Hello:

Gay marriage is now LEGAL in my state. Provisions were made for the clergy to refuse to do them if they felt uncomfortable, but can JUDGES refuse?

excon

If judges refused that would probably open up the county/city to a whole lot of bad press and lawsuits. My guess would be no.

Have not read the complete law on it, but normally no, they represent the government, not a religion and have to uphold the law.
Next a judge does not do a blessing of any kind and it is non religious in nature, so there should be no religious issues to it.

Hello Padre:

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it is non religious in nature, so there should be no religious issues to it.

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Yet, some of our judges think it is. I don't know HOW it's going to work out.

Is this the same issue as a pharmacist refusing to sell birth control or plan B? True, he's a PRIVATE businessman. But, he IS licensed by the state, and I'm sure the license requires certain standards to be met. At least, that's MY argument.

Excon

Not quite . A judge is the employee of the state. If he doesn't like it he can resign from his position . He is NOT running his own shop.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

not quite . A judge is the employee of the state. If he doesn't like it he can resign from his position . He is NOT running his own shop.

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Your symbol would be nicer if it was a Cincinnati Reds logo!

:)

If it's any consolation ;I was a fan of the Big Red Machine ;and got to see them whup the Mets at Shea.

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if it's any consolation ;I was a fan of the Big Red Machine ;and got to see them whup the Mets at Shea.

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Yeah that was an awesome team especially during the 76 World Series. Oops, sorry. I just love my team.

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Yeah that was an awesome team especially during the 76 World Series. Oops, sorry. I just love my team.

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No problem.. The Yanks were only learning how to win in 76 after a decade long slump.

Ok, not even understanding how we went from Gay marriage and judges to the 76 world series ?

It has about as much relevance as how we link marriage to a gay relationship

A gay relationship is no different than any human relationship, and marriage has its economic advantages that should be free to all.

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It has about as much relevance as how we link marriage to a gay relationship

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Excuse me?

No!

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no!

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I am not sure why you would make a statement like that without defending your position. But that is your choice.

I have no wish to start a discussion on the merits of marriage or gay relationships

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I have no wish to start a discussion on the merits of marriage or gay relationships

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Well then maybe you shouldn't have posted it then.

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I have no wish to start a discussion on the merits of marriage or gay relationships

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But that's the topic. And as long as money, property, and rights are concerned, then everyone should have access to the benefits of marriage, and risk of the consequences of divorce.

I mean everybody is hollering about THEIR rights to guns, abortions, and making money, but turn around and tell others they have no rights.

That's hypocrisy and BS.

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I mean everybody is hollering about THEIR rights to guns, abortions, and making money, but turn around and tell others they have no rights.

Thats hypocrisy and BS.

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But Tal I didn't tell anyone they had no rights I said I didn't see the relevance. I was responding to Chuck's comment about sport but as always some one has an axe to grind. I think my position on these issues is known, I neither need to explain it or justify it

That's why we use quotes to avoid confusion.