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  • Jun 26, 2013, 03:13 AM
    paraclete
    Ding Dong the witch is dead
    Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead

    The Big Red Box aka red Julia, aka the little red fox, aka Juliar is dead ousted by the Labor caucus, the same caucus that ousted Krudd three years ago. She will go into obscurity and it is hoped Krudd will follow quickly after and as I said months ago Bill Shorten proved to be the king maker, his defection was the last straw.The faceless men have struck again

    Don't you just love true democracy
  • Jun 26, 2013, 03:24 AM
    tomder55
    Great news ! Confine Red Julia to a backbench . It's justice that she should be cast aside the same way she seized control . Your politics has an element of the Roman Senate in it.
  • Jun 26, 2013, 05:39 AM
    paraclete
    Yes this could be said to be the night of the long knives even. Krudd the reluctant Antony and Shorten Brutus. Krudd has indeed been both Caesar and Antony. Juliar will not stay in the backbench, or I think even sit there, tomorrow is the last sitting day of this parliament. Juliar has been consigned to history and will not contest the next election. We have little place for former Prime Ministers in our system, they might be trotted out now and again but usually they are a liability. Krudd was an exception and proved a liability for Gillard. But this is truly a godsend and poetic justice. Two sitting Prime Ministers in three years unseated, a mile stone
  • Jun 26, 2013, 09:43 PM
    paraclete
    Dead but won't lie down. Shorten's role is confirmed in this piece
    Blood on Julia Gillard's guillotine | Kevin Rudd Australia PM
  • Jun 27, 2013, 05:37 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    She will see that now. She will know that being betrayed by Bill Shorten was far preferable to being pulverised by the public, creating the worst kind of precedent for the first female prime minister.
    You see what I mean ? If she sucks at PM ,why should there be special considerations just because she is the 1st female PM . (of course we have a similar issue here )
  • Jun 27, 2013, 06:04 AM
    talaniman
    Except our first got re-elected for another term by a majority.
  • Jun 27, 2013, 06:11 AM
    tomder55
    Exactly my point . Treated with kid gloves on many issue.
  • Jun 27, 2013, 06:31 AM
    talaniman
    The right has not treated him with kid gloves at all and I imagine neither did Gillard's detractors either. Besides being "firsts" the situations are vastly different. The governments are different.
  • Jun 27, 2013, 06:36 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    The right has not treated him with kid gloves at all and I imagine neither did Guillaird's detractors either.

    Not talking about the right.. I'm talking about the left and the compliant press that wouldn't tolerate half of the things he pulls had he not been a "1st " .
  • Jun 27, 2013, 06:41 AM
    talaniman
    The narrative on the left is mostly about what you guy were doing and hollering about.
  • Jun 27, 2013, 06:46 AM
    tomder55
    Exactly ,meanwhile it took until after his reelection for the left to begin to pay attention to what he's been up to.
  • Jun 27, 2013, 07:23 AM
    talaniman
    I think Tom you have equated the rights scandal mongering with the lefts debating a course around you. Because we on this side of the divide see the gathering of facts to come to a conclusion more logical than looking for facts to support your conclusion.

    I know you would love to think the right wing strategy rock throwing and obstruction is working in your favor, but the harm to ordinary citizens is pissing us off. Now go redraw your maps to make yourself relevant as we run up to yet another election cycle.

    Discrimination will no longer be tolerated.
  • Jun 27, 2013, 07:28 AM
    tomder55
    If I'm playing any part in obstructing his radical agenda then I'm a proud participant .
  • Jun 27, 2013, 03:17 PM
    paraclete
    I'll come back to my piece, like Caesar, Gillard was "assassinated" by her own on the left, by those who had put her in power. The right had made her deficiencies glaringly obvious but they didn't "assassinate" her. There is parallel in that despite the obstructionism of the right it is the left who will also decide Obama's fate
  • Jun 27, 2013, 10:40 PM
    paraclete
    We are a merciless lot, no doubt about it

    Gillard wax works stunt

    Not content with seeing off the most disliked Prime Minister since Ming the Merciless, she now becomes a joke for the masses, with an effigy joining a dole queue, ah well I suppose it is only poetic justice, her reign has been a very bad joke. We can add this to the film of her knitting
  • Jun 28, 2013, 05:48 AM
    tomder55
    I just voted for 'Brilliant political satire.' . Giles Hardie needs to develop a sense of humor... or is Red Julia untouchable as a source of humor because she's a "1st " .
    I remember some of the John Stewart types here saying that it was hard to make jokes about the emperor too.
  • Jun 28, 2013, 06:51 AM
    paraclete
    Here's a thought we expect it to take only a day for the press to forget to remind us the PM is a man
  • Jun 30, 2013, 05:33 PM
    paraclete
    Well the week has gone and we have moved on, Juliar is a distant memory as Krudd moves to rewrite, or is it re-enact, history. Already his edict has fallen on Juliar's Gonski reforms with the word Gonski considered confusing to the electorate. We have talked of nothing but for the last year and he thinks we are confused. I wonder how confused he thinks the people of his electorate are as they face a 22% hike in power costs today courtesy of another of Juliar's programs. If he could he would unwind the Carbon Tax but not being an emperor his hands are a little tied, for some peculiar reason he must consult the EU ??????????, guess what we are going to have carbon trading scheme. And, yes, he is going to unwind the mining tax, because, surprise, surprise, it did not achieve the purpose he intended for it.

    With Juliar's cabinet gone and many resigning from politics to keep her company in the wilderness, I'm just wondering who is going to do the work between now and the much awaited election? With Krudd's powerhouse reputation I expect he can do it all himself

    Now I expect that like King Kanute, King Krudd is going to stand on the shore of Indonesia this week and command the tide of boats to reverse
  • Jun 30, 2013, 06:03 PM
    tomder55
    I hear Red Julia is going to retire so she can knit full time.
  • Jun 30, 2013, 06:47 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I hear Red Julia is going to retire so she can knit full time.

    That's the rumour, I expect Krudd will join her presently, but I think Juliar and Tim will go tripping the light fantastic on Juliar's lifetime gold pass, who knows, if Krudd wins the election she could wind up as an ambassador to Russia where she can join her communist mates sampling the northern delights of Siberia

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