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  • Jul 25, 2013, 06:27 AM
    excon
    Obama 4.0
    Hello:

    I'm not really happy with him.. There's a LOT he could be doing and SHOULD be doing. I'd really like to discuss that. But, instead of THAT conversation, I find that I have to defend him against all the STUPID crap the righty's invent, like birth certificates, and communism..

    If you want to talk about his REAL failures, and NOT him being a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, post.

    excon
  • Jul 25, 2013, 06:31 AM
    paraclete
    Well obviously he was a muslim born someplace else but you never going to know cause the boy has done it well risen through the ranks which is what that place is all about, well some people think so anyway
  • Jul 25, 2013, 06:42 AM
    excon
    Hello clete:

    Next!

    excon
  • Jul 25, 2013, 07:09 AM
    speechlesstx
    So you watched the speech.

    Quote:

    They'll talk about government assistance for the poor, despite the fact that they've already cut early education for vulnerable kids, they've already cut insurance for people who've lost their jobs through no fault of their own. Or they'll bring up Obamacare — this is tried and true — despite the fact that our businesses have created nearly twice as many jobs in this recovery as businesses had at the same point in the last recovery, when there was no Obamacare. That's what we've been fighting for, but with an endless parade of distractions, political posturing and phony scandals, Washington has taken its eye off the ball. And I am here to say this needs to stop. This needs to stop.
    What's really beginning to disturb me most is he doesn't take any of this stuff seriously. And neither do you. But anyway, instead of us talking about his faulres, how about talking up his successes?
  • Jul 25, 2013, 07:25 AM
    excon
    Hello Steve:
    Quote:

    What's really beginning to disturb me most is he doesn't take any of this stuff seriously. And neither do you.
    Couple things..

    I wasn't being facetious when I said that if my president is a crook, I want to know about it.. If my government is corrupt, I want to know about it.. But, you're right. I'm not disturbed by unfounded allegations for which there is NO proof.

    I AM disturbed about a LACK of a Middle East policy. I AM disturbed about unemployment. I AM disturbed about broken bridges and crumbling infrastructure. I AM disturbed about the widening disparity between the middle class and the rich. I AM disturbed about the power of the banks. I AM disturbed about a congress who wants to SHUT down government instead of make it work.

    Finally, I'm disturbed about Obama's INABILITY to get anything through congress. Yes, the Republicans are intransigents. But, I BELIEVE Obama could have broken through. I don't think he knew HOW to do it. Maybe if he had spent more time in the Senate.

    But, if you tell me that he didn't kill Bin Laden, and he DID kill our ambassador in Ben Ghazi, I'll holler NEXT to you too.

    Excon
  • Jul 25, 2013, 07:37 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    with an endless parade of distractions, political posturing and phony scandals
    Here is the emperor May 15

    "I've reviewed the Treasury Department watchdog's report, and the misconduct that it uncovered is inexcusable," he said. "It's inexcusable, and Americans are right to be angry about it, and I am angry about it. I will not tolerate this kind of behavior in any agency, but especially in the IRS, given the power that it has and the reach that it has into all of our lives. And as I said earlier, it should not matter what political stripe you're from -- the fact of the matter is, is that the IRS has to operate with absolute integrity. The government generally has to conduct itself in a way that is true to the public trust. That's especially true for the IRS."
  • Jul 25, 2013, 07:39 AM
    excon
    Hello tom:

    Next!

    excon
  • Jul 25, 2013, 07:43 AM
    speechlesstx
    Granting Holder executive privilege over Fast and Furious, in which people died and are still dying, should piqué your curiosity. Sending out his minions with known false talking points, then standing before the UN two weeks later with those same false talking points, should make you suspicious. The IRS admitting the unlawful targeting of certain groups should pi$$ you off no matter how high it goes. But none of this is evidence of anything that demands answers?

    Anyway, you're right, he hasn't had many successes.
  • Jul 25, 2013, 07:46 AM
    tomder55
    See what I mean... I think he is doing all these community organizing speeches about the economy to distract from the fact that he is running an incompetent and corrupt Presidency. I heard his address yesterday ,with all his blame shifting and I said... aint nothing there... NEXT
  • Jul 25, 2013, 07:48 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:
    Quote:

    But none of this is evidence of anything that demands answers?
    You're right. It's NOT evidence.. It's right wingers flapping their gums.

    Next!

    Excon
  • Jul 25, 2013, 07:55 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Granting Holder executive privilege over Fast and Furious, in which people died and are still dying, should pique your curiosity. Sending out his minions with known false talking points, then standing before the UN two weeks later with those same false talking points, should make you suspicious. The IRS admitting the unlawful targeting of certain groups should pi$$ you off no matter how high it goes. But none of this is evidence of anything that demands answers?

    Anyway, you're right, he hasn't had many successes.

