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  • Apr 29, 2013, 05:46 AM
    tableclocks
    Can I use 14-2 for a 3 way switch
    3 way switchs for 2 lights in the garage.. can I let the ground wire run through the systen as the common.. and black tape up the ends ? And the blk and what as the travlers... tks richars.. I'll be using 12-2 cause I have 12-2...
    I have about a 30 foot run from switch to switch...
    Follow up... or can I use the ground as a travler.. black taped.. leaveing it in the main jacket ? Tks...
  • Apr 29, 2013, 06:16 AM
    hfcarson
    Good Lord... you're kidding?
    It's not just bad practice, it's also against the electrical code and a potential
    Landmine for the next guy...

    Electricity is not something to be creative with. Learn the rules and do it right!
  • Apr 29, 2013, 06:20 AM
    ma0641
    Now that's a different approach. So when you open the box, the bare wire will always be hot. And anything it touches will be hot. Please rethink your solution.
  • Apr 29, 2013, 06:29 AM
    donf
    No!

    If your area is using the 2008 or lower edition of the NEC, you will need #14/3 w/ground for three way switches.

    If your area has adopted the 2011 of the NEC, you will need #14/4 with ground. The 2011 edition requires that you have a grounded conductor (Neutral) at the switch outlet, in case you might want to use a specialty switch.

    Black, would go to the common post. Red and Blue (re-tasked as Red) would be the travelers. White (capped off) would be the required Neutral.
  • Apr 29, 2013, 07:58 AM
    tableclocks
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by donf View Post
    No!

    If your area is using the 2008 or lower edition of the NEC, you will need #14/3 w/ground for three way switches.

    If your area has adopted the 2011 of the NEC, you will need #14/4 with ground. The 2011 edition requires that you have a grounded conductor (Neutral) at the switch outlet, in case you might want to use a specialty switch.

    Black, would go to the common post. Red and Blue (re-tasked as Red) would be the travelers. White (capped off) would be the required Neutral.

    Don't know what my code is... however... I'll get some 14-2 and run two lengths of it so I have 2 whs n 2 blks and can one off... tks... richard
  • Apr 29, 2013, 08:01 AM
    hfcarson
    Be aware, you are still doing this wrong...
  • Apr 29, 2013, 08:06 AM
    donf
    Rich,

    Do not use 14/2! At a minimum use 14/3. Using 14/2 will cause wiring problems.

    The price for 14/3 is pretty close to 14/2. However, personally, I would use 14/4.

    The trade off in ease of installation is worth the few dollars difference over 14/2.
  • Apr 29, 2013, 09:08 AM
    tableclocks
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hfcarson View Post
    be aware, you are still doing this wrong....

    OK... I c a 250 ft roll of 14-3 on crigs list for 45.00
  • Apr 29, 2013, 09:43 PM
    creahands
    I don't know in your area, but Home depot near me will sell any size wire any length. They cut it off a large roll.

    Chuck
  • Apr 30, 2013, 06:15 PM
    hkstroud
    Don,

    See Article 404.2 Switch Connections

    A. Three-way and Four-way Switch

    Exception.

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