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  • Mar 16, 2014, 11:32 PM
    srivatsann
    401 k Direct rollover on international transfer
    Sorry for cross-posting in the taxes forum. I had posted in the retirement forum but no response so far.

    In 2012, I transferred from US to India and am working for the same company from India. Initially my employer's 401(k) plan administrator said that I cannot rollover 401(k) to IRA since I would be employed in the same company. They also mentioned that I won't be able to contribute to 401(k), cannot take loan as I won't be an US employee.

    After the transfer, 401(k) custodian called me and advised that I can rollover from 401(k) to IRA since I am no longer employed in the US and avail better investment options. So I did a direct rollover in 2013. I also did some early withdrawal in 2013 for meeting immediate financial requirements.

    Earlier this month, my company has informed that this rollover was allowed inadvertently and I should return the money that I rolled over to IRA. Since I did an early withdrawal from the IRA in 2013, I cannot return all that was rolled over.

    1) How will the amount I rolled over to IRA be treated? Would that be considered as a distribution?
    2) If that is a distribution, then would I owe tax + penalty for the entire distribution and hence pay higher taxes for 2013?
    3) If I have to pay tax for the entire rollover money, then will I be able to take the money out from my IRA custodian without having to pay extra tax? If I have to pay penalty and tax again for taking money from IRA, then it would amount to double tax + penalty.

    Thanks in advance
  • Mar 16, 2014, 11:41 PM
    AtlantaTaxExpert
    1) From a tax standpoint, the rollover was legal in my opinion. Hence, from the IRS' standpoint, it IS a valid rollover and will NOT be taxed as a distribution. Now, the COMPANY may have to pay a fine for allowing you to rollover the money, but that is NOT your concern.

    Taxes will be due on the early withdrawal you DID do, but NOT on the rollover.
  • Mar 17, 2014, 12:04 AM
    srivatsann
    Thanks for clarifying. I understand the taxes and penalty on early withdrawal.

    I got two messages from my company and they were contradicting each other. That confused me a lot. Now I understand the scenario well.

    Regards
  • Mar 17, 2014, 12:08 AM
    AtlantaTaxExpert
    Glad to help!

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