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  • Mar 30, 2007, 06:40 AM
    Gerisoa
    How to get on Blocked sites
    How to get on myspace at school?
  • Mar 30, 2007, 06:42 AM
    ScottGem
    You don't. Rather then repeat why I will just refer you to this thread:

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/intern...ool-77424.html
  • Mar 30, 2007, 06:48 AM
    Fr_Chuck
    Get your parents to call the principle and explain to them how this is unfair and that they believe you need to be doing a lot of non school work while at school.
  • May 31, 2007, 07:12 AM
    Gnosis
    I tried to explain how to get round this but was edited by Curlyben !!!
  • May 31, 2007, 07:14 AM
    Curlyben
    We here at AMHD cannot help you get around any sort of administrative restrictions imposed on a School, Work, or any other network not owned and operated by yourself. These restrictions can include (but are not limited to): Website Blocking policies, Software Installation policies, Email retention policies, Software Configuration policies, Network/Internet usage policies, Network Configuration policies, Forum or Chat Room Bans, Game Server Bans, or any other actions that are deemed "unauthorized" by the owners/administrators of the network in question. Any actions by members of AMHD that would be offered to help in this manner would directly violate the site's TOS
  • Jun 11, 2007, 04:24 PM
    kriskstar
    You know, don't answer this kid's question, but don't preach at them either.
  • Jun 11, 2007, 04:30 PM
    kriskstar
    Besides I don't think that's fair at all. Some kids get their work done earlier and all they want to do is get on there and check the messages from their friends. I think kids should get notes from parents saying its OK for the kids to go on the internet.
  • Jun 11, 2007, 06:15 PM
    ScottGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kriskstar
    you know, don't answer this kid's question, but don't preach at them either.

    You are missing the point here. Lets say you have a safe deposit box in a bank vault. You go into the vault and while there, you ask the attendant to also open up another box, not yours. Would you expect the attendant to do so or would you expect the attendant to call the police? That's the situation here. The school has set boundaries on what their computers can and can't be used for. They have the right to do so. Students do NOT have the right to try and bypass those controls.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kriskstar
    besides i don't think thats fair at all. some kids get their work done earlier and all they want to do is get on there and check the messages from their friends. i think kids should get notes from parents saying its ok for the kids to go on the internet.

    Fairness doesn't enter into it. Security and distraction are the issues. Sure some students do finish their work early and have valid free time. But that's not what school is for. Better to use that time for learning, they have their own time to socialize. For every student that has valid free time there are more students who will abuse the privilege.

    But there is another issue here and that's security. Do you have any clue how much time is wasted in dealing with malware? Any organization has the right to protect their systems from such malware rather then waste time clearing it out.
  • Jun 11, 2007, 06:45 PM
    kriskstar
    There is a big difference between stealing a safety deposit box, and accessing a blocked site, there are ways around the blocking that don't involve breaking into to anything or changing anything on the schools policy.

    Jesus christ "But that's not what school is for. Better to use that time for learning, they have their own time to socialize." not only is school a place to learn, but ummmmm talk to any child psych and they will tell you that it's also an important place to learn socialization.
  • Jun 11, 2007, 06:50 PM
    NeedKarma
    When you become a sys admin like some of us are you'll understand. It's about our network, security and maintaining the policies of the organization.
  • Jun 11, 2007, 06:52 PM
    kriskstar
    Whatever its unfair that some honor students who might earn the right to do something fun at school on their free time, cant, and its because of a system administrator that thinks he has power
  • Jun 11, 2007, 07:02 PM
    NeedKarma
    Why doesn't the honour student request access from the administration?
    The sys admin is just doing a job, it isn't personal at all. And blocking sites in a work network is becoming very, very common. You can visit any site you want from home.
  • Jun 12, 2007, 05:22 AM
    ScottGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kriskstar
    there is a big difference between stealing a safety deposit box, and accessing a blocked site, there are ways around the blocking that dont involve breaking into to anything or changing anything on the schools policy.

    You just don't get it do you? The school has set a rule. Trying to bypass the blocks is breaking the rules. Trying to get around that rule is unethical and wrong.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kriskstar
    jesus christ "But that's not what school is for. Better to use that time for learning, they have their own time to socialize." not only is school a place to learn, but ummmmm talk to any child psych and they will tell you that it's also an important place to learn socialization.

    I agree that socialization is an important part of school, but there are times and places. What can possibly be so important about checking your MySpace page that can't wait?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kriskstar
    whatever its unfair that some honor students who might earn the right to do something fun at school on their free time, cant, and its because of a system administrator that thinks he has power

    Who said life was fair? Maybe it is unfair for the honor students to have privileges taken away because of the abuses of others. In that case your ire should be directed at those whose abuse of the access has resulted in system admins being forced to protect their systems. Instead of wrongly getting upset at them (note I deleted your abusive note, its not appropriate here). System Admins don't "think" they have power, they DO have power. But more than that they have a responsibility, a responsibility to make sure the system is up and running and available to all. You need to grow up a bit and understand about responsibility.
  • Jun 12, 2007, 05:33 AM
    iAMfromHuntersBar
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kriskstar
    ... talk to any child psych and they will tell you that it's also an important place to learn socialization.

    Yeah, socialising with other human beings in a real-time environment! I doubt any child psychologist would tell you that a child would benefit more greatly from sitting on myspace than schoolwork!

    And if you're an honour student, who is finishing your work early, your teacher's should be giving you extra work so you can further excel yourself! I doubt a honour student would WANT to spend the school day sat on myspace anyway!

    If you got caught doing this at work, you'd get fired... if you got caught doing it online, you'd end up in prison! It's quite simple!





    Facebook is better anyway! :p
  • Jun 12, 2007, 05:44 AM
    NeedKarma
    Hunter,

    We've come full circle: Facebook was recently added to our company's restricted sites list. LOL! We use Websense here.
  • Jun 12, 2007, 05:59 AM
    iAMfromHuntersBar
    Ha ha, sorry, I was only kidding! I am a bit obsessed with Facebook when I'm at home though!

    We have a gateway at work that blocks... well... pretty much everything! It makes sense though, the amount of productivity a company/school loses because of their employees/students surfing an unbridled internet is ridiculous!

    They still haven't block this one th...
  • Jun 12, 2007, 06:00 AM
    benn11
    Guys,

    If the website is blocked by either the school or the place you work is probably for your benefit and that of the school or institution.

    Get internet at home then you can browse how ever you want to...
  • Jun 12, 2007, 06:09 AM
    iAMfromHuntersBar
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by iAMfromHuntersBar
    ... the amount of productivity a company/school loses because of their employees/students surfing an unbridled internet is ridiculous!

    Ok, I knew it was bad, but I didn't realise it was THIS bad;

    Web Security, Internet Filtering and Internet Security Software - Websense, Inc.

    What's Next: Stupid Productivity Tricks, Productivity/Time Management Article - Inc. Article

    That's insane!

    **edit**

    Loving the term "cyber-slacking"

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