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  • Mar 15, 2007, 09:49 AM
    CHRISTUCKER1
    Abandonment of 4 year old
    I have a 4 yr. old son and his bio-father is on child support but he has not paid it in 10 months and he has not seen our son in 10 months is there anything that I can do to force him to give up is rights? I do not care about the child support I just want him to give up his rights. He knows where we live and he knows the numbers where he can reach us. Is there any law that well take his rights away?
  • Mar 15, 2007, 09:52 AM
    whiteladybug2002
    If the bio father does not pay child support or communicate with the child for one year and you have someone to adopt the child, then he can lose his rights! Talk to a lawyer. I have gone through it with mine and the bio dad lost this rights, no problems!
  • Mar 15, 2007, 10:00 AM
    tishee_76
    Hi whiteladybug
    Your fitting in just nicely.. Hee Hee

    A question though:
    Do you need to have someone to adopt the child?
    Can say, a single parent have a court order put in place in a similar situation?
  • Mar 15, 2007, 10:06 AM
    whiteladybug2002
    You will probably have to have someone to adopt the child, because the court will not bastardize (I think that is how you spell it) a child. In other words, the child will have to have a father on the birth cert.

    If you don't have someone to adopt, then you should file for sole custody. That way he has no say so of the child, but he is still responsible for child support.
  • Mar 15, 2007, 10:21 AM
    tishee_76
    Mmm..
    I was asking because my friend was in a similar situation to christucker1 and she did apply for sole custody after two years of nothing from the father and when he received the paper work to notify what she intended to do, well, it irrupted a previous silent volcano and now she and her lawyer looking for loop holes.. and also wishing she never touched a ticking bomb..
  • Mar 15, 2007, 12:26 PM
    whiteladybug2002
    Some men want to keep rights to their children just for their own pride and your friend seems to have a man like that preventing her from getting sole custody.

    I wish your friend the best of luck with her case!
  • Mar 15, 2007, 12:57 PM
    tishee_76
    Cheers.. and best of luck to you too christucker1..
  • Mar 16, 2007, 10:59 AM
    heavenzdevil17
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CHRISTUCKER1
    I have a 4 yr. old son and his bio-father is on child support but he has not paid it in 10 mos and he has not seen our son in 10 mos is there anything that I can do to force him to give up is rights? I do not care about the child support I just want him to give up his rights. He knows where we live and he knows the numbers where he can reach us. Is there any law that well take his rights away?

    Does he just have to not pay child support, or both? Mine only see's him about twice, maybe three times a year, and he has free reign to see him whenever he wants...
  • Mar 18, 2007, 02:03 AM
    Moostepher
    Man - you all a bunch of man haters - what if this guy does turn over a new leaf and decides to pay the CS arrears - will you allow him to see his kid? Don't listen to nonattorney's about legal advise - I am a family law attorney and people come in all the time telling me one thing or another about how their friend said this or did that or something or another happened to them in such and such circumstance.

    You need to talk to a lawyer. More importantly, you need to think about your own perspective on the dad and try not to poison your young one's mind, because the reality is that the majority of these dead beats do come around and the child really does benefit, provided you didn't poison their mind.


    Peace out.
  • Mar 18, 2007, 03:28 AM
    AKaeTrue
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Moostepher
    man - ya all a bunch of man haters - what if this guy does turn over a new leaf and decides to pay the CS arrears - will you allow him to see his kid? don't listen to nonattorney's about legal advise - I am a family law attorney and people come in all the time telling me one thing or another about how their friend said this or did that or something or another happened to them in such and such circumstance.

    you need to talk to a lawyer. More importantly, you need to think about your own perspective on the dad and try not to poison your young one's mind, because the reality is that the majority of these dead beats do come around and the child really does benefit, provided you didn't poison their mind.


    peace out.

    This is true, sometimes they do come around, and sometimes they don't...

    My father came around... when I was 23 years old and no longer needed him for anything... How convenient for him...

    The emotional stress and financial strain that dead beat dads put their child's mother through is shameful.

    If they don't accept the responsibility from the beginning and step up to the plate and contribute; women feel like, what gives the men the right to decide on their own time when a good time to start contributing is??

    I can see where these women are coming from...

    They are not men haters... They just simply hate what the dead beat men are doing to them and their children... (mainly the children)

    No woman who is doing everything on her own is going to want a man that contributes ZERO to have any parental rights for HER child...
  • Mar 18, 2007, 01:30 PM
    Moostepher
    Who can really defend a dead beat PARENT? It is not a man problem. Admittedly, there is a larger problem w/ men, but, I see plenty of women who are dead beats and I have seen more than my share of men (not even the bio father in many cases - just responsible, loving and nurturing men) who stepped up to the plate when the mother was on the road to ruining their own lives and take their kids w/ them.

