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  • Nov 6, 2013, 04:35 AM
    tomder55
    The People's Republic of New York City... Detroit here we come.
    NYC elected their 1st Democrat mayor in 20 years ,and their first ever commie mayor.
    Oh de Blasio couches his philosophy in words like 'progressive path " .But make no mistake... he travelled to the Soviet Union as a student... he spent some time working for the Sandanistas in Nicaragua... he even had his honeymoon in Cuba in violation of the U.S. travel ban.. He's a commie.

    Quote:

    "The challenges we face have been decades in the making, and the problems we set out to address will not be solved overnight. But make no mistake: The people of this city have chosen a progressive path. "
    Bill de Blasio wins mayor’s race in New York, ushering in new era of liberal governance - The Washington Post
    And New York thought the banning of large sodas was over the top. They ain't seen nuthin yet. This guy makes nanny Bloomy look like one of our Founding Fathers!
    NYC is Detroit with Wall Street . Expect to see capital flight out of the city to accelerate . Let's see how de Blasio manages the city when he doesn't have the teet of the financial companies to suck on.
  • Nov 6, 2013, 05:18 AM
    speechlesstx
    Somehow I doubt most voters understand what they're getting when someone promises them a progressive path.
  • Nov 6, 2013, 05:33 AM
    joypulv
    'NYC is Detroit with Wall Street?'
    Just looking at real estate in NYC says no comparison. And it's a lot more than Wall Street. It is theater and museums and schools and restaurants and international cachet. It's everything you could want packed tightly around an enormous park. It's always been in the top 5 of the world. The fact that the boroughs represent a big part doesn't change that. They are treated like separate cities, unlike downtown Detroit vs it's sprawl. And many parts of the boroughs have their own little gentrification going on, unlike miles of wasteland in sprawling Detroit.
    Mayors, like presidents and governors and dog catchers, get to rule for 4 years. The tide rises, the tide falls.
  • Nov 6, 2013, 05:53 AM
    tomder55
    This guy will make the people of NYC long for the bad ole days of Dinkens . Expect the murder rate to soar once he abandons 'stop and frisk'.

    Take Wall Street money away and the whole financing of the city collapses . It's like taking the auto industry from Detroit... and make no mistake ;just as the auto industry started to move to friendlier confines due to local government policies ,so will the financial markets.
  • Nov 6, 2013, 09:40 AM
    smearcase
    Would you seriously contend that a politician who is against unconstitutional gun and search policies is a Communist? Sounds to me like you have it backwards.
  • Nov 6, 2013, 10:59 AM
    tomder55
    Sorry ;SCOTUS already decided stop and frisk is constitutional (Terry v. Ohio).
  • Nov 6, 2013, 12:14 PM
    smearcase
    Have communists, fascists, etc traditionally been supportive of gun owner rights and have communists, etc had a reluctance to search law abiding citizens?
    Your liberal philosophy regarding your support of NYC's gun/search policies because the gun violence rates have come down (for whatever reason), contradicts Ben Franklin's "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" quote and show your belief that the end justifies the means.
    Your faith in the supremes is commendable but you don't seem to agree with their obamacare ruling and many other supreme court rulings over the years. What makes you so sure the ruling you referred to was so right on?
  • Nov 6, 2013, 05:33 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smearcase View Post
    Have communists, fascists, etc traditionally been supportive of gun owner rights and have communists, etc had a reluctance to search law abiding citizens?
    Your liberal philosophy regarding your support of NYC's gun/search policies because the gun violence rates have come down (for whatever reason), contradicts Ben Franklin's "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" quote and show your belief that the end justifies the means.
    Your faith in the supremes is commendable but you don't seem to agree with their obamacare ruling and many other supreme court rulings over the years. What makes you so sure the ruling you referred to was so right on?

    The Founding Fathers, knew that freedom could not be maintained without law and order and that the rule of law was the lifeblood of the American social order and basic civil liberties.. I take the 4th amendment seriously and would not approve of a stop and frisk policy that wasn't based on 'probable cause' . Anyone who thinks the cops are randomly performing the policy is mistaken.
    As for SCOTUS ,there is no more a critic of them on these boards than I . Still ,they do make some rulings correct.
    I have vivid memories of the bad ole days of NYC in the 1970s .Back then the Bernie Getz's of the city had no choice but to pack heat, legally or otherwise, to secure their own safety when taking a simple subway ride. Back then you risked property damage to your car ,or a mugging for not giving money to someone who wiped your windshield with dirty water . Back then you took your life in your hands wandering down the MAIN intersection of the city .
    These days you risk an encounter with someone in an Elmo costume or a cowboy in under ware. The difference ? For 20 years the city government has taken a tough stand on lawlessness.
  • Nov 6, 2013, 08:37 PM
    paraclete
    So Tom if I read you correctly your witchhunt, oh sorry, McCarthiest commie hunt has turned up someone more commie than BO, who was until now your leading contender.