    Speaking of the Holder Justice Dept... he made a speech in Philly yesterday where he basically tells SCOTUS to stuff it .Even though SCOTUS found preclearance for voting changes unconstitutional ;he is planning on forcing Texas and other states to still comply with the provision of the Voting Rights Act.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/26/us...e-us.html?_r=0

    The emperor is running a rogue regime.
  • Jul 25, 2013, 08:08 AM
    speechlesstx
    As I said, you aren't taking it seriously. The only reason is it isn't a Republican president.
  • Jul 25, 2013, 08:10 AM
    excon
    Hello again, tom:
    Quote:

    The emperor is running a rogue regime.
    Nahhh.. You didn't read the important parts..
    Quote:

    Even as Congress considers updates to the Voting Rights Act in light of the court’s ruling, we plan, in the meantime, to fully utilize the law’s remaining sections to subject states to preclearance as necessary. My colleagues and I are determined to use every tool at our disposal to stand against such discrimination wherever it is found.
    Ain't nothing rogue about enforcing the law. Say goodby to the rush to suppress the vote, I mean voter ID.

    When I spoke about Obama not DOING anything, THIS is something he DOING, and it's the RIGHT thing.

    Excon
  • Jul 25, 2013, 08:13 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Ain't nothing rogue about enforcing the law.
    SCOTUS said preapproval was unconstitutional . Holder is ignoring it . He like the emperor have become laws unto themselves. This isn't the 1st time they've picked and chose which laws they'd enforce.. or not .
  • Jul 25, 2013, 08:14 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:
    Quote:

    As I said, you aren't taking it seriously. The only reason is it isn't a Republican president.
    I don't know how many times you want me to say it, but the ONLY reason is there's no PROOF. It's not difficult.

    Excon
  • Jul 25, 2013, 08:49 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:
    I dunno how many times you want me to say it, but the ONLY reason is there's no PROOF. It's not difficult.

    excon

    I get it, you lefties want to convict a guy who was found innocent at trial and exonerate a president before the investigation is even complete.
  • Jul 25, 2013, 09:46 AM
    tomder55
    The emperor... a legend in his own mind...

    "It's interesting, in the run-up to this speech, a lot of reporters say that, well, Mr. President, these are all good ideas, but some of you've said before; some of them sound great, but you can't get those through Congress. Republicans won't agree with you,"
    Reporters like Chris Matthews ?
    He said Repubics agree with him too but are afraid to say so. What he should tell them is 'hurry up and pass them so you can find out what's in them' .
  • Jul 26, 2013, 10:10 AM
    speechlesstx
    If you hadn't heard (and you should have because it is the official White House response now), Obama 4.0 called these scandals ex doesn't want to talk about "phony" in his big speech the other day.

    One mother disagrees...

    Quote:

    Mother of slain Benghazi victim Sean Smith: ‘My son is dead. How could that be phony?’

    The mother of a Benghazi victim is furious about the new White House strategy of calling the terrorist attack and many other scandals plaguing the Obama administration “fake” or “phony.”

    Patricia Smith, mother of Sean Smith, who was slain in the September 11, 2012 terrorist attack, lashed out on “Your World” on the Fox News Channel about that terminology.

    President Obama has never revealed what, if anything, he was doing while workers at the Benghazi embassy were urgently requesting support, nor has the administration explained why no forces were sent to protect the embassy. The administration also denied the attack was a terrorist incident, claiming it was a spontaneous protest against an obscure YouTube trailer for a film that may or may not exist.

    “I don’t believe him anymore,” Smith said. “He’s wrong. My son is dead. How could that be phony?”

    According to Smith, she has been given no answers about what happened that night. She said the administration told her she “didn’t need to know.”

    “When I was there at the ceremony of the welcoming of the caskets, both Obama and Hillary and Biden and all of the other ones, all promised me they would get back to me to tell me what happened,” Smith said. “I begged them. Please, I must know what happened with my son. How come this happened? They all promised me they would get back to me. You know, not one of them, not one of them ever got back to me in any way shape or form — not by a letter, not by anything other than I got a memo stating that I didn’t need to know because I was not part of the immediate family.”

    Smith made one last plea to the Obama administration explaining her desire for answers.

    “How can I tell you?” Smith added. “I mean, it is wrong. It is not phony. It is not fake. My son is dead, and why is he dead? All I am waiting for even to this day is just someone to get back to me and tell me what happened. Why did Hillary do as she did? Why was there no security there when there was supposed to be? Who was the general that called back the troops when they were going to help?”
    It's easy Ms. Smith, what's phony here is the administration, from the top down.
  • Jul 26, 2013, 10:16 AM
    tomder55
    Justice for Sean Smith!! Justice for Ambassador Chris Stevens!! Justice for Glen Doherty!! Justice for Tyrone S. Woods!! No justice No peace!!
  • Jul 26, 2013, 10:20 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    It's easy Ms. Smith, what's phony here is the administration, from the top down.

    Why weren't these scandals?

    January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

    June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al-Qaida attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

    October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of “Bali Bombings.” No fatalities.

    February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

    May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al-Qaida terrorists storm the diplomatic compound killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

    July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

    December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al-Qaida terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

    March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name “David Foy.” This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what’s considered American soil.)

    September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting “Allahu akbar” storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

    January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

    March 18, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaida-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

    July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

    September 17, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

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