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  • Apr 19, 2013, 03:40 PM
    rcharles12
    Power cord
    Can you run a power strip along a window seal.with a metal frame in a commercial building
  • Apr 19, 2013, 04:53 PM
    Stumpjumper123
    Well kind of, you can if it is self contained (it only has a power cord to hook up), if is an employable model meaning you need to establish a ground for the strip this could get complicated, since window generally are not an established ground, they could be if they auto shade but most people don't have these. You could muddle a ground to it off one of your outlets, but that is not good advise. If your power strip is not self contained find an electric guy to do the job.
  • Apr 19, 2013, 05:36 PM
    rcharles12
    Well the power cord is multiplug surge protector, it has 6 outlets to run a computer an printers, I know some what Texas code the window must be grounded to run any type of 110 or 220
  • Apr 19, 2013, 05:38 PM
    stanfortyman
    Quote:

    I know some what Texas code the window must be grounded to run any type of 110 or 220
    HUH?? Is the wiring attached to the window?

    I know many inspectors hate power strips in commercial settings. Do you have regular safety inspections?
  • Apr 19, 2013, 05:53 PM
    Stumpjumper123
    A surge protector or a power strip?
    A surge protector can be placed anywhere... well almost they don't do well in water but otherwise they are fine.
    A power strip is something totally different!
    Texas code is the gold standard you should have no metal exterior parts ungrounded and your windows should be grounded.
    (Texas takes a soil sample around the 54"stave for urea and ammonia) just an inside joke for those that know how this works)
  • Apr 19, 2013, 05:54 PM
    rcharles12
    No I have the cord running on the floor along the bottom window seal, my boss says he wants the cord in panduit or a two tape with a eye holder deal

    I know many inspectors hate power strips in commercial settings. Do you have regular safety inspections?[/QUOTE]
  • Apr 19, 2013, 05:56 PM
    rcharles12
    It's a surge protector
    A surge protector can be placed anywhere... well almost they don't do well in water but otherwise they are fine.
    A power strip is something totally different!
    Texas code is the gold standard you should have no metal exterior parts ungrounded and your windows should be grounded.
    (Texas takes a soil sample around the 54"stave for urea and ammonia) just an inside joke for those that know how this works)[/QUOTE]
  • Apr 19, 2013, 05:57 PM
    rcharles12
    It's a surge protector I believe
  • Apr 19, 2013, 06:10 PM
    Stumpjumper123
    If the boss wants it in panduit just do it super simple cover. Cover the cord and staple it down and use some construction adhesive for the ends (Not to tight as you will have to replace the china junk at some point and the panduit will have to come off to do it)
  • Apr 19, 2013, 06:13 PM
    rcharles12
    Thanks every one fire Marshall coming back to inspect an don't want get popped for anything else
  • Apr 19, 2013, 06:23 PM
    stanfortyman
    You cannot staple, secure or cover a cord in any way. Especially in a commercial setting.
  • Apr 20, 2013, 04:47 AM
    stanfortyman
    Thanks for the link in the negative comment left for me. Why not post it here so folks will know what you are suggestion. Panduit Pan-Way Surface Raceways for Commercial and Residential Environments

    Next, get a clue about what you are talking about. Most of what you linked is a raceway system that is used for conductors and cables, not cords. There is a difference.
    None of those are rated or legal to hide or protect temporary cords. The NEC is your authority here, not the company. Also, a plastic covering is not osha approved for protection.

    I may have been a bit extreme by saying they cannot be covered in any way, but basically flexible cord cannot be attached to the structure in any way.

    This is your guideline:

    400.8 Uses Not Permitted.

    Unless specifically permitted in 400.7, flexible cords and cables shall not be used for the following:

    (1) As a substitute for the fixed wiring of a structure

    (2) Where run through holes in walls, structural ceilings, suspended ceilings, dropped ceilings, or floors

    (3) Where run through doorways, windows, or similar openings

    (4) Where attached to building surfaces

    Exception to (4): Flexible cord and cable shall be permitted to be attached to building surfaces in accordance with the provisions of 368.56(B) (Does not apply here in the least BTW)

    (5) Where concealed by walls, floors, or ceilings or located above suspended or dropped ceilings

    (6) Where installed in raceways, except as otherwise permitted in this Code See related ROP ROC

    (7) Where subject to physical damage
  • Apr 20, 2013, 05:09 AM
    rcharles12
    Sir I didn't say any thing negative just looking for the right advise, been doing maint for over 20 years, when asked to run 110 volts in panduit an attach it to window
    Coomon sense said that was not good, I suggested a power pole from the ceiling down my boss is a complete idiot an said no
    Unless specifically permitted in 400.7, flexible cords and cables shall not be used for the following:

    (1) As a substitute for the fixed wiring of a structure

    (2) Where run through holes in walls, structural ceilings, suspended ceilings, dropped ceilings, or floors

    (3) Where run through doorways, windows, or similar openings

    (4) Where attached to building surfaces

    Exception to (4): Flexible cord and cable shall be permitted to be attached to building surfaces in accordance with the provisions of 368.56(B) (Does not apply here in the least BTW)

    (5) Where concealed by walls, floors, or ceilings or located above suspended or dropped ceilings

    (6) Where installed in raceways, except as otherwise permitted in this Code See related ROP ROC

    (7) Where subject to physical damage[/I][/QUOTE]
  • Apr 20, 2013, 05:18 AM
    stanfortyman
    I was just posting generally. It was directed at the person who left me negative feedback, not that it matters. They left that link saying it was osha approved.

    If that person would like to comment to explain...
  • Apr 20, 2013, 12:50 PM
    Stumpjumper123
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stanfortyman View Post
    I was just posting generally. It was directed at the person who left me negative feedback, not that it matters. They left that link saying it was osha approved.

    If that person would like to comment to explain.....

    Whoa there big fella, Sorry, excuse my etiquette ignorance I think I fixed it.

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