nature of computers, everyone has nearly a different setup, so each will have their own problems, I don't know for sure exactly why it is so hard to remove old incredimails, I have had it for many years now, I even just today installed it on and old Pent 400 system, with an old version, I used the windows add/remove programs feature and could not find any more of it around, I am sure if you dug deep, as with a lot of other programs and games, you would still find traces of them, but nothing worthwhile, so I still don't understand the problems with removing it, it is such a simple procedure, I did it on the other computer I have without a problem.

    As far as the statement you copied from Incredimail, not sure why you did that, what's it matter, they can have anything, well they are not an ISP service, my stuff, does not go through their system, they get nothing of mine or control of anything unless I send it to them, everything I make on my own for my incredimail stays on my computer in my own program, so not sure why you copied and pasted that note from them.

    You could have the best program or game of any kind, hardly anyone would be having a problem with it, just working great, then along someone would come and not like it, or have problems installing or uninstalling it, and I have seen it happen, and the more people that use a popular program or game, the more that will enjoy it and the more that won't and the more that will have problems, either from their own inability to have a good running system or from the real program problems itself, and this is a popular program, used by a lot of people, that have no problems with it and enjoy it, therefore, also creating the issue of having a larger number of people than some other programs not liking it or having problems with it.

    I love Winzip, Winrar and a couple other zip programs, you could use anyone of them so suit your compression needs, all are great programs, yet I have run into many people that absolutely hate them, they say winzip, stinks, it won't work right, it won't install, it won't uninstall, I can't zip or rar anything, files get corrupted, it won't compress enough, it won't uncompress.

    The point being, you can't please everyone, even if you had the perfect program, someone will always either dislike it or have problems with it, I could enjoy a number of email programs, as there are several nice ones, I just happen to use some of the extra features this one provides, so I could be convinced someday of something more useful, you on the other hand, sound from your posts, like you are frustrated with incredimail or have a personal problem with it, if that's the case, well your just one of the few that has problems with it, like any other program or game on the market.

    :cool:

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