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  • Jan 16, 2013, 01:11 AM
    Jack17012
    How to show a sold equipment in a cash flow statement?
    Equipment costing $10,000 was sold for $5,000; book value of the equipment was $8,000.
    How to show it in a cash flow statement (indirect method)?
    balance sheet 2010/2009
    equipment 15,000/0
    depreciation 21,000/11,000
  • Jan 16, 2013, 04:51 AM
    paraclete
    Cash means cash so the proceeds of sale are included under capital flows
  • Jan 16, 2013, 05:24 AM
    Jack17012
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    cash means cash so the proceeds of sale are included under capital flows

    OK, should it look like this?
    Cash flow statement
    Equipment (28,000)
    Depreciation 12,000

    But what the name of the entry where should I write loss and received money?
  • Jan 16, 2013, 07:41 PM
    paraclete
    I'm not sure what you are discussing; cash flow statements, balance sheets or profit and loss statements. The data you have provided so far contributes to each.

    Cash Flow Statement refers to cash flows so depreciation plays no part in it, if the equiptment was purchased in a different accounting period it is not shown in the cash flow statement, if it is purchased in this period it is part of capital flows.

    loss on sale belongs in the Profit and Loss Statement, values carried forward belong in the Balance Sheet
  • Jan 17, 2013, 03:46 PM
    Fidget1
    Under the indirect method of preparing cashflows, the profit before tax must be adjusted to take into account non-cash items such as depreciation.

    So in your scenario there are adjustments required in the cashflow for the depreciation and the loss on disposal to arrive at the figure for net cashflows from operating activities.

    As a loss/gain on disposal is basically a depreciation adjustment, it is a non-cash item and must be added back to profit before tax for a loss on disposal, whilst a gain on disposal needs to be deducted.

    In your scenario, the equipment has a carrying value of $8,000, and was sold for $5,000. Therefore there is a loss on disposal of $3,000 - this must be added back to profit before tax.

    The overall depreciation charge for the year must also be added back to the profit before tax -possibly adjusted for the depreciation related to the sold equipment. However, I can't calculate that because the figures given in your opening post don't make sense. For example, there's a nil balance for equipment in the 2009 balance sheet.. yet an $11,000 depreciation charge as well. That is not possible. So you've either made a mistake when typing in the numbers here, or you've missed out required information from the question you're tackling.

    In the cashflow statement, the $5,000 cash proceeds from the sale will go under the heading of "Cash Flows from Investing Activities" as a cash inflow: Proceeds of sale of equipment.
  • Jan 17, 2013, 06:28 PM
    paraclete
    If you want to start in the P&L you adjust the profit, revenues and expenditures for depreciation, movement in receivables and payables, etc and you wind up with the operating side of the cash flow statement, you then have to consider financing flows and capital flows, these are obtained by examining movements recorded in the Balance Sheet

    The information contained in the original question was incomplete if you wanted to compile a cash flow statement
  • Jan 17, 2013, 11:47 PM
    Jack17012
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fidget1 View Post
    That is not possible. So you've either made a mistake when typing in the numbers here, or you've missed out required information from the question you're tackling.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    The information contained in the original question was incomplete if you wanted to compile a cash flow statement

    Sorry for the wrong numbers
    here is the right variant:
    balance sheet 2010/2009

    cash 30,000/35,000
    accounts receivable (net) 55,000/45,000
    inventory 65,000/45,000
    prepaid expenses 15,000/25,000
    equipment 90,000/75,000
    accumulated depreciation (18,000)/(8,000)
    Land 70,000/40,000
    total 307,000/257,000

    Accounts payable 65,000/52,000
    accrued expenses 15,000/18,000
    notes payable - bank 0/23,000
    bonds payable 30,000/0
    common stock 189,000/159,000
    retained earnings 8,000/5,000
    total 307,000/257,000

    additional information:

    1)Land was acquired for $30,000 in exchange for common stock, par $30,000, during the year
    2)All equipment purchased was for cash.
    3)Equipment costing $13,000 was sold for $3,000; book value of the equipment was $6,000.
    4)Cash dividends of $9,000 were declared and paid during the year.

    my first cash flow statement was:

    Operating
    Increase in receivables (10 000)
    Increase in inventory (20 000)
    Increase account payables 13 000
    Decrease in accrued expenses (3 000)
    Decrease in prepaid expenses 10 000
    (10 000)
    Investing:
    Purchase of Equipment (28 000)
    (28 000)
    Financing:
    Notes payable (23 000)
    Bonds payable 30 000
    Dividends (9 000)
    (2 000)
    Total: (40 000)
    Adjustments
    Depreciation (17 000)
    So I should add "Proceeds of sale of equipment", right?
  • Jan 18, 2013, 05:51 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jack17012 View Post
    Adjustments
    Depreciation (17 000)
    So I should add "Proceeds of sale of equipment", right?

    Yes that is a factor but to balance you need to reconcile with the movement of cash at bank

    The real question is what game have you been playing?

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