    So, I ask, why is the tenor of the issue (in here that is) directed at men - perhaps it is misdirected anger, if that is it, then I guess you can forgive the struggling woman, but, if it is a truly gender based anger - then that is despicable. Unfortunately, I tend to find that true man haters are more likely to be educated, wealthy and part of the "professional" class (for want of a better term) like a law school professor who want to shove there ing political agenda, or OB/GYNs, because they "believe" in women's health (aren't most men - that is, all non dead beats - pro-women - they help provide for their wives and daughters)

    PS - if the father is still alive and hasn't had his parental rights taken away (never mind the constitutional hurdles that are placed in the way of the state to prevent this) it is NEVER totally a Woman's child - it is always BOTH of theirs.
  • Mar 18, 2007, 02:21 PM
    whiteladybug2002
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by whiteladybug2002
    Some men want to keep rights to their children just for their own pride and your friend seems to have a man like that preventing her from getting sole custody.

    I wish your friend the best of luck with her case!


    I didn't say that women can't do things to hurt the men! Both sexes have immature individuals that are selfish and want to use their children to some sort of their advantage to hurt some one else! But in this perticular case, HELLO, we are talking about a man, aren't we?!

    Men and women walk away from their children every single day, expecting the other parent or someone else to pick up the slack. Then they walk around bragging at every opportunity they get to tell someone, "That is my kid, isn't he or she great!" Not because of you, the absent parent, who sits back and reaps the benefits of how "good" the child turns out. The absent parent may have rights that they never care to exercise until they may lose them, but what good are rights if you are not there? What gives someone the right to be called "Mom" or "Dad," if the person saying it doesn't really know who you are or where you have been? It becomes a word without a meaning and a name without a face.

    Everyone wants to point the finger and criticize the parent that is trying to provide for their child, instead of helping them out. Everyone TENDS to, not always, side with the absent parent, the one that hasn't been around for months or paid child support, agreeing with them on how horrible the REAL parent is. Agreeing that they have it sooo rough and life is unfair.

    Yes; there are parents that keep the parent from being involved and it is UNFAIR! I wish it wasn't this way and I wish there was some sort of "test" to tell who REALLY wants to be a PARENT or who just wants the name, so it would be easier for the court. But there isn't. Therefore, the children suffer and we sit on our tales arquing about who is right and who is wrong on here. IT IS UNFAIR, but not to the parents, good or bad, but to the children caught between.

    Instead of gossiping about the single parent across the street or down the road about how bad or unfit of a parent they are, why not call them up and say, "IS THERE ANYTHING I CAN DO TO HELP YOU & YOUR KIDS?" Mentor a child. You don't have to be "Mom" or "Dad" to mean something to a child that is caught between!

    I also want to add that my dad got custody of me when I was 1 yr old and my mom moved away. My Dad left me at his parents house, so my Grandparents raised me and I think God everyday that he blessed me with them. I didn't know who my mom was until I was 9 yrs old, because she didn't come around. My Dad was never there even though he lived 5 miles from me. I am now 28 yrs old and I have truly tried to build a relationship with my parents, but all attempts are unsuccessful. They are NOT my parents, my Grandparents are, but I respect them the same for giving me life.
  • Mar 18, 2007, 02:54 PM
    whiteladybug2002
    My parents also refused to give up rights, so my Grandparents didn't adopt me, but I still wish they would have.
  • Mar 18, 2007, 06:09 PM
    tishee_76
    My grounds for commenting in this post was for the concern of my goddaughter, who is (like many other children) firmly stuck in the middle of a no-win battle..
    The little girl actually ask her mother if she could see her dad after he has shown no interest for 2 and a half years.. The mother has been relentlessly trying to set up access with the father with ignorance being her answer.. She did receive one letter back where he stated " I will get access rights when I so wish and not before, You will never see a penny from me and dont use MY childs so called wishes to guilt me into your games! "

    This was all that was written and she was a little fearful of her child being taken away from her through the courts by way of legal loop holes..
    She was merely trying to clear up CUSTODY issues, which as the responsible carer I believe she has every right to protect her child's well being..

    She has never been malicious in her quests and I was merely asking in case of other options being available..

    Thank you whiteladybug for answering the questions asked..
    No thanks to family law attorney ?? For providing an un-informed opinion that provided no answers or help..

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