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  • Aug 21, 2013, 05:45 AM
    cbear12345
    What are the age of these bones?
    On my assignment I am really struggling with this question...

    Bones A and B are x and y thousand years old respectively. A Geiger Counter confirms that Bone A contains 3 times as much C-14 as Bone B. What can you say about the ages of Bones A and B. Justify your answer

    The equation used is

    a=15.3 x 0.886^t

    Thank you in advanced
  • Aug 21, 2013, 06:00 AM
    ebaines
    You can set up an equation for the ratio of C14 for bone A and bone B:



    Now you can manipulate this using logarithms to get an expression for . Post back with what you find and we'll help if you get stuck.
  • Aug 21, 2013, 06:26 AM
    cbear12345
    I am not sure why you have the 3 awkwardly placed in that last line, like I know its times 3 but why is it there? Also do I use lo law and bring the ta and tb to the front?
    Thank you so much for your help
  • Aug 21, 2013, 06:47 AM
    ebaines
    The 3 isn't awkward - it's the ratio of C14 in Bone A (which I called "") to the amount in Bone B. Thus .
  • Aug 21, 2013, 06:51 AM
    cbear12345
    Oh okay, I understand
    So then where do I go from there?
  • Aug 21, 2013, 06:57 AM
    ebaines
    Hint: take the log of both sides of the equation.
  • Aug 21, 2013, 07:03 AM
    cbear12345
    I think I have it...
    I got the answer
    Ta/Tb=14.893

    Is that correct?
  • Aug 21, 2013, 07:12 AM
    ebaines
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cbear12345 View Post
    I think I have it....
    I got the answer
    Ta/Tb=14.893

    Is that correct?

    No, not correct. Please show us the steps you took to get this and we can see where you went wrong.
  • Aug 21, 2013, 07:14 AM
    cbear12345
    ln3=ln15.3(0.886)^ta / ln15.3(0.886)^tb
    ln3=ta13.5558/tb13.5558
    ln3 x 13.5558= ta/tb

    hope that makes sense
  • Aug 21, 2013, 07:20 AM
    ebaines
    First step is wrong. It's not true that



    Instead note that the 15.3 coefficients cancel out, and use the identity:

  • Aug 21, 2013, 07:33 AM
    cbear12345
    ahhh true
    so is it

    ln3=ta-tb
  • Aug 21, 2013, 07:45 AM
    ebaines
    Getting closer, but you left out the 0.866 factor...

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