    You certainly haven't left your fifties roots, with a commie under every bed. I once travelled on a Russian ship, does that make me a commie? The experience enlightened me,I discovered the russian people weren't as represented by american propaganda, they were just like the rest of us. You certainly do need to leave your New York bastion of BullShlt and see the world
  • Nov 7, 2013, 03:56 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    So Tom if I read you correctly your witchhunt, oh sorry, McCarthiest commie hunt has turned up someone more commie than BO, who was until now your leading contender.

    You certainly haven't left your fifties roots, with a commie under every bed. I once travelled on a Russian ship, does that make me a commie? The experience enlightened me,I discovered the russian people weren't as represented by american propaganda, they were just like the rest of us. You certainly do need to leave your New York bastion of BullShlt and see the world

    Did you go to Nicaragua to volunteer to work for the Sanadistas ?
  • Nov 7, 2013, 02:10 PM
    paraclete
    No that was a american thing, don't know much about south america excepting it is full of right wing dictators, the work of the US to subject the population
  • Nov 7, 2013, 02:21 PM
    talaniman
    Bring back Reagan! He would straighten out a communist haven like NY!
  • Nov 7, 2013, 02:24 PM
    paraclete
    Yes a little dose of Star Wars
  • Nov 7, 2013, 04:25 PM
    tomder55
    Lol the American left was freed from taking the defensive when the Soviet Union collapsed. Since then they have marched full speed ahead with their own brand of "progressivism" unshackled from the association with all the evil of the communist extremes.

    This is not me... this is the Slimes reporting .

    Bill de Blasio, then 26, went to Nicaragua to help distribute food and medicine in the middle of a war between left and right. But he returned with something else entirely: a vision of the possibilities of an unfettered leftist government.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/23/ny...anted=all&_r=0

    Mr. de Blasio, who studied Latin American politics at Columbia and was conversational in Spanish, grew to be an admirer of Nicaragua's ruling Sandinista party

    And now he's the commie Mayor of NYC



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  • Nov 8, 2013, 02:43 AM
    Tuttyd
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post

    And now he's the commie Mayor of NYC

    That's alight Tom, we elected a commie Prime Minister and we voted her out in favour of a right wing Prime Minister. That's what democracies do from time to time. People sometimes pick the wrong person and then they replace them with what is seen to be the the right person.

    I mean he was voted in.. wasn't he?
  • Nov 8, 2013, 02:58 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tuttyd View Post
    That's alight Tom, we elected a commie Prime Minister and we voted her out in favour of a right wing Prime Minister. That's what democracies do from time to time. People sometimes pick the wrong person and then they replace them with what is seen to be the the right person.

    I mean he was voted in.. wasn't he?

    Tutt you have to understand, in america democracy means the election of the right wing philosophy, has done since the civil war. The fact that we could throw out a communist leader doesn't mean squatt to them, they haven't succeeded in doing it, reason; they have too many "poor" people, the type of people who elected a socialist leader in Venezuela. They exist in increasing numbers in the US and they are afraid of them
  • Nov 8, 2013, 05:41 AM
    talaniman
    I think it's an error to think the far right is growing just because they are loud, as the evidence shows that it's the opposite. Young conservatives are often overlooked because they are not loud, or even as extreme.
  • Nov 8, 2013, 05:51 AM
    tomder55
    The good thing is just like the Dinky Dinkens days ;it will come crashing down on the "progressives " and NYC will again vote for common sense conservative principles (sans the nanny Bloomy excesses) .
  • Nov 8, 2013, 06:12 AM
    paraclete
    Dream on
  • Nov 9, 2013, 02:54 AM
    Tuttyd
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The good thing is just like the Dinky Dinkens days ;it will come crashing down on the "progressives " and NYC will again vote for common sense conservative principles (sans the nanny Bloomy excesses) .

    Well then, what are you complaining about?